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  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 07/12/2008 12:31:09 PM

    As for John Adams and the cold molasses movement of democracy, royalty, in the form of the Idiot Prince is what got us into Iraq, sans congress. Democracy is what was just about to get us out, until our candidate waffled. We were screaming in glee at the promise to get out. Now we are trying to remember all of the other promises that we screamed in glee about. How good are they? That's where your poll votes went. Down the failing promise toilet. Better put a bandage on that self inflicted cut.

    • Posted By: Boulder Sue @ 07/12/2008 1:05:19 PM

      Good grief! He's not even elected yet and you're already complaining! Would you like martial law to be put in place 5 minutes after the oath, assuming Barack is elected? Your Bitterness is showing, and I do understand. You see, I am older and wiser myself. This is not a college football game for the national championship. This is serious business. I came of age in the late '60's and know a lot about impatience. With us, one of the moments we cheered was the night Lyndon Johnson said he would not run again. We thought everything would be OK after that. We forgot how long it had taken to get into that mess called Vietnam, and it was only 1968. The worst was yet to come, like the dogs and National Guardsmen on my campus, dealing with the draft and the deaths of many more American military. We got Richard Nixon because he had a "secret plan" to get out of Vietnam. If the Dems had had any sense (in retrospect-and I know this is heresy) they would have begged for Lyndon to come back after JFK was assassinated. History now tells us he was sick of the war and knew worse was to come if we didn't get out. Unfortunately that kind of thing isn't taught in high school history classes (that I know of). It was folks (like me) who wanted all or nothing that allowed the election of Richard Nixon and all the grief he put us through in what was probably, after this last 71/2 year interlude, the worst presidency in modern history. Talk about the cold molasses nature of Democracy! How long did that secret plan take? How many deaths? It is possible to warm up the molasses. Just don't throw it out....

      • Posted By: olderwiser @ 07/12/2008 1:36:20 PM

        Enter Your Comment Guess I can call you Older Boulder then. Somewhat bold. Certainly wiser than I, though decades younger. My compliments.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/12/2008 12:37:39 PM

      I have told you for months. Hussein Obama is a Crook and a Fraud. That is what he is. To believe otherwise, belittles your screen name.

      NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: Pat S @ 07/12/2008 1:32:59 PM

    What a thought...Obama suffers from shrinkage.

  • Posted By: Vickie1ok @ 07/12/2008 12:44:58 PM

    You Obama sheep kill me. Media bias? Obama must be sending you a supply of drugs each month to keep you in your stupor. I am a journalsm major, and I have hever seen such bias in favor of Obama in my life. Hillary Clinton got bloodied and battered by the media more than any other male or female to run for president. Yet, she kept on standing up. Obama responded to every primary she won by sending out surrogate supporters to play the race card. And when he got challenged by the media on an issue, he whined about the media. If he can't be a man and stand up for himself, how in the hell can he be leader of the free world?

    None of the Obama supporters (I'm sure a number of them are paid Obama staffers who do nothing than play the internet) ever provide a reason to vote for Obama, only to dis his opponencts. But not only are you a bunch of unthinking sheep, you are idiots to boot. To keep bashing Hillary Clinton will not bring any of her voters into your camp. You don't have a snowballs chance in hell of capturing this Clinton supporter. You burned that bridge too long ago. But you keep doing what you are doing and everytime you type on a keyboard you just confirm your stupidy and ignorance. I don't know if you sheep can compredend this, but you have to get Clinton supporters and independants to win. Given the dismal state of the Rep party, any Democrat who has a pulse should be running away with this. Obama needs to quit llstening to his slick PR people and hire intelligent people to advise him. Which is another sign of his weakness; he is unable to recognize that. That is a fatal flaw in leadership qualities.

    For right wing Republican rush droids, I suggest you tell you wives to take you keyboards away and lock them until the election. Your diatribe will not win ANY independants or Clinton voters to your side. You are as stupid as the Obama sheep.

