I'm not sure where the dems are going with all this. The Obama campaign took extensive and painstaking measures to make certain Hillary Clinton (who won 49.99999% of the vote) does not get the job, but let's see ... no one else wants it ..... our party is utterly ridiculous.
A Man With a Plan
Why Webb would rather stay in the Senate than be Obama's veep.
Jul 11, 2008 | Updated: 1:43 p.m. ET Jul 11, 2008
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Posted By: vakosh @ 07/15/2008 10:17:18 PM
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Posted By: whyi56 @ 07/15/2008 2:26:28 PM
Senator Webb is the only one who knows what is best for him. Even though I believe he would be a great Vice President, perhaps his work in the Senate is what America needs. More Senator Webbs' who fight for policies that really matters to Americans, especially our veterans and their families is what we need. Thank you Senator Webb for your meaningful successful fight you have accomplish. I pray there will be many more success. You are a rare one.
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Posted By: LuLuBelle @ 07/14/2008 10:32:14 PM
Nobody wants to play with Obama! That is too funny!
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/15/2008 7:10:14 PM
Who plays with you LuLuBelle? Didn't know bigots had anyone that would want to play with them.
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Posted By: Nins @ 07/13/2008 12:57:46 AM
Know why McCain wants to distance himself from former Senator Phil Gramm? It's not because of Gramm's obnoxious remarks calling Americans "a nation of whiners" who are in "a mental recession." Those remarks were so ascerbic that they may've been made just to give McCain an excuse to distance himself from Gramm. This issue is a lot deeper than it looks on the surface.
When Gramm was a Senator he was Chairman of the Banking Committee. He pushed through the legislation known as the "Enron Loophole." This loophole allowed US investment banks to bypass Federal regulations governing futures trading, and is the reason why investment banks were able to falsely inflate the prices of oil, wheat, corn and other commodities through massive futures trading, causing your costs of gas, heating oil and food to go through the roof.
Gramm also created the Gramm-Leach-Biley Act, which got rid of the laws that seperate banking, insurance and brokerage activities in America. The Gramm Act was touted as a new way to protect consumer privacy, but the real meat on the Act's bones was banking deregulation. Essentially, this Act did away with laws written after the Great Depression to protect us from another Wall Street/Banking Industry collapse. That's right, Gramm stripped the system of it's safe guards nine years ago, and guess what? The value of the dollar has nose-dived, four major economic institutions have failed, Wall Street is unstable, and we are in a worsening recession.
Notably, the US investment banks that gained the most from the Enron Loophole and from the Gramm Act contributed more than a million dollars to Gramm's campaign.
Currently Gramm is Vice Chairman of UBS, the Swiss Bank that came up with the idea of "death bonds." Worse, though, UBS is involved in a scam where they sold auction rate securities to American customers. Auction rate securities are supposed to be as safe as cash, but the way UBS did it, the fees garnished by their in-house investment bankers were intentionally higher than the return on the securities, ripping off their American customers. The Massachusetts Attorney General has already filed charges against UBS, and private brokers world-wide have dropped UBS stock. UBS is forecasted to lose 82.91% of it's value in 2008. We are talking about the corporate bank where Gramm is Vice Chairman. Looking at his track record there and at the havoc he has wrought on the US economy through the Senate Banking Committee, it's clear that Gramm is a either criminal or grossly incompetent.
Now McCain wants nothing to do with Gramm, wants us to forget Gramm has been a key player on McCain's team. Gramm was McCain's campaign CO-CHAIR and LEADING ECONOMIC ADVISOR. Previously, McCain had said that he planned to appoint Gramm as SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY.
With Gramm as McCain's leading economic advisor, now you know why economists and analysts say that McCain's economic policy plans are untenable. -
Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/12/2008 9:44:04 PM
Brand new website............. http://formerobamasupporters.com .........................................
Very first video, is Hussein advocating sex ed, FOR KINDERGARTEN. The fool is a, uh, well ....FOOL.
NOBAMA!!!-
Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/12/2008 10:43:39 PM
sinclairs loverboy says what...
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Posted By: Nins @ 07/12/2008 6:34:14 PM
Know why McCain wants to distance himself from former Senator Phil Gramm? It's not because of Gramm's obnoxious remarks calling Americans "a nation of whiners" who are in "a mental recession." Those remarks were so ascerbic that they may've been made just to give McCain an excuse to distance himself from Gramm. This issue is a lot deeper than it looks on the surface.
