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At Arm’s Length

They used to be close. Kind of. Jesse and Barack's awkward past.

 
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  • Posted By: Thewhitesmiter @ 07/22/2008 12:34:38 PM

    Comment: "generational divide"? What a load of hogwash! All it takes is one look at Africa or the inner city and you
    may understand how black men's power struggles become violent whenever money and power are involved. It's just pathetic that the politically correct press cannot state the truth but instead pretends
    that b-tch-ness is something only women are capable of.

  • Posted By: ICYEYES800 @ 07/19/2008 9:47:27 PM

    Comment: BUSH is and always has been a PRESIDENT with some bA^%S..He's tolerated, and might I say honorably, the bashing of the extreme left, those who wish him ill will....BUT, HISTORY will be much more gracious, because among all his credits..EVERYONE has to admit, we haven't had another terrorist attack..Even though most AMERICANS have a short memory and have put it in their distant past...NEXT time it happens, you may be wishing for George W...If Clinton hadn't been so busy keeping interns on their knees in the Oval office, would have had more time to CLEARLY see that the terrorists kept ramping up thier terrorism...SO, we got a guy who KNOWS...when to fold 'em and when to hold 'em....can't blame him for drawing that line and saying NO MORE OF YOUR BULLL>.....I LOVE GEORGE W, I loved his Dad too.....Men with some spine.

  • Posted By: ICYEYES800 @ 07/19/2008 12:00:26 AM

    Comment: Let's SEE, Imus was FIRED for using the slang infamous "N" word instead of negro...SO, what's the penalty for Jesse? Wasn't he the one who had a burial of the NEGRO word??? Talk about irony...this is black on black crime at it's BEST. I just love the fact that a minority of people are trying to FORCE the MAJORITY of people in this country to speak the way they would like???? FREEDOM OF SPEECH is still for ALL...like it or not...All Americans can say anything they want and always have, always will.....

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/18/2008 3:10:35 PM

    Comment: bottom line.....It's all Whitey's fault.

    NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/16/2008 7:59:05 PM

    Comment: The quieter McCain is, the noisier Obama gets. Excellent strategy. We don't get in trouble for what we don't say, but for what we do say wrong. Sooner or later Obama will put his foot so deep down his throat that even his adoring press will have to cover it.

    In the mean time, I will just sit and watch.
    NOBAMA NO HUSSEIN

    • Posted By: josemarti @ 07/17/2008 12:40:38

      Comment: Good observation. McCain will have to be careful not to get provoked by Obama (specially during the debates). We have seen repeatedly (Reverend Jackson, President Clinton, Rep. Ferraro) that Obama can trigger a lot of rage. McCain should approach Obama the way Ronald Regan would have. Can you imagine Reagan in a debate with Obama? One carefull calculated facial expression from Reagan and the election would have been over.

      • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/17/2008 12:45:53

        Comment: Obama would have looked like an inexperienced snot-nosed kid on a stage with Reagan. We sure could use another Ronald Reagan right about now (and I don't mean Ron Reagan).

        • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/17/2008 21:28:34

          Comment: YOUR HOPING-I LIKE HOW THE RIGHT TRIES TO JEDI MIND TRICK PEOPLE INTO THINKING REAGAN WAS AGOOD PRESIDENT-HE DESTROYED THE MIDDLE CLASS. YOU GUYS SPEAK AS IF REAGAN IS FA SUPERIOR INTELLECTUALLY THAN OBAMA-READ UP. YOU MAY CHANGE YOUR MIND AND OOOPS..................I RECALL IN 1980 PEOPLE CALLING REAGAN AN EMPTY SUIT WHAT JUST GOOD ORATORY SKILLS...HMMMMMMMM

          • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/17/2008 22:45:01

            Comment: So the worst you can say about Reagan are memories of things other people said prior to him being president? If that's the best you've got I would say his legacy is pretty safe.

            Seen any airports, bridges, or aircraft carriers named after democrat "empty suits?"

            • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/17/2008 22:57:34

              Comment: ACTUALLY I CAN SAY A MILLION THINGS ABOUT HIM SUCH AS IRAN CONTRA, THE ALMOST COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF THE MIDDLE CLASS, TRICKLEDOWN THEORY THAT BUSH'S FATHER CALLED VODOO ECONOMICS, REAGENOMICS, THE FACT HE HID AIDS AND HE HID HIS OWN DISEASE(ALZIEHMER'S) DURING HIS SECOND TERM, SAID HE WOULD SHRINK GOVERNEMTN AND DID IT BY HALF OF A PERCENT, STAR WARS.......ETC. ALSO, SADDAM HUESSEIN HAD THINGS NAMED AFTER HIM IN MICHIGAN.....GETTING THINGS NAMED AFTER YOU MEANS NOTHING. ONLY REPUBLICANS WHO WERE IGNORANT ENOUGH TO VOTE FOR BUSH IN 2004 THINK REAGAN WAS A GOOD PRESIDENT. THE EMPTY SUIT AND GOOD ORATORY SKILLS IS JUST THE THROWBACK IN YOU GUYS LAPS FOR SAYING THE SAME THING ABOUT OBAMA THAT WAS BEING SAID ABOUT REAGAN.

              • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/17/2008 23:28:28

                Comment: Sheesh, you libs sure do hold a grudge. So which liberal president in the last 40 years are you more proud of? The peanut farmer that allowed hostages to remain captured for over a year (until the first day that the guy you hated moved into the white house)... or the other democrat that got impeached and disbarred? I know it's not much to choose from, but it's all you got.

                • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/18/2008 07:15:56

                  Comment: YOU ASKED FOR IT............HOLDING A GRUDGE?! THIS MAN ALMOST DESTROYED THE BACKBONE OF AMERICA WITH HIS VODOO ECONOMICS. YES-GIVE ME THE GUY WHO GOT IMP[EACHED OVER LYING ABOUT CONSENUAL SEX WITH AN ADULT-ALSO BY THE WAY-THE BACKBONE(MIDDLECLASS) NEVER DID BETTER. BY THE WAY-HE'S A FREAKIN RHODES SCHOLAR WHO GOT US A RECORD SURPLUS, RECORD JOBS, RECORD WEALTH-WHO ARE YOU PROUD OF? THE GUY RIGHT NOW WHO WILL GO DOWN AS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY OVER CARTER AND BOTH IMPEACHED PRESIDENTS?

                  • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/18/2008 08:15:55

                    Comment: Ironically, as time goes by Bush will be seen as the president that responded with a counterattack to America's first large terrorist event on our own soil. The rest of what he did will become a blur in time since economics tend to separate from their presidents over the years. And that is why Clinton will only be remembered as the guy that got impeached... and maybe for the stain on a blue dress, but I doubt that will make it to the books in 50 years.

                    I'm not saying I think that's the way it should be, but I bet I am right. I have not been thrilled with Bush, but until the democrats start putting up better alternatives (Gore? Kerry? Obama? Are you guys serious?) I will continue to vote for the representatives of the party that still respects the basic values of America.

                    Look for Obama to go the same way Kerry did in the final weeks of the election. He is starting to give off that same Thurston Howell III vibe that killed Kerry. You guys need another BIll Clinton, but with his pants up. Good luck with that.

