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  • Posted By: wordlover @ 07/14/2008 2:28:53 PM

    I think the majority of people know that we need a change. Barack Obama is a "refreshing" new start. He is intellectual and talented and I think willl surround himself with a knowledgeable Cabinet./Advisors. We're all feeling the pinch at the pump, supermarket, etc. and in the stock market. I can only remember how good things were in that respect, when President Clinton was in office.!!!!!

    • Posted By: IELeibowitz @ 07/14/2008 2:45:15 PM

      The bit about what you think people know, Obama being refreshing, and your opinions about his intellect and talent are only noteworthy because of your handle -- you certainly love Obama's words.

      As for the part about how good the Clinton years were, the man had the good fortune to ride an economic boom that had more to do with the explosion of the Internet, globalization, and shifts to service-oriented industries than it did with any policies of his administration. Moreover, economists were warning that an economic correction was overdue by the time Clinton left office, which indicates that the rot had already begun to set in during his watch. If you are going to give him the credit for the boom, then be consistent and give him the credit for the bust as well.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/14/2008 2:35:17 PM

      Of course we need change, but is Obama's change what we need? I'm still trying to pin down what his core beliefs are, since they change weekly.

  • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/14/2008 2:43:06 PM

    Refreshing? Obama isn't change, he's a Chicago trained politician who believes in paying off his supporters.

    Pay to play explains Obama's flip flop on the FISA vote this week, which gives communications companies who have been big donors retroactive immunity from lawsuits for violating their customers' Constitutional right to privacy, and his earmark requests to benefit Emil Jones, Jr, (the architect of his Senate campaign and one of his presidential campaign leaders), and Excelon (whose management has raised big bucks for his campaign), and even his own wife's employer -- who gave her a big raise -- isn't there an ethical conflict there?.

  • Posted By: wordlover @ 07/14/2008 2:34:20 PM

    Barack Obams would be a "refreshing" new start. The majority of people realize what bad shape we are in under George Buish. Obama is intellectual and talented and I believe will surround himself with a seasoned Cabinet/Advisors. I can't deal with "more of the same". The sticker shock at the pumps, supermarkets and in the stock market is hard to handle. I can only remember who much better these were under President Bill Clinton!!! Was he a saint? NO. But our country was in much better shape overall!!! Consider giving Senator Obama a chance to see what he can do for our country. Our men need to stop dying in the war....it shouldn't have been started...it needs to stop.

  • Posted By: JuanitaG @ 07/14/2008 2:32:31 PM

    This discrepancy is due to the fact that many people who voted for Obama in open primaries actually were voting AGAISNT Hillay and were McCain voters all along.
    Obama is not a Savior, is is mortal, falwed and human. But he is honest and intelligent and after 8 years of dishonest, holier than thou and moronic leadership the country has suffered from image abroad and at home. We have gone from peace to war, we have gone from a booming economy to a recession, we had a suplus and now we have trillions of dollars in deb t, gthe dollar is losing ground and other countries have begun to catch up and lead in areas of technology and space, our education produces barely functional illeterates in a very competitive global market, we have seen oil prices jump and affect our abundant way of
    life and it isn't hard to make the connect in the average persons mind to the PRESENT ADMINISTRATION. Albeit that many of these things were trending this president lived in hopeless lala land and denial or incompetence. Somewhere the buck has to stop,
    What Obama offers is the promise that he will use his God given intelligence to get us back to greatness, take our place in the world by sharing and working together instead of confrontation and military soluntions. He does offer hope and leadership.
    McCain himself is a decent man, he has no more exzperience than doers Obama because he has never been preseident. What is also offers is not so attractive, more of fear mongering, more of Republican "valuers" and solutions to the problemss of education, poverty, enviroment, global commerce, jobs and health. So far not so good. Time to let the other team TRY

  • Posted By: Jeff081 @ 07/14/2008 2:16:03 PM

    The discrepancy is easy to explain, the polled everyone wearing an Obama button.

  • Posted By: just jerry @ 07/14/2008 2:03:12 PM

    The explanation is easy, it is just not an explanation those awe struck by Obama refuse to consider. Obama has definite flaws that are now coming to light. He isn't a "Savior", he is a mortal human being and another politician, much like other politicians.
    Obama may speak well, but McCain has an actual history of doing what Obama merely says and McCain has been doing it in that beastly place called Washington DC for several years. He is truly non partisan, has humility, puts the country above his own interests, and takes on his own party and president when the situation calls for it. Whether it is campaign finance, immigration, the use of torture, etc. he has been there and done it for the country, not his own political interests.
    As people become aware of Obama's status as a mere mortal and McCain's actual non partisan actions, of course, the race is going to tighten.