    I have been a life long Democrat and will continue to be. But I can think for myself. I, like all of you sheep, was taken in initially by Obama's oratory skills. But when it came time to cast my vote I looked at records and consistency. He had virtually none. At least I know what McCain's core set of values are even if I don't share all of them. I have no idea what Obama's are. I'm sure he loves his family but beyond that, I have no ideal. Like I said before, better the devil I know than the one I don't.

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 07/12/2008 1:23:09 PM

      What kills me is the flagrant rudeness and disrespect shown on these boards. I note you're choosing to stand up for a woman who suggested Obama should bow out of the race because he might be assassinated, never mind all of Hillary's other vitriolic personal attacks. Do you not realize that you're standing up for someone who more or less suggested that *no* controversial candidate should ever run for office due to security concerns? Do you understand that this politically disenfranchises voters of every minority group and is in direct violation to Constitutional principles?

      Hillary started out the race with me only slighly preferring Obama over her. As the primary season went on, the woman ran the *ugliest* campaign I'd ever seen, with vituperative attacks every time she turned around, not to mention that she ran her campaign right into debt not just once but twice. By the end I figured that the only ones continuing to support her were those who were in many ways just as vituperative as she was - and your name-calling bears that out. "Obama sheep"? "Right wing Republican rush droids"? "Unthinking sheep"? "Idiots"? (repeated over and over) I personally don't mind that you're not going to be "won over" to Obama's camp, because quite frankly, we don't need people as nasty, ugly, and embittered as you are supporting the man.

      I support Obama due to his preferences for diplomacy over military action, his stance on oil company windfall profits, his consistent opposition the the Iraq war, and the general dignity which which he's run his campaign. I'm well aware that a lot of Hillary supporters are sliding to McCain's side - despite that both she and her husband have officially endorsed Obama - and I never figured it would be any other way. People who practice the brand of ugly, name-calling politics that you've spewed all over your post were never going to sign up with anyone other than someone who does more of the same.

  • Posted By: Jim F. @ 07/12/2008 12:48:15 PM

    Comment: Barack Obama's apparent lack of core principles and his liberal elitist attitude toward ordinary Americans by him and his wife with comments like Americans "clinging to guns and religion", being "embarassed" because Americans aren't bilingual, America is a "mean country", for the "FIRST TIME" Michelle is proud of this country, or "as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station", is just the beginning as to why people should not support Obama. People didn't know that "CHANGE" meant changing positions to try to appeal to the current audience. Barack is a phony that is a far-left liberal elitist at heart.

    The great majority of the Obama supporters do not know Barack Obama and the liberal news media likes it that way. This guy is so far to the left that he voted against a bill that would have protected a baby born alive during an abortion. This is not only far-left, it is downright evil. There is no reasonable justification for that vote. It goes along with his belief that unwanted unborns are "punishment". He is rated as the most liberal (by the National Journal) in the Senate. His associations are with radical left types. He has accomplished nothing as a Senator. He has shown no leadership traits except to campaign for the presidency. His leanings are to a socialist government just like other Democrats like Maxine Waters who wants to nationalize the oil industry.

    What we have here is a news media that is so infatuated with Obama, they provide no critical coverage of him resulting in a public that is ignorant of his qualifications and his voting history. Imagine if a white conservative with the same weak record of leadership and experience, made the same gaffes, changed positions, and made the same elitist comments, was campaigning for the presidency. If that white conservative was leading in the polls, the same Obama infatuated news media would be calling the public misinformed and making it their mission to inform them of his weak record and would cast him as an out-of-the mainstream conservative.

    • Posted By: ElmerS @ 07/12/2008 1:21:43 PM

      Those who BO counts as his supporters are among the lowest common denominator in America. They take their information in large doses from PMSNBC, NYT, KrazyKos, DummyUnderground, MorOn.org and the rest of the chattering lefties and other pretend informed and parrot it about forums such as these.

      You read them talking about FL2000 when Gore attempted to steal the election and pretend Bush actually did. You read them speaking negatively of the SwiftVets for Truth who simply witnessed Kerry???s deeds. They talk of rich Republicans while ignoring that the ultra rich (Soros) are the puppetmasters of the democrat party.