                    Also, you have an odd memory of the Reagan years, but that just proves what I just said about people separating presidents from their economies. Reagan walked into the white house with 19% mortgage rates and runaway inflation. His "voodoo economics" are what got our economy back on track. Go look it up. Clinton enjoyed some good years in spite of his first term where his approval was about 24%, but he threw is all away because of weak loins. I guess that whole Rhodes Scholar thing doesn't address morality.




                    • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/18/2008 23:28:01

                      Comment: YOU ACTUALLY THINK THAT HISTORY WILL BE FOND OF AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT THAT INVADED THE WRONG COUNTRY THAT LEFT THE MASTERMIND OF THE ATTACK STILL ALIVE(OSAMA BIN LADEN)? YOU DON'T THINK THAT WHEN PEOEPLE ASK WHY WAS CLINTON IMPEACHED, UNFAIR PARTISANSHIP WON'T COME UP WHEN THE PROFESSOR SAYS "HE LIED UNDER OATH ABOUT CONSESUAL SEX WITH AN ADULT."- ARE YOU SERIOUS?! WE JUST HAD THE BLOODIEST MONTH IN AFGHANASTAN EVER BECUASE BUSH HAD A BLIND THIRST FOR IRAQ.................SERIOUSLY.............YOU REALLY THINK BUSH IS GOING TO GO DOWN AS A GOOD PRESIDENT-I WILL TAKE THAT BET EVERYDAY, ANYDAY, ANYWAY.
                      YOU NAME KERRY, GORE AND OBAMA HAS NOT SERIOUS CANDIDATES BUT GEORGE BUSH IS ONE? THAT'S COMEDY- HE WILL GO DOWN AS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY- I CAN'T THINK OF ONE DAMN THINK HE HAS DONE WELL......................YOU CAN'T DO AS BAD AS BUSH ON PURPOSE-IT WOULD BE HILARIOUS IF LIVES AND TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS WEREN'T AT STAKE

                      • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/19/2008 09:43:56

                        Comment: Please relax, you are going to blow a vessel or something. I didn't say I liked it, but I do believe it. History forgets the details and I can prove it. John F. Kennedy will forever be beloved but he is the guy that put is in Viet Nam, which is the most similar case to Iraq in American history... we all forget that but it's the truth.

                        Without googling can you tell me who the other impeached president was and why he got impeached? It was even more lame than Clinton's impeachment. Maybe you can, but most people can't . They just remember that he made his mark by getting impeached.. fair or not, that's how history works. By the way, it was Andrew Johnson and he got impeached just after the civil war for having attitude problems involving the confederacy. Go ahead and pretend you knew that if you want, but very few Americans would know it without looking it up. As for Clinton, 50 years from now nobody will ask "why" he got impeached, his footnote will just be "that" he was impeached. History remembers the big stuff, not the details.

                        Bush will be remembered for addressing 9/11 but decades from now people will remember more about who ends the war (depending on HOW it ends) than who started it. Again, that's how history works. You don't have to like it, but life has patterns and this is one of them. You can rant and rave until your caps lock button breaks, but you can't stop how history is recorded.... nobody can remember everything.

                        • Posted By: onepoker @ 07/19/2008 13:51:02

                          Comment: Floridadave, I think you have a very good point. But also people reading back on the history will not have the context people today have. Many historians will probably look at the sum of Katrina, 911, two wars and come to the conclusion that Bush was unfairly blamed for a bad economy that resulted from major events. They may also see that his proactive stances helped stem the negative effects far sooner than they would have gone away if left alone.

                          We have lost 4000 people this is tragic for America but it is no where near the losses of most wars. Our enemy has suffered far greater losses and our president has the safety of our troops as a top priority. History will be written by Liberal historians and they will paint Bush in their own light but when the facts are seperated out by future generations he probably will come out ok.

  • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 07/16/2008 6:40:17 PM

    Comment: LIKEITIS,

    RE: Your post from below (07/16/2008 14:28:00)

    Comment: FIRST, I AM VOTING FOR OBAMA.............BUT..............THE GUY WHO CAME UP W/ THE PIN WAS A PLANT, JUST LIKE THE GUY WHO HELD UP THE SIGN "IRON MY SHIRTS" FOR HILLARY WAS A PLANT ALSO!

    MY COMMENT/RESPONSE:

    This is probably the ONE AND ONLY TIME that you and I will agree on anything. I too believe that a lot of the stuff that happens on the daily campaign trail (surrogate gaffes, etc) is strategically planned by the campaign advisors on both sides.

    It all boils down to who (which team) can play the game best.

    In fact, I wouldn't doubt that Jesse's latest "oops" wasn't a planned thing too. The title of this article says it all:

    At Arm's Length

    Jesse's latest gaffe allows BO to distance himself from the Rev., which of course he needs to do to have any real chance of becoming Prez. One thing BO's camp does well:

    Throwing people under the bus! IT'S ALL STRATEGIC OF COURSE!!

    Well, this kid ain't buying it. Keep the Hippy Bus rollin' Driver ... there's more road kill out there. LMFAO!

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/17/2008 17:05:53

      Comment: Remember Obamas Water-Bottle-Gate with Obama fans fainting at random ralleys that took place in our 57 states? LOL

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dySlhGY6Zyo&feature=related

      • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/17/2008 20:00:29

        Comment: McCain will win and here is why. As the election grows closer, so will the statistical difference between Obama and McCain. They will probably end up within about 3 points of each other, but at least 4% will go to alternative candidates, mainly Ralph Nader. Since those votes will be for "change," Nader votes will be votes that would have gone to Obama, not McCain.

        So in about 4 months, democrats need to brace themselves for the same feeling republicans had when Perot bumped Clinton into the white house.... twice. History repeats itself, but at the same time the pendulum always swings back.

        Obama will probably be president some day, but that day is 8 to 12 years away.

        That's the way it is. Don't shoot the messenger, I am just here to report the truth.

  • Posted By: Chloe123 @ 07/16/2008 3:48:41 PM

    Comment: Fruitless though his efforts were, Obama devoted more than 100 pages to his experiences at Altgeld Gardens and surrounding areas. Michelle Obama has said his work as a community organizer helped him decide ???how he would impact the world,??? assisting people to improve their lives. Yet, in a revealing passage in his book, Obama wrote, ???When classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, I couldn???t answer them directly.???

    Thus, Obama admitted that he accomplished little but that he was able to cover that up with fancy talk about change.
    Contrary to Obama???s portrayal of himself as a unifier, on every bipartisan effort in the Senate to forge compromises on tough issues, Obama has been missing in action.

    In sum, it would be difficult to imagine a more mediocre record. Most candidates for dog catcher have contributed more to society. Yet with the help of adoring reporters, Obama has managed to parlay extraordinary speaking and political skills into a presidential campaign built on sand.

    The idea that America might entrust its security and future to someone who has never demonstrated an ability to get anything of significance done is scary.

    Look for John McCain to begin exploiting this vulnerability after Labor Day

  • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/16/2008 12:46:23 PM

    Comment: OK time to lighten things up, has anyone seen this video about the 2008 election campaign? It is too funny!

    http://sendables.jibjab.com/

  • Posted By: ralphied @ 07/16/2008 3:08:36 AM

    Comment: Excuse me SPORTLOCK09 but most blacks when they do not get their way it all of a sudden becomes a race issue. The way I see it a lot of blacks do not want to improve their life style, they prefer to call the race issue. Blacks who have not called the race issue have improved their lives. They are people to look up to and admire and I can not say the same for the ones who are ready to call the race issue on any issue. Jesse tells it like it is but Obama tells you what you want to hear. Obama who???? .

