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  • Posted By: Spacer @ 07/11/2008 10:18:33 PM

    The Publicons keep saying how Barack Obama knew the Rev. Wright for 20 years. But McCain has been good friends with "Foreclosure Phil" for 25 years, and Wright didn't engineer the loop hole that permitted the Enron scandal or sponsor the legislation that enabled the subprime mortgage debacle. That was Dr. Phil who did all that. And he'll do it some more as McCain's treasury secretary, which is what the punditocracy tells us Dr. Phil will be if McCain is president.

  • Posted By: ReCon USMC @ 07/11/2008 8:12:18 PM

    Time magazine is nothing more than the Far Left AGENDA LEAD NY Times . That is why they both have dropped
    50 % in
    the last 9 years and are both no longer respected Inst.
    Howard Fineman is total copy of far Leftist Chris M. on Hard Ball in Print and a FAR LEFT LIBEARL
    TALKING HEAD ON TV AS WELL .
    What Phil Graham said was honest and right .All liberals and the Media are Cry Babies and that is why their
    Talk Radio
    failled Nationally many times as is CNN , MSNBC AND CSNBC , Mag's and News Papers like the Wash.Post !
    America is First ...... it takes all of Europe to MATCH OUR ECONOMY .
    POLISH OUR COUNTRY BUT WE DON'T NEED TO (CHANGE ) IT TO SOCIALISM AND A WELFARE HIGH TAXED NATION LIKE OBOMA PURPOSES !

  • Posted By: jordanadah @ 07/11/2008 7:32:04 PM

    What, you can't spell barack? How ignorant of you.

  • Posted By: poet1951 @ 07/11/2008 11:28:27 AM

    What was so stupid about the whiner remark?? Americans are whiners. The average American has no idea of the freedoms they enjoy, nor who paid the price to give it to them...I agree with Phil Graham. I have been in foreign countries and we are so far ahead in personal freedoms. A few years ago I vacationed in Bali. The corruption level is so high. A policeman earned at that time 200 Rupia. The Rupia was and still is around 10,000 to one American dollar. The policeman received 200 Rupia and a sack of Rice...the streets, majority, were dirt...the paved roads were in poor repair...the houses, mostly are rural communities...not the most sanitary of conditions...I've been in Denmark, France, Germany, Austria, where to pass a border requires papers, and you must have papers on you at all times...Hong Kong and Brisbane Australia...though all "civilized" nations, none compare with the United States...still we whine and complain. People have been paying alot more for oil than we have for a long, long time...yet Americans still drive their big cars, SUV gas guzzlers...and make no attempt to reduce their use, or improve their public transportation...I drive a car that gets 40mpg...and drive at 60mph on the average when I travel...I turn off my lights and air when I leave the house in the morning...I try to conserve what I can...still don't recycle as I should, but hey, we all have our faults...but what I don't do is whine about how bad we have it, because I know we have it better than any other country in the world....I have always had a job, sometimes two or three...to support my family...while the other guy is complaining about not having a job, I'm working...I went from 125,000 a year, to nothing almost overnight...I found a $7.00 an hour job, got a part time job, and kept going until I found better...I haven't reached the 125,000 a year again, yet...but the great thing about this country is you just have to work for it...

    • Posted By: j.n @ 07/11/2008 6:41:32 PM

      Wow,I am happy to know that it is all in my mind,I realy thought that my Harley Davidson stock had fallen from $76 to $33 dollars,thank you Gram.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/11/2008 12:21:22 PM

      This is not about any other country. It is about the standards of OUR AMERICAN LIFE, what we are used to having and what we expect.

      • Posted By: j.n @ 07/11/2008 6:23:49 PM

        sjpersonal: thank you ,hope they can come back to the USA.

      • Posted By: cutechick01 @ 07/11/2008 12:31:14 PM

        Oh I get it "what we're used to having and what we expect" - so we're not whiners? We're 'Entitled'! Perfect. Great. Yippee. (insert sarcasm anywhere you like). I agree with Gramm, by and far, we're whiners. And on Mondays, myself included.

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/11/2008 1:24:50 PM

      Exactly! Posters here seem to think Americans deserve more than other humans, for some reason. Even now, where we think it's bad, it's still better than 80% of the world's population. There are humans that can't even afford a friggin' sack of rice, much less a roomy house in the suburbs, gigantic SUVs, and yearly vacations. I realize that there are people out there that must choose between gas and food, but I hardly think it's as drastic or far-reached as people have been talking about. I can afford to put gas in my small car, even at $4, and I am thankful for that. However, I still choose to carpool with 3 other people. I chose to work to put myself through college to get a good job. Heck, I even work part time on the weekends! Life is about choices. Yes, the economy is in a downturn, but things aren't always up. You have to plan for rainy days...whatever happened to SAVINGS? An MSN Financial article says that less than 20% of American adults have $500 or more in savings...BEFORE the economy went down the tubes. Get a second job, live more frugally, car pool, go to discount stores--take charge of your life and stop looking for someone to blame!