When Gramm was a Senator he was Chairman of the Banking Committee. He pushed through the legislation known as the "Enron Loophole." This loophole allowed US investment banks to bypass Federal regulations governing futures trading, and is the reason why investment banks were able to falsely inflate the prices of oil, wheat, corn and other commodities through massive futures trading, causing your costs of gas, heating oil and food to go through the roof.
Gramm also created the Gramm-Leach-Biley Act, which got rid of the laws that seperate banking, insurance and brokerage activities in America. The Gramm Act was touted as a new way to protect consumer privacy, but the real meat on the Act's bones was banking deregulation. Essentially, this Act did away with laws written after the Great Depression to protect us from another Wall Street/Banking Industry collapse. That's right, Gramm stripped the system of it's safe guards nine years ago, and guess what? The value of the dollar has nose-dived, four major economic institutions have failed, Wall Street is unstable, and we are in a worsening recession.
Notably, the US investment banks that gained the most from the Enron Loophole and from the Gramm Act contributed more than a million dollars to Gramm's campaign.
Currently Gramm is Vice Chairman of UBS, the Swiss Bank that came up with the idea of "death bonds." Worse, though, UBS is involved in a scam where they sold auction rate securities to American customers. Auction rate securities are supposed to be as safe as cash, but the way UBS did it, the fees garnished by their in-house investment bankers were intentionally higher than the return on the securities, ripping off their American customers. The Massachusetts Attorney General has already filed charges against UBS, and private brokers world-wide have dropped UBS stock. UBS is forecasted to lose 82.91% of it's value in 2008. We are talking about the corporate bank where Gramm is Vice Chairman. Looking at his track record there and at the havoc he has wrought on the US economy through the Senate Banking Committee, it's clear that either Gramm is a criminal or grossly incompetent.
Now McCain wants nothing to do with Gramm, wants us to forget Gramm has been a key player on McCain's team. Gramm was McCain's campaign CO-CHAIR and LEADING ECONOMIC ADVISOR. Previously, McCain had said that he planned to appoint Gramm as SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY.
With Gramm as McCain's leading economic advisor, now you know why economists and analysts say that McCain's economic policy plans are untenable. -
Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/12/2008 4:03:42 PM
Hey Sharenews if you're "undesided" you are definetly NOT alone watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c&feature=related-
Posted By: sharenews @ 07/12/2008 5:16:35 PM
Yes, both Obama and McCcain have their share of confusing, flip flopping moments. But when that is all said and done, depending upon which candidate one is supporting it what make a heck of a difference most likely. But these videos are funny to watch:
Uh, I mean breath-alizer- I mean inhaler, I havent had much sleep lately (yeah, that is it, LOL) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbpWonUzlrc&feature=related
Obama sees dead people, LOL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7ds-s0-IEY
Been in every corner of the US. LOL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrsBKGpwi58
Barack Obama says John McCain would be a "Better" President (than Bush). LOL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvIsnSwxDDU&feature=related-
Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/12/2008 7:08:02 PM
Yeeeeeaaaahhhh, not quite the same now is it? a gaffe, is a little different tan a complete contradiction with ones self.
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Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/12/2008 4:03:06 PM
Have a look at this, I love it it's very clear why this is my choice for President...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c&feature=related
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Posted By: befair @ 07/12/2008 2:38:52 PM
Sad to hear that Webb is out of the running, but he is right. We need strong minds like his anywhere we can get them and Sen. Obama still has some great choices available to him. I hope it isn't Sen. Clinton though. She would want to take credit for everything he did as President, and I the way she has behaved in this campaign has hurt our party and her supporters. She had a responibility to help them come to terms with the fact that she lost the nomination and she failed miserably at that. I think she has enjoyed garnering sympathy and that is poor leadership any way you slice it.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/12/2008 4:00:10 PM
Hillary failed miserably? Did you follow the same primaries as I did? You must have taken a big swig of that Kool-Aide Obama freely gives out to his supporters. Hillary made a historical run for presidency that Obama squeeked in to win with the DNC and company and the mainstreamedia on his side as well. It is not nice to rile a Hillary supporter for obvious reasons.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 7:50:29 PM
Hillary did not fail miserably. She put up a good fight and that was admirable, but considering that she was supposed to be the favorite, the inevitable candidate, the shoe-in so to speak, she lost 11 states in a row. Out of 50 states, Obama won 35, most def. not a squeaker. He beat Hillary by 160 delegates which by rules elects the nominee. O also won the popular vote which by the same rules Harold Ickes and the DNC put in place, does not elect the nominee..
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Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/12/2008 2:03:52 PM
"HILLARY - we need familiarity, strength, and HER."....I love how he sets her apart from the things we need...there's familiarity, there's strength, and then there is....Hillary?