  • Posted By: VinnieTheSnake @ 07/14/2008 1:56:26 PM

    "Vanquished Hillary" --vanquish vt. 1a. to defeat in battle..... Obama got fewer votes than Hillary and I do wish someone in the media would acknowledge that!
    The reason Obama's losing followers (and I do mean followers) is because the more we know about him the less we like him. That might also be why he lost eight of the last eleven primary elections.
    I do wish all those media giants had vetted him before they crowned him.

  • Posted By: Pete Kent @ 07/14/2008 1:55:38 PM

    I think Obama???s recent performance in the national polls is indicative of the nation having a ???summer crush??? on him.

    While much of the internals of the recent Pew poll were very good for Senator Obama, by a margin of Three to One the voters believe McCain is better able to handle a crisis. This is very bad news for Obama, as it shows that he has not passed the Commander in Chief test yet. At the end of the day, voters instinctively know that politicians do not fulfill their promises, but what they are looking for is integrity and leadership, coupled with judgment. Eventually, Iraq will be Obama???s downfall and if the publics??? about face on it is as big as I suspect it will be (and Obama???s camp apparently fears) then this could turn into a rout.

    I suspect that the Senator may yet be left alone under the Boardwalk come the cool weather.

    And for the record, why are voter so dumb? Everyone knows he attended a madrassa, a Muslin school and that he was raised as a Muslin and only converted to Christianity!

  • Posted By: aliotta @ 07/11/2008 10:49:49 PM

    For all you liberals out there .143 days as a senator definately does not qualify you to be the leadrer of the free world. WAKE UP PEOPLE.Obama is a great orator and THAT IS ALL!!! Your future is in jeapordy.nothing is perfect in this world.LEARN TO LIVE WEITH IT.THERE ARE NO FREE RIDES!!!!

    • Posted By: raddave @ 07/11/2008 11:02:42 PM

      Obama has 3 and a half years as a U.S. Senator, that is quite a few more days than 143. He also has seven years as a state senator. That gives him 10 years of political experience. Abraham Lincoln only had two years experience as a Member of the House of representatives and he was a pretty damned good president.

      • Posted By: johnnyrocket @ 07/11/2008 11:51:07 PM

        He had 143 days when he announced he was running. Grt the facts straight. Obama is not the guy we need in the white house.
        knock knock
        who's there?
        eyes
        eyes who?
        eyes running fo yo president,,,

        • Posted By: raddave @ 07/12/2008 2:34:04 AM

          Obama was sworn in (on his family bible, not the Quran) to the 109th Congress in Jan 2005. He announced his presidential campaign in February 2007. That is two years and one month. 143 days is a little over four months. Get your facts straight! Its quite simple to find information on the internet.

          • Posted By: Dan_KC @ 07/14/2008 1:23:39 PM

            @ raddave: Between Jan. '05 and Oct. '06, the Senate was in session for 143 days. Thus, BHO had a total of 143 working days of experience in the Senate before deciding he was ready to be Commander In Chief. This man is still in diapers. YOU get your facts straight.

      • Posted By: sedonakaren @ 07/12/2008 12:04:03 AM

        I think if you simply look at the way the two candidates run their campaigns, it tells you all you need to know. It demonstrates their judgment, their ability to strategize and deal with problems. It demonstrates the kind of people they choose to surround themselves with, and their ability to budget and handle the money they get from their fund-raising . It shows you how they answer personal attacks, and how hard they plan to work for the job. Barack just finished a grueling 1-1/2 year campaign, while McCain had several months to recover from a race that was pretty uncompetitive. McCain did not use his time well.

        I live in the same area that Senator McCain lives (Sedona, Az), and he spends every weekend here, not on the campaign trail. And hey, will somebody tell me why I've yet to see a live tv picture of McCain without that ugly face of Joe Lieberman staring over his shoulder? Or Lindsay Graham? Or both?

      • Posted By: sedonakaren @ 07/11/2008 11:55:54 PM

        Neither does getting shot down and captured by the enemy and having the snot beat out of you for 5-1/2 years qualify you for anything except maybe PTSD.

        McBush is always talking about his "honor," too. Was it "honor" that made him cheat on his wife and 3 kids and not only shack up with Cindy, but apply for a marriage license with her BEFORE he was divorced from his first wife? Where is his honor when he lies about things he told his captors ("I gave them the names of the Pittsburgh Steelers or was it the Green Bay Packers?" when asked for the names of his squadron. I guess when he's in Pennsylvania, it's the Steelers, and when in Wisconsin he changes it to the Packers. What crap.

        He's lied outright repeatedly about the fact that he said "I don't know much about Economics,....I need to be educated." Now he's saying he never said that, and he's VERY knowledgeable about it. More
        crap.