  • Posted By: Steve T @ 07/11/2008 2:30:23 PM

    aeroplane: What are you, a rich guy's kid? Or just one lucky SOB? Average Americans' fortunes in this nation have for far too long now been too much determined by dumb luck, or the manipulations and caprices of those at the top of the system. An example? Airline pilots; thirty years ago all the smartest and best-qualified aviators went to Pan Am, TWA, United or Delta. All of them boasted solid econimics, good pay, and a great retirement plan. Southwest was last choice.
    How those situations reversed! No one could have predicted the complete demise of some or the reductions in pay and retirement at the others. The employees of the failures made the very best decisions they could at the time. Now, at retirement age, they're scrambling - not becaue of "bad decisions," but just bad luck! Just because you've been lucky with your "decisions," you pass this judgment on others! It's such a common Republican refrain.

    • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 07/11/2008 3:18:46 PM

      Why is it you believe Aeroplane is either a rich guys kid or lucky? Can it possibly be he EARNED his money! The reason the DNC led congress has single digit approval is it runs these shadowy discrimination campaigns against ACHIEVERS!
      The DNC runs other discriminatin campaigns ,too, in their position of AMERICANS SUCK FIRST and you swallowed it!
      The DNC insists that Americans fortunes and future be a Government Programs Offers.They need whinners and compainers to justify their schemes! And if they can't get what they want they do nothing! The single digit approval was earned by the DNC because of this!
      Can you trust Liberals to honestly oppose discrimination against minorities (ethnic/gender) when they intentionaly WAGE dicrimination campaigns against Achievers, Christians, Gun Owners, Law Enforcement Memebers and Military Experts?
      What do you feel about these other targets of the DNC, too? are they all rich guys kid's? SOBs?
      The DNC has ran hate/ distrust campaigns against so many Americans now it spans the MAJORITY! And the people who make this country work! That's DNC judgement in packaging!
      The DNC can't step off any of them because discrimination campaigns and lies are like riding a tiger! you can go a long way but if you step off, you get eaten!

      • Posted By: greengal-08 @ 07/11/2008 6:36:59 PM

        Such a typical 'superior', judgemental, arrogarnt attitude! What have you 'achieved' ? And of course, 'our did it al by yourself'! Apparently, you did the impossible, you picked your parents well!

  • Posted By: Reefsaver @ 07/11/2008 11:33:02 AM

    This article hits the nail on the head. McCain's own campaign is killing him. His staffers, his advisors, so many of them are so NOT like McCain. McCain is so much better than Obama, but can he beat both his own staff and the Democratic candidate?

    • Posted By: j.n @ 07/11/2008 6:15:40 PM

      McCain's campaign is not killing him ,the canadite is killing the campaign,change the canadite the problem will be solved.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/11/2008 12:19:48 PM

      Reefsaver: Do you have two tag names?? If so why? I ask this because someone named ecoscience below posted the exact same comment. I mean exactly the same punctuation etc????????????????

      Posted By: ecoscience @ 07/11/2008 11:31:29 AM
      Comment: This article hits the nail on the head. McCain's own campaign is killing him. His staffers, his advisors, so many of them are so NOT like McCain. McCain is so much better than Obama, but can he beat both his own staff and the Democratic candidate?

  • Posted By: abadreview @ 07/11/2008 11:39:02 AM

    pqowie12345---

    i'm surprised you can even figure out how to turn your computer on. You ignorant piece of the past. The only reason people like you refer to Obama as "elite", is because you can't read. It's not his fault you didn't pay attention in school. Bigots like you will be wiped out soon, so keep running your mouth off, it makes it easier to identify you.

    • Posted By: pqowie12345 @ 07/11/2008 12:18:19 PM

      Oh no, I???ve been threatened on the internet. I'm shaking in my jack boots. Of course the first thing you do is play the race card. Second your call for genocide is rather coincidental since that???s what obama???s buddy and pal Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. They guy he would talk to when we won???t talk to general petraeus

      • Posted By: j.n @ 07/11/2008 6:12:05 PM

        How many countries have Iran attacted,how many have Iran occupied,how many countries do Iran have troops in,how many civilian populations have Iran dropped nukes on,zilch,zero,can you say the same for Israel and the US?.Go pqowie12345 you are smart.