As to teh Familiarity, what did you know about George Bush before he was running for pres? Bill Clinton? GB1?...Stop buying into the FOX diversion of "we don't know him", so what, I trust him more than any Clinton or Bush EVER and BY FAR more than any McBush.-
Posted By: sharenews @ 07/12/2008 4:03:08 PM
PRO-HILLARY website launched. Anyone who would like to sign the pledge (reiterated below and on the site), here is the link to the site: http://www.together4us.com/
THE PLEDGE OF TOGETHERNESS: SPREAD THE WORD!
We stand together with her 18 million voters in pursuit of all of the following:
Bring us together by honoring Hillary Clinton and her supporters at the Democratic National Convention in Denver by:
Placing her name into nomination (following traditional protocol)
Ensuring a roll-call vote
Inviting her to speak, during prime-time, on August 26th, the 88th anniversary of Women's Suffrage
Bring us together by adoption of policies on the Platform Committee that Hillary Clinton has championed.
Bring us together through reform of the primary and caucus system to reflect the basic principle of one person - one vote.
Bring us together through outspoken denunciation of all gender bias, racism and other forms of discrimination.
Bring us together by making a concerted effort to retire her campaign debt.
We are being asked to embrace Party Unity without the fair representation of Hillary Clinton and her 18 million voters. Party Unity requires bilateral action. We ask Barack Obama and the DNC to respond.-
Posted By: dking312 @ 07/13/2008 11:01:34 PM
Who does all of this help?? I love Hillary too, but I have a news flash...
THE PRIMARIES ARE OVER.
This country does not have time to waste on who name gets read where....
Hillary has better things to do. Or else she would have made her own comments on what she wants.
Can the lady lose in peace?
How about putting your eergy into helping some homeless vets, or some starving kids. I'll sign for that. But this you talking about is a waste of my time.
How much more speaking out on race and gender do you need? Do you just want the man to grow a *** so you all can be happy? DAMN!
I'm a woman, but these folks go tooooo far. They gonna
plan out the convention,
tell Barack what to say,
pick out Hillary's pantsuit,
say 18 million 18 million times to themselves.
DAMN!!!!
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Posted By: brian.reach @ 07/12/2008 11:49:47 AM
HILLARY - we need familiarity, strength, and HER.
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Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/12/2008 11:46:26 AM
Obama needs someone who will not overshadow him. Maybe Nins or Driver of Wagons would be willing to take the job.
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Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/14/2008 5:38:26 PM
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Posted By: Nins @ 07/13/2008 1:00:27 AM
Dear Jill, thanks for the "compliment" but I am not qualified to be Vice President. And Obama doesn't have to worry about being overshadowed. The dude is TALL.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 7:40:30 PM
No one can overshadow Obama.
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Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/12/2008 2:05:39 PM
There has not been anybody yet that has "overshadowed"him...lol Hill did in the very begining, and then she spoke...whoops (she's NO bill) and thenn unfortunately for her, Obama spoke, the rest as they say is History ;)
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/12/2008 4:04:30 PM
PRO-HILLARY website launched. Anyone who would like to sign the pledge (reiterated below and on the site), here is the link to the site: http://www.together4us.com/
THE PLEDGE OF TOGETHERNESS: SPREAD THE WORD!
We stand together with her 18 million voters in pursuit of all of the following:
Bring us together by honoring Hillary Clinton and her supporters at the Democratic National Convention in Denver by:
Placing her name into nomination (following traditional protocol)
Ensuring a roll-call vote
Inviting her to speak, during prime-time, on August 26th, the 88th anniversary of Women's Suffrage
Bring us together by adoption of policies on the Platform Committee that Hillary Clinton has championed.
Bring us together through reform of the primary and caucus system to reflect the basic principle of one person - one vote.
Bring us together through outspoken denunciation of all gender bias, racism and other forms of discrimination.
Bring us together by making a concerted effort to retire her campaign debt.
We are being asked to embrace Party Unity without the fair representation of Hillary Clinton and her 18 million voters. Party Unity requires bilateral action. We ask Barack Obama and the DNC to respond.-
Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 8:02:48 PM
Share, although I admire your loyalty and support for Hillary, if you care at all about the Democratic party, you will stop posting this. The race for the nominee is over. Obama is the presumptive nominee and this won't change at the conventions. I am sure that Hillary will be honored at the convention, so not to worry, she will get credit where credit is due. There was no gender bias nor racism used against her. Racism was used against Obama in the primaries, that much is clear. As for Hillary's camp debt, I understood that Obama will help pay it off. Has that plan changed?
