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  • Posted By: LieDetector @ 07/12/2008 7:50:26 PM

    Barack was right about withdrawing troops. The Pentagon AND the Iraqis agree.
    Now run and tell that!

    • Posted By: REALITY CHECK @ 07/12/2008 9:31:17 PM

      OBAMA WANTED TO CUT AND RUN WITHOUT WINNING. I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. DUH!

      • Posted By: Slave of The Subduer @ 07/13/2008 3:59:54 AM

        Your posted name REALITY CHECK does not fit you. A bettere posted name would be " I NEED TO CHCK MYSELF" and then you would not set your self up for such worthless comments you give. The people on these comments have ripped you apart. So i ask you reality check, has reality set in yet... for you I think not.

      • Posted By: Perusing-through @ 07/13/2008 2:50:09 AM

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        HEY "REALITY CHECK", YOUR REPLY MAKE IT SEEM LIKE YOU ARE NOT IN TOUCH WITH REALTY.

        Does it ever come a time when GOP ditto-heads see the light? "Cut and Run" is so yesterday! It's the political catch-phrase doled out by this administration to savage the character of any one challenging their strategy regarding the war on terrorism.

        For those people arguing that it was unwise for the U.S. to leave business undone in Afghanistan and to venture into Iraq (under false pretense), were unjustly accused of being cowards, unpatriotic, and weak. And as the Iraq disaster unfolded and people confronted this administration about a change in strategy, the administration response was to go political and attack with false "cut and run" accusations. The "cut & run" attack only worked on a few GOP ditto-heads back then, and its not fooling anyone today.

      • Posted By: LieDetector @ 07/12/2008 9:46:38 PM

        Read before you comment.
        Iraqis want us out.

        • Posted By: yohimbemama @ 07/13/2008 12:38:07 AM

          Succeed in Iraq? At what? Saddam was far from the worst dictator on the planet. there are dozens of others just as bad, even now. We pretty mugh ignore them. Meanwhile, the global economy is in the toilet, and while distracted by lies about removing an evil dictatior (see above) the environment is finished off. Forever. We have been doomed by republicans. It's over. Stock up on hunting/survival gear now. Seed. Ammo. Figure where you will make your stand. Get ready to head for the hills. It MIGHT prolong you and your familys life a little. If we are lucky. But the sky REALLY is falling. Fast? who knows. Soon? Cant' tell. But probably. And when it co mes, the earths citys will burn. We already rural folk can't take you in. You will get one warning shot. Maybe. I know you will be hungry and afraid. Not our fault you failed to read the writing on the wall, and did not prepare. Best advice: Leave the citys now. Might not help though, may not be air to breathe or water to drink. Good luck, peace be with you.

      • Posted By: dleger @ 07/12/2008 11:14:24 PM

        How can you discuss winning when you are not on the front lines having to fight a war that was a total lie. Winning has nothing to do with WMD, disabled men and women who fought a needless war, billions of dollars that should have been used for U.S. needs and the death tolls in the thousands. WINNING???

  • Posted By: dozerdog @ 07/12/2008 10:21:15 PM

    it appears that lenkatesi and mariahisabella suffer from the largest problem this country now faces, partisan hatred to the nth degree. whether people that hate this current president get it or not this countrys military performed remarkably. A dictator who according to russian, french, and british intel was dealing with terrorists has been removed and our president whether the arm chair quarter backs like it or not truly connected the dots as requested on 9/11. i only hope that at the end of this coming election whoever the losing party is can demonstrate a greater love for this country and its presidential office than the people so selfishly critical now. god bless america

    • Posted By: gundersonrogers @ 07/13/2008 3:57:16 AM

      dozer,
      What planet have you been living on?

      I share your value for a citizenry that sees "We, the People" as one, and love our country, --however, calling people hateful is at odds with that.

      The Great Political Divide is currently between informed citizens, and those who have swallowed the propaganda.

      It's been IDEOLOGY vs. REASON for eight years.
      An effective democracy/republic requires INFORMED voters. With our current mainstream media, it's difficult to wade through all of the propaganda to learn what's really going on.

  • Posted By: kanank13 @ 07/13/2008 3:53:35 AM

    Bush has openly said few times in some interviews that American military is in Iraq at the invitation of the Iraqi people. If there is any ounce of truth in that statement, then we should not be even discussing to stay or not. When majority of the Iraqis say 'get lost', we should get out. Obviously the dumb and arrogant Americans don't know truth from ficton.

  • Posted By: REALITY CHECK @ 07/12/2008 9:29:20 PM

    ANYBODY THAT THINKS WE'RE STAYING IN IRAQ FOR OIL PROBABLY NEVER MADE IT PAST THE FOURTH GRADE. AFTER SPENDING $BILLIONS TO GET RID OF HUSSEIN, WE STILL HAVE TO PAY FULL MARKET PRICE FOR ANY OIL WE GET FROM IRAQ. DUH!