  • Posted By: jalisuf @ 07/15/2008 9:00:07 AM

    Comment: i don`t really know why some group of hyphocrite kept on emphasizin that senator obama is a muslim cos i think being the president of united state of america has nothing to do with religion or race,it`s only base on personality and achievement which i feel he posses it all.so i`m appealing 2 all american`s 2 vote 4 senator obama.

    • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/15/2008 13:43:21

      Comment: How can you say religion and race have nothing to do with the president? Freedom of religion was a big part of our fight for independence in the first place, and freedom for racial equality was what drove the civil war. I am glad that you like Obama's personality, but it's not a popularity contest. And regarding his accomplishments, what has he accomplished exactly? He has yet to finish his first term in the senate. Any idea how long McCain has been around accomplishing the same "achievements?"

      It's dangerous to choose a leader based on charm. The last guy that fooled enough Americans (less than half) to become president embarrassed us all as we watched him get impeached and disbarred.

      Give Obama another 8 to 12 years. His day will come, but I don't think it's here quite yet.

  • Posted By: BLACKSS @ 07/14/2008 6:59:23 PM

    Comment: As an african american I am so sick of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton not admitting to the responsibilty that needs to be taken in many of the African American Communities. They both seem to step into different issues say a few worthless words for a free photo Opportunity. People LIke Bill Cosby and Barrack Obama have the courage and the intelligence to admit and encourage the communities to step up and acknowledge what needs to be changed and make those changes. Jesse Jackson is clearly jealous that Obama has gotten alot farther than he did when he attempted to run for president. Whether Obama is elected or not I hope this is encouragement to African Americans that anything is possible and there should be no more excuses!!!!

  • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/14/2008 6:13:33 PM

    Comment: Todays front page news. 33% of blacks in Cinacinnati Ohio say that if Obama loses it will be a huge step backwards in race relationsand almost certainly cause racial tensions...... Imagine that......Source...........Cincinnati enquirer 07-14-08 Sounds like race is a factor in Cincy among blacks. Honestly, the ONLY factor

    • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/14/2008 18:51:37

      Comment: If Obama loses it will be because of his lack of experience and softness on security issues. It has nothing to do with race.... especially since Obama is as white as he is black.

      • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/17/2008 10:21:14

        Comment: ...........JUST LIKE WHEN HILLARY LOST!

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/17/2008 17:09:59

          Comment: PRO-HILLARY website launched. Anyone who would like to sign the pledge (reiterated below and on the site), here is the link to the site: http://www.together4us.com/

          REMEMBER THIS MEDIA BLITZ AGAINST HILLARY NON STOP? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

          THE BYLAWS COMMITTE VOTE UNFAIRLY IN THE EYES OF MANY!
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1whezcwSrQE


          ALL the more to sign the pledge (repeated below) on this webiste www.together4us.com

          THE PLEDGE OF TOGETHERNESS: SPREAD THE WORD!

          We stand together with her 18 million voters in pursuit of all of the following:

          Bring us together by honoring Hillary Clinton and her supporters at the Democratic National Convention in Denver by:

          Placing her name into nomination (following traditional protocol)

          Ensuring a roll-call vote

          Inviting her to speak, during prime-time, on August 26th, the 88th anniversary of Women's Suffrage

          Bring us together by adoption of policies on the Platform Committee that Hillary Clinton has championed.

          Bring us together through reform of the primary and caucus system to reflect the basic principle of one person - one vote.

          Bring us together through outspoken denunciation of all gender bias, racism and other forms of discrimination.

          Bring us together by making a concerted effort to retire her campaign debt.

          We are being asked to embrace Party Unity without the fair representation of Hillary Clinton and her 18 million voters. Party Unity requires bilateral action. We ask Barack Obama and the DNC to respond.


  • Posted By: reisbergsgal @ 07/14/2008 5:49:29 PM

    Comment: Jesse Jackson could never be President because like so many other black Americans, he cannot get over his self-hatred. Obama is doing his best to keep race out of this campaign, which as a black man is impressive. Jackson has always hid behind the idea that if you speak about racism, you're fighting it. What he has yet to learn is that by continuing to speak about race over and over only adds fuel to the fire. Racism will only go away when we let it go away. Jesse Jackson will never let that happen because race is his bread and butter. I have heard Obama talk about his own race and the issues he faces and I appreciate his aloof-ness about it. He always seems to answer the question asked, and then change the subject to something more important. By making it a non-issue, hopefully one day it will become a non-issue.

    I am the daughter of a white mother and a black father and I have grown up listening to my father disect and criticize the black race. He doesn't understand why blacks have let him (and myself) down time and time again. I would get frustrated because I couldn't understand why such a large group of people couldn't get it together. I now understand that it is because we don't allow ourselves to move past race because it protects us. It gives us excuses, benefits, set backs, advantages, loss and gains. But more than anything blacks have used their race to build a wall, keeping them away from what they want to acheive. Whites are not the reason for the destruction of blacks. Whites have intimidated blacks into thinking that they are inferior, but blacks have solidified it. We are responsible for our own demise. This is something Jesse Jackson will never, ever accept.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/14/2008 18:14:43

      Comment: Hard to tell folk they cannot succeed in life because they are black if the president of the US is half black himself. Probably cost Jesse and Al millions a year

      • Posted By: BLACKSS @ 07/14/2008 19:08:52

        Comment: Reisbergsgal, I completely agree with your comment. Our ancesters had to endure so much more than what many of us claim to have experienced and they stilled managed to succeed in getting the same rights and opportunities as white america. I am one of many african americans who have made the comment to other african americans that we need to work on ourselves and quit using "the white man" as an excuse. I encourage Obama to stand his ground and keep speaking on this issue. No more excuses it is time for change!!!!

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/17/2008 17:16:18

          Comment: I have to tell you BLACKSS, I do respect Obama for his recent speech focused on instilling in african americans fathers (it was at the NAACP I believe) - actually, any fathers out there for that matter - that they should take responsibility for their children financially and emotionally ; to basically be there for them. I really do believe if fathers embrace this belief Obama has that this would make a great impact on our children and our country moving forward.

          • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/17/2008 21:53:39

            Comment: THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS DRIVEL I'VE EVER READ. YOU ARE ALL VERY, VERY IGNORANT

            1. JESSE JACKSON HAS DONE MORE FOR PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY IN A MORNING THAN ALL OF YOU PUT TOGETHER. HE HAS PUT HIS LIFE ON THE LINE ABOUT A 1000 TIMES, MARCHED WITH AND SOMETIMES IN FRONT OF MARTIN LUTHER KING, GOTTEN WHITE POW'S OUT OF WAR TORN COUNTRIES, WAS INFRONT OF THE TERRY SCHAIVO CASE(WHITE GIRL) IN FLORIDA TO KEEP HER ALIVE....ETC-EDUCATE YOURSELVES BEFORE YOU LET THE HANNITY'S AND RUSH'S OF THE WORLD ROBOT YOUR AZZ

            2. WHAT IS THIS SELF HATE STEREOTYPE-MAYBE REISBERG YOUR FATHER HAS IT AND THAT'S WHY HE MARRIED A WHITE WOMAN. I LIVE, EAT, SHOP AND LIVE BY BLACKS. I DON'T HEAR THAT NOR DO I HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT WHITES(EXCEPT THE EXTREME DISLIKE FOR GEORGE BUSH-THAT'S UNDERSTANBLE) SURE YOU HEAR BLACKS CALL OTHER BLACKS THEY "KNOW" THE N WORD-BUT ANSWER THIS-THE LAST 1 MILLION TIMES YOU'VE HEARD WHITE TRASH-WHO WAS SAYING IT-THANK YOU!. WHAT WE DO HATE IS HOW WE'RE NOT SEEN AS AMERICANS EVENTHOUGH WE BUILT THIS COUNTRY FOR FREE FOR 4 CENTURIES AND FOUGHT IN ALMOST EVERY WAR ONLY TO COME BACK TO BEING 2ND CLASS CITIZENS. 3 OF MY GREAT UNCLES SERVED IN NAM ONLY TO COMEBACK TO ALABAMA TO BE TREATED LESS THAN A WHITE MAN'S DOG.

            3. SPORTLOCK-JUST BECAUSE OBAMA IS HALF BLACK MEANS THINGS WILL BE BETTER-HELL-LOOK ALL THE HELL HE'S CATCHING BEING CALLED RACIST EVENTHOUGH HE HAS A WHITE MOM, RAISED BY WHIE GRANDPARENTS, HELED GET AN EX CARD CARRYING MEMEBER OF THE KKK REELECTED(BYRD) AND IS NOW HELPING PAY OFF A WHITE WOMAN'S DEBT THAT GOT INTO DEBT BY SEMARING HIM-WHAT HE GETS? BEING CALLED TAR BABY, TIGER WOODS, BOY, CURIOUS GEORGE THE MONKEY....ETC

            4. HERE'S A HISTORY LESSON-UP UNTIL 1980 BLACKS GOT MARRIED AND STAYED MARRIED MUCH MORE THAN WHITES. ALMOST 2 TO 1 PERCENTAGE RATIO. WHAT HAPPENED-YOU BOY REAGAN CAME IN AND WIPPED ALL THE WORK AND AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS THAT BENEFITED BLACKS SO GREATLY. WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUES-WORKING ALOT AND CAN'T WATCH THE KIDS-JUST MAKING ALOT LESS. ADD A LIQUOR STORE ON EVERY CORNER AND THE FAKE WAR ON DRUGS....60% OF BLACK MEN ARE IN JAIL ON NON VIOLENT DRUG OFFENSES.........

            5. I ONLY RESPONDED TO THIS BECAUSE A FEW OF YOU CLAIMED TO REPRESENT BLACKS BUT NO BALCKS I KNOW IS THIS SELF -DEPRECATING. THE STATS AND FACTS SHOW THAT WE HAVE A HELL OF A TIME GETTING OVER. A BLACK MAN IS 5 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO GET A 3 TIMES HARSHER SENTENCE THAN HIS WHITE COUNTERPART FOR THE SAME CRIME WITH THE SAME CRIMINAL HSITORY.....EVEN THE CONSERVATIVE SUPREME COURT SAID 4 MONTHS AGO THAT SENTENCING OF BLACKMEN HAVE BEEN " DISTATSEFUL, PUNITIVE AND HORRIBLE" BUT THAT GOT IGNORED BY MSM. BY THE WAY-LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT A WHITE PERSON UNARMED-GETTING SHOT AT 40-50 TIMES BY POLICE FOR NOTHING LIKE AMADAUO DIALLO AND SEAN BELL...........UNTIL THEN STFU.

            • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/17/2008 23:17:18

              Comment: 1. Jesse Jackson makes a living on the backs of people that claim to be oppressed. He fears Obama because a black president means that Jesse can no longer cry about "his" people being held back by the man. He created his own job because nobody in their right mind would have put him in charge of anything. He's an extortionist.

              2. The "N" word should never be spoken out loud by anyone. Period. Word's are not private property, they are not exclusive, no single group of people should ever lay claim to any word, especially this one. Just drop the word forever. Get over it. Regarding slavery, this country was trying to stop it even before our own independence. We have only been a country since the 1780's, so I have no idea what you think was being built for free for 400 years. Maybe you are thinking of England. They used to be here.
              Furthermore, the American military understood racial equality long before the rest of our society. Colin Powell once commanded an entire army base in a southern town where he could not use a gas station bathroom. That's in part why he LOVED the army.

              3. I have no clue what you were talking about in your third paragraph. It seems angry and it doesn't make any sense.

              4. I have never heard that statistic before, but it seems like a stretch to blame a president for the failure of a culture to maintain their marital vows. And you think its because he got rid of some after school programs? That's why nobody stays married in your neighborhood? That doesn't make sense either. You shouldn't need free government programs to stay married. That's not how marriage works.

              5. You have repeated an over-used but common mistake when applying statistics to crimes committed by different races. Two men might get different sentences for the same crime for a variety of reasons, but generally due to prior crimes in their history. It's not the color you were born with, its the number of crimes you committed along the way. Seems simple enough to understand. And yes, I have seen white unarmed men shot to death by police. And they are always disobeying the cops when it happens. This too, is really simple.
              Now read this carefully, maybe this will save your life: When a cop tells you to do something, even if you disagree with it or it seems to violate your rights--- do it. And do it slowly. Don't scare cops, even if they are scaring you. If they do something wrong you can take it up with his superiors later. You might feel a little aggravated or dehumanized..... but you will be alive.

              Thank you for posting your concerns in this forum and allowing me to motivate you into moving in a more positive direction. Good luck with your life, which you might enjoy more if you could just control the anger a bit.

              • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/18/2008 07:43:38

                Comment: 1. NOTICED HOW YOU GLOSSED OVER JACKSON'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND HOW HE'S PUT HIS LIFE ON THE LINE. IF HE IS SO FRIGHTENED OF BARACK-WHY DOES HE CAMPAIGN FOR HIM, WHY DID HE SUPPORT HIM AND NOT HRC? ALOT OF BLACKS WOULD'VE UNDERSTOOD-WE KNOW HOW CLOSE HE AND THE CLINTONS ARE, WHY IS HE GIVING TO OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN? THAT'S JUST MORE RIGHT WING DRIBBLE. I RECALL WHEN IMUS SAID WHAT HE SAID AND THE RIGHT WING WAS LIKE "WHY DON'T HE GO AFTER THE RAPPERS, SEE!? MIND YOU JESSE HAS BEEN BOYCOTTING AND PICKETING RAP SINCE THE F@#$$ 80'S.

                2. LOOK-NO BLACK PERSON BRINGS UP SLAVERY UNTIL WE FEEL AS IF WE'RE NOT BEING TREATED AS IF WE ARE AMERICANS TOO. HERE'S AN EXERCISE AND BE TRUE-CLOSE YOUR EYES AND PITCURE A BALLPARK ON THE 4TH, THERE'S A REAL AMERICAN FAMILY OUTSIDE THE PARK ABOUT TO GO IN-WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE? .....................DOES A PERSON OF COLOR COMES INTO YOUR MIND? NATIVE AMERICAN? BE TRUE............. I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT SLAVERY. I CARE ABOUT THINGS SUCH AS THE SUPREME COURT IN UNISON SAID, I CARE ABOUT HIRING PRACTICES AND AMADOU DIALLO AND SEAN BELL. NO BLACKS TALK ABOUT SLAVERY ALL LIKE THAT. WE DON'T EVEN SPEAK ABOUT WHITES PERIOD. WHAT IS THIS GARBAGE?