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 8:06:37 PM
PS Sharenews- Reform of the primary and caucus system? Why, because Hillary lost? if she had won would you be asking for a reform of the primary and caucus system? Once again, if the DNC was not satisfied with the system, it would have been reformed years ago. Bill Clinton was satisfied with it when he ran and won the nomination.
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Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/12/2008 11:42:12 AM
Reason #1: Because Webb is NOT a neoliberal Democrat and disagrees with their agenda.
Reason #2: Because Webb is FOR AMERICA, not against it - see Reason #1.-
Posted By: neocon @ 07/15/2008 4:04:02 PM
Reason #3 Webb is just a plain nasty person.
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Posted By: tider @ 07/12/2008 3:48:30 AM
Excuses, excuses. No one wants to board a boat with a great big hole in it. I have a bigger chance of being the next president than Hussein Obama.
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Posted By: Nins @ 07/13/2008 1:03:20 AM
You mean that gaping hole in Iraq? That giant open hemorrhage of cash! Is McCain's boat sinking? Jump ship!!!!
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 8:39:03 AM
Dead wrong. Obama wins.
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Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/12/2008 2:06:27 PM
Hey look Pia, tider called him "Handsome" is'nt that sweet ;)
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 2:58:59 PM
Very sweet!
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Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 07/11/2008 11:59:42 PM
Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 07/11/2008 14:32:02
Comment: What's happening with those polls lately?? LOL!!
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National Polls: Obama 48%, McCain 40%. as of today.-
Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/12/2008 10:47:41 AM
SORRY PAL THEY ARE 43%-42%
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 8:38:38 AM
Thanks!
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Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/12/2008 2:08:55 PM
LOL, do me a favor, google "summer polls" for the last 30yrssee where the numbers were...silly people. Wait until Sept,Oct, When McCan't control his temper gets to face Obama one on one, McCain could not even handle a Veteran asking him questions, and that vet also had the facts, what will he do against Obama...I can't wait..this will be funny.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 11:06:14 PM
I'd love to see someone ask McCain how could he cheat on, leave, and then divorce, his disfigured crippled and helpless wife for a rich younger woman. Sang froid. That's how.
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Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 07/11/2008 11:29:13 PM
IF Senator Webb wants to be President, he would take the VP offer IF Senator Obama had asked him to be his running mate. Being VP would definitely give him the experience needed to be Pres. However, as we all know, EXPERIENCE DOESN'T GUARANTEE A GOOD PRESIDENT AND ADMINISTRATION, AS PROVEN BY GWB'S SELECTION OF CHENEY AS VP AND RUMSFELDT AS I forget! Both Cheney and Rumsfeldt had years of EXPERIENCE...look where that led!! So, in my book, experience really does not mean much. What matters to me is good character, leadership abilities and skills, wisdom, vision, the ability to surround yourself with the best people for his administration, the ability to think clearly and able to make the right decisions, and yes, the great oratory skills. Senator Obama possessess all of these hands down. He will be a great President! Senator McCain just doesn't cut it, he is out of touch with American citizens; he wants to drill for oil to affect us "psychologically". In other words, McCain wants to trick us into "believing" he is helping us NOW, eventhough we would not get a drop of oil for at least seven (7) years!! As McCain would say< "my friends", he is trying to brainwash you!! He is giving you FALSE HOPE! In the meantime, nothing changes to make things better, under his Presidency, we, and our country, will sprial further downward. McCain must think we are a nation of stupidity and I find that very offensive.
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Posted By: Nins @ 07/11/2008 10:45:38 PM
Know why McCain wants to distance himself from former Senator Phil Gramm? It is not just because of Gramm's recent obnoxious remarks calling Americans "a nation of whiners" and that unemployed Americans are in "a mental recession." In fact, those remarks were so obnoxious that I wonder if they were engineered just to provide McCain an excuse for publicly distancing himself from Gramm. This issue is a lot deeper than it looks on the surface.
When Gramm was a Senator he was chair of the Committee on Banking, and in that capacity he was able to push through the legislation now known as the "Enron Loophole." This loophole allowed US investment banks to bypass the Federal regulations governing futures trading, and is the reason why the investment banks were able to falsely inflate the prices of oil, wheat, corn and other commodities through massive futures trading, causing your costs of gas, heating oil and food to go through the roof.
Gramm was a member of McCain's campaign team, but now Gramms' name is turning to mud. In addition to the Enron loophole, Gramm pushed through the Gramm-Leach-Biley Act in 1999, which got rid of the laws that seperate banking, insurance and brokerage activities in America. Essentially, this Act did away with all of the good laws written after the Great Depression to protect us from another Wall Street/Banking Industry collapse. That's right, Gramm stripped the system of it's safe guards nine years ago, and guess what? The value of the dollar has nose-dived, three major economic institutions have failed, Wall Street is highly unstable, and we are in the midst of a worsening recession.