    • Posted By: Slave of The Subduer @ 07/13/2008 3:53:31 AM

      Duuuh!!!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: jonguu @ 07/12/2008 11:54:09 PM

      How about some more REALITY. Oil company PROFITS have skyrocketed. DUH!

  • Posted By: PleaseSaveAmerica @ 07/13/2008 12:49:51 AM

    One thing that anyone who thought going to Iraq was warranted hasn't been able to explain to me with any rational thought is:

    Why haven't we invaded North Korea, Iran, Zimbabwae, Sudan? All of them have horrible regimes in power. The first two, at least, have the threat of nuclear power. So why haven't they been invaded by us yet? And don't give me the "Well, Iraq is first on the list and they are next answer".

    • Posted By: happ99 @ 07/13/2008 1:18:25 AM

      I will respond to your comment. The first thing I will ask is, do you keep up with the news? The second, have you ever been in the military? Do you see things one sided and refuse to accept reality? I already know what political party you are just from your hostility in your post. Try to not be political and read about why we are there, and dodge anything you see that says we are there for oil. Do you really think that if we were there for oil that we wouldn't already have it? Democracy is the reason, and Saddam did have weapons. Iraq still has WMD hidden in underground bunkers as was proven over a year ago when there was a big cache of biological weapons was found.
      The Afghan boarder is what to watch at this time. Isn't it amazing that the US isn't allowed to attack that area or go into the Afghan areas to chase Bin Laden? Think about it.

      • Posted By: Norman637 @ 07/13/2008 3:37:32 AM

        Okay, so you wore a uniform, many of us did, and it gives you no more information about what and why this country does anything than the rest of us. As a matter of fact you usually realize that you don't know half as much as those on the outside. You would have us think that you have some inside information because you served b.s. You are a moron Monday morning quarterback, nothing else.

      • Posted By: PleaseSaveAmerica @ 07/13/2008 1:28:23 AM

        You tell me what hostility that you are referring to? And I never said they were their for oil? That's the point, we were *told* why we were there; but the reality says that wasn't true. So you tell me, why are we there? And when you tell me, back it up with proven fact (not spin, not talking points) that justify (and that is a keyword -- justify) a preemptive attack on a nation. I defy you to tell me that. If you read my posts you would see that I am deep-rooted in independence, not political party. I am fine with the war in Afghanistan; I was fine with the first Gulf War. So tell me why, when all evidence points to deception and mismanagement, can I not be fine with the Iraq war? Tell me!!!

        Actually, in fact, I keep up with the news more than you might think. And no, in fact, I don't see things one-sided. I see things as they are. You don't know what political party I belong to -- and, actually, that has no bearing on this situation. Fact vs. Opinion does not equate to Democrat vs. Republican.

        All I care about is fact. That's it. Someone tell me factually why we preemptively invaded Iraq vs. why we don't preemptively invade other nations.

        • Posted By: happ99 @ 07/13/2008 1:49:07 AM

          You are a Democrat. Now, do you realize that the things you say are one sided? If I can see this on an open board, how many others do you think are here that see it? I have no political affiliation at this time, and have been in the military in combat. I was raised with responsabilities at 25 cents a week allowance. I was raised with an ass whipping when I screwed up. I was raised when a kid could crash into a wall on his bike without a helmet on. I was raised when a country said "IN GOD WE TRUST", I was raised to pay my own way through life instead of ask mom or dad for money, a place to live passed 19, food, or have someone else, a person or the government pay for my housing or food. I was raised to have respect in myself, and not back down to those cowards that wear a suit and tie.
          My point has been made, but do you know where to put oil in your car if it needs it? If so, you are one of the minority as I am.

          • Posted By: MariaIsabella @ 07/13/2008 3:21:23 AM

            All I see happ99 is that YOU are the one with hostility or anger issues. Yes, we KNOW you have been in the military, you continue to point it out to us in every post. Your party affiliation is crystal clear when you knock all Democrats in your rantings. Typical of your party, you resort to childish insults because you can't carry a normal conversation without blowing up if someone doesn't agree with the ridiculous rhetoric you spew. Iraq should of been handled in the same manner as North Korea, with diplomacy involving outside countries, since we don't seem capable of it. Our problems in the Middle East started with Truman, not Carter.

  • Posted By: jgnewman @ 07/13/2008 12:55:38 AM

    I don't think any of the candidiates are telling the American people the truth, let alone our current administration. It looks like we're in for more of the same. Change, indeed.