                3. SHOULD THE TERM "WHITE TRASH" BE ELIMINATED TOO? THE 1 MILLION TIMES I'VE HEARD IT IT WAS COMING OUT OF ANOTHER WHITE PERSON'S MOUTH. WHY DO ANY WHITE PEOPLE CARE? RACES OF ALL SORTS HAVE SLANG TO DESCRIBE EACHOTHER BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE "N" WORD THAT MAKES WHTES WANT TO SAY IT SO BAD? ANSWER THAT?

                3. YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. OBAMA IS BEING CALLED RACIST BUT IT'S SO RIDICULOUS BECAUSE OF THE FACTS INVOLVED. IF HE CAN BE CALLED THAT BECAUSE OF HIS PASTOR-WHY CAN'T MCCAIN BE CALLED THAT FOR HIS "OWN ACTIONS" OF VOTING AGAINST MLK DAY TWICE-IN THE 90'S?

                4. THAT'S A WELL KNWN STAT. BLACKS YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T -YES WE HAVE OUR ON CHANNEL AND WE ARE ON ESPN ALL THE TIME-BUT WE ONLY MAKE UP 8% OF THE POPULATION WHILE WHATES AT THE TIME MADE UP ALMOST 70. IT WASN'T JUST THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS BUT EVERYTHING ELSE I METNION. WAY TO JUST PICK ONE THING OUT TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE POINT- THAT'S WHAT TEENAGE GIRLS DO.

                5. DID YOU READ THE PART THAT SAID "SAME CRIME WITH SIMILAR CRIMINAL HISTORYS"-I GOT THAT FROM THE SUPREME COURT-IN UNISON-SO ARGUE WITH THEM ABOUT IT. I UNDERSTAND BEING SHOT-I DON'T UNDERSTAND BEING SHOT AT 41-50 TIMES. I DON'T UNDERSTAND SEATING ON YOUR PORCH WITH NO CRIMNAL HISTORY AND NO WEAPON BEING MURDERED, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY 4 PLAIN CLOTJHES COPS AT 3 AM THINK IT'S OKAY TO WALK UP ON A CAR AND THINK THE GUYS MAY THINK A LITTLE SUSPICOUS OF YOU...........WHEN HAVE YOU HEARD, READ OR SEEN THAT HAPPEN TO A WHITE PERSON? LET ME KNOW-I'VE GIVEN YOU STATS-LOOK SOME UP-A MATTER F FACT-FIND ME 1-JUST 1-1- STAT THAT SHOWS BLACKS ARE TREATED FAIRLY INA COURT OF LAW OR HIRING PRACTICES-ONE.

                I'M NOT ANGRY AT ALL. IT SEEMS THE TRUTH MAKES PEOPLE WHO ARE HEARING IT THINK THE PER

                • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/18/2008 09:11:32

                  Comment: Sirhc.... look a little lower. I hit the wrong reply button.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/14/2008 18:05:15

      Comment: Say what? Whites have intimidated blacks into thinking they are inferior? I see Al telling you you cant succeed. Ive seen Jesse telling blacks they cant succeed. Now, please, tell me. What white person, any white person, has told blacks they cqnt succeed? One name will be fine.

      • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/18/2008 08:38:30

        Comment: 1. Jackson is a buffoon because he forces his way into causes where he wasn't invited. He has never been elected to anything in his life but he somehow became a spokesman for people who don't really care what he has to say.

        2. The whole ball park thing..... huh? If you don't think there are black people in ball parks, go look in the dugout. And please, get over slavery. It was white brits that put blacks in chains, but it was white Americans that set them free. Why is that so often overlooked?

        3. White trash? Who cares. White people don't get all worked up about being called names. I guess its the whole sticks and stones thing. White people did not start the excitement over the "N" word, black people did. Whites are just surprised that blacks find it acceptable coming from black mouths, but not white mouths. Makes sense to me. Foul language is foul language... doesn't matter who says it.

        3. Why do you have two number 3's? Obama and McCain are no more racists than you and I are for having this exchange. There is nothing wrong with addressing issues of race. Calling someone racist is what people do when they run out of legitimate arguments.

        4. I don't get your point about black television. Huh?

        5. People that go to jail committed crimes. That's the rules. Who cares what color they are? It has much more to do with socioeconomics than anything else. Stop beating that dead horse.
        I find it odd that your complaint isn't so much about cops shooting people as much as it is about shooting them too many times. Cops shoot to kill. They unload their guns completely, normally. 17 rounds each X 3 cops is 51 bullets. It happens all the time here in Florida. It just doesn't get a lot of press because white and mexican dead perps don't have Al Sharpton to call press conferences. Again, cops get nervous when they tell someone to do something.... and they don't do it. I am sure it is scary. People need to learn that.

        As for your hiring practices for blacks, that argument will die the day Obama gets elected. From now on there will be no more "the man is keeping me down". If a black man can become president, a black man can do anything. If you are being held back, you are doing it to yourself and blaming someone else. That used to be sad, but from now on it will be pathetic.

        • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/19/2008 00:07:28

          Comment: 7. SAYING OBAMA GETTING THE PERSIDENCY WILL KILL THE NOTION(RATHER THE STATS AND FACTS) OF BLACKS BEING TREATED UNFAIRLY IN HIRING PRACTICES IS A JOKE AND SHOWS THAT YOU DON'T GET IT AT ALL. FOR ONE-OBAMA IS A HALF BLACK GUY WHO GREW UP IN HAWAII AND WITH A HARVARD DEGREE. SECONDLY, DO YOU THINK OABAMA'S PRESIDENCY WILL CHANGE THE MINDS OF PEOPLE WHO BELIEVES THE WAY JESSE HELMS DID?
          DON'T THINK I DON'T NOTICE YOU GLOSSING OVER POINTS AND STATS. ESPECIALLY THE SUPREME COURT STANCE THAT WAS IN UNISON-THAT'S RIGHT-ALITO, SCALIA, THOMAS.....

