Obama’s No-Brainer on Education

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  • Posted By: tallredteacher @ 09/04/2008 6:43:13 PM

    Our school system is moving toward a business model, providing accountability for process and product in the classroom. While it is tedious and time consuming at times, it does focus the classroom teacher on what measurable difference is being made by our application of curriculum and methodology.
    But one factor is still missing in the equation, no matter what changes we make in the schools and the classrooms. The parents have to be held accountable for the behavior and performance of their students before real, measurable success can take place. If we have no buy in from the parent we rarely get buy in from the student.
    I have lived in Europe, and my children have attended European schools. The family knows from the first day in preschool that their child's behavior and performance will determine their future. They DO NOT see the educational system as a right, they recognize it as a priviledge, and treat it as such. Teachers are held in high esteem and their reports and input to the family hold their weight because teachers are looked upon as trained professionals. When the school has to buckle on standards and put up with destructive and disruptive behavior because parents might sue, we lose the power in the classroom to be effective and constructive.
    America as a whole has to change their perspective on what a free, appropriate public education is before we can make progress toward excellence. Standards for ALL of us, teachers, administrators, parents and students, need to be defined and enforced without exception.
    13 years in this business has taught me one thing. I can and do make a difference with my students every day. Almost all of them show measurable academic progress. Some of them soar. And some find that they are valuable in the eyes of at least one person in their life. It can't be measured, but I know it's there, from the look in their eyes to the enthusiatic hugs and thank you's I receive when I run into former students "in the real world." That's the greatest reward I will every receive from teaching.
    If I wanted to be rich, I would have been a lawyer!

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  • Posted By: c.noonan @ 07/31/2008 6:34:13 PM

    Mr. Alter says hostility to measuring results of student performance and to reform of job security is the teachers??? unions??? fault, leading to weak public schools.
    Untrue. In actual fact, state education departments played a large part in identifying the vague NCLB requirements that each state put into practice. In California, tables are presented each year in the summer after Spring testing, and comparison proceeds. District with district, school with school in the district and in the state, proficiency for each grade, proficiency levels for each teacher???s class, and individual student scores. Surely, in California, teachers are accountable. Not taken into account are the obstacles low-performing schools must move aside before students reach proficiency. That???s why teachers feel anxious.
    Three steps are needed to ensure student success in the public schools, requiring the constant effort of the entire school community. First, NCLB requirements need to be funded, including higher salaries, enough teachers to address the difficulties for students, support staff like counselors to address transiency and attendance. State education budgets and federal education monies must be stabilized. Student success can???t be provided on the cheap.
    Second, schools and school districts must provide a consistent curriculum, especially for young children, taught with effective strategies. Although teachers have different styles, the structure of the day and the techniques they use can make nearly every teacher highly qualified to teach state academic standards (another requirement of NCLB). Then the school district must spend money to make sure the curriculum, whichever one is chosen, is used consistently and fully.
    Third, each school district and school must provide support for teachers to work together, communicating with each other and with parents, with student success the goal. Professional development to learn how to read assessment data and make decisions for student, teacher, and school improvement is the key to accountability.
    Last, Mr. Alter dismisses ???the tyranny of tests,??? but standards, teacher preparation, and evaluation reflect the current student assessments, one test that drags on for days and labels students for a year. A testing reformation is a worthy task for the national and state departments of education.

  • Posted By: dlight @ 07/29/2008 8:30:17 AM

    "Education was free...the essence of American opportunity, the treasure that no thief could touch, not even misfortune or poverty;...surer, safer than bread or shelter...no questions asked, no fees---the doors stood open for everyone of us."
    ---Mary Antin from THE PROMISED LAND

  • Posted By: gingy @ 07/27/2008 11:04:50 PM

    It is incredible that most of the "experts " in the media concerning education ,have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.Where did this gentleman go to high school?Phillips Academy Andover-do you think he has any clue whatsoever about Public Education?Talk to someone in the trenches-get the real story ,if you are prepared to handle it.