    • Posted By: happ99 @ 07/13/2008 12:59:24 AM

      have you ever seen an honest politician? It is called "cheat to win"

      • Posted By: Slave of The Subduer @ 07/13/2008 3:35:53 AM

        Honest and politician. These 2 words can't be next to each other in the same sentence.

  • Posted By: Perusing-through @ 07/13/2008 3:01:39 AM

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    *****NEWS ANALYSIS*****

    SENATOR OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN FOR CHANGE and THE PROMISE TO END THE IRAQ WAR (CAREFULLY), MAY HAVE PLAYED A ROLE IN PROMPTING IRAQ TO ASK THE U.S. FOR A TIMETABLE FOR TROOP REMOVAL.

    THAT MEANS SENATOR OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN FOR CHANGE MAY HAVE ALREADY BEGIN WORKING AND HE GETS ANOTHER GOLD STAR FOR INTERNATIONAL INFLUENCE. JUST IMAGINE HIS ADMINISTRATION'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS ONCE THEY GET IN OFFICE IN 2009.

  • Posted By: GWB is #1 @ 07/13/2008 12:31:04 AM

    You people are unbelievable!!! GWB is the best thing we have had since Ronald Reagan. If you haven't been to Iraq or served your country. I have no time for your whinning. We are winning the GWOT and it is because of George W. Bush. Those of us in uniform deserve better than Obama for a Commander in Chief.

    • Posted By: happ99 @ 07/13/2008 2:09:31 AM

      Although I won't get political in this particular post...If you are a military vet, or in the military, my prayers go out to you and you have my support. If you are in combat, play dirty and save your ass. Cheat to win!!!

    • Posted By: PleaseSaveAmerica @ 07/13/2008 12:47:15 AM

      Oh, I see. You are delusional. That answers my question down below. The best president since Ronald Reagan? That's pretty funny. If that is so true, why is the McCain camp having *so* much trouble deciding what to do with Bush at the convention? Because they are afraid he will just be *too* awesome? Come on now. Keep it real.

  • Posted By: yohimbemama @ 07/13/2008 12:40:31 AM

    Posted By: yohimbemama @ 07/13/2008 00:38:07
    Comment: Succeed in Iraq? At what? Saddam was far from the worst dictator on the planet. there are dozens of others just as bad, even now. We pretty mugh ignore them. Meanwhile, the global economy is in the toilet, and while distracted by lies about removing an evil dictatior (see above) the environment is finished off. Forever. We have been doomed by republicans. It's over. Stock up on hunting/survival gear now. Seed. Ammo. Figure where you will make your stand. Get ready to head for the hills. It MIGHT prolong you and your familys life a little. If we are lucky. But the sky REALLY is falling. Fast? who knows. Soon? Cant' tell. But probably. And when it co mes, the earths citys will burn. We already rural folk can't take you in. You will get one warning shot. Maybe. I know you will be hungry and afraid. Not our fault you failed to read the writing on the wall, and did not prepare. Best advice: Leave the citys now. Might not help though, may not be air to breathe or water to drink. Good luck, peace be with you.

    • Posted By: happ99 @ 07/13/2008 1:08:36 AM

      Learn about Jimmy Carter before you make an idiot of yourself again. He is the one who started it all in the Middle East.

      • Posted By: PleaseSaveAmerica @ 07/13/2008 1:32:18 AM

        Come on now. I am no Jimmy Carter apologist, but many of the same folks who said Iraq was the most horrible thing since Satan were shaking hands with Saddam Hussein back in the days of Carter and the early days of Reagan. Let's keep it on an even keel please.

        • Posted By: happ99 @ 07/13/2008 1:55:37 AM

          I know, the truth hurts. Even keel? let me put it this way...I'm sorry I screwed up and said something you don't agree with. I'm sorry JC let a known killer and terrorist get away after I shook hands with him and gave arms and financial help to. I'm sorry Bin Laden was the lead man in killing all those in the Twin Towers.
          Does that make you feel better? I apologized.


          Do all my apologies make you feel better?

  • Posted By: baytownbreaux @ 07/13/2008 1:14:08 AM

    I voted for Bush for governor and president twice. I have been working in Iraq for 5 years. I???m so dissatisfied with Bush that even though I???m a registered Republican I???m voting for Obama. I have been in Iraq from the beginning. All I have seen is Halliburton and KBR pilfering BILLIONS from tax payers. Their employees are comprised of former fast food workers along with the management. Time and time again government auditors have recommended that they be removed from the LOGCAP Project but they remain because of backing directly from Bush and Chaney. 50% of KBR???S workforce is from Bosnia. Millions of US tax dollars are going to their country instead of being put back into the US economy. The mind of the Bosnians is that America owes them something. This whole Iraq project of Bush and Chaney needs to be brought to a complete end. The Iraqis are no different than welfare recipients in America. They expect you to provide them with everything and do nothing to help themselves. Why not if there is a fool that does it for them. This is why I???m starting a campaign to pull out fully to every senator and congressman/or woman. Its time America wakes up and end the greed of George Bush and company!!!!!
    Ron Tikrit, Iraq

  • Posted By: jgnewman @ 07/13/2008 12:50:19 AM

    When is Iraq going to start repaying the USA for ALL the money we've spent on their war?