        I said it the last two elections, and I'll say it again this time. IF THIS COUNTRY ELECTS THIS MAN, THEN IT DESERVES HIM. he will have us in a third war with Iran, and possibly a fourth, with Pakistan, before we know what hit us. That's all he knows. War is what makes this little man with the Napolean complex feel like a "man." How do I k\now this? Justg listen to him. He makes JOKES about it, he comes alive only when he talks about it. When he's talking about something important to voters,like the economy, he practically goes to sleep on his feet (and nearly puts me to sleep.)

  • Posted By: Tuffyz @ 07/14/2008 1:15:10 PM

    The voter's integrity and intelligence have been underestimated thus far. Biased opinions demonstrated by certain media indicated to all of it's viewers that the big media believes that we the people are very ignorant and are easily manipulated which has proven to be far from the truth.

    Say NO to the snake!

    ~Vote McCain 08~

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 07/13/2008 10:13:36 PM

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumen
    thal/pastor-hagee-the-antichri_b_104608.
    html


    On March 16, 2003, on the eve of the United States invasion of Iraq, Pastor John Hagee took to the pulpit to warn of the coming Antichrist.

    In his Sermon, "The Final Dictator," Hagee described the Antichrist as a seductive figure with "fierce features." He will be "a Blasphemer and a Homosexual," the Pastor announced.

    Then, Hagee Boomed, "Theres a phrase in Scripture used solely to Identify the Jewish people.

    NOTE: It suggests that this Man [The Antichrist] is at least going to be Partially Jewish, as was Adolph Hitler, as was Karl Marx."

    This "Fierce" Gay Jew, according to Hagee, would "Slaughter One-Third of the Earths population" and "Make Adolph Hitler look like a Choir Boy."


    Hear Pastor Hagees latest Judeophobic, anti-gay rant in this video, created by Bruce Wilson of Talk2Action.org


    Exposed here for the first time, Hagees comments identifying the Antichrist as a Partly Jewish Homosexual arrive in the wake of a furor the pastor provoked by describing the Holocaust as an act of God.

    Hagees Chilling sermon about the Holocaust prompted Sen. John McCain to reject the preachers support, an unexpected turnabout after McCain spent over a year soliciting his endorsement.

    ------------------------


    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 1:40:14 AM


      Who is Reverend Wright? He is:

      Obamas religious/spiritual mentor for 20+yrs;
      Obamas Preacher at his church for 20+yrs. Trinity United Church of Christ www.tucc.org
      Obamas close friend for 20+yrs (he refers/referred to him as family, like an Uncle to him).

      This is Reverend Wright : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc2FCJ7zWEQ

      Nice guy, huh, to have as your spiritual mentor and your close friend for over 20yrs.. . you think?

      . . . and people wonder why many of Americans want to know more about Obama as to what he has absorbed from this Preachers anti -American/government hateful and racist inspiring sermons after 2 decades of sitting in the pews inhaling this mans beliefs which go beyond the religious sector and into what he preached that were negative beliefs about our country itself? Does anyone really think that Obama and Michelle just sat there in the pews for 20 yrs with their hands folded on their lap while the rest of the church members got excited and started clapping their hands, jumping up, yelling and smiling in approval and belief of such hateful rantings conducted by their Rev. Wright? Plus, what type of message did sermons such as these (Wrights norm, these are the beliefs he passed onto his church members) to the next generation, Obamas children who were baptized in this church and attended sermons. And people are making a huge deal about McCains association to Hagee by seeking his endorsement and getting it, but to then immediately denounce it? At least McCain did not ***-foot around when the media made it an issue.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/14/2008 7:45:53 AM

        Sharenews, lol! I'm sorry, I have to laugh at you bringing up Rev. Wright again. So desperate and so unbecoming. You need new material. I myself have some new stuff about McCain. Seems that when he cheated on and abandoned his disfigured and crippled wife for rich and young, and healthy Cindy, he also abandoned his three small children. So, as you can see, there is no one McCain can be loyal to when it comes to his own agenda.

        • Posted By: republicrat1984 @ 07/14/2008 1:14:00 PM

          I must agree with you. Rev. Wright is old news. but we have talked about him for less than one year. he is still pertinent. he should not be the only evidence, but he is still evidence. although it is sad that she has no new material, neitherdoes anyone else.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 1:26:07 AM

      Omaar, nobody discrediting that Hagee did not say any of those words that we all found out about, including McCain. McCains aides said that Hagee was never properly vetted before McCain accepted Hagees endorsement. Either way, immediately after hearing of Hagees dispicable comments, McCain denounced his words and rejected his endorsement and has since never associate with him.

      Plus, remember. Hagee was not McCains pastor, nor his spiritual mentor, nor a close friend (nor like a family member like Obama referred to Rev Wright) for 20+ years.

      Hagee was someone that endorsed McCain, then said some dispicable words, and McCain denounced and disowned his endorsement after that.

