T BOONE PICKENS for President.
The man with the plan.
CURRENT LEADERS IN CONGRESS: guilty of emitting DEADLY GAS!
T BOONE PICKENS for President.
The man with the plan.
CURRENT LEADERS IN CONGRESS: guilty of emitting DEADLY GAS!
Hey Newsweek: If you polled only Republicans, the poll would show McCain wining!
That would not prove anything except that you have no friggin clue about what you're doing when you took this poll. Look for Newsweek to oversample Republicans even more in the next poll to create a storyline that McCain is wining.
Is anyone on the right willing to put their money where their mouth is and bet me that the % of voters id'ing themselves as Republicans and the % of voters id'ing themselves as Democrats on election day in November will be equal as Newsweek's sample has it in this poll?
Every reputable poll has Democrats will 10% + advantage in party idenification. Sorry to destroy your bogus narrative Newsweek, but you dropped the ball with this junk poll, big time!
What a difference asking different target groups can make.
"Obama's overall decline from the last NEWSWEEK Poll, published June 20, is hard to explain"
It's actually not that hard to explain, but it may be hard for the media establishment to understand. It's because he abandoned his principled position on FISA. Contrary to popular narrative, recoiling in horror at the passage of the recent FISA bill is not a liberal instinct - it's an American one. That Obama supported such wretchedly flawed legislation is bad in itself, but the fact that he did so after vowing to *filibuster* any such legislation is particularly painful.
I am an independent. I have sympathies with positions that fall on both sides of the false left-right divide. Until this past week I had the audacity to hope that Obama was not "Just Another F'ing Politician". Now I don't. I know he'll be a better president than Bush (that's a low bar to set), but I now doubt he has the courage or principle it will take to pull America out of the swamp it's drowning in.
The man is a crook and a fraud. Anyone who will look at his associations, laughable Illinois voting record, and lack of conviction, loyalty, or substance, easily comes to that conclusion.
Tony Rezko, is trying to cut a Witness Protection deal. If successful, Hussein will most likely be charged with Federal criminal activities. This guy is filthy.
NOBAMA!!!
And you're just a TOADY of the Elite.
Heh, heh, heh. A wonderful intellect you display. Not to mention your witty and "biting" comebacks. But thank you for applying your "destructive and killer" description to me too. To be considered a TOADY of the Elite by a talking-points spouting liberal robot is a wonderful and comforting development. It makes me ever more sure that the Obamaniacs are indeed brain-impaired, but sad to know there are so many of you lost souls pining for more socialism in your lives.
You should consider yourself lucky to be called a "TOADY of the Elite" buy a guy(?) who just a couple of posts ago advocated for a more intelligent electorate. He did so by denigrating those in flyover country much more stupid (presumably) than him(?)self.
Excellent post! I am actually with you - I hope Obama is not another huge disappointment in the end. Who is "getting to him" I wonder, other than our stupid election process and the constantly yammering pundits on TV: It's really boring. And I'm afraid it's damaging to our candidates, both of them, to be fair.
Kemp Honecutt, you are 100% correct! Only ignorant readers are unable to see through Newsweek''s phoney poll. I still think our elections are FIXED by certain powers who can make a president. [ and, of course, control him].
BO is not a Muslim! He is either a Marxists or an Opportunists. Black Liberation Theology is not Christian. To them Jesus is a symbol of suffering Blacks, but not the Christ. They use the Bible and manipulate it to mask their true agenda.
Wow - I guess the rest of the gang went out cross-burning and left you to man the computer to post racist rants.
Good morning -
It is very troubling the way Newsweek both crafted and is presenting the recent Presidential poll. The story line is that support for Obama has dropped from 15% to 3%. This story line completely ignores the demographics of the two polls.
First, let's look at the party affiliation makeup:
In the June Newsweek poll, the sample is split 26% Republican, 38% Democrat, and 36% Independent.