  • Posted By: Perusing-through @ 07/13/2008 12:09:36 AM

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    AN UNSCRUPULOUS and IMMORAL ADMINISTRATION

    Right now the democrats have control of the House and Senate. I don't expect the current Republican administration to allow the Democrats to waltz into the White House come January '09. Not when there are a thousand impeachable offenses just lying around the White House to be discovered once the Democrats takeover the exec.

    So it is no surprise to me this administration would find its way into some major troop withdrawal on the eve of General elections. Its called the "Reverse Wag-the-Dog" strategy. In the mind of this administration, there is nothing too vile, if that is what it takes to keep control of the White House.

    Whether it is a "Reverse Wag-the-Dog" strategy or the capture of Bin Laden on the eve of the General Election, I expect this administration to do what ever it takes, no matter how unethical, to lock in the White House for John McCain. The credibility of this administration has dropped so low, it is non-existent. When the president went back on his word to punish the 'CIA leakers', but instead effectively immunized Scooter Libby and Karl Rove from justice, the administration credibility went to zero.

    In short, expect the current administration to exercise any possible number of strategies to remain in office by doing whatever it takes, no matter how 'unscrupulous' to give McCain a win. They are that desperate, and the Democrats and the American people better start realizing that!

  • Posted By: SimpleMan2008 @ 07/13/2008 12:06:08 AM

    The Brave US citizens where never in this war for the long haul, they thought it would be a cake walk to cheep gas and give the bushes the revenge they so deserved> If we don't show our might it just mighr take us out too. These A-Hole can see we are runnuning scared, and if they can prove they are ready now we are will to hand the county we spent so many lifes and limbs to invade off to anyone who might be able to let us go free. !!! F- Freedom if it means we are such Pussys

  • Posted By: YoungArmyVeteran @ 07/13/2008 12:05:00 AM

    IF you think Bush is bad president ,wait until McCain becomes elected

    DONT VOTE FOR McCAIN

  • Posted By: Werjustaminutefromtheend @ 07/12/2008 11:47:45 PM

    Grammar corrections (word not work) (your not you) Sorry

  • Posted By: ooeeoo @ 07/12/2008 11:38:01 PM

    I don't know why the United States didn't pullout of Iraq after the first month of the war.During that month they disrupted and put Iraq in dire straits. After that first month, I believe the damage was done,and it would take many years for Iraq to recover. Why didn't we pull out?????

  • Posted By: jonguu @ 07/12/2008 11:35:07 PM

    Before any drawdown of forces can take place, the Pentagon will need to issue no-bid contracts for the necessary valet services. Face it; history will remember this war as the biggest government orchestrated rip-off of all time long after the valor and sacrifice of our troops are forgotten.

  • Posted By: Lee2008 @ 07/12/2008 11:34:19 PM

    I am a christian and is agaist any war. I dont blieve in being in Iraq is accoplishing our security agaist terrorism. I believe its the opposite. I believe the answer to all our problems is surrendering our self to Jesus as his God and saviour its the only way thru our redemtion here on earth and on the next life. I bellieve on the ten commandments and the Bible (word of God) and some on context of the ten commandments says: Dont shall not kill ; Love your neighbor as you love your self. It also tell us he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword. I believe we should uphold democracy and diplomacy. If the very essence of democracy and freedom is what we (americans should promote , then we should show that in the world to include Iraq and the rest of the world. I dont think that being at war with anyone would solve any problems. It can just promote more hate and more enemies.

  • Posted By: ObamaMama @ 07/12/2008 11:04:37 PM

    The Iraquis desire national sovereignty. al -Maliki continues to gain credibility and can only do so if HE's calling the shots and the U. S. respects those calls. Guidance, yes. COOPERATION, NOT CO-ERCION will rebuild and fortify their national pride and will be steps to regaining respect worldwide for America. The valor, the honor, the commitment our veterans continue to make in the face of this struggle continue to be exemplary to the Iraqui nationals, military, police. Their own sons and daughters have died side by side with ours. It is time to listen to their leader and begin a carefully orchestrated drawdown. At the same time, the other regional countries need to give their moral plus support to the sovereignty of Iraq and to al-Maliki. This will allow the exit to be done strategically, successfully. Senator Obama will engage due diligence before enacting the drawdowns.

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