  • Posted By: thejoshuablog @ 07/12/2008 5:35:53 PM

    How can you change the samples breakdowns so dramatically from one poll to the next and get an honest reading of the electorate? You can???t. Your two most recent polls might as well have come from two different pollsters. Don???t you think you should pick one set of samples breakdowns and stick with it for the remainder of the race? Your cross-tabs really need to adjusted. Ex: There aren't equal amounts of R/D/I's
    And don???t you think the samples should be representative to what the electorate actually is?
    Neither poll is necessarily right, or wrong. They???re incomparable and you do everyone a disservice by not maintaining a baseline standard from poll to poll.
    Newsweek Polls: A Tale of Two Countries
    In one country, which Newsweek polled in June, the electorate is split R26/D38/I36. In the other country, which Newsweek polled a few weeks later, that country's electorate is split R32/D32/I36.
    In one country, polled in June, 84% of the electorate is white. In the other country, polled a few weeks later, 88% of the electorate is white.
    In one country, polled in June, 19% of the registered voters are under 40, 39% are between 40 and 59, and 42% are 60 or older. In the other country, polled a few weeks later, only 17% of the registered voters are under 40, 38% are between 40 and 59, and 45% are 60 or older.
    In the younger, slightly more racially diverse and much more Democratic country, Barack Obama was supposedly leading by 15 points. In the country that is somewhat older, is somewhat whiter, and is evenly split between Republicans and Democrats, Barack Obama is supposedly leading McCain by only 3 points.
    According to Newsweek, comparing these results shows "what a difference a few weeks can make." A more valid conclusion is that it shows what a difference polling two very different countries can make.
    Why does this silliness happen? DemFromCT gave us the answer a few weeks ago.
    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/12/124829/538/624/550584

    • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 07/12/2008 5:53:36 PM

      Posted By: thejoshuablog @ 07/12/2008 5:35:53 PM

      "....In one country, which Newsweek polled in June, the electorate is split R26/D38/I36. In the other country, which Newsweek polled a few weeks later, that country's electorate is split R32/D32/I36.
      In one country, polled in June, 84% of the electorate is white. In the other country, polled a few weeks later, 88% of the electorate is white..."

      *****
      In the end, the only country that matters is the United States of America. Other countries don't count.

      • Posted By: loriw @ 07/12/2008 5:58:46 PM

        It would appear that 4% of the population underwent a race change operation between the dates of the 2 polls....

        • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/12/2008 6:08:20 PM

          What I wanna know is, why is it when Obama is down, it's always about race? Why can't it just be that Obama has flip flopped on too many issues and some people, both white, black, hispanic, asian, blah blah just don't trust him?
          The whole everyone is against him because he is black is stupid, besides considering his father was only 1/4 African Black and 3/4 Arab...Obama doesn't even count as black.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/13/2008 4:05:32 PM

            Z, what I wanna know is, if you and other McCain supporters care so much about good character why are you supporting a cheater? How can a man of good character treat a poor disfigured and crippled woman the way he treated his wife by cheating on her, leaving her and then divorcing her for a healthy, rich, younger woman? How can a man, a war hero who supposedly withstood torture, not be able to withstand the permanent tragic aftermath of his wife's accident? What of 'for better or for worse?' Because in reality, he is a selfish man.

            • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/13/2008 4:57:15 PM

              Obama is just as selfish as any other politician. You may have concluded from my support of Bill Clinton, I really could care less if McCain had or didn't have an affair, that between Him, His Ex and his wife now. Most everyone has cheated or been cheated on in this country now a days. Do you fault someone because they have a divorce? Do you know all the circumstances for that divorce? I don't know about you but I don't. Most people if they admit it or not, would take the money wife anyday.
              So why can you support a man that makes a promise to filibuster a Bill, then when the Bill comes up just votes yes? A man that lied about his origins, was he conceived at Selma like he said in a speech? Umm he was 2 at the time. Was his father brought over by Kennedy? Um no....ha for once read his book. He contradicts himself from print to oratory. Which one is true?

              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/14/2008 12:11:20 PM

                Most everyone in the country has cheated or been cheated on? I hope you don't believe that.
                I do care about a man leaving his crippled wife. That is the reason he left her, because she was disabled. He had no courage to live with that every day. If he was of good character like I thought he was he would have stood by her. So very intersesting that with McCain supporters, good character is a requirement for Obama but not for McCain.

                • Posted By: IELeibowitz @ 07/14/2008 1:03:00 PM

                  "That is the reason he left her, because she was disabled."

                  Prove it.

                  I am not saying that that is not possibly the reason or even one of the reasons that John McCain divorced Carol McCain, but I am asking that you present factual evidence that you know the mind of John McCain and the circumstances that actually contributed to the breakdown in his marriage.