In the July poll, the sample is split 32% Republican, 32% Democrat, and 36% Independent,
This represents a GOP swing of 12% (6% more Republicans, 6% fewer Democrats). Amazingly, the two polls show a 12% swing toward McCain. This is no coincidence, and this makeup is patently absurd. A Pew Research Center survey in March found that 27% self-identify as Republicans and 36% self-identify as Democrats (which leaves 37% to identify themselves as Green, Independent, etc). Splitting this Newsweek poll sample with an equal number of Republican and Democrat respondents is guarantees a swing to McCain. Note that the June poll party distribution is just about spot-on. The question is why did Newsweek change the sample so radically?
Now, look at the racial makeup:
In the June poll, the sample is 84% white.
In the July poll, the sample is 88% white.
A 4% swing toward a whiter sample certainly affects Obama's support. About 68% of the current US population is white, so while both of these percentages are extremely high, let's assume that a higher percentage of whites vote compared to other races. Why in one month did the % of white respondents increase by 4%?
Finally, the age distribution:
In the June poll 19% of the registered voters are under 40, 39% are between 40 and 59, and 42% are 60 or older.
In the July poll 17% of the registered voters are under 40, 38% are between 40 and 59, and 45% are 60 or older.
It's no secret that the younger the electorate being polled, the stronger Obama's support is. Shifting the July sample by adding 3% to the 60 and older group would predetermine yet more of a shift to McCain.
In the younger, more racially diverse and more Democratic poll, Obama was leading by 15 points. In the older, whiter, and 50%-50% political party poll, Obama is leading McCain by only 3 points. A trained aardvark could have predicted that swing, yet Newsweek and the rest of the media are treating this as a shocking drop of support for Barack Obama.
Numbers can be interpreted many ways. However, it's the media's responsibility when they generate and discuss opinion polls to present them accurately, without bias, and by fully disclosing sampling differences that affect the outcome. None of that was done with this poll.
I would expect an entity such as Newsweek to have a little more journalistic integrity, rather than stirring up issues based on brutally flawed sampling that generates entirely false premises.
Kemp Honeycutt
Houston, TX
Obama can take his "Cling to" racist speech & shove it!
Hey buddy, it's July, not Feb...lol get caught up, or maybe he did have a point.
Yeah go back to Feb and look at Obama's policy stances, now look how far to the Right they are now...Obama makes Kerry look like Ed Kennedy.
Obama's policies have not changed, you are just too lazy to actually do some research on your own, stop listening to FOX news and find out for yourself.
Ummmm FISA....how did that not change since Feb?
How can you change the samples breakdowns so dramatically from one poll to the next and get an honest reading of the electorate? You can???t. Your two most recent polls might as well have come from two different pollsters. Don???t you think you should pick one set of samples breakdowns and stick with it for the remainder of the race? Your cross-tabs really need to adjusted. Ex: There aren't equal amounts of R/D/I's
And don???t you think the samples should be representative to what the electorate actually is?
Neither poll is necessarily right, or wrong. They???re incomparable and you do everyone a disservice by not maintaining a baseline standard from poll to poll.
Newsweek Polls: A Tale of Two Countries
In one country, which Newsweek polled in June, the electorate is split R26/D38/I36. In the other country, which Newsweek polled a few weeks later, that country's electorate is split R32/D32/I36.
In one country, polled in June, 84% of the electorate is white. In the other country, polled a few weeks later, 88% of the electorate is white.
In one country, polled in June, 19% of the registered voters are under 40, 39% are between 40 and 59, and 42% are 60 or older. In the other country, polled a few weeks later, only 17% of the registered voters are under 40, 38% are between 40 and 59, and 45% are 60 or older.
In the younger, slightly more racially diverse and much more Democratic country, Barack Obama was supposedly leading by 15 points. In the country that is somewhat older, is somewhat whiter, and is evenly split between Republicans and Democrats, Barack Obama is supposedly leading McCain by only 3 points.
According to Newsweek, comparing these results shows "what a difference a few weeks can make." A more valid conclusion is that it shows what a difference polling two very different countries can make.
Why does this silliness happen? DemFromCT gave us the answer a few weeks ago.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/12/124829/538/624/550584
Yeah like anyone is going to believe the crap they spew at DailyKos.....its biased as bad as Bill O'Rielly and Rush.
the kos article wasn't really an op-ed, it was merely pointing out differences in sampling between the two Newsweek polls, using the hard, cold numbers. heck, I'm sure I have a bias (I hope we all are somewhat discriminatory, because if we weren't, we could never make a decision; and I mean to use that word in the other, non-racial definition, of course), but I think numbers are pretty unvarnished.