      They lionize their members like Kennedy, who???s family fortune is derived from stock market manipulation and from alcohol sales during Prohibition. They lionize members like Rockefeller who???s entire inherited fortune comes from his grandfather who personally invented ???big oil??? (Standard Oil = S.O. =Esso = Exxon). They lionize passed champions like FDR who???s initiatives brought us the intrusive and ever-expansive government we have today.

      So why not vote once again for an unaccomplished pol who promises to deliver ever more goodies to the lowest common denominator. Gimme my retirement, you took so much from me when I was working I couldn???t save for myself. Gimme a home, it???s my right, doncha know. Gimme my health care, I can pay for a car and cell phone but goldarnit I won???t pay for my own doctor ??? it???s my right to force somebody else to pay to keep me in good health.

      Hispanic gimmes, women gimmes, black gimmes, poor gimmes, rich gimmes. Just stay on your plantation and democrats will be happy to oblige. So what if they???ve promised to deliver some $50 trillion in grants and programs to people into the future. That???s for people in the future to worry about, today we just need to get elected.

      Pathetic and disgusting are those who pander to the lowest common denominator. More pathetic are those who believe themselves superior to the fleeced because their motives are more compassionate and enlightened.

  • Posted By: valwayne @ 07/12/2008 12:10:50 PM

    Come on Newsweek. Your last poll had Obama up 15 points when ever other poll at the time had him up 4 to 6 points. The times Bloomberg poll did not have him at a similar margin they had him up 12 points. Obviously, another bad poll, but you had the destinction of being not just an outlier, but clearly definitely wrong. And yes over the past few weeks Obama has shown that he has absolutely no principals, but his hateful moveon.org supporters can take comfort in the fact that he is obviously lying as he tacks toward the center, although on Iraq, that was key to his defeat of Hillary in the Primary, he is probably not lying. He's facing reality that the war in Iraq is all but won, and the consequenced of his policy of declaring defeat in the face of victory and giving it back to Iran and Al Queda would seriously damage this country and destroy his Presidency if he is elected. The reliable polls like Gallup & Rasmussen, who aren't working for his campaign, show that he had probably settled from a 5 or 6 point lead to a 3 or 4 point lead. However, Obamamaniacs can take heart. Even though Obama is clearly an old style chicago politician, even slicker and less principaled than Bill Clinton, John McCain hasn't shows to date that he has the fire in the belly to really take the campaign to Obama and beat him, even though it's getting clearer and clearer that anyone outside of moveon.org should be very afraid of an Obama Presidency.

    • Posted By: LoriInMo @ 07/12/2008 12:21:06 PM

      I agree with most all of your post. I think McCain is waiting until after the conventions to begin the real campaign against Obama since that is when most Americans start paying attention. Remember, McCain is sticking with public financing as promised since he is a man of integrity. He has to use his resources wisely but I think the 'fire in his belly' will show soon enough, at least I hope so.

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/12/2008 1:13:43 PM

        Don't forget the Media Blitz before the convention. All that money McCain has now, HAS to be spent before the convention. McCain is raising on par for Obama, the difference now is the RNC and DNC. DNC can't raise any money, because most of Obama's money aren't from Democrats. Obama latest move to have his coronation at Invesco is going to bankrupt the DNC and leave the RNC in a huge cash advantage. I'm sure Obama is going to rethink his public finance pledge soon.

  • Posted By: MariaIsabella @ 07/12/2008 1:09:10 PM

    Oh give me a break. That first poll of a 15 point lead was hogwash and everyone knew it. While Newsweek was toting a 15 point lead, all the other polls showed a 4 to 6 point lead. I have a lot more faith in the Gallup and Rasmussen polls than Newsweek. They probably fabricated the first story, so they could come back a few weeks later and show the real point lead all along, just to run a story like this. The media is a joke.