Now you could say that this is not Gramm's fault, that he didn't know what the outcome of his actions would be. However, it turns out that the same investment banks that benefited from the Enron loophole and from the Gramm Act gave more than a million dollars to Gramm's campaign. Uh oh. A Congressional hearing is going to be convened to investigate this. And McCain wants to have noting to do with Gramm, wants us to forget that Gramm has been a key player on McCain's campaign team. Gramm was McCain's campaign CO-CHAIR and LEADING ECONOMIC ADVISER. Previously, McCain had said that he planned to appoint Gramm as SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY. It looks like McCain is scratching that idea, now that the public is finding out about Gramm. Didn't McCain's team bother to find out about Gramm before publicly considering him as Secretary of the Treasury?
With Gramm in the driver's seat as McCain's leading economic adviser, now you know why economists and analysts are saying that McCain's economic policy plans are untenable. -
Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 07/11/2008 10:22:00 PM
Posted By: donbl @ 07/11/2008 6:01:55 PM
Comment: The Scotch-Irish are "percentage wise" the largest contributors to the military and are very patriotic.
They, in general, are not Obama supporters.
Webb looked at himself as the token candidate wanted for his background and not his thoughts
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Donble, just HOW do you KNOW all of this? I believe you are "assuming" these things. Gee, and you can read Senator Webb's thoughts? That is absolutely amazing!! Since you can read minds, why don't YOU run for President; just think of what a great President you would make!! You'd be able to read the minds of ALL the world leaders, the members of Congress. Gee, you might even be able to transcent your thoughts to their minds and pretty soon all the world leaders and congress would be in full agreement with you and you would live happily ever after!! -
Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 07/11/2008 9:58:07 PM
Posted By: whiterock @ 07/11/2008 6:55:49 PM
Comment: This is very telling for a man of Webb's stature and experience to emphatically say, "no" to the VP position. Finally, a Dem wth a backbone that is not caving in to the Obamamania that has swept the country. The rest of the Dems don't seem to care that Obama has so few accomplishments and such a lack of experience. If they had gotten behind Gore with the same kind of energy that they have gotten behind Obama, Bush could never have gotten away with robbing Gore of the presidency. Gore had the intellect and the experience...he just wasn't a smooth talker like Barry. Obama was even recorded 6 mos. before he decided to campaign for president by the media when they asked him if he was running for president and he said that he didn't think he had enough experience and that he thought he needed more time in office, first. So, does that mean Obama's just going to be a puppet for the Dems just like Bush was for the Republicans? Are we just getting a man that looks and sounds good but has no substance?
Whiterock, Senator Obama's fellow senators posed the question of running for President! I would say they recognized his unique and outstanding leadership skills (best campaign and best fundraiser in U.S. history!!) and his ability to bring people together (he is solely responsible for the huge turnouts at the polls and caucuses). I would say they recognized he is a man of good character, high integrity, wisdom, great vision, and, yes, his magnificent oratory skills. Wihile you and your cohorts like to deny all of this, you are entitled to you opinion; however you do not have the right to slander Senator Obama or anyone else. Bigotry is ugly, your really should try to lift up yourself. from such ugliness. -
Posted By: singularization @ 07/11/2008 8:39:02 PM
Dear White Rock.. Obama has shown he can navigate a near impossible campaign just a year ago to multi-hundred million dollar Organization out of practical thin air. While George Bush talk like a retarded nine year old ( an insult to retarded nine year olds) and laughs like Elmer Fudd sitting on a juicer, Barack Obama the most elequent delivery of the Language which is refreshing. He Graduated from both Columbia and Harvard as a Constitutional Scholar and has served six years in the Illinois Legislature. He is Obviously More ready than Most to take the Job .. It's too bad you blind yourself to the Phenomanon to placate you Bias . And this goes for the Rest of you Too
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Posted By: Louie @ 07/11/2008 10:35:40 PM
Your are an idiot. Goerge W. Bush is so far ahead and much smarter than Obama. Obama could not figure out that his pastor was a racist, even after 20 years. Obama knows nothing about the real world, foreighn affairs, the economy, taxes, business, nor security. Obama is a media dream; he has done nothing nor is he qualified for the job. You show your lack of intelligence with your cheap comments about President Goerge W. Bush. I only wish there was someone of his stature and ability running for the office.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 8:28:46 AM
Louie, Obama is plenty smart, perhaps one of the brightest senators in DC.