No it's called spinning the numbers. Daily Kos is notorious for it just like FOX is. Would you get your information from FOX, then tout it as fact?
The liberal, left wing media picked Obama for you, made him a rock star, didn???t do their research, sold the public a bill of goods, and then all of us found out he was the same old thing repackaged as new, different and more expensive. Marketing 101.
Davole, Match - Time - Again.....let the (h) oops begin.
McCain's 3 Pointers and Barack's 4 Point Conversion.
A few days before one - on - one - hoop, McCain went to see his doctor for a physical check - up. McCain's doctor told him he was in superb condition for the game, I must also let you know that you're an exceptional man; McCain, why is that Doc? believe it or not sir most men have two balls but you have three. McCain, no wonder I have been shooting those three pointers the way I do. The next day Mccain met barack for their One -on - One Hoop; McCain in bold and fresh mood, Barack I have good news for you; You know between the two of us put together we have five balls; Barack replied, you mean you only have one; McCain in a dejected voice, sorry I forgot about those 4 pointers.
Sunday, July 13, 2008
For the second straight day, the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll shows that the race for the White House is tied. Sunday???s numbers show Barack Obama and John McCain each attracting 43% of the vote. When "leaners" are included, the two candidates are tied at 46%. For most of the past month-and-a-half, Obama has led McCain by approximately five percentage points. It will take a few more days to determine whether this recent tightening of the race reflects real change or is merely statistical noise.
NOBAMA!!!
Newsweekbhg....you talk about whites being uneducated when YOU'RE the one that can't even spell scary right.
If you want to see who will win the election go to http://www.newslampoon.com.
For those of you who do not understand Obama's meaning of GLOBALIZATION, I suggest you google " CFR globalization "
That will take you to the following CFR site - the same CFR that most of Obama's advisory team is a member of.
http://www.cfr.org/publication/9903/sovereignty_and_globalisation.html
After reading this, tell me that this is really what you want to happen to the United States of America.
"Some governments are prepared to give up elements of sovereignty to address the threat of global climate change. Under one such arrangement, the Kyoto Protocol, which runs through 2012, signatories agree to cap specific emissions. What is needed now is a successor arrangement in which a larger number of governments, including the United States, China and India, accept emission limits or adopt common standards because they recognise that they would be worse off if no country did."
Sounds good to me.
"Similarly, America???s preventive war against an Iraq that ignored the UN and was thought to possess weapons of mass destruction showed that sovereignty no longer provides absolute protection."
Sounds very astute.
Globalization is not the demon that it's been made out to be. I suggest you get an economics book and read up on the debate between free trade and protectionism - free trade almost universally produces *real* economic gains in the form of vastly cheaper commodity and goods prices, while protectionism generally preserves the interests of small sectors of a particular nation or state's industry against competition and results in higher *real* prices.
Or, to put it another way, the onus is on *America* to stay competitive and adapt to a global world market, not to shut ourselves out of it in order to protect industries from the consequences of their own poor decisions. If someone is losing their job overseas, I'm sorry for that - but at the same time, the right response, the one that helps the economy the most, is for that person to improve their own skills so that they're competitive enough to *get* a job in the world market. Unfortunately, a lot of people want to petition the government to prevent them from the consequences of world competitiveness instead. In the end, protectionism only ends up hurting the country that employs it, 90% of the time or more...
"Globalisation thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves, because they cannot insulate themselves from what goes on elsewhere. Sovereignty is no longer a sanctuary."
YOU Prefer to be under a world organization ruling the US?
"The goal should be to redefine sovereignty for the era of globalisation, to find a balance between a world of fully sovereign states and an international system of either world government or anarchy."
Their solution is the Trilateral Commission. European Union, Pacific Union and the American Union.
After the way we've acted unilaterally for the last eight years? Yes, I absolutely and unquestionably think that America needs to act more in concert with the rest of the world, not less. I would have absolutely no problems with U.S. membership in a North American Union, as a matter of fact, I'd embrace it wholeheartedly.