  • Posted By: everyonesfacts @ 07/24/2008 11:08:25 PM

    This was already covered in the excellent report, Teachers and the Uncertain American Future.
    See here for the report:
    http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/press/teachers-and-uncertain-american-future.pdf
    And here for commentary on it, many by yours truly;
    http://www.ednews.org/community/showthread.php?t=38

  • Posted By: jmcarter @ 07/15/2008 11:53:46 PM

    I have a rare job in an urban, underperforming school district: I am the only one in a District with 35,000 kids assigned to monitor teacher performance and assist principals and administrators in dismissing poor performing teachers. I have so many examples of your comment that teachers unions believe that protecting incompetents is more important than educating children. The lawyers who represent these teachers, once my friends, consider themselves akin to criminal defense lawyers, and their clients as individuals who deserve a defense, no matter what.

    I have one case now where a teacher who was arrested with possession of methamphetamines, was allowed to remain a teacher after going through "treatment" and signed an agreement that she would resign if she tested positive for drugs. She then tested positive (twice) for meth, has refused to resign, is being actively represented by lawyers paid for by the teachers union, and is costing the District tens of thousands of dollars to seek her dismissal. Can you imagine the liability if the District rolled over???

    Another teacher received $50,000 of peer assistance last year, and her own peers refused to pass her out of the program as having satisfactorily met her own teaching goals. She, too, is insisting on AND RECEIVING a scorched earth defense from the union and its lawyers. These are 2 of several examples just this year. And yes, you're correct, we may succeed in dismissing 5-10 of 3000 teachers this year. We know there are more poor performing teachers out there, but we can only afford to go after the worst of the worst each year because the teachers union insist on aggresssively fighting to keep these teachers in their jobs, in the face of powerful evidence that these teachers actually do harm to the students they are assigned to teach.

    I have always considered myself a good leftist, and I come from a family of (good) teachers, but if keeping my progressive credentials requires being unquestionably pro-teachers union, I'd happily give up those credentials. I hope Obama can have the courage to stand up and talk about what's right for kids, and recognize that it's not always what the teachers union prescribes. Thanks.

    • Posted By: everyonesfacts @ 07/24/2008 11:02:29 PM

      The story you tell of a teacher being represented by union lawyers is doubtful (not saying it isn't true).
      The unions will generally pay you back for your law fees up to $100,000 and will represent you
      only if the other side is obviously in the wrong. Confirmed drug use does not seem a likely cause
      for the union to waste their lawyers on.

    • Posted By: afife @ 07/18/2008 7:50:14 PM

      What about the administrators and superintendents that are doing a bad job and have to be let go by the school board before their contracts expire, because of intense pressure from the parents. How big is their severance package?? In my small city we've had two superintendents let go under intense pressure (2 different school systems) in the last 5 years. The amount of severance money was shocking. Yet, they are not part of a union. In those same school systems we have schools with leaking roofs and massive teacher turnover. That money could have gone to fix more important problems. Unfair legal action is not confined to inside a teacher union.

  • Posted By: jrsposter @ 07/24/2008 5:31:01 PM

    Jonathan,
    Thank you for your correction from the print edition of Newsweek, in which you erroneously stated that Barack Obama was booed for mentioning charter schools, when the truth is that a few isolated delegates booed, as you have now corrected, when he said he supported merit pay. . Next time, please check your facts before publishing.

    However, you made several other errors in your piece which you should now correct. The worst one was your statement that teachers' unions care only about protecting the incompetent. I invite you to investigate the Peer Assistance and Review program in the Montgomery County Public Schools, a program in which the union participates in decisions when allegations of teacher incompetence are made and helps to determine whether those allegations are accurate and whether some employees should be terminated. Does that sound like the "iron-clad job security" against which you rail?

    The KIPP schools which you tout get their results with some strategies you haven't mentioned. They require teachers to work 15 to 16 hours a day and to be on call by telephone all evening for students' questions. How many young people do you think will sign up for that regimen, even at higher salaries than are paid today?

    Furthermore, the KIPP schools have a policy of forcing out students who are not performing by telling them they will not be promoted to the next grade in which tests will be given. What most students do under those circumstances is to return to the public schools where they will be promoted. Yes, adverse selection works in this realm just the same as it does in the "business world" which you tout, although more and more lately it stands exposed as both greedy and corrupt.