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/12/2008 11:12:41 AM

    The Zogby polls show Obama in a clear lead across the US in terms of electroal votes. Zogby usually calls it really close. They were accurage during the primaries in calling Clinton-OBama percentages in the various states. I would like to think of my fellow US citizens in a higher regard. Unfortunately, if we end up electing McCain't, it will be telling in more ways than one - our electorate is under-educated, chicken-sh--, and parochial.

    Much too narrow-minded to be the world leader we once were.

    Such a pity. But all good things must come to an end. Look to China, Europe and India to be the future world leaders. The US is seeing its heyday peaking now.

    • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/12/2008 11:16:48 AM

      It was YOUR neoliberal Democrats who handed over OUR manufacturing and outsourcing to CHINA and INDIA. Look up in the Library of Congress for the facts.

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/12/2008 11:19:37 AM

        Not sure what you are talking about - outsourcing is supported by CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS. I worked for an outsourcing advisory firm and the leadership and the companies they advised were all unanimously Republican, supporters of Bush. They even had huge posters in their lobby of Bush and quotes of his featured prominently.

        Go out in the real world and ask the companies' leaders who want to save a buck - they're all Republicans.

        • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/12/2008 11:23:34 AM

          Windfall Profits Tax of 1980, 1981.
          HR 3450 NAFTA 11/22/1993
          HR 5110 - membership to World Trade Organization 12/2/1994

          For starters.

          • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/12/2008 11:48:00 AM

            All of which benefited big business - and Republicans. Good on you, great research. Don't tell me the neocons are against NAFTA? What a joke. Outsourcing is done religiously by the Fortune 100 companies, all of whom are largely owned by Republican, conservative sympathizers.

            Why else is McCain't even in the running? He's such a poor candidate that only by the support of traditional big-business interests does he even stand a remote chance. And a lot of them are swinging toward Obama, just for that reason. Obama is obviously the more intelligent candidate of the two.

            • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/12/2008 1:08:22 PM

              When the neoliberals join the neoconservatives, they are up to "no good". The neoliberals who voted for NAFTA (41%of Democratic Congress) joined the neoconservatives (75% of Republican Congress) to pass the worst trade policy in the short history of the US - NAFTA (HR 3450 11/20/1993).

              While McCain clearly states he supports NAFTA, Obama clearly lies about renegotiating NAFTA - he CANNOT renegotiate under WTO regulations. It was HIS ADVISERS who WROTE and VOTED for NAFTA and WTO. It is HIS ADVISERS who are members of CFR. It is Obama who talks about GLOBALIZATION. Just want do you think Globalization means? DUH!!!!!

  • Posted By: noobgamer @ 07/12/2008 12:13:38 PM

    Comment: "Obama's overall decline from the last NEWSWEEK Poll, published June 20, is hard to explain"

    Are you kidding me? The media focuses 99.9% of their attention on every move Obama makes. Every day I flip on the news and more days than not the first 20 minutes is dedicated to Obama, what his wife wears, whether he had breakfast that morning and what color socks he has on. Just like with Hillary, the news agencies are going to grind this candidate into the dust. I am undecided about my candidate right now, Obama or McCain but wouldn't it be refreshing to see unbiased, fair and equal coverage on the candidates for once? Personally I have chalked up mainstream media to the same level as the National Enquirer or Star magazine. It sickens me.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/12/2008 1:08:03 PM

      The independant news outlets are the only ones you can rely on now. I go to Real Clear Politics a lot they have a lot of good links to a wide variety of news sources and they post both sides of the issues so your better of making an informed decision.