There's not likely to be a world government anytime soon, so it wouldn't be a "world organization ruling the US." The most likely reorganization would be some sort of North American bloc - which, unfortunately, we'd end up probably dominating anyway. I urge you to get the idea out of your head that it would be a lot of other countries telling us what to do all the time, which is a fiction born out of fear of people who aren't American. All it would mean in practice is that we'd have to act a little more decently towards our neighbors, most likely, which I think would help out the world situation quite a bit anyway. No matter what, the majority of domestic matters would be relegated back to the individual nations anyway.
You're irrationally afraid of things here, thinking as if all of a sudden America would suddenly be ruled by foreign nations, and that's just not accurate or true here. What's being proposed is greater cooperation on a continent-wide level, not even a world level, and to answer your question, I think it's a wonderful idea.
Prior to our "free trade" policies, the middle class was thriving. Only 1 parent had to work to provide for the family and still could afford paying College tuition for all the children. Mom and Pop's were everywhere.
Since our path to free trade, Mom and Pop's are closed. It take 2 parents working outside the home, and they are unable to pay for tuition for trade schools. Manufacturing plants closed and those jobs were not replaced with new industry.
Our rights are being whittled away continually. I certainly hope you are not offended by the Bush Administration wiretapping your phone, because that will be the wave of the future under globalization.
And, since you are so happy about the AU - not NAU - you must also favor all of the Bush policies, as he too has been following the CFR guidelines. It was his own father that tried to convert the US full pledged to the New World Order on 09/11/1991 (exactly 10 years to the date).
Nice job Jill, you smoked this guy out beautifully. When he admitted he would rather live under a UN or North American government rather than the US government, he showed his true Anit-American colors, which were always just under the surface.
being for a stronger U.N. is not anti-American in any way. The U.N. was set-up as a body to deal with conflicts that arrise between countries and to force other countries to comply with the will of the international community.
"to force other counties to comply with the will of the international community" - well that just says it all. Under no circumstances do I want that freakshow at the UN to be in a position to force me or this country to comply with their "will". What a dangerous and scary concept.
Yet you expect other countries, such as Iran, to comply with the will of the international community? That is totally hypocritical.
Isreal will take care of Iran, since the US is too weak-willed to do it.
I got my education from schools that would have kicked you out on your sorry ass, "jimbo".
And I've saluted my flag - and the ACTUAL principles of my country, not just the "whatever we do is awesome no matter what because woooo!!!! go America! drink budweiser" nonsense that's a disgrace to what my country really stands for - more times than I can count. I got no qualms whatsoever about my own patriotism, but I do think people like you who don't understand American principle but call anyone who actually wants to work with other countries "unpatriotic" are wrecking the joint.
Stop treating books and education like Kryptonite and quit giving the country I love a reputation for being rude, uneducated ***.
Oh, please impress us all with your 'education'. I know we'll all be impressed by your many and varied degrees conferred upon you by tenured professors sadly leftover from the 60's.
Do you really think the UN has been effective at anything? And yet you seem so quick to subordinate the US to an organization that is so impotent. Sounds like a disaster to me.
Your true colors came thru loud and clear, comrade.
No, actually, Bush has been the most unilateral leader in recent memory. Wiretapping has nothing to do with globalization, and the middle class was thriving just about until 2000; it was doing superbly in the 1990s particularly. I despise everything Bush has done to reverse due process, I think he's set us back fifty years in the treatment of human rights, and I think Guantanamo is one of the most shameful things we've ever done, but it has nothing to do with globalization whatsoever. Bush is one of the most anti-global leaders the world has ever seen.
You're cherry-picking statistics and putting words in my mouth, hoping to convince others that my views are something other than they are. "Can't afford trade schools?" Most trade schools are in the low three digits per class, if that. But the way you're arguing doesn't surprise me, since you're also espousing trade policies that would rather see us running to the government like five-year-olds, pointing fingers, to protect us from all those darn people who are making better stuff than we are, instead of actually challenging us to do better, be more inventive, work harder, train ourselves to be more competitive, etc. You don't know how to play on a level playing field, so you'd rather tilt it both by espousing protectionist trade policies and by claiming I believe things I don't believe.