    Finally, you warn that teacher unions will just die off as they have in DC and New Orleans because those cities are reform-minded. The New Orleans' teachers union was swept away, as was much of the city, by Hurricane Katrina. With nothing in place, federal education officials jumped at the opportunity to use public funds to fund non-public schools as well as charter schools. (Don't forget that non-public schools never take the tests which are part of NCLB.)

    The jury is still out on Michelle Rhee's "reform" package, but I suspect that it is so one-sided in favor of unilateral action and in opposition to due process dismissal that the DC public school system will soon find itself without enough teachers to staff its classrooms. I would never apply to a school district in which every year would be like professional Russian roulette, and I don't think many other people will either.

  • Posted By: mike23 @ 07/21/2008 10:39:57 PM

    Jonathan,

    Do you have evidence that schools without unions do better? Please share.

  • Posted By: carminejd @ 07/13/2008 9:02:23 AM

    I have been a college professor for over 25 years, my worst students, consistently, have been social work students and education students, particularly elementary ed and early childhood ed. Yes something must be done to change the quality of the students accepted into Schools of education and schools of social work. This is a consequence of the lock unions have on determining what amounts to a qualified teacher. Doubt it? Then why can't a governor teach a public high school class in history without a union teach present in the room?

    • Posted By: docwash @ 07/21/2008 1:57:22 PM

      Enter Your CommentDear carminjd,
      In the state where I teach, no visitor may address a class without a certified teacher present, union member or not. Besides ensuring that the teacher has the pedagogical credentials to be in front of a class, certification also means that the individual has undergone a background check and been fingerprinted. Although the governor may have undergone the same, the rule is the same for any visitor, even though he or she may be an expert in his or her field. The teacher prepares the students for the visit, maintains classroom discipline and takes attendance while the visitor is making his presentation, and follows up on what was taught in subsequent lessons. Both the school district and the union agree that visitors to schools should be screened and monitored for the safety of students and staff. Isn't that the way it works in your college?

    • Posted By: tkjer @ 07/13/2008 11:49:50 AM

      It depends on what qualifications a governor has to teach. Standards are not set by unions. Teacher accreditation is established by state school boards that generally follow nationally based standards.

      • Posted By: carminejd @ 07/14/2008 12:18:23 AM

        But that same "public-school unqualified" governor would be welcomed to teach in a charter school or a private school, since both of those sorts of schools are able to hire non-union teachers who are competent and fire those who are not..

        • Posted By: bluenv @ 07/15/2008 11:03:04 PM

          Non-union does not necessarily equal competent or more qualified. I am a public school teacher who has done workshops in parochial and private schools and have found that many private/parochial school lay teachers (1) choose to teach in this system primarily because they do not have to get the same certification (generally, more college courses specific to teaching and the subject matter); (2) they don't want to be in a school setting that takes all comers (that is, they are protected from their own problems with classroom management because disruptive students can and will be removed); (3) they see teaching as a nice hobby, sort of like selling real estate or starting an interior decorating business. Of course there are outstanding teachers in all schools--and some real clunkers, too. But portraying "non-union teachers" as the saviors of the educational system is folly. (This writer is a college professor? Holy cow--does she or he read? research? think? We are indeed in trouble in higher education as well, then.)

  • Posted By: Texan99 @ 07/13/2008 9:45:20 AM

    Alter is right on target. The number one culprit in the U.S. education system is the teachers' unions. They're prey to the dangers of many unions, which is the mindless support of mediocrity in the name of job security. What's worse, though, is that they don't go under when they succeed in undermine the business they work for, so the usual self-correcting factor is absent. The business is the public schools, and they just gradually become worse. Meanwhile, the public is unhappy, but slowly forgets what real schools used to be like, back when we all just assumed that any reasonably competent school could produce students who could read, write, and do basic arithmetic.

    The quickest road to recovery for the public schools, besides vouchers, would be to extirpate the teachers' unions and eliminate the credentialing monopoly of the education colleges.

    Re some of the outraged comments: How in the world did we come to the idea that "tests" were an invalid gauge of how much students have learned? It goes a long way to show the desperation of the unions to defend and perpetuate their failure that they now identify "testing" as the real culprit.