  • Posted By: Boulder Sue @ 07/12/2008 12:17:58 PM

    Mayor Ed Koch had a saying that went something like this: " If you agree with me 9 out of 12 times, vote for me. I f you agree with me 12 out of 12 times, you need a psychiatrist" Ditto Obama. Think of the far reaching consequences of electing McCain: Supreme Court and other court appointmentments, his dedication to " winning" the war in Iraq (at what further cost in blood, money and international relations, the economy and his drill anywhere anytime philisophy, not to mention his opposition to VA benefits. Think of his pal Phil Gramm and their agreement that the recession and the rough time you are and I are have financially is all in our heads. I guess with that last tank of gas I just breathed in too many fumes and I only imagined it was more that twice what I would have paid 8 years ago, 'til I get the MasterCard bill...Yes, I am upset about the the Fisa vote by Obama,, too. I guess that's one of three of twelve I disagree with him on. So I will write a letter, more than one letter, urging possible criminal investigations re; FISA, and Valerie Plame, etc. once he becomes President, if you all who demand a 12 for 12 rating don't prevent me from doing so. Write to the guy and let's see if we can get some sort of commitment on that. We'll NEVER get it from McCain, and you know it! Please don't cut off your noses to spite your faces! If any of you watched the recent "John Adams" series on HBO you know that some of our Founders discovered the hard way that one of the disadvantages of Democracy is that it works slowly, but it is still better than royal or other types of fiat.. Gramm called us a nation of whiners. Can we please prove him wrong and do something about what we don't like, and have a little patience? Would you care for a president Obama or (horrors!) McCain handing down rule by fiat like George III or George W.? Remember that someone we all admired (I think) talked about politics being the art of the possible.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/12/2008 1:06:16 PM

      Now Obama supporters are reduced to begging? HA HA

  • Posted By: cbk16 @ 07/12/2008 12:57:54 PM

    Since Obama has become a Rebublican on many issues, voters are thinking maybe we should go with a Republican. Someone who has shifted on all the major issue, makes is difficult to believe he would not be constantly shifting as president. It should be a democrat year, but polling is showing the Democrat congress approval ratings in the single digits. Rassumssen shows it a one point race, McCain may win this.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/12/2008 1:05:05 PM

      It's still too early, we'll have to wait until next month to see for sure. But McCain can only go up from here. Obama is the holder of his own destiny. So far his judgment is shaky at best.

  • Posted By: Glamdering @ 07/12/2008 1:02:08 PM

    Obama has been swept up by the top level Democratic strategists that cost the Dems the 00' and 04' election. They are corrupt, disconnected from the people, and have very little concerns for legitimate policy. If Obama continues to buy into/let them run his campaign and dictate his behavior he establishes that he's no different than every other puppet candidate, and will simultaneously give away the election. His lead wasn't based on a fringe group, and take a more "moderate" stance won't help him. The lions share people who had an issue with his old platform (pre-nom) were mostly either die hard Republicans, or basing their position on the belief he was a Muslim, unpatriotic, or because of his race. There's a reason that die hard evangelicals and conservatives were switching over to him in surprising numbers. Now all that is jeopardized. It's time to clean house and get the scum at the top levels of the party out. They may have "experience" and "degrees" in the matter, but they obviously don't know jack.

  • Posted By: Glamdering @ 07/12/2008 1:01:15 PM

    Obama has been swept up by the top level Democratic strategists that cost the Dems the 00' and 04' election. They are corrupt, disconnected from the people, and have very little concerns for legitimate policy. If Obama continues to buy into/let them run his campaign and dictate his behavior he establishes that he's no different than every other puppet candidate, and will simultaneously give away the election. His lead wasn't based on a fringe group, and take a more "moderate" stance won't help him. The lions share people who had an issue with his old platform (pre-nom) were mostly either die hard Republicans, or basing their position on the belief he was a Muslim, unpatriotic, or because of his race. There's a reason that die hard evangelicals and conservatives were switching over to him in surprising numbers. Now all that is jeopardized. It's time to clean house and get the scum at the top levels of the party out. They may have "experience" and "degrees" in the matter, but they obviously don't know jack.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 07/12/2008 12:26:15 PM

    "Change" means getting out of Iraq. Going there to see if we need to get out of Iraq is not "change". It's what we've been doing for nearly six years now. Next thing you know, he'll start saying that if we cut and run, they might consider following us home, trying to get the cut and run vote. Horse apples.

    • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/12/2008 12:58:58 PM

      Unfortunately, because we invaded Iraq, we broke it. And, now we must fix it. The question is HOW do we fix it? Certainly not the way Bush did. Certainly not by giving Halliburton, KBR and Blackwater more indebted monies.

      Until someone comes up with a clear way to FIX Iraq, we are stuck there. Just as the USSR left Afghanistan, giving rise to the Taliban and al Queda, we cannot responsibly leave Iraq in shambles.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/12/2008 12:39:49 PM

      You are very clear about, getting out of Iraq. I have a very simple question. If we bring all the troops out, and civil war breaks out, killing hundreds of thousands, and then Iran invades, killing millions and destabilizing the entire region...What do you suggest the U.S. does. I'm curious. Your handle is olderwiser. I think it's misleading at best. WE ARE THERE. It will not change anytime soon. We need to clean up the mess. McCain will do that. Hussein will get us in a much larger conflict.

      Hussein Obama loves America. Like O.J. loved Nicole.

      NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/12/2008 12:50:23 PM

    Awww poor Obamacrats....=)

  • Posted By: donelson @ 07/12/2008 12:26:46 PM

    Big Media want a RACE. That's good for advertising dollars. So many of the stupid and offensive gaffs by both candidates go unreported.

    Q: The WORST thing to happen to America in the last 20 years?

    A: The corporate change of news divisions from "Prestige Operations" to "Profit Centers"...

    The news you get is the news that's most profitable for the Media owners. It has little to do with the facts...


    • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/12/2008 12:48:14 PM

      And the largest news vertical merger was the Time/ Warner and AOL merger. Sanctioned under Bill Clinton's watch.

  • Posted By: Rosemary A. @ 07/12/2008 12:46:44 PM

    Just looking at the big picture - Is there any possibility - a more stable Iraq is a plus??
    Maybe - just maybe - having a presence in the middle east, having made a better situation for the citizens of Iraq - maybe these conditions will eventually send a message to the rest of the Middle East and the world - that indeed the world is flat and indeed it is far better for the human condition for all countries to get along and terrorism can not produce good results - perhaps freedom can. We do have to contend with that little man there - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - but at least we do not have to deal with Saddam Hussein simultaneously. Could that be considered a plus??? Just wondering.

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/12/2008 11:27:38 AM

    Maybe Obama will see that his "pirouettes to the Center" are making him just like every other politician and that it's not a strategy that is working. But most people's biggest complaint about him was that he was "too Liberal" and now they are all following McCain going toward the Right, trying hard to appeal to the lowest common denominator among the Xtian Right, etc.

    I say dump all the idiots and start appealing to the masses of well educated Americans in the suburbs and urban areas of all the major cities. Give the educated twice the intensity in their judgment and vote; decrease the power of the rural, backwoods and less educated populace so we can have a truly rational election.

    This pandering to the morons and rednecks is really getting us in deep trouble - nationally, internationally, politically and economically. We are shooting ourselves in the foot, cutting off our nose to spite our face.

    Don't let this happen to America again - no more cowboys, war heros, super-patriots and pandering to a Christian electorate who is narrow-minded, ignorant and prejudiced. Let's have an election that truly refects the collective INTELLIGENCE of the American People - and not disappoint the entire world for another four to eight years with our terrible judgment and bad actions.

    • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/12/2008 11:32:09 AM

      In other words, rewrite the constitution and the bill of rights to fit your own biased opinion.

      The neoliberal Democrats and neoconservative Republicans are way ahead of you. That IS exactly what has been happening. Even Obama voted against your right of privacy.

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/12/2008 11:38:10 AM

        Jill, you are from Florida. That state is controlled by Conservatives, neo cons and Bush family supporters. You're tainted; it's no surprise you support McTaint. Get with the program. Admit that our forefathers themselves instituted an electoral college system to avoid giving illiterates much of a say in who runs the country. All I'm saying is let the LIBERAL, WELL EDUCATED voters have more of a "say" so that we don't shoot ourselves in the foot.