                  Yes, how someone treats his or her spouse is relevant to judging that person's character. Moreover, divorce can and should be included in assessing another's character, especially a public figure. In making that assessment, however, it would be best for you to stick to evidence rather than simply asserting your own omniscience.

          • Posted By: Pansycritter @ 07/12/2008 8:33:48 PM

            The Hawaiian wonder needs help wherever it can come from. Yet who has tossed more blacks under the bus than Obama? Let's start the count:

            1. Rev. Wright
            2. Michelle Obama
            3. Jessie Jackson

            And those are merely the news worthy...

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/13/2008 4:11:15 PM

              McCain, a man of such good character has quite a few ' throw under the bus' under his belt.
              1) McCain threw his disfigured and crippled first wife under the bus. He cheated on her and then divorced her for a healthy, rich, younger woman.
              2) McCain threw his camp advisors and manager under the bus, just last week.
              3) McCain threw war vets under the bus.
              4) McCain threw all of his pastors under the bus.
              5) McCain has thrown US Banks under the bus.
              6) McCain has thrown his own party under the bus.
              7) McCain is not attempting to throw Pres. Bush under the bus.

              Is there anyone McCain can be loyal to?

              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/13/2008 4:18:36 PM

                Sorry for typo. McCain is NOW attempting to throw Pres. Bush under the bus.

                • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/13/2008 4:57:35 PM

                  You threw Bush under the Bus too didn't you?

                  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/13/2008 6:33:27 PM

                    Zombie, this is a very lame attempt to try and discredit my credibility. I didn't disown Pres. Bush. I came out and announced that I had voted for him twice and got a beating from several posters for it. In fact some here keep bringing up my Bush vote and I post the same thing over and over that I voted for him twice. I will never deny nor excuse it .Yesterday I posted why I voted for him. But Z, this is not about me. I'm not
                    running for president, your candidate is. If McCain was able to withstand imprisonment and torture, why was he not able to withstand marriage to a crippled spouse? Marriage is more than sex and love, it is about understanding, companionship, taking care of one another, devotion, loyalty, support, and compassion.

                    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/13/2008 7:16:31 PM

                      No I was just making a point that a lot of people has disowned or thrown Bush under the bus. I don't like him, I never voted for him and I'd throw him under any bus in a NY minute.
                      I answered your question about McCain's first wife above. That's what marriage means to you, but don't think everyone has the same expectations as you do.

                      No matter what I'll support McCain over Obama anyday. I mean do you know what Obama really stands for? Besides himself? He has failed a several promises he made during the Primary, and its only July. He still has plenty of promises left to break. To be fair I think probably 20% of the reason I'm voting for McCain is because I don't like how Hillary got treated in the Primary. Talk crap all you want about it, but I know you'd be the same way if Hillary had won, who would you be voting for if Hills had won? Hillary or McCain? Or would you stay home and let your vote be wasted?

                      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/14/2008 12:18:05 PM

                        Only Obama has failed at promises made during the primaries? McCain can't make up his mind as to where he stands. He changes to suit his agenda and that is why he keeps throwing everyone under the bus.

                        As for my expectations of marriage, you got that right, I do expect, loyalty, devotion, understanding, companionship and compassion. That is what marriage is all about for most people. Without it, there is no marriage.

              • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/13/2008 4:58:10 PM

                Any one that throws the GOP under the Bus is getting my vote... ha ha sorry.

            • Posted By: wayale @ 07/13/2008 12:02:08 AM

              when has he tossed his own wife over? that's ludicrous. to comment on zombiehero's comment: the point is, the msm is trying to make it about perceived flip-flops and things like that. and that might be valid criticism if they hadn't changed the sampling of the poll. but newsweek did change the sampling. it's simply fact that Obama gets a larger percentage of the vote from minorities, so any shift away from polling minorities will hurt Obama in the polls. people aren't looking for an excuse to blame race as to why the polls are close; they're simply pointing out individual circumstances where race might play a factor.

              • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/13/2008 9:31:59 AM

                It's supposed to be a random sample, that's the purpose of a poll. Look at Obama, Independant numbers in this poll, they are down....Flip Flops, it's not always about race.

  • Posted By: jm1673 @ 07/12/2008 5:37:37 PM

    Obama IS fading because people are seeing what he's all about. The hype during the Dem primary is not for the General Election electorate. Now, it's about the candidate. A candidate who has NO experience for the position he is applying. Any other year, any other time, people would LAUGH at a candidate with his experience (and past) vying for the presidency.

    www.hellnobama.com

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/12/2008 6:09:35 PM

      Like they laughed at Bush Jr., whose only experience was a Texas Governor for a few years while he managed to put Texas on the map as second only to Iraq in terms of its vicious death penalty?

      Like they laughed at Bush Jr. when his daddy's friend arranged for his Supreme Court vote to put him on the Throne of the White House?