    • Posted By: docwash @ 07/21/2008 1:35:56 PM

      Dear Texas99,
      Teachers are not against using tests to evaluate students. We are against using tests to evaluate teachers which, if you think about it, makes about as much sense as using patients' X-rays to evaluate doctors. As for the dangers of unions, compare educational standards in right-to-work (for less) states like Mississippi and Alabama with those in unionized states like California and New York. I rest my case.

    • Posted By: tbclasen @ 07/19/2008 11:06:26 AM

      Please understand that there are more unions involved than just the teachers' unions. Administrators have their unions, too, and there are a LOT of incompetent administrators making the decisions for the schools in which teachers work. And those administrators in my district are making $100,000 on up to the superintendent, who makes several hundred thousand dollars, gets a car and mileage, and doesn't even live in the district.
      Secondly, a test is a SNAPSHOT of a student's learning. One tiny piece. A standardized test does not test some of the most critical parts of learning, including critical thinking skills. That is why a standardized test should only be one PART of the whole picture of the student's learning - and we can only look at the whole thing, not one part. I'm sure you agree that you would like your employer to look at ALL you do, not just one little part on one day. That's not a desperate union talking. That's logic.

    • Posted By: afife @ 07/16/2008 8:23:18 AM

      I am a third generation teacher. My mother and grandmother explained to me what schools used to be like. My grandmother taught in a one-room school house in a farming community. The behavior was so horrendous in that school that she replaced the 3rd teacher that quit that year. Only a small fraction of the super highly motivated kids learned anything. The rest were far too distracted and would prefer to be outside. My mom worked during an era when male teachers were paid much more than the female teachers. She would have to teach 2 grades at the same time in the same room, with well over 30 students total. We lived below the poverty line even though she was working long hours and going to school at night to get her masters degree. Thanks to the teachers union, teachers in Maryland

    • Posted By: Shadow Tracker @ 07/15/2008 10:00:56 PM

      "What schools used to be like" how long ago? When most people were lucky to complete the third grade? Please define your golden age of American education. And also, how about using only paper and pencil tests for brain surgeons and airline pilots if such testing is so darn good. Obviously I am a teacher, so yes my views are biased; however, the business model for education is bogus. The business model, or rather the factory model is the main reason modern schools are so toxic to students and to learning. Using the business model analogy, how about taking all the 35-year-old workers in a company, putting them in the same room to do the same job for 50 minutes, then make them all move to another room to do a different job? Oh, and there is a different supervisor in each room. How successful would that company be? A business cannot function that way, neither can a school. Please do some research on learning and teaching, and even spend some time trying to teach a child some academic skill, especially if the child is tired and hungry and scared to go home. Then you may have something to contribute.

  • Posted By: nowucit @ 07/13/2008 10:35:55 AM

    Education can serve only one master. Before unions, the kids always came first. Now the unions have leap-frogged teachers into first place, and they threaten to sue/strike/do whatever it takes to keep it that way. Education will continue to decline until teachers, who want to be professionals, stop the maddness and realize that their perks/contracts are the problems. Unions protect all teachers, but especially the BAD ones. They do NOT reward the great teachers and have a mission to maintain the status quo/ mediocrity. That suits THEIR interests! The union leader, careful not to poll members when they decide to back political candidates, use dues to buy votes. Quality education is a memory.

    • Posted By: docwash @ 07/21/2008 1:27:39 PM

      Dear nowucit,
      Please do your homework before you publish such misinformation. Read a contract. Look up New York State's Taylor Law, which prohibits strikes by public employees. Check your facts. The ones you need are in the public domain and you have access to a computer.