        • Posted By: sirhc @ 07/19/2008 00:06:39

          Comment: 1. UNFORTNATELY YOU REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE JESSE'S ACOMPLISHMENTS AND HAVE RESORTED TO CALLING HIM NAMES. ASK YOURSELF THIS-HAVE YOU DONE HALF OF WHAT HE HAS? AND IF NOT-WHAT DOES THAT IN TURN MAKE YOU?
          2 WHERE DID YOU READ IN MY POSTS THAT I WASN'T OVER SLAVERY? BUT SHOULD I ALSO GET OVER SEGREGATION, JIM CROW LAWS, THE BOMBING OF BLACK CHURCHES, THE PUBLIC LYNCHING OF 12 YEAR OLD BLACK BOYS OR AMADU DIALLO GETTING SHOT AT 41 TIMES FOR SITTING ON HIS PORCH? OR MAYBE THE FACT THAT YOUR FAMILY HAVE ENJOYED FREEDOM SINCE THE COUNTRY'S BIRTH WHILE WE HAD TO WAIT AND GET OUR BASIC CIVIL RIGHTS JUST 40 YEARS AGO.
          3. YOU HAVE IT BACKWARDS. WHITES ARE THE ONES CARING ABOUT WORDS. DO YOU HEAR BLACKS WANTING TO SAY WHITE RACIAL SLURS........MY POINT IS YOUR FIRST SENTENCE-WHO CARES? BLACKS HAVE REFERRED TO OTHER BLACKS THEY "KNOW" LIKE THAT FOR A LONG TIME. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT-TELL THE 60% OF THE RAP FAN BASE THAT PURCHASE CD'S(WHITE SURBURBAN TEENS) TO STOP BUYING GANGSTA RAP. THEN YOU WON'T HEAR IT ANYMORE OR ALOT LESS. NAME A BLACK VERSION OF IMUS, STERN, LIMBAUGH, OPIE AND ANTHONY, AMERICAN DAD AND FAMILY GUY CARTOONS.......................YOU DON'T SEE OR HEAR ANY OF HE REVERSE FROM US. CONTRAY TO POPULAR BELIEF-WHITES DON'T COME UP IN 99% OF BLACKS CONVERSATIONS-THIS SIN'T THE 60'S...-WE DO HATE GEORGE W. BUSH THOUGH- NO DOUBT.
          4. EXACTLY MY POINT. NEITHER ARE RACIST BUT WHO'S BEING CALLED IT 24 HOURS A DAY ON AM RADIO AND AN ENTIRE NEWS CHANNEL(FOX)? NO NEED TO ANSWER-IT'S OBVIOUS AND RHETORICAL.
          5. MY POINT WAS THAT THE PERCENTAGE WAS HIGH OF BLACKS BEING MARRIED BECAUSE IT WAS EASIER BECAUSE THERE ISN'T THAT MANY OF US. ESPECIALLY WHEN DIVORE WAS VOGUE FOR SURBABNITES AT THE TIME. ...FOR SOME ODD REASON.....PEOPLE THINK BLACKS MAKEUP HALF THE DANG COUNTRY......WHY YOU THINK THE CLINTONS FELT COMFORTABLE PLAYING THE RACE CARD IN 2 SEPERATE NOMINATION YEARS?
          6. I HAVE TO CALL YOU A LIAR THERE. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A UNARMEE WHITE GUY WITH NO CRIMINAL HISTORY, SITTING ON HIS PORCH, BEING SHOT AT 41 TIMES BY PLAIN CLOTHES COPS. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A UNARMED WHITE GUY BEING SHOT TO DEATH BY POLICE IN A HAIL OF BULLETS. JUST LIKE WHEN I ASKED YOU TO SHOW MA ONE STAT OF BLACKS BEING TREATED FAIR IN COURT OR HIRING PRACTICES-SHOW ME WHERE A WHITE GUY HAS BEEN SHOT AT 40-50 TIMES. AND NO-THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TRIGGER HAPPY-THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO ACT LIKE THEY WAY HE ACT ON "COPS" . THEY ACT CORRECT THERE BECAUSE THE CAMERAS ARE ON.

          • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/19/2008 10:08:08

            Comment: You know what's weird about this little argument is that if we worked in the same office we would probably be pretty good friends because most other people don't care about this stuff the way you and I do.

            Realistically, we look at the same problem through different lenses and will never change each other's views completely. I really do try to see it from a different perspective, but when I hear complaints like yours what it ends up looking like to me is someone so angry about the past and perceived prejudice shown others, that you can't see the opportunities out there for yourself. I can't speak for all white people, but I am always impressed by people that overcome poverty and self pity to succeed through hard work and determination. People that are willing to work hard to succeed are embraced and admired by employers. Color doesn't matter anymore... we have evolved past that and besides: It's the law.

            Anybody can do well if they really want to. Nobody succeeds looking back... it's all about looking forward to your greatest potential and working hard until you are there. I hope your anger doesn't hold you back. Maybe you can use it to your advantage somehow. Good luck with your future endeavors.

      • Posted By: Yuseff @ 07/15/2008 13:03:13

        Comment: Since we are talking politics I can easily think of Senators Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms who worked for years to keep Jim Crow in place and keep Blacks out of equal education and good jobs.

        But then again they didn't tell Blacks they couldn't succeed. They worked hard to make it so.

  • Posted By: ackridgek @ 07/14/2008 4:20:42 PM

    Comment: Jackson is upset because Mr. Obama is doing it his way and not the way they want him to do it. I never heard him talk down to anyone. He is the best candidate at this point and time, I know most of the posts on here are from zealots who fear having a black president. He beat Hilary because he is a class act, she couldn't one up him so she tried to tie all of these negative attacks, but Mr. Obama is keeping his eye on the prize. For all of the people on this site who are scared of having some one in the White House that doen't identify look like them get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/14/2008 18:09:08

      Comment: He beat Hilary because If Oprah smells a book it turns into a best seller and the fact the good ole boys just trounced the girl in the class to show her her place. Oprah has NEVER indorsed a candidate before Obama. Take a guess what the difference is between Obama and every other democratic candidate we have had. Suuuuuure its not about race to blacks. Noway can you say he pulled 94% of the black vote after he said he was black enough because he is black. Couldn't be. Would you say the 94% of blacks voted for Obamination because of their fear of having another white president?

      • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/16/2008 14:05:05

        Comment: HE BEAT HILLARY BECAUSE HER PARTICULAR VEHICLE HAS BEEN OVERLOADED WITH ALL THE EVIL BAGGAGE THAT THE CLINTONS BOTH REPRESENT!

        SHE DIDN'T LOSE BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN................SHE LOST BECAUSE SHE IS .....THAT ....WOMAN!....................WELCOME TO POLITICAL OBSCURITY HILLARY....................YOU EARNED IT!

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/17/2008 17:27:04

          Comment: I call the MSM the Mean-Spirited-Media after what they did to Hillary. We all remember how dispicable they were to her:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM
          http://www.youtube.com/user/ShutTheFreudUp

          In Support of Hillary:
          www.together4us.com
          http://blog.pumapac.org/


          • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/17/2008 17:32:47

            Comment: The Deceitful Negligent Committee (DNC) should not have messed around with the democratic process and shove Obama down our throats by fixing the outcome to turn out the way it did. It will be a pity if a white female or black male Democrat is not the next President, but we can all thank the DNC and the MainStreamMedia for their bias towards Obama ensuring that (come H*ll or high water), this man was going to be the democratic nominee to run against McCain.

            Given that, Hillary supporters will not let the DNC shove their type of anti-McCain thinking (e.g. their push about McBush and old man) down our throats either as we consider whether to support John McCain should Hillary not be on the ballot, which PUMA and hundreds of other organizations are pushing to make happen and it is starting to look like that might actually happen.

            http://www.youtube.com/user/ShutTheFreudUp
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1whezcwSrQE
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

            Hillary Supporters Unite:
            www.together4us.com
            http://blog.pumapac.org/



      • Posted By: Yuseff @ 07/15/2008 13:04:46

        Comment: Remember back when Al Sharpton ran for president. He never got more than 35% of the Black vote at any time.

        • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/18/2008 14:00:16

          Comment: I am surprised that he received that much. Thank you for reminding people of this fact, as I am soooo very tired of hearing that the only reason blacks are voting for him is be cause of his skin color. There was no way in hell that I would have ever considered voting for either Jackson or Sharpton. Obama is an entirely different type of black man. I would vote for him if he were blue.

  • Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 07/14/2008 11:25:40 AM

    Comment: Jackson's mistake was assuming Barry has balls. From all indications, he is a pu$$y.

    • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/16/2008 14:07:01

      Comment: NO ARGUING THAT WITH YOU ROCKY2001.................AFTER ALL YOU TWO DATED ALL THROUGH COLLEGE............HUH!

    • Posted By: reisbergsgal @ 07/14/2008 17:29:35

      Comment: Why would you say that? A response by Obama would prove nothing and accomplish nothing. You don't respond to every person that thinks you're an a--hole do you? Hopefully it's because you already know that the ones saying things about you have an entire bucket of issues that has nothing to do with you. Therefore no response is needed. Can you do me a favor-- next time you read an article-- keep it to yourself.

      America thanks you.

  • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/14/2008 9:35:03 AM

    Comment: Just as I predicted, an Obama win will screw things up for the self proclaimed leaders of the allegedly disenfranchised. Yes, that's right: I predicted this. Me. Floridave. I am a regular Nostradamus. Of course, I also predicted that Kerry would win and that Velcro Fly would be Z.Z. Top's biggest hit ever. I mean, I can't be right all the time. I'm not a supreme being (believe it or not), I am just a regular guy who puts his pants on both legs at the same time thanks to a special slide that I had installed next to my bed.

    Thank you. Vote McCain.

    • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/16/2008 14:08:16

      Comment: FUNNY..................BUT NOT VOTING FOR BUSH 3 !

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/17/2008 17:36:16

        Comment:


        STUMPER
        Posted Monday, June 16, 2008 6:40 PM
        Why McCain Wouldn't Be Bush III (Sorry, Barack)
        Andrew Romano

        Here is the full story: http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/06/16/sorry-barack-mccain-won-t-deliver-a-third-bush-term.aspx


        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/17/2008 21:26:19

          Comment: Share, I don't care what Andrew Romano thinks. McCain has voted alongside with Pres. Bush 95% of the time.

  • Posted By: pissed-off @ 07/14/2008 9:11:29 AM

    Comment: this might soud crazy but Obama should win'''if so here my plan our advice give him 15 trillion dollars break down is he could fix most thing;s in htree years/ by using governor's and mayors' at lesat health care and the housing market.job's and some poverty/ payback --raise taxes on the rich and some on the regular folks ,giving two more stimulus packages,federal workforce a one time 8% for three years sell off un-used gov;building and supplies,invest directly in agriculture and forestry and market or trading policies through them,pull over half the troops from Iraq create a new corp's of nation guards for disasters make all immigrant comply on path to citizen-ship while paying taxes asap and stopping NASA"S or cutting thier budget by 3/4 for they produce a lot of unecesssary ozone layer contaminates and at least we won't be in much of a finacial burden

  • Posted By: pissed-off @ 07/14/2008 8:23:04 AM

    Comment: Hey we are heading in for the GOLD nobody is scared of Jessie,Bill Hillary, AL,Wright,or anyone other than GOD we are keeping our eyes on the prize the fear cartoon's only show imaturaty this is about our future,present yester years and the relationship's from past and future's to come,the nation's of our neighbor's abroad and enimees to see something different we can change a lot this go round and while saving the planet for the next generation so all hater's need to just sit back and don't get involved oh I forgot their are a lot of Drum Majors out their (KING)'' if that you sit down hey it's time for a change it was either a Black man or a Woman he one did not go in debt and is trying hard to stand up for that change for we needed''

    • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/14/2008 15:50:58

      Comment: I figured out why you are "pissed off" . I think it's because when you type on on your computer only sentences that make no sense come out.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/14/2008 11:52:54

      Comment: WHAT???

  • Posted By: treyton @ 07/14/2008 1:12:19 AM

    Comment: Obama supporters better get used to the derogatory comments. A quarter of Clinton supporters are racist pigs. And the xenopobic GOP?.....well they have never found a minority they cannot and will not demonize! And the right-wingers? Like I said, this Jesse Jackson comment is nothing, most people can see it for what it is, just a man who found that he can no longer play the victim role.

    • Posted By: onepoker @ 07/15/2008 03:06:11

      Comment: Treyton- George Bush had the most diverse cabinet in Presidential history. He appointed Collin Powel as Secretary of State and then when he stepped down he followed it up with Condi RIce.. So quit bagging on us Conservatives we aren't racists if you would take the time to get to know us instead of judging on your prejudices you would realize that.

      • Posted By: Yuseff @ 07/15/2008 13:09:21

        Comment: George Bush had two Blacks in his cabinet plus Gonzales as AG. Bill Clinton had 4 Black cabinet members and a hispanic (sec. of housing) plus a Black (Togo West) secretary of the army, and two Black Surgeons General, although those last two posts aren't cabinet positions.

        • Posted By: onepoker @ 07/15/2008 16:05:00

          Comment: When Bush named his cabinet it was widely reported that he had the most minorities in his cabinet of any president including Clinton. Not that we should be arguing over who has the most blacks on their team I was just trying to point out that Conservatives are not racists.

      • Posted By: tippology1 @ 07/15/2008 09:05:54

        Comment: You know I agree with you, as I have been preaching this since Bush has been in office. Bush in my eyes has done a good job at reaching across the table to embrace all races of people as well as McCain and what do they get to show for it, a slap in the face. I have respect for Bush because at least he isn't soft and Obama is plain and simple. I am an Black American and my vote is for McCain because I don't see Obama reaching across the table like McCain will do. I see in Obama a man who wants to win at any cost and that is not strong character, to me that is selvish and low. I have no respect for anyone who will trash talk a sitting president and so many Americans has done so showing the world just how colorful we are, because no other country would step so low to do that about their leader. The one that hurts me the most is Black Americans because we have shown our true colors in this election, voting for a man the is similiar to us in traits only. The way the democrats tossed Hillary aside like that I hope with every ounce of air in me that they lose this fall. The democrats has shown no loyality for our country, no repsect for our president, and has shown they are just as dirty as the next man when it comes to politics.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/14/2008 18:18:07

      Comment: Bill Clinto bent so far backwards for the black community he was scraping the back of hios head on the ground. Now please, say you were just kidding. If you were a racist you certainly didnt vote for William Jefferson Clinton. Racist moron

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 05:28:56

      Comment: Trey . . . a quarter of the Clinton supporters are racist pigs? Are you kidding me based on what Bill Clinton did for the black community back in the '90s? And by the way, I dont know about what others said about Jesse Jackson Srs comments, although I do not support Obama at this point, I did not think his comments had any effect on the outcome of Obamas campaigne. Case closed.

      • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/14/2008 07:49:58

        Comment: sharenews, trey said Clinton supporters. They did say racist comments. I am supporting Obama all the way.

        • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/14/2008 09:39:27

          Comment: Racism has always run rampant among liberals. What else would you call programs that single out minorities such as affirmative action? They presume that minorities are not capable of providing for themselves. Liberals are haters. Conservatives believe that anyone can make it on their own.
          Don't hate, people. Join the GOP. You know you want to. Deep down, way down... we all want to be right.