  • Posted By: ploughman @ 07/11/2008 6:11:22 PM

    If Republicans are going to try the tar-by-association bit on Obama, Gramm's a good one to point out in response. His brand of conservatism basically pretends you can have an economy without a government and it's the sum of all individual contributions. Yet without government-funded investments like the Interstates, Internet and other physical and social infrastructure, our economy never would have been able to grow to anywhere near where it is today. Gramm just doesn't "get" the idea of creating a whole that's much greater than the sum of the parts, which is what government at its best (and only government) can do.

    Gramm also can come across as callous and mean-spirited; even C. Montgomery Burns did a better job with the facade! Much better to have people like him openly expressing views, though, than the much more common scenario of hiding them or eternally searching for the higher moral alternative explanation for actions rooted in greed.

  • Posted By: Ezana @ 07/11/2008 5:29:09 PM

    If one of Obama's surrogates had made this statement you'd be hearing about this not just on the news networks but locally and on the front page of every paper in the country. It doesn't get any worse (or elite) than this. The fact that anyone is giving Gramm's explanation any credence is ridiculous. The fact that nobody acknowledges that this guy is McCain's #1 guy on the economy is insane! This should be killing McCain! I don't get why this isn't.

    • Posted By: greengal-08 @ 07/11/2008 6:07:57 PM

      The media is totally 'imbedded' wih McCain. They 'yuk it up' with him on his campaign plane, his 'Straight-talk Express' bus and join him on gambling junkets to play craps, so why should they compromise their good times by pressing him or challenging him on ANY question or issue. On top of that they work for the corporate interests that stand to gain the most if he were to be elected!

  • Posted By: greengal-08 @ 07/11/2008 6:01:24 PM

    The most interesting thing was McCain's response, 'Gramm doesn't speak for me, I speak for me.' Even though McCain has expressed similar views many times. So only McCain speaks for McCain even though Gramm is his economic advisor, but everyone speaks for Obama as in Wesley Clark's comments?

  • Posted By: greengal-08 @ 07/11/2008 5:59:43 PM

    The most interesting thing was McCain's response, 'Gramm doesn't speak for me, I speak for me.' Even though McCain has expressed similar views many times. So only McCain speaks for McCain even though Gramm is his economic advisor, but everyone speaks for Obama as in Wesley Clark's comments?

  • Posted By: a0268 @ 07/11/2008 5:59:05 PM

    WHAA, WHAA, WHAA, WHAA< WHAA.

  • Posted By: whitley10128 @ 07/11/2008 5:57:06 PM

    Small point: Gramm ran for president in 1996, not 1988.

  • Posted By: rwacziarg @ 07/11/2008 5:39:02 PM

    Nothing proves the stupidity of journalists more than this column.
    Yours,
    An Economist

  • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/11/2008 4:34:39 PM

    Ohh cry me a river. Everytime someone other then Obama makes a statement (truthful I might add) all of you bleeding heart liberals cry like little bytches. Why are you the joke of America? Because if it were Obama who said this you would all be making excuses for him as we speak. Correction. Newsweak would be making excuses for him, then after being told what to think, then all of you bleeding heart hypocrites would be making excuses for him. Cry me a river lil babies, cry me a river.

    • Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 07/11/2008 5:34:33 PM

      Sport, you are indeed an ignorant and immature being. Your posting sounds like a 10 year old calling us crybabies. and then calling us bytches, guess you graduated to 13 years of age. Sounds that in addition to being an ignorant and immature being, you are also resentful and mean-spirited. Go dump your crapola down the the toilet, it does not belong here.

    • Posted By: kle5507 @ 07/11/2008 4:54:18 PM

      Hey Sport,

      How much are you paying for a tank of gas? You know how much a gallon of Milk cost? Used to be for $1.00, you get 12 corn at the local SafeWay Pre-Bush Jr.. Now it's $1 for 2 corn. Isn't that called inflation? But I'm sorry, i'm whining again. don't mind me, just get back to watching T-ball champion on ESPN 3. For the rest of us, we got to get back to work. Nice writing to ya sportie.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 07/10/2008 7:42:10 PM

    The whine that Gramm heard was that high pitched sound of his party crashing to the earth. Folks finally caught on. At least Mc Cain had an ejection seat when his plane was crashing in Viet Nam, so that he could get out of the plane and parachute safely to earth. But it looks like he will have to go down to earth with his party this November.
    Jesse Jackson used to be called The Reverend Jesse Jackson. I think that after the surgery that he has recommended on candidate Obama we should call him Doctor Jesse Jackson, DVM, as in veterinarian. Not cool, Jesse, not cool. Obama intends to represent everybody in the nation equally, not just your favorites.