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Posted By: Nins @ 07/11/2008 10:54:38 PM
Sorry, Louie, no matter how much you make like and admire Geo. W. Bush and no matter how much you may dislike and fear Barack Obama, your statement that Dubya Bush is clearly more intelligent than Obama is, well, clearly not true. Just looking at vocabulary and speaking skills alone, Obama obviously has the higher verbal IQ. Looking further at their academic records, again Obama comes out ahead again. I respect that you openly admire Bush (so few people do that he must really appreciate it), but really, this statement of yours is a little outlandish.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 8:31:01 AM
I want to agree with you Nins but then many posters here will accuse me of being your twin as they have before and of course some posters are bringing up my Bush vote again since they have nothing else to try to smear me with. So lame and so boring.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/12/2008 4:11:33 PM
You got me chuckling there, Pia. I saw that post too.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 4:52:45 PM
Lol! If posters here think I'm Nins, I'll take it as a compliment. If only I had her intelligence!
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/11/2008 11:03:56 PM
Didnt you vote for Bush once? Twice? Or was it just Pia who voted for Dubya twice? Its okay, I forgave her. LOL.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 8:27:38 AM
sharenews, I assume you are joking but in case you are not, let me stress again that I have never asked nor will I ask for any forgiveness for haviong voted for the president twice since I didn't commit any crime. Anyone who believes Bush voters need to be forgiven, has issues. Like I said before, I'm not just a 'Bush voter', I'm a person with a heart, a mind and a life.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/12/2008 4:10:21 PM
Pia, yes, of course I was joking about it. I dont hold it against you. Everyone who wants to vote is free to choose their candidate whether others like their choice or not. : - )
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Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/12/2008 2:12:01 PM
Pia...is this true? No you did not "commit a crime", however you were part of the 51% who allowed him to keep commiting his...
It's not a matter of forgiveness, and I can see you have obviously learned, so cary on, I got your back ;)-
Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 2:57:30 PM
Hi HD. Yes, It is true. What is interesting about sharenews who keeps bringing my Bush vote up again and again even after we fought over it and called it a truce, is that she is a McCain supporter even though she insists she is undecided. But you knew that already, right?
I voted for Bush in 2000 because of Bill Clinton's behavior, and I voted for Bush in 2004 because of 9/11. A relative if mine died in the Cantor Fitzgerald offices and nothing was ever recovered. No one knows what that is like until one is faced with such a horrific tragedy.
HD, thanks for not condemning me and thanks for watching my back.-
Posted By: sharenews @ 07/12/2008 4:45:45 PM
Well lets just say I am more of a McCain supporter than an Obama supporter; at least leaning that way; but will vmay vote for Hillary if her name is on the ballot to teach the DNC a lesson. But who knows what will happen between then and now so I am pretty open right now as Nov is still a ways off.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/15/2008 7:07:16 PM
Huh, share, you are definately 100% McCain supporter and zero Obama supporter. You post links to Obama smear sites and post nothing against McCain, in fact you defend him. In conclusion, like Arnold just said on Different Strokes ,"whatcha talking about?"
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Posted By: whiterock @ 07/11/2008 6:55:49 PM
This is very telling for a man of Webb's stature and experience to emphatically say, "no" to the VP position. Finally, a Dem wth a backbone that is not caving in to the Obamamania that has swept the country. The rest of the Dems don't seem to care that Obama has so few accomplishments and such a lack of experience. If they had gotten behind Gore with the same kind of energy that they have gotten behind Obama, Bush could never have gotten away with robbing Gore of the presidency. Gore had the intellect and the experience...he just wasn't a smooth talker like Barry. Obama was even recorded 6 mos. before he decided to campaign for president by the media when they asked him if he was running for president and he said that he didn't think he had enough experience and that he thought he needed more time in office, first. So, does that mean Obama's just going to be a puppet for the Dems just like Bush was for the Republicans? Are we just getting a man that looks and sounds good but has no substance?
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Posted By: donbl @ 07/11/2008 6:01:55 PM
The Scotch-Irish are "percentage wise" the largest contributors to the military and are very patriotic.
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Posted By: raddave @ 07/11/2008 5:52:46 PM
Maybe Sen. Webb doesn't want a job that "isn't worth a warm bucket of piss."
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Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 07/11/2008 10:04:30 PM
Hey, nothing wrong with a warm bucket of p***. Don't you know that it was used to cure athletes foot and other skin conditions? I understand it worked! Besides, remember, we all carry this within us and cleanses our bodily impurities. Hey, think about it, it's a good thing! :):)
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/11/2008 11:12:36 PM
I think it is good to throw on jellyfish stings too if bit out in the ocean. LOL.