All that's convinced me of, madam, is that you don't actually have the skills, intelligence, or courage to be otherwise. Good day to you.
I apologize for this. I was out of line with my insults here. Please see my response above.
Currently, outside of agricultural products, we manufacture very little to export. Most of what we use now is foreign made. Under globalization in less than 35 years we have gone from self-supporting to totally dependent on foreign goods.
And, that's a good thing under your analysis.
I now have to question whether you are an American or a family member of a CFR member, or a CFR member yourself.
It's an *inevitable* thing under my analysis. Take a look at most developed countries in Europe and you'll find they're the same way. Companies move jobs overseas because in a competitive market, every advantage to lower prices must be taken to avoid pricing oneself out of the market, and in less developed countries, labor is far cheaper. Would you like to ACTUALLY RESPOND to what I said about relative labor costs or do you just not understand the concept?
To answer your question, I'm an American. I work for a small family business - myself, my mother and my sister, running a small store that I believe would qualify as a "mom and pop" under your definition. Contrary to what you're mentioning, for our first year, we're actually doing quite well - but maybe that's because our product line is high-quality, our advertising and signage is extremely professional, our inventory-tracking is computerized and competitive, and that WE GENERALLY HAVE THE SKILLS TO COMPETE IN THE 21ST CENTURY MARKETPLACE. You're not really suggesting competitive business practices here, so it doesn't surprise me that you're not competitive in debate either, and have to resort to making accusations rather than meeting me on my debate points.
Yes, I understand the concept of relative labor costs, but I also value the concept of the human factor. I can follow your line of thinking completely - however I disagree with it based completely on the omission of the human factor. I value quality life more than I value the almighty dollar, or AURO as it will be. The problem with globalization (and your view) is that you completely leave out the displaced workers and that "trickle down effect". To use the sole factor of relative labor costs to evaluate your decisions, you are not looking long term. If less people can afford your product because they are no longer employed, how will you prosper? Eventually, the available market will be so limited and only the largest in your field will survive. Will it be you, or your competition halfway across the world?
As for me, as long as the government charges taxes, I will be gainfully employed.
I think I'll be okay. No one from our town or the surrounding area is going to go fly to China to make the kind of shopping trip they could make at our store. And if I were going to lose my job to Target or whatnot, it probably would have happened already. Our store is a niche retailer that doesn't carry the same kinds of goods the big globalizing department stores do - our most intense competition actually happens to be generally within a block radius of us.
As far as the human factor goes, believe it or not, I agree. I think that in an ideal world, people who lost their jobs would retrain themselves to get new ones in burgeoning industries, but in practice, that doesn't happen. And trickle-down economics is BS, always has been. However, I *don't* think that either one of those things can make a dent in terms of economic realities manufacturing moving to countries with cheap labor costs. What I really and actually think we need are policies that *help* people working in more traditional economic sectors that will be most affected by globalization to retrain and find new positions less threatened by the emerging global economy. I've never ever been a fan of unregulated capitalism, and while I support free trade, I do *not* support unregulated free trade and policy that just throws people to the wolves, and I don't support unregulated globalization. But if we continue to avoid the emerging entities trying to regulate it, what we're going to get is unregulated globalization and capitalist abuse anyway... I think we need to embrace globalization - but with an eye on the human factor, with compassion to those who have trouble adapting to the new economies, and economic help and better education subsidies to help people live in them.
Anyway, I apologize for my rudeness to your response below. Seems like we've actually gotten to responding to each other in a respectful way, so I hope you can excuse my rudeness below and try to respect me as far as talking to another human being goes, and I must do the same with you in turn.
I accept your apology. I, too, would like to apologize for being rude. My upbringing was to look out of other people, so I feel the plight the laid off workers are feeling. (Which is why I became a Democrat to begin with.) I understand only too fully how business is run, as that was my major in college. I just have a problem with the cold hard callous business decisions being made that are detrimental to the majority of the people.
Retraining is great, but God gave us all different talents. Just as I could never attempt to build anything, I can analysis any numbers you have, and I can give you an audit free tax return. When we try to put all people in the same box, they will not fit. Since higher education is no longer affordable for the family of that laid off worker, we now have more people who will struggle to survive. And it becomes the vicious circle.