      And look how well he's done. Aren't you all proud? Such a moron, too many hoodwinked into supporting mediocrity -- and they're all hellbent now on voting for McTaint. McCain was better 8 years ago, before he became "tainted" by the Bush family and their agenda.

      Cheers - good luke in November. Obama will win.

      • Posted By: Pansycritter @ 07/12/2008 7:56:46 PM

        No dear, Obama will lose. He does not have the HRC supporters, he can't get the Republicans, Independents have no interest. He has the kool-ade drinkers, those that must...there are just not enough of you no matter how large you type or how screechie you get.

        I'm a 35 year solid Democrat, I will vote McCain.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/13/2008 3:59:21 PM

          Obama wins and McCain retires right after. Good! Tell me, do you think McCain ever thinks about his first wife, the one who was disfigured and crippled in an auto accident? He cheated on her while she was recuperating from the accident and not too long after, he left her and then divorced her for a rich, healthy younger woman. McCain is a phony. He has no good character.

          • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/13/2008 5:21:29 PM

            What happened to when you said you respect McCain and all that he has done? What happened to a couple weeks back when you were thinking of supporting McCain?

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/13/2008 6:19:07 PM

              Hello Z. I said I respected and admired McCain for being a war hero, and I still do. But what happened to have made me this way, is that I recently learned of how he treated his first wife. He cheated on her because of her disability! Then he abandoned her because she was disfigured and crippled! He took up with a rich, healthy younger woman! How can anyone support a man that does that to a poor helpless woman? Please, tell me how!

              • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/13/2008 7:08:42 PM

                Easy because I don't care what he does in his marriage. I'm not marrying him, I'm voting for him to run the country. No politician is perfect, I know you'd agree. To me McCain positives outweigh his negatives by far, especially considering the alternatives. If HRC were the Dem nominee, I'd be whole heartedly behind her. But she isn't, so I'm not. And how do you know she left JUST BECAUSE she was crippled? Are you a mind reader? Do you know what's going on in every politician's mind all the time? Besides McCain has owned up to it in his book. He admits his mistake and take FULL responsibility for it. Far cry from Bush wouldn't you say? That's why I admire him, he knows he is a flawed person but tried to do the best he can. Isn't that your whole argument on why your voting for Obama? Or do you think he is perfect?
                Oh and here is a quote from his first wife Carol, "He's a good guy," she assured us. "We are still good friends. He is the best man for President."

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/14/2008 12:04:09 PM

                  Z, you question me but you believe the quote from Carol. very intersesting. No man who abandons his crippled wife and three kids for another woman is considered "a good guy'. Not at all. For weeks you and others here did nothing but post about Wright and how Obama has no good character. Now you defend McCain. What's worse to you? A Wright or a man who abandoned his cripples wife and children for a rich woman?How ironic now that the shoe is on the other foot and the hero is not the hero I believed him to be.

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/13/2008 3:50:43 AM

          You are definitely (at least right now) after all the Hillary supporters that were going to migrate have to his side that will be voting for McCain or staying at home and not voting There is the option (maybe) that Hillary supporters will be able to vote for Hillary, but I have a feeling that voting for McCain may also be an alternate route to go to send a message to the DNC and the likes of Pelosi, John Dean, et al as well as the MainstreamMedia.

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/13/2008 3:55:15 AM

            PRO-HILLARY website launched. Anyone who would like to sign the pledge (reiterated below and on the site), here is the link to the site: http://www.together4us.com/


            THE PLEDGE OF TOGETHERNESS: SPREAD THE WORD!

            We stand together with her 18 million voters in pursuit of all of the following:

            Bring us together by honoring Hillary Clinton and her supporters at the Democratic National Convention in Denver by:

            Placing her name into nomination (following traditional protocol)

            Ensuring a roll-call vote

            Inviting her to speak, during prime-time, on August 26th, the 88th anniversary of Women's Suffrage

            Bring us together by adoption of policies on the Platform Committee that Hillary Clinton has championed.

            Bring us together through reform of the primary and caucus system to reflect the basic principle of one person - one vote.

            Bring us together through outspoken denunciation of all gender bias, racism and other forms of discrimination.

            Bring us together by making a concerted effort to retire her campaign debt.

            We are being asked to embrace Party Unity without the fair representation of Hillary Clinton and her 18 million voters. Party Unity requires bilateral action. We ask Barack Obama and the DNC to respond.


            HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS will never forget the mean-spirited and sexist-based dialogue the MainStreamMedia news reporters and political pundits spewed 24/7 about Hillary from the time she entered into the Presidential race right up through the very last primary. No future female Presidential candidate should ever be treated in this despicable manner again. This video provides a barrage of clips on what she put up with in the media:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/13/2008 3:53:30 AM

            Omaar, pls. explain why you state that McCain is finished? He was the one who went against Bush to push the surge effort which has abviously worked and has taken a course to re-evaluate the pullout of troops or reassignment of some troops to Afghanstan where the US should refocus some efforts millitary wise along with any other UN countries that we might need to focus on this area now which needs attention.