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Posted By: Gospadina @ 07/11/2008 5:16:18 PM
If this isn't politics as usual I don't know what is. The good-old-boys are still running the show.
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Posted By: eshuster @ 07/11/2008 4:51:46 PM
John Edwards will be Obama's running mate. This was decided a while back and will be consumated in the coming weeks. He needs a white male from the South to solidify the vote. A woman would be nice, but it doesn't help the ticket as much as a white male like Edwards. I find it offensive, but it's true.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/11/2008 11:16:44 PM
Nah, Edwards doesnt have the experience in the areas that Obama needs a VP to be well rounded with (foreign policy/national security for instance). Obama definitely needs to pick a VP with experience in this area, my opinion, cuz he will need all the strength in that arena should e.g. Bin Laden come out of woodwork with a threat tape or an actually attack on the US in some capacity (God forbid) before the G.E.
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Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/11/2008 6:20:52 PM
Please site the source of your "facts". Thanks
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Posted By: KsNightOwl @ 07/11/2008 4:06:56 PM
Except....... Governor Sibelius is from Kansas and she may be a comming player politicaly, But she is an idiot!!!
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Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 07/11/2008 11:53:36 PM
KsNightOwl is a Republican. Kansas is a republican state. Governor Siblius must be a great person, she won the governorship twice, I believe. I'd also say many republicans voted for her in order for her to win! NOONE can please everybody. However, the hatefulness and bigotry expressed in many of the posts here are inexcusable. One consolation is that these people are in the minority in these attitudes..
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/11/2008 11:19:32 PM
KS, Any scoop on why you say this about Sibelius given you are from KS, or at least I assume so based on your blogger name? I dont know much about her myself.,
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Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/11/2008 4:01:48 PM
Ever wonder why the Obamaheads seem to never post on the not so hot topics for Obama? I guess they are biased as well.-
Posted By: raddave @ 07/11/2008 5:57:52 PM
sure we are biased. Another thing, Why do you feel a need to demonize Obama and his supporters?
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Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/11/2008 3:24:04 PM
Wouldn't that be some funny shyt if everyone refused to run with Obama? He's running out of prospects. And who wants all of their ideas stolen anyway?
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Posted By: Richard1327 @ 07/11/2008 9:32:49 PM
LMAO if Hillary turns him down too - then he loses the general so bad he doesn't get re-elected to the Illinois Senate.
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Posted By: josemarti @ 07/11/2008 3:53:38 PM
He must pick a woman as a running mate. There are a lot of excellent female Democrats including Governor Sibelius of Michigan. If he does not pick a woman candidate, the disappointment will be deep.
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Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 07/11/2008 10:44:07 PM
Josemarti, I believe Governor Sibelius is from Kansas?
Sportlock: You are one vicious racist and bigot! You do NOT know if Senator Webb and Gov Strickland were even on Senator Obama's VP list. The media was saying these two men would be good on the ticket; however that does not mean they were actually on Senator Obama's list. Are you saying no one wants to be Senator Obama's VP because he is a man that is black? That is the real reason you resent Senator Obama, isn't it?? The same goes of Richad 1327. Oh, Senator Obama is not asking Hilliary to be his VP, get used to that. One reason is Bill would believe it was a two (BPs) for one, just like he thought he, too, was on the ticket during the primaries. Senator Obama is an independent man, he is NOT going to allow anyone to TELL him who to select as his runnin mate. I just look at the outstanding people he hired as his campaign team and am sure he'll choose an outstanding individual, male or female, as his running mate. Did you know that outstanding oratory skills and substance go hand-in-hand and are phenomenal?? Few people possess this combination. We are fortunate to have him running for President and he will be a great President!! National Polls have Senator Obama 48% and McCain at 40. (Just thought you'd like to know. :).-
Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/15/2008 7:01:12 PM
Very, very good comments and thank you for calling out the bigots.
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Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/11/2008 6:22:24 PM
Why does he MUST pick a woman? I just want him to pick the person that he feels is best for the job.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/11/2008 11:28:36 PM
sj, I agree. Whomever obama picks it should be the candidate best for the VP role . I wouldnt want a candidate in a role of VP that is a woman if she did not have the experienced needed to complement Obama in where he is greener - and if there was a woman that could fill that role that would be icing on the cake. I know it wouldnt bother me if he didnt pick a woman, but understand how some feel differently.
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/11/2008 3:01:19 PM
Won't be long, and all Barry will have left is, Hillary or Dodd. Bet he takes Dodd. Then Bill can tell him "Obama can kiss my ass", to his face. Hope he has his mike on.