I'll leave the tax stuff to you, I'll take the science any day...great analysis by the way.
I suggest that you go back to Economics 101: Strong Manufacturing base = Strong GNP
Weak Manufacturing base = Weak GNP.
Most US citizens are already hurting by the transition to Globalization, started in the 70's. Our country is down the path to becoming a weak sovereign nation - which would make us ripe for the Globalization. Just exactly WHAT do you think the Trilateral Commission has in store for another 300 million consumers - not producers? Will YOU be one who survives? Who will be left to save you by the time you realize this is not what you thought it would be? How WILL you feel when you have limited rights?
You don't seem to understand the notion of relative labor costs. Manufacturing is cheaper in developing countries than in developed ones, which is why the majority of manufacturing *worldwide* is moving to countries with cheap labor costs. What this does is drive down prices for the consumer, and actually helps the economy far more than it hurts it. Our GNP is mostly a result of our strong *service* and *technology* sectors, which is also something that's generally a hallmark of developed countries around the world, because developed countries generally have the education to support it better.
As far as "most US citizens are already hurting by the transition to Globalization", to the extent this is true, it's because WE ARE NO LONGER COMPETITIVE in certain world markets where other countries are offering higher-quality goods for cheaper prices. The auto industry is a great example of this - we're steadily losing out to Japanese automakers mostly because Japanese cars are more fuel-efficient, more reliable, and need less repairs. What happens if we start imposing trade sanctions is that the *quality of the goods that consumers can buy either goes down or the price goes up*. Protecting the auto industry with sanctions against Japanese cars, et cetera, DOES NOT PROVIDE ECONOMIC GROWTH. It might preserve the jobs of auto workers at certain plants for awhile, but in the end it hurts the economy, because those same auto workers as well as the rest of the economy end up buying cars that break down more, cost more to repair, cost more in fuel - a particularly important concern given the end of cheap oil availability - and thus the economic benefits to the entire American economy of *owning* a car go down. I know this is a hard thing to tell an auto worker whose plant was just closed down, but in the end, protecting his plant if it's not producing competitive goods isn't the answer. In the long-term protectionist policies give us a severe disadvantage in competing with the rest of the world by driving the quality of our goods down, and they do *not* produce a strong manufacturing base.
I can't help but notice that most people who say "you need to go back to Economics 101" consistently make statements that contradict what's actually taught in Econ 101 classes across the world - in this case, the concept of relative labor costs, economic specialization, and the basics of free trade versus protectionism. What you're espousing is nationalist policy, not actual economics.
As you well know already, the WTO controls our trade policies in which we cannot violate by subsidizing any US industry. And, our CAFE standards have always been set low. We have even been taken to WTO because SOME companies felt our CAFE standards were too high not giving them fair competition within the US. Already the WTO dictates our laws to what little manufacturing is remaining.
Since we are talking about a nation of 300 million, I do believe that we would have enough consumers within our own country to support manufacturing with or without subsidies. However, as long as we are a member of WTO, that option will never again be available.
There are plenty of issues that can be resolved worldwide without having a WIB, WTO, or Trilateral Commission. I do not believe that there is a man or woman alive who is wise enough to govern the entire world. We are having a hard enough time to find a man wise enough to govern a nation of 300 million, even with advisers.
The WTO doesn't "dictate" anything. It's a member organization. Its policies are set by agreement, and we're one of the nations who help to define those agreements. I can tell you want out of the WTO, which is fine, because you're entitled to your opinion. But I don't.
Our population doesn't determine our likelihood to "support" a manufacturing sector, because the prime determinant for how much manufacturing there is going to be in a country is THE RELATIVE COST OF LABOR!!!!!! We don't have as much manufacturing because American workers are TOO EXPENSIVE TO HIRE IN MANUFACTURING JOBS if a company wants to have competitively priced goods!!!!! You didn't respond to a single point I made about actual economic principles - relative labor costs, protectionist policy, the quality of goods - and it seems to me that all you want to do is *** about globalization. Keep bitching if you want to, but the reality is that globalization is happening anyway and will keep happening - regardless of whether the U.S. gets on board or not.
Personally, I prefer to deal with the world the way it *is*, rather than the way I wish it could be...