  • Posted By: mcjaohio @ 07/13/2008 5:50:54 PM

    As a young educator working to improve my school and district I am torn. Teacher unions need to face a hard yet true fact: there are bad teachers that should not be teaching. Many of these individuals have no business in the classroom. Yet, they remain because it is too hard to remove them. Young teachers on the other hand are forced to pay union dues and receive no job protection. This system needs to change. If teachers want to be viewed as professionals then we need to stand for quality in the profession. Merit pay should not be viewed as a threat but as an opportunity to increase productivity. That said, I am tired of reading and hearing the blame game when it comes to teachers. When Alter and others come after teachers and teachers alone I feel my efforts to educate undermined. I don't work for a corporation. I work for a school board. As such the business metaphor is inappropriate. School boards are elected officials (who often know little about education) who respond to voters. They are pressured to keep costs down to keep taxes low. In states like mine (Ohio) districts are not created equal. Many teachers in my district would love to teach longer days and teach in the summer, but who will pay for this? In wealthy districts the financial support may be there, but in economically disadvantaged districts such financial resources do not exist. Furthermore, the media champions charter schools and merit pay but never mentions the effects of high IEP populations and inclusion classrooms. How can one compare my district with a 20% IEP population with a district with 5% IEP population? This is even more pronounced when financial inequity is considered. There are many changes that need to be made in education. Bad teachers need to be identified and dismissed. Yet, other changes need to be made: school board reform, economic equity, and a realization that socio-economic demographics do make a difference. Simply because a school has the best test scores does not mean that school has the best teachers. Yet, merit systems would support such a notion. I wish the media and elected officials would stop blaming teachers and would instead explain how teachers and the society at large can make education better with specifics instead of broad notions of longer days and merit pay.

    • Posted By: christy.krupa@gmail.com @ 07/14/2008 1:26:40 PM

      Your post would be more effective if you would define the jargon you use. I have no idea what IEP means so I can't evaluate your arguments.

      • Posted By: docwash @ 07/21/2008 1:05:11 PM

        An IEP ia an Individualized Education Plan. It is given to students who have a learning disablity such as dyslexia, or who have a physical limitation such as low vision.

  • Posted By: simonanunhappydem @ 07/14/2008 6:52:16 PM

    I am all for keeping older teachers on the job as long as they want to and can teach. However, it is indisputable that the teacher's union's totally wrong attitude about not holding teachers accountable for their work and results is a basic and fundamental flaw in our system. As long as this is not foxed the system will be going down-hill. I had two daughters who went through the system 15-20 years ago in an excellently rated school district in California. Most teachers were good, some were abysmal. My grandkids are going through the system now and it is clear that it got much worse. The only option now is private schools, that are not unionized and are striving for excellence, at least for me.

    • Posted By: docwash @ 07/21/2008 12:40:28 PM

      Before assuming that teachers unions are against holding teachers accountable, read a contract. In New York City, which has the largest local in the American Federation of Teachers, the name of the contract is "AGREEMENT between THE BOARD OF EDUCATION of the City School District of the City of New York and UNITED FEDERATION OF TEACHERS Local 2, American Federation of Teachers, AFL-CIO covering TEACHERS. The operative word is "Agreement." The union does not impose anything on the school system. Working conditions, health and safety, fair practices, salaries, evaluation procedures, and due process are negotiated, as they should be in a democratic society. Furthermore, the union actively supports ongoing teacher training. You don't have to take my word for it. You can read the contract for yourself by visiting the website www.uft.org.

  • Posted By: deliabliss @ 07/15/2008 4:18:40 AM

    The essential educational relationship is that between the student and the teacher. NCLB helps to heighten this essential relationship by supplementing the funds to assist more one on one attention through subsidies for accountable tutoring. Obama's position on NCLB helps to enhance the growth of each students educational attainment.

    • Posted By: docwash @ 07/21/2008 12:16:15 PM

      NCLB is an unfunded mandate.

  • Posted By: dlight @ 07/20/2008 8:24:40 PM

    Dear Jonathan,

    Your article "Obama's No-Brainer on Education" brings up so many important issues--- I want to comment on two of them.