        Presumably, you yourself are the product of a LIBERAL ARTS education, or at least are well educated. If you still believe in McCain, fine, then your vote is for him. But most people are totally fed up with the BUSH CLAN, and their sycophants (McCain) and would like a change.

        Not sure but I suspect Florida's educational system ranks rather lower in the national scheme; and all the transplants from NYC don't like Blacks. So that's the problem with Florida, in a nutshell. Also, it was the seat of our coup d'etat in 2000 that resulted in Bush Jr. being foisted upon everyone. You should have nominated McCain back then instead of the moron from Texas.

        • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/12/2008 12:38:44 PM

          notrouble,
          I never voted for ANY Bush - George HW, W, or Jeb.
          I had always considered myself a liberal Democrat, until 2007.
          I have a BSBA with major in Accounting, minor in PoliSci.
          I was not educated in Florida, nor under the Kennedy dumbed down education. I went to public school in North Dakota. With pride, I still consider Senator Dorgan as MY Senator.
          I volunteered for the Democratic Party in every election since I was in high school. Until 2007.
          While my children have been subjected to the Kennedy and Bush educational systems, I have also taught my children to research rather than believe that all that is written in history books is true. I have retaught my children math, so they know how to add 2 + 2.

          So, every single one of your assumptions about me is incorrect - other than I am well-educated.

    • Posted By: wilsan @ 07/12/2008 12:00:20 PM

      notrouble...

      Please keep yelling this at the top of your lungs... It's another Obama moment.

      The more the people see the 'Real' Obama follower, the better it will be for all of us in November.

      signed: redneck, Christian, rural, backwoods, moron. LOL! hehehe...

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/12/2008 12:12:33 PM

        So you say.... I bet you're just another member of the Queit Rich Party whose common wisdom veers instinctively away from electing anybody different from our usual mediocrity.

        But if you're really a backwoods redneck, which is not to say you're dumb, then vote for your comfort zone.

        I grew up overseas, and feel it's important to elect a leader that our peers in foreign countries can respect. I guess it's not that important a criterion for someone who's never traveled more than 50 miles or so from his or her hometown. But these folks should not be running our country either. That's the point I"m trying to make. And don't be duped by the Greedy Oil Pretenders party who is just cynically manipulating people like you to do their bidding. Is your economic life really much better under Bush than it was under Clinton? I doubt it.

        Good luck.

        • Posted By: wilsan @ 07/12/2008 12:36:00 PM

          notrouble... I appreciate the kind reply. Thank you.

          My experience is that I was burned pretty badly by the Technology Bubble that came up under Clinton. It almost killed my long-time career in IT. Bush's work with the economy has restore my ability to someday contemplate a comfortable retirement
          To be very clear, I do not (much) fault Clinton for the Technology Bubble, just as I do not (much) fault Bush for the variations of the economy under his admin. But I like to pull out the 'Bubble' blame when others pull out the 'Clinton economy was great story'.


          You talk about the "quiet Rich" party; Did you know that serious recent demographic study has shown that The Democrats have become the party of the Rich? It turns out that the wealthy communities in the East & West coast areas have gone Democrat, and they have the concentration of wealth in their hands.
          Lastly, in my opinion, I want to elect an American President that is an American. We are not European, Asian, or anything else - we are Americans. Our position in the world is unique, our constitution, bill-of-rights, etc are unique... So let's be Americans. Greedy Oil? At roughly 8% - 9% NET profit, that is not greedy. Anything less and they would have to deal with an abandonment by shareholders (about 50+ million of them). I hope they keep making money for their shareholders retirement funds, income, etc.


    • Posted By: ElmerS @ 07/12/2008 11:38:54 AM

      Thanks but no thanks. We don't need any more nannying from self-proclaimed "intellectuals" such as yourself. It is the enlightened who arrogate to themselves the power over others' private property through oppressive government. Those who's jobs don't pay enough to deliver the kind of life to which they believe themselves entitled turn to government to rob from those who do make enough.