Yes, the USA labor is more expensive than is labor from Mexico or India or China. But, when you limit the number of available customers for your product, does it matter if it cost you 50% less if you can only sell 25% of what you could 10 years ago? And now, all those US workers are out of decent paying jobs. The concept of Supply and Demand for jobs is now greater for the supply of workers going for less jobs. It's great for the employers - until they try to sell their products. The concept of Diminishing Return has now entered into play. And how much further ahead are you?
As for quality of goods - remind me how many products from China contained poisonous, less expensive materials?
It's greed like using the relative labor cost that will end up costing more in the long run.
I think you misunderstand. Relative labor cost is a force that's not within our control. It's well and good to argue that it shouldn't be used as an economic calculation, but it's always going to be there. The realities of economics being what they are, only banning foreign labor entirely would remove it from the equation. And I absolutely can't endorse completely protectionist policy, because in the end it increases the cost and quality of our goods relative to other countries that do use globalist policies, and within a few decades we'd just fall completely behind.
As far as "can only sell 25% of what you could 10 years ago", the world market is a lot bigger than the U.S. market, so I don't understand this. Regarding Chinese quality issues, I agree that it's a problem, but I disagree that buying only from the U.S. would solve the problem across the board. You've made a good point, and cost-cutting in developing economies is one of the biggest dangers of moving work offshore. I think companies need to do a better job of inspecting their foreign plants, and I think this is an area where government regulation is critical.
Regarding U.S. workers being out of work, believe me when I say I completely understand where you're coming from. And I sympathize. I've worked in tech sectors that have seen massive outsourcing to India - went through a period where more than a few jobs I applied for eventually all went overseas and I was in real trouble. I used to make a lot more than I do now. But I understand the realities of competitive economics, so I'm not crying over what I've lost, since I can't do anything about it anyway. I'm adapting. As I said above, I definitely favor more government intervention in helping workers transition to new economies to the fullest extent possible.
Anyway, I have to go work now, so I probably have to take my leave of our discussion. Sorry for the temper flare-up. It was good talking to you, and thanks for the exchange of opinions.
Again, the concept of globalization completely leaves out the factor of the human element. Until the human factor is entered into any business plan (and globalization is a business) your plan is incomplete. The textbooks can teach you about the basics of the various concepts, but they cannot tell you how to value the human factor. Only good old common sense does that.
You can produce all you want with cheap labor and cheap products, but if you don't have a market to sell to, because so many people are struggling to survive, you are going to lose money yourself. Eventually the percentage of the worldwide market will equate to the same profit percentage as what it would have been had the manufacturing stayed within the US. Only, now there will be billions who will need handouts to survive. Sound a bit like Mad Max and the Thunderdome?
Uneducated whites put Bush in office and kept him there. America is a scarry place.
I'm sure that Princeton Survey Associates understands that sampling error is included in the reported statistical "Margin of Error" which is typically a few points and would not provide additional explaination for the difference between polls. So the possibilities are: a real change of opinion, a flawed polling plan, flawed executuion of the poll, intentional or unintentional bias in sample selection or some other error factor such as the Bradley effect. Finally with so many people dropping their land lines in favor of cell phones it may no longer be possible to have a statistically valid sample in a telephone survey.
It's great to see that, as time goes on, more and more Americans can see what an empty suited hypocritical pandering lying afro centric Marxist Barry Hussein O'bama is. Certainly he is talking out of both sides of his mouth right now. And where is th emedia telling the truth about how much more eliminating the Bush tax cuts will cost MIDDLE CLASS Americans? A couple of THOUSAND dollars per family, that's what!
Newsweek is a liberal RAG they had every Republican President losing in their Polls they had Kerry winning over Bush on Election day by 10 points - When they take Polls they should try calling Republicans in their phone Polls maybe they might get a better TRUE number maybe with a 50/50 survey not the 70 Democrat 30 Republican calls they are using now-
Newsweek is a liberal RAG they had every Republican President losing in their Polls they had Kerry winning over Bush on Election day by 10 points - When they take Polls they should try calling Republicans in their phone Polls maybe they might get a better TRUE number maybe with a 50/50 survey not the 70 Democrat 30 Republican calls they are using now-
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