    First, how do we assess teacher competence? I came to teaching after several other careers (medical researcher, video editor, executive director of an arts organization, artist, etc.) and did so in part, because I wanted a career in which I could flex my altruistic muscles with some degree of protection--- I truly enjoy helping others, especially children, and I knew from some of my experiences in the business world that I didn't do well in an "every man for himself" kind of environment. Having taught in a public school in the South Bronx for 5 years and a well-to-do Westchester suburb for 12 years, I know I can be an effective classroom teacher. My students in both the South Bronx and Westchester have done well, often beyond my wildest dreams and I am constantly looking for new ideas, ways to improve my teaching, feedback from my students etc. Yet, I am hard put to know to what I should attribute my success. Clearly, having been well educated is important. The influence of my family has been very important. But, then when you get into the specifics of just exactly what works, what doesn't....it's a bit fuzzier than you describe. Flexibility, creativity, initiative, background knowledge, patience, humility, and combinations thereof---well, the list goes on and on. All of my previous careers, for example, have been instrumental in my work. When I reflect on teachers I've had or know for whom I have tremendous respect, there really is quite a huge range of characteristics that can work. So, I just want to state that it may not be so easy to create a check list for assessing who is and who isn???t a successful teacher???or for how to train new ones.

    The other comment I want to make is that I have a knee jerk reaction to the idea that education can be treated as a business. Over the past several years, our staff has been asked to read and comment on an array of what-works-in-business type books so that we can apply the wisdom found there to our own practice. I am usually mildly hostile towards this idea, along with the trend toward referring to students and parents as "clients" or education as a "product." It's not just that I see education as a haven away from business, which I do, but it's also that I think they are two very different models??? and that they shouldn't be compared. What drives me is the (?)Emma Lazarus quote that education is a gift no one can take away, as well as my firm belief in public education as a basic human right.

    Thanks for your efforts in improving our educational system!

    My best to you and your family,
    Donna (Light-Donovan)

  • Posted By: Amire @ 07/20/2008 12:16:54 PM

    Comment: It appears that Mr. Alter omitted to mention that in regular public school classrooms teachers make a commitment to teach all students regardless of parental support. In the Knowledge Is Power Program parents must sign a contract. Here's what it says at the bottom of this form : "We understand that if all these commitments are not met, our child will receive consequences, including loss of privileges, placement on "The Bench," and possibly even removal from the school. " Parents select to place their children in these schools, which means they are committed to their children's education. If they do not meet their parental responsibilities of looking over their children's homework and bringing them to school on time then they can be removed. Mr. Alter claims this model cannot be duplicated because there are "not enough effective teachers to go around." This is simply not true. Yes our public school education system, including teacher preparation needs to be improved. But, do not make generalizations and comparisons of public school teachers to charter school teachers. Charter schools run like private schools as they can choose to remove any student not meeting their expectations.

  • Posted By: Amire @ 07/20/2008 12:14:36 PM

    Comment: It appears that Mr. Alter omitted to mention that in regular public school classrooms teachers make a commitment to teach all students regardless of parental support. In the Knowledge Is Power Program parents must sign a contract. Here's what it says at the bottom of this form : "We understand that if all these commitments are not met, our child will receive consequences, including loss of privileges, placement on "The Bench," and possibly even removal from the school. " Parents select to place their children in these schools, which means they are committed to their children's education. If they do not meet their parental responsibilities of looking over their children's homework and bringing them to school on time then they can be removed. Mr. Alter claims this model cannot be duplicated because there are "not enough effective teachers to go around." This is simply not true. Yes our public school education system, including teacher preparation needs to be improved. But, do not make generalizations and comparisons of public school teachers to charter school teachers. Charter schools run like private schools as they can choose to remove any student not meeting their expectations.

  • Posted By: madjoe62 @ 07/19/2008 2:43:45 PM

    Apparently, Mr Alter didn't read page 68 (Ms. Quindlinn's piece), of the current issue or he would know why there is a need for teachers' unions. Also, he might have checked with the NEA to find out just how much effort the entire organization puts into improving schools through their suggestions and cooperation with all administrations, be they school or political units.

  • Posted By: gdett41 @ 07/16/2008 11:03:04 AM

    It is at least mildly ironic that Mr. Alter's article and Anna Quindlen's article are published in the same issue. Ms. Quindlen's article certainly exemplifies the reasons why Mr. Alter is so obviously in error.
    gdett41

    • Posted By: mgerk @ 07/19/2008 1:53:40 PM

      I couldn't agree more! When looking at the problems facing public education, Quindlen's essay illustrates who really creates the poor atmosphere for public education and it's not teachers unions.

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