    • Posted By: KenTpa @ 07/12/2008 5:57:16 PM

      I'll take Obama's experience over the current White House occupant's any day of the week..bucco

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/12/2008 6:05:40 PM

        It's a good thing Bush isn't running then isn't it. I'll take McCain experience and proven Judgment over Obama's lack of judgment anyday.

        • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/12/2008 7:19:03 PM

          Yeah judgment like voting NO for the NEW GI BILL, Hey Mr. McCain who are we suposed to be killing in Iraq, sunni or shia? What's a Kurd? And even though the US weapons inspectors said there were NO weapons, expolsives, or ammunition from Iran, and the latest NIE said Iran had backed away from uranium enrichment...why are you deterimined to take this country into another, a third war? Is it because of your "experience" and "Judgment"?

          • Posted By: Pansycritter @ 07/12/2008 8:20:21 PM

            Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn....and Obama's record says what????? Oh yeah,

            "LEAVE OBAMA ALONE!!!!!!!!"

            Not until I see him lose. I will never support him, I will not support the DNC, I won't even give a buck to the local Dems. Not until I see Obama lose.

            • Posted By: wayale @ 07/12/2008 11:55:56 PM

              pansycritter, I implore you, do some research. I would think your quote would be more apt for John McCain, given that he's recently blanked on questions, on the economy, whether it's right that insurance covers viagra and not birth control, etc. unfortunately, the msm seems to be leaving him alone whenever he falters.

              • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/13/2008 9:36:51 AM

                That's the perils of the MSM having 24 hour coverage on anything Obama, he sells ads not McCain.

          • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/13/2008 9:29:15 AM

            Don't forget Obama terrific judgment on FISA, then there is Rev. Wright, Rezko, Inserting the Poison Pill in last years Immigration Bill.....

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/12/2008 6:13:16 PM

        ROGER THAT!

        McTaint is tainted by Bush. Doesn't matter about his so-called "experience" - he's a war monger and war is the experience he mostly knows. Actually, being torturned in captivity was mostly what he became known for. Oh sure, he's got years in the Senate. Too bad all you Republican idiots didn't nominate him instead of BUsh Jr. 8 years ago. McCain certainly deserved better than Bush gave him. Now he's the one drinking the BUSH KOOAID, probably for fear of his life.... certainly his livelihood. He's too old now.

        Way too old.

        • Posted By: Pansycritter @ 07/12/2008 6:54:30 PM

          So cute, typical Obama supporter. Nasty, snarky, borish, and of low intelligence. They tend to think Obama is smart and often times believe they see a "glow" around him. They will soon see his image on toast and blankets which they will sell on ebay to each other.

          • Posted By: raddave @ 07/12/2008 7:04:20 PM

            No one thinks Obama is the Messiah

            • Posted By: Pansycritter @ 07/12/2008 7:12:28 PM

              Ha, yet that single thing which I did not state was your main concern.

              • Posted By: raddave @ 07/12/2008 7:38:14 PM

                you did imply it though. seeing a glow around him, and seeing his image on toast, just like you nut jobs claim to see the image of Jesus on toast or on trees and things like that. Besides, if Obama is a Muslim, how could he be the Messiah.

                • Posted By: Pansycritter @ 07/12/2008 8:07:30 PM

                  Dear child, I imply nothing and I have no religion. But this is not about me its about you and your choice you forced on us. You screeched, name-called, and belittled. Now your boy, your chosen one, the face on your toast if failing you and us. You must support him, you have no choice. I do have a choice and it does not include Obama.

                  • Posted By: wayale @ 07/12/2008 11:51:10 PM

                    what's with the condescending "my child", etc? The choice we 'forced' upon you? How about the choice of over 16 millions of Americans. Just because the majority wins doesn't mean the minority isn't given a voice. As long as you're voting for McCain because you honestly believe in his policy and his ability to execute his policy, then that's fine with me. But if you're out to 'get' Obama for being perceived to be rude in all sorts of ways, then I just think you're wrong (oh, and you did make that implication - "a glow" and "image on toast"? come on). furthermore, I don't think you can win any argument by insulting someone's intelligence - someone you don't even know. it degrades your position (now, see, I didn't attack your personal intelligence, manners, or anything other than what I think to be reasonable criticism).

    • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/12/2008 6:02:52 PM

      WHAT PEOPLE ARE FINDING FUNNY AND A LITTLE SCARY IS A NOMINEE(MCCAIN) EMBRACING MORE AND MORE OF THE POLICIES OF A PRESIDENT(BUSH) WHO WILL GO DOWN AS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. HE IS LITERALLY SABOTGING HIMSELF.........I'M KINDA ENJOYING IT.......