          I am Floridave, and I approved this message.

          • Posted By: Kboogie @ 07/14/2008 17:50:27

            Comment: Affirmative Action was implemented to offset the institutionalized, legal discrimination that affected minorities AND, WOMEN. White women have benefitted from this policy to the same degree as minorities. As flawed as the policy may be, it has helped in correcting some of the oppressive legislation that conservatives voted to uphold. Join the GOP.....I think not, kiddo.

            • Posted By: onepoker @ 07/15/2008 03:10:00

              Comment: conservative discrimination was in the past.

              Liberal discrimination is going on right now.

              Is it better to be with the people who are making the mistake now or is it better to be with the people who have corrected their mistakes?

            • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/14/2008 18:46:10

              Comment: Your take of Affirmative Action sure sounds pretty, but that's not how it worked. It lowered standards for less qualified men and women---- period. You can pretend it was something else, but like Affirmative Action, your version will not be based in reality. Reverse discrimination is still discrimination. Affirmative action was created by people who believed that minorities could not make it on their own. That's unfair to the minority and to the non-minority that gets passed over.

              • Posted By: Yuseff @ 07/15/2008 13:15:52

                Comment: Affirmative action was never about hiring unqualified minorities (conservatives believe the two words are synonomous) it is about expanding the field of unqualified applicants a a position.

                Years ago, before affirmative action white conservatives deliberately excluded Blacks (and others) from positions saying they were unqualified. Now that we have affirmative action those same white conservatives are saying that due to affirmative action blacks are unqualified.

                • Posted By: onepoker @ 07/15/2008 16:09:03

                  Comment: Yuseff what are you talking about? Conservatives are saying blacks and whites should compete on a level colorblind field. I think Affirmative action was necessary coming out of the 50's and 60's but we have out grown it as a nation. There are few people that would argue Blacks are any less qualified than whites for any job. And those that do are fools.

                  • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/15/2008 16:39:58

                    Comment: Affirmative action works poorly in civil service. When lists are put together based on test scores or other qualifications, they are scored from best to worst. Typically you promote or hire starting at number one then work down. Affirmative action requires that you pick as far down the list as required to find a minority, passing over countless more qualified candidates.
                    How is that fair? How is that equal treatment? How is it not racist? How is it not an insult to the minority?

                    I stand by my original statement: Affirmative action is an insult to minorities. Only a racist could feel good about a program that is tied directly to color preference. Republicans are better than that.

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/13/2008 9:25:05 PM

    Comment:

    Incomes rose only at the top

    Average Annual Income

    The Vast Majority-----The Rich------------- The Super Rich



    2005------------ 270 million-------- 3million-------------------- 30,000

    Average
    Income
    1975 $29.968--- $359,501------- $ 3,430,164

    1985 $29,210--- $533,401------- $ 9,414,999

    1995 $27,614--- $654,057------- $10,574,657

    2005 $29,143 $1,111,560 $25,726,965

    Change After
    30 Years

    (825) (752,058) (22,296,801)

    Percentage
    Change

    (3%) (209%) (650%)

    Some people as a result of the
    Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush Economic policies are doing
    well

    "EXTREMELY WELL"

    LETS SEE 3,030,000 PEOPLE In the USA "DOING EXTREMELY
    WELL"

    270,000,000 People in the USA"DOING EXTREMELY BAD"

    Which group are you in?

    If we are not BITTER Why in hell are we not BITTER?

    Where your vote lies is where you are on the economic
    ladder? REALLY?

    Wait here is some very impressive numbers the 3
    trillion dollar invasion/occupation is costing every
    family in America 48K to 50k, which is providing
    500,000 thousand dollars in aid for every man, woman
    and child living in Iraq with 40% of the funds used to
    finance the invasion/occupation is from off shore
    lenders. thats the money part of the equation which is
    not good.

    The lives lost equations is 4000 + of our most brave
    Americans being palyed as pawns in some very wickedly
    sick rich people's chess game. That equates to 11
    armed service personal being killed in Iraq every day.
    This does not include the staggering amounts of death,
    of the Iraqi people.

    And we can take it one step further
    Let us take the people in the USA who live on the
    poverty level of the economic step ladder.
    In the year 2000 there were 27 mil people living in
    poverty with about an average of 27 children dyeing
    every day because of that fact. that equates to 9855
    children dead every year in the USA so lets take that
    even further roughly about 49275 since the beginning of
    the invasion/occupation. But that number could
    possibly be even higher since we now have 35 mil
    people who live in poverty today, in The USA.
    Now we all must all be just deaf, dumb and blind
    either by choice, ignorance or lack of information by
    main stream media.

    Or let us just look at a simple thing as bridges in
    disrepair in The USA
    Of the country's nearly 600,000 bridges, 26% were
    found structurally deficient or "functionally
    obsolete" in a 2006 U.S. Department of Transportation
    report. (That equates to 156,000) The condition of
    heavily used urban bridges like the one that collapsed
    Minn. is even worse: one in three are classified as
    aging or unable to accommodate modern vehicle weights
    and traffic volume.
    We don't have the funds to fix our bridges and our
    roads in direpair.

    What are we building in Iraq?

    • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/16/2008 14:14:25

      Comment: .................YOU FORGOT ONE STAT: IN 1985 THERE WERE 15 BILLIONAIRES IN THE U.S.A...............TODAY THERE OVER 10000!

      • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/16/2008 14:29:04

        Comment: SORRY, 1000

    • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/14/2008 09:48:01

      Comment: Here's the solution: Phase out most welfare and medicaid programs and put the money into infrastructure. Whatever is left put into educating people that can't afford children to not have them.

      Also, stay in Iraq until we accomplish our goals instead of allowing Barack Hussein to allow us to surrender, which would lower our standing in the world and create an environment where 4000 men and women died for nothing. As attractive as surrender and flag burning is to liberals, it's really not the right thing to do.

      See? It's simple! And you leftys thought that it was going to be difficult.

  • Posted By: ConservativeChick @ 07/13/2008 5:04:21 PM

    Comment: Jackson and Obama...love hate relationship....Jackson meant what he said about Obama and cutting off body parts....black leaders might be the problem in the black community. Instead of black leaders whinning and sniffling with regards to more entitlements and affirmative action social, state and federal jobs, why not encourage blacks to mature and take responsibility. Part of the learned responsibility would be to tell blacks to not purchase homes, cars, etc. that they cannot afford, thus causing housing crisis in U.S. Stop allowing their children to listen to "Rap Crap"...."hike your pants up so that they can walk naturally"....of course, this is on the record.

    • Posted By: Yuseff @ 07/15/2008 13:17:27

      Comment: Yes more Marilyn Manson and NSync is the answer.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/14/2008 11:57:02

      Comment: DO YOU READ? Some how I doubt it because "Sweetie" white boys are the major supporters/purchasers of Gangsta Rap, look it up? Regarding the pants, again look at your own children.

      I will not even bother addressing the rest of your racist rant. You are an ignorant fool

      • Posted By: Floridave @ 07/14/2008 18:49:40

        Comment: Conservative Chick, when liberals call you a racist, it means you have won your argument because they have no substantial response. It's right out of their play book. Next he will have to sue you for reparations. Wait and watch.