    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 07/10/2008 10:15:03 PM

      Gramm may not have said it real well, but he is basically correct. We haven't even had two quarters of negative GDP growth (the technical definition of a recession), and the press is having the vapors. What nonsense. If this was a Democratic administration, the reporting would be entirely different. In that event, the MSM would be attempting to blame the downturn on Ronald Reagan, or some such nonsense.

      • Posted By: j.n @ 07/11/2008 5:17:06 PM

        what determines whether we are in a recession or not depends whether you have lost your job or your neighbor has lost his job,if your neighbor has lost his ,no recession,if you have lost yours that is a recession,all in the mind uh.

      • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/10/2008 11:38:26 PM

        The economy as a whole isn't in negative growth, but the majority of Americans have been treading water or worse for longer than two quarters. Middle-class *adjusted* income, adjusted for inflation and purchasing power, has actually decreased since 2000. There's been an incredible transfer of wealth from the middle class to the upper classes for some time now, and most Americans are hurting regardless of what the total GDP is doing at present.

        Take a look at housing - The majority of the housing market is pulling a Hindenburg, but the most expensive properties are skyrocketing in price. That happens when a small number of people are absurdly rich and most people are struggling, which is also why we've got horrible stagflation right now.

        I do think Americans tend to whine a bit in contrast to where we've been historically - i.e., 1943, and preparing to meet a German panzer advance instead of grumbling about high gas prices - but the economic pain is real for everyone except the upper class right now, because the increased prices are in fuel and necessities. It's only the upper classes to whom those prices don't matter, and that's gone with the general trend for some time whereby those in power are increasingly sheltered and unable to relate to the struggles of the working and middle class.

        • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/11/2008 9:13:17 AM

          I agree with you, but I also pause to think about what we are comparing today's economy to. Sure, everyone can agree that the economy is in a downturn, if not recession. But in 2000 we were coming off the tail end of a huge economic and technological boom...of course things are going to be down from that. We definitely need to make several changes to keep our country on the right track, though, and must choose our next leader carefully. It's disheartening that many people can't see past their party allegiance to have open, intelligent conversation about who the best person is for the job. Instead they fling "insults" like Liberal and Leftist...

  • Posted By: Staggslaw @ 07/11/2008 1:50:43 PM

    I can't believe a poster asked "what does this goit [sic] to do with McCain?" Not only are they very long time political allies, and Gramm has been mentioned as a possible (formerly probable?) Treasury secretary under McCain, but it highlights the fact a McCain administration would draw on the same old tired failed Republicans, a la Bush-Cheney. Four more years! Four more years! That's what it has to do with McCain.

    • Posted By: ara9557 @ 07/11/2008 5:13:35 PM

      And what does Obama bring to the table? The guy is all over the place and I don't really know where he stands on anything? Is this pandering to get votes? Maybe so. What I do get is that his energy plan is pie in the sky. If we are in an energy crisis, would it make sense to look at all alternatives? What is Obama's plan? Let's use alternatives, except domestic oil, nuclear, and coal based. I am not sure how long his plan will take, but we are going to be hurting until then. The $5,000 credit is joke. I would have more respect for Mr. Obama if he would said, we are looking at all alternatives to solve this so called crisis. But what did Mr. Obama do? He took the party line. I am different type of politician he says... Yea, right! We can't have 4 more years of a Democratic congress and have Dem to boot in the Whitehouse.

  • Posted By: mhopgood123 @ 07/11/2008 5:04:21 PM

    New poll shows Obama up by three points in McCain's home state.

    Phoenix - In a sign of continued weakness in his home state, an online poll shows Sen. John McCain trailing Sen. Barack Obama by 3-percentage points in Arizona. The poll also shows the candidacy of Liberterian Bob Barr is having a significant impact on McCain's campaign by siphoning off conservative voters nationwide.

  • Posted By: devnulzzz @ 07/11/2008 9:10:32 AM

    Obama's promise to apply the same exact failed policies of Jimmy Carter GUARANTEES the economy will fail. I tend to agree with the "Gaffe", had you paid any attention or been around during the Carter administration, you would see that by comparison, todays economy is a walk in the park. If Obama is elected and allowed to re-apply the same ridiculous failed policies, we all indeed, will have MUCH MUCH more to complain about. Liberally biased hacks and propagandists such as exists in most of our "mainstream" media does all they can to hide these facts and prop up Obama, but thinking people do know better.

    • Posted By: j.n @ 07/11/2008 5:01:45 PM

      The last year that Jimmy Carter was in office I made $80,000+,the second that Reagan was in I made about half of that,last year I made less than $60,000,I will take Carter over what we have had for the last seven and half years anytime.

  • Posted By: cuppa jo @ 07/11/2008 4:54:26 PM

    There is a "flap" everday, who cares?

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