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Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/11/2008 3:22:49 PM
I say it all depends on if he can pull Hilarys female voters first. If he can't, she will be on the ticket. Then he can steal all of Hilarys accomplishments and pass them off as his own. Since he has done this already I would say somemore of the same ole same ole. What the hell happened 3to change we can believe in?
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/11/2008 11:37:32 PM
Well one thing we can now BELIEVE is that he will CHANGE on a regular basis. Change his mind that is. There is no way of getting out of this blatant (SCARY) flip flop on such an important topic!
OBAMA SAYS: Dont tell me words dont matter!
OBAMA WORDS: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela -- these countries are TINY compared to the Soviet Union. They DONT pose a serious threat to us!
TWO Days later . . .
OBAMA WORDS: Iran is a GREAT threat! Iran is a GREAT threat, REALLY! Iran is a GREAT threat, I am not kidd???n here!
WHAT does Obama really believe?? What are we supposed to think if he tells us words DO matter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lx-QcstDcU-
Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 8:37:42 AM
Share, back to your Youtube again for more misinformation? Do you remember that silly finger flipping nonsense you and Zombie posted about five times? You accused Obama of having given Hillary the finger when all he did was scratched his nose, yet you guys whined about it for weeks. Silly and desperate.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/12/2008 4:14:26 PM
Pia, it is what it is. It is the greatest of all of them (mistake) by saying what he said about such an important subject. There definitely was no doctoring of THAT video.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 4:47:49 PM
Share, why on earth would Obama give Hillary the finger? It is ridiculous to believe he did that. As for the video from Youtube, look at the source, cheesy Youtube, and if you believe there was no doctoring up, think again, any video, and photo can be professionally doctored up.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/12/2008 5:26:21 PM
I was talking about the flip flop video. Only can tell you what I saw (it was the video that involved him clamping his hand/middle finger on his face with the two women in the background and the whole crowd screaming and laughing on cue. You tell ME why he would do that.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 7:36:06 PM
That is what I was talking about, the finger flipping video. He wouldn't do that.
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Posted By: Richard1327 @ 07/11/2008 9:30:09 PM
Truer words were never written.
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Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/11/2008 2:19:52 PM
Hey how about the unbiased coverage by newsweak. With Obama for president plastered all over the article lmao. Is this getting obvious to the Obama bots yet? Oh I did see 2 articles on McCain. However, one headline wrote Your choice, CHANGE, or the OLD GUY. No way thats biased.
Second one read. McCain doesn't need enemies, he has friends. Nah no biasedness there huh.
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Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/11/2008 2:16:21 PM
Obamas soul mate? C'mon are you kidding me? Try doesn't want to go down in flames with Obama might be a better phrase. I'd imagine you can't say that being a democrat on the senate wouldn't you agree?
Here we have a us senator that doesn't want to be vise president with Obama and newsweak has the nerve to try and spin it for damage control. Nice try though-
Posted By: sharenews @ 07/11/2008 11:31:47 PM
OMG, SPORTLOCK,
You are too funny the way you summarized the real deal here with Webb not wanting any part of the VP role. You got that right!
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Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 07/11/2008 2:07:30 PM
This one is easy....He knows Barry is going to lose and he wants a shot at the Potus in the future.
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Posted By: befair @ 07/12/2008 2:51:58 PM
Did you not read the article, he gave his reasons for not being on the ticket and you have yet to mention any ot them. This is why so many people make the wrong choice when they cast their vote: They would rather see how many cute remarks they can make and they forget to get themselves properly informed.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 8:32:07 AM
Rocky, Barry does not lose.
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Posted By: Kboogie @ 07/11/2008 2:18:33 PM
If that was the case, wouldn't he want to be VP, in order to run in 2016............?
Well, maybe you're right.....didn't work for Gore. Then again, it did...but it was stolen from..........ahhh nevermind. LOL!-
Posted By: sharenews @ 07/12/2008 4:38:03 PM
Webb will run up against Hillary in 2012 cuz McCain will not run another term I predict.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/12/2008 4:40:58 PM
, , , meaning in the Primaries...
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Posted By: Richard1327 @ 07/11/2008 9:27:09 PM
Web will run in 2012 after McCain's first term is over and he'll win. Web is a true Dem rising star and will have the experience. He'd make a better prez than Obama right now.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/12/2008 8:43:04 AM
McCain will never have a first term. He can't run a country because he couldn't even take care of his crippled and disfigured wife. He cheated on her and later abandoned her for a rich young woman. Nice guy.
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Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 07/11/2008 2:32:02 PM
What's happening with those polls lately?? LOL!!
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