      • Posted By: Pansycritter @ 07/12/2008 8:01:36 PM

        No silly, what people are finding funny is the onionheads think they are running against George Bush. Where do they get that idea? Sorry sweetie, I've already left the Bushie's in the dust. I'm looking to the future and guess what? Obama is not it.

        • Posted By: nobushfan @ 07/13/2008 12:04:08 AM

          Neither is that major peice of toxic waste, McStupid!!

  • Posted By: doremusjessup @ 07/14/2008 10:52:13 AM

    So this is where the election fraud begins, right now, in the polls. They polls are being rigged to conform to the planned election fix in November. If the polls show a close race the elections is easier to fix. To verify all this look at all the polls across the country and you will see large discrepancies among them. They can't fix all the polls. Wake up folks, it's just too easy to fix an election.....or a poll.

    • Posted By: IELeibowitz @ 07/14/2008 11:54:45 AM

      Poll rigging? Election fixing? Good grief, doremusjessup, will you be fretting about Roswell, the JFK assassination, and the Illuminati next? Never mind that discrepancies in polls can be explained simply errors in polling or by differences in methodologies, such as sample sizes, sample diversity, whether the person is a likely or even a registered voter, and dates of the polls. Also, never mind big leads in the polls are hard to sustain for long, that candidates shift or articulate positions that affect their popularity, or that people tend to tune out from political races in the middle of the summer. Who needs common sense real-life explanations such as these when conspiracy fantasies can conveniently explain away any outcome other than the one that results in an advantage to or victory for your candidate?

  • Posted By: Catman1998 @ 07/14/2008 11:24:53 AM

    Change change change, hope hope hope. I don't know about you, but my life is going quite well and I don't thing I need any major changes right now.
    I can suggest one change right now that I would like to see, and that would be a legitimate 3rd party choice. The extremes have gained solid control over both parties, although somewhat less so on the republican side. What we have now is the Marxist party, (Democrats) the Facist party, (Republicans) and an electorate who by an overwhelming margin can't tell you the difference between a Marxist and a Facist.

  • Posted By: doremusjessup @ 07/14/2008 10:47:47 AM

    So this is where election fraud begins. The polls are already being rigged to conform to the plan to fix the election for McCain. Wake up folks!

  • Posted By: Pepsiholic @ 07/14/2008 10:07:42 AM

    From his own book... Obama got in trouble for making faces in the class where he was learning to memorize the Koran. Wouldn't Obama's father had him listed as a Muslim on the Birth Certificate? Is that why Omama's Birth Certificate on his web-site is a fake?

  • Posted By: redsticker @ 07/14/2008 10:02:27 AM

    The correct question is "WERE YOU EVER A MUSLIM?" For some reason our communist press refuses to ask this question. Maybe its because Obama would be under a death sentence for turning cristian under Islamic law.. He did go to a Wahabe school.

  • Posted By: Al Bundy @ 07/14/2008 9:50:06 AM


    The article is another attempt to explain away why most Americans aren???t as enamored by Obama as the mainstream liberal media is. The earlier polls were obviously meaningless. The fact is that there was blanket coverage of the Democratic primary contest while McCain was largely in the shadows. Now that McCain is back in the spotlight his poll ratings are rising.

    Moreover as Obama???s record comes under scrutiny it is apparent that Obama is a conventional big-government liberal. His recent repositioning toward the center is perceived by most Americans as a highly cynical attempt to garner votes. It is the old politics. That is a problem if you are presenting yourself as an agent of change.

    The problem is that the liberal media always underestimates the intelligence of the silent majority of the American people.

    The polls are still actually overstating Obama???s strength. Many Americans will tell pollsters that that they will vote for Obama for fear of seeming politically incorrect.

    You won???t read any of that in Newsweek.

  • Posted By: Al Bundy @ 07/14/2008 9:48:05 AM

    The article is another attempt to explain away why most Americans aren???t as enamored with Obama as the mainstream liberal media.

    The earlier polls were obviously meaningless. The fact is that there was blanket coverage of the Democratic primary contest while McCain was largely in the shadows. Now that McCain is back in the spotlight his poll ratings are rising.

    Moreover as Obama???s record comes under scrutiny it is apparent that Obama is a conventional big-government liberal. His recent repositioning toward the center is perceived by most Americans as a highly cynical attempt to garner votes. It is the old politics. That is a problem if you are presenting yourself as an agent of change.

    The problem is that the liberal media always underestimates the intelligence of the silent majority of the American people.

    The polls are still actually overstating Obama???s strength. Many Americans will tell pollsters that that they will vote for Obama for fear of seeming politically incorrect. This is the real margin of error in the polls.

    You won???t read any of that in Newsweek.

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