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/12/2008 11:41:35 AM

        Exactly what the GOP elite has been doing for the past 20 years, as best they can.

        • Posted By: LoriInMo @ 07/12/2008 11:47:42 AM

          You are an elitist moron. Obama is your man!

          • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/12/2008 11:54:19 AM

            Don't confuse "intelligence" with "intellectual elitist" - I'm saying we are all collectively more intelligent than the powers that be (CONSERVATIVES, lately) give us credit for. They think they can manipulate and cheat to put their "poster boy" on the "throne" but we are going to outsmart them this time and elect someone they are threatened by - for goodness knows what reason - and hopefully Obama will be that person.

            but if you swallow that crap about Obama being "elitist" then shame on you! He's not. It was Hillary Clinton, and the right wing neo-cons who applied that label to him. McCain't and his types (including Clintons) like to appear to be on the side of the "working people" of the US so they can promote their cause by appealing to the super-patriots, the ignorant and the narrow-minded bigots that still thrive in our country. By so doing, they obfuscate what's really going on - they're taking power once again to wring more money and profits CYNICALLY out of our governmental system so they can continue to line their own pockets at the expense of the rest of us.

            Are you gooing to let yourselves be HOODWINKED AGAIN by the quiet rich party? That's sad.

        • Posted By: ElmerS @ 07/12/2008 11:45:14 AM

          The GOP elite is the same as the democrat elite, delivering more government to those too unwilling to do for themselves. You know the type, the greedy who covet that which they do not have and demand something they cannot buy, because somebody else has it.

    • Posted By: LoriInMo @ 07/12/2008 11:48:47 AM

      You are an elitist moron. Obama is your man!

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/12/2008 12:35:19 PM

    Saturday, July 12, 2008 Email to a FriendAdvertisement
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    NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: Texan99 @ 07/12/2008 9:20:11 AM

    This article is funny. Voters are uncomfortable with Obama, but it's "hard to understand why," unless they're "confused about his religion"? I'd say people are less confused than offended. They may not care that much whether Obama attended Koranic studies as a child, but they care a lot that he attended an openly racist eelbrain church for 20 years as a grownup.

    The comments about Gramm are funny, too. Honestly, is there anyone who doesn't agree that Social Security is a "disgrace"? If it's so fabulous, why is it mandatory? -- except for legislators and unionized teachers, of course. I've never included the expectation of a Social Security check in my retirement plans, and I never will. It's a welfare tax, pure and simple. I'll never see a dime of it. I'd go beyond "disgrace" and start throwing around words like "fraud" and "lunacy."

    • Posted By: Splainin2Do @ 07/12/2008 12:34:42 PM

      Enter Comment
      Phil Gramm did not say Social Security was a disgrace. He said you and your felllow Americans were "whiners." He was right about you.

    • Posted By: Splainin2Do @ 07/12/2008 12:23:36 PM

      This commenter is evidence of the stupidity of the electorate in Texas that gave us George Bush. The only people in Texas who are not covered by Social Security are public school teachers. And their retirement system, because of a bad stock market and a cheap Republican legislature, has not given retired teachers a benefit increase in seven years. They can't afford to drive to the gas pump, much less fill up there.

  • Posted By: SAGG @ 07/12/2008 12:27:07 PM

    Tell you all what: Let's see how the next poll for Newsweek will be AFTER Phil Gramm's incredibly stupid comments about most American's economic problems being in their heads, which in turn made them sound like whiners. We'll see the newest gap between Obama and McCain then. Otherwise, don't bother me with such trivial nonsense.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/12/2008 12:34:08 PM

      I'm looking forward to the polls, after Hussein's, Nazi Party Style acceptance speech. It will not be received well. He puts himself on the Jumbotron, and he's big brother. IF he can get 75,000 shouting, YES WE CAN, he becomes Hitler. Fights and riots break out, and we see a preview of a Hussein America. He is in a corner. He will screw it up royally. His candidacy is on the verge of crash and burn.

      NOBAMA!!!

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