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Why Vietnam Loves McCain

They jailed him for five years. Now they want him in the White House.

By Ron Moreau | NEWSWEEK
Published Jul 12, 2008
From the magazine issue dated Jul 21, 2008

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  • Posted By: AtheistFirebrand @ 08/02/2008 11:34:35 PM

    Comment: This discussion, and any discussion on Vietnam for that matter, is mired in myth and bias. To date, America is unable to cooly analyze this part of its history, which started as a myth, caused unimaginable suffering on all sides, and then -- grotesquely -- perpetuated itself beyond any recognition of objective as well as moral truth. The original Newsweek story and the ensuing "debate" are so transparently inundated with bizarre archetypes that it doesn't matter what anyone says.

  • Posted By: AtheistFirebrand @ 08/02/2008 11:02:45 PM

    Comment: Test

  • Posted By: winemaster2 @ 07/23/2008 7:21:57 AM

    Comment: The bigger question is that Lt. Commander John Sidney McCain the third only flew no more then 25 hours of combat mission bombing mostly civilian targets in Hanoi and other parts of N. Vietnam and yet the US Navy and DOD decorated him with 28 medals. His earlier merits and record is that he graduated $486 out 0f 489 in his class at the Naval Academy. His class mates contend, that his graduation was a favor to his heritage of being a son and grand son of admirals. During McCain's naval aviator training, he destroyed four aircraft, unprecedented in Naval History. The first incident was when he over shot the runway at his base and ended up in the gulf of Mexico. The second time Mexico.Thesecond time when ThsssThesecond time, when flying

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 07/18/2008 2:34:46 PM

    Comment: Nations around the World including Germany are Excited to See Barack Obama.....

    Watch the Masses in each Country, that come out to see this Man...Watch and See !!

    Visiting Countries is not something you have to EARN...If that were the Case, what was John McCain doing in Columbia or Mexico ...Hmmmm as well as Visiting Iraq an confusing Shia & Sunni for Muslim Extremist or Al-Queda !!

    McCain Scolds obama on not visiting Iraq, yet has Not Visited Afghanistan, in Over 2 Years !!

    Yet McCain says "He Knows how to Win Wars" when in Fact, McCain has NEVER been Involved in a Successful War Campaign as a Naval Pilot or having a War Strategy or Formula Implemented...Ever

    So Much for McCain's "War Experience" and his "Knowledge On Winning Wars"

    I Did'nt know that Viet Nam was a Successful War Effort ? I thought we Lost that War and thats why the Viet Nam Nation is Still (Communist)

    Note: And in Spite of it all, The USA still does Big Business in, Still Very Communist, Yet Now Capitalist .....Viet Nam !!!

    McCain went to London, No Hoopla !!

    McCain also went to Iraq under... Heavily Gaurded & Armed Security.

    Though McCain Lied to Wolf Blitzer and said, a Person could Walk the Streets without Security and that general Patraeus wealks the streets without Heavily Armed Security, until the following day, General Patraeus Staff Dispelled Such BLATANT & FLAGRANT LIES !!

    This International Tour will Expose how Popular this Man (Obama) is All Around the World and Mccain, His Surrogates, his Rep. Party and John McCain, Can't Stand it, because it Exposes the World's Embrace of a Fresh and New American Visionary Leader.

    Note: D'Mitry Medvedev is only (42 yrs. Old) and is a Highly Educated Lawyer, with No Military or KGB Background, yet he is Russia's New President.

    Barack is 46

    So much for John McCain's "Military Experience"

    That Experience is going to be put to the TEST in November...Wheres the Experience John...

    How many LIVES in Viet Nam, did you SAVE...War Heroe...

    How much Classified Information, did you Devulge, to the Viet Cong... John

    George W. Bush Jr. what Military Experience did he have ?

    So Much for "Military Experience"

    Bah Hum Bug !!!

    Jim Webb & Wesley Clarke...Real Viet Nam Heroes...

    John McCain: Graduated Last in his Class, No Military Command in Viet Nam, 6 Wrecked Planes, Air Plane Shot Down, Becomes a VIET NAM POW, Semi-Tortured an when the Viet Cong, realized they had a Navy Admirals son, they gave him Special Treatment, Mccain Devulged Classified Information to the Enemy and those same Jailers in Viet Nam Endorse him Today...

    Things that make you go....Hmmmmm

  • Posted By: getzel @ 07/17/2008 4:37:11 PM

    Comment: IF ONLY NEWSWEEK HAD ANY CREDIBILITY. YOU COULD JUST AS EASY MAKE UP A STORY WITH THE OPPOSITE THEME. LIKE I BELIEVE NEWSWEEK HAS A RANDOM SAMPLE OF VIETNAMESE FEELINGS ON MCCANN. OBUMER.

  • Posted By: wasp5a @ 07/17/2008 4:25:47 PM

    Comment: I found the article on Why Vietnam likes McCain a great fantasy. I just returned from a four week trip to Southeast Asia including over a week in Vietnam (Hanoi and Saigon). Everywhere I went everyone was very up on the American political race. Without any exception, I found ALL women preferred Hillary (this was prior to the end of the campaign). On a river in the back roads west of Hanoi, a canoe of high school girls pulled along side to ask "what about Pennsylvania?" Everywhere we went: (Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Cambodia) everyone we met had an opinion and NOT one person supported McCain. In fact, many expressed fear of him and remember his comments about leaving Vietnam too soon. BTW: Vietnam today is much of what we fought to achieve, -- freedom of information (CNN and world papers are readily available on the street), freedom to travel (except the US puts limits on Vietnamese visiting here), ownership of property, open worship of religion including Christianity (there is a beautiful, huge new Catholic Church/cathederal just north of Hanoi). Too many older Vietnamese they view McCain as we do terroists in this country. Here was a man shot down while bombing non military and mostly civilian targets and rice fields. (Shouldnt we have learned by now that "shock and awe' on increases the determination of those recipients? The younger generation is a lot less angry at the US. They have had two wars since "The American War" -- against the Khemer Rouge and against China so like many Americans those earlier wars were a different generation.

  • Posted By: master padma @ 07/17/2008 2:45:58 AM

    Comment: The issue with most of these comments is they assume the Vietnamese people are somehow less intelligent, less mature, less thoughtful than Americans. The Vietnamese I know are just as well informed as the Americans--probably more so because they are not subjected to Fox.

  • Posted By: Dan Rabbit @ 07/16/2008 1:59:46 PM

    Comment: I was in Vietnam this spring for 3 weeks with my school. We traveled from HCMC to Hanoi. I had a discussion with a group of university students called Saigon Hotpot who give excellent free tours in exchange for the chance to practice English with Americans. I was asked who I supported and I told them Obama. They expressed a preference for Hillary because of her husband's policies toward Vietnam and their horror that McCain might win. I did not have time to ask what bothered them about McCain so I could only speculate. While my conversation was only with a few students in one city and not a scientific poll, it does represent a Vietnamese opinion that is at odds with the author of this article.

  • Posted By: Dan Rabbit @ 07/16/2008 1:58:07 PM

    Comment: I was in Vietnam this spring for 3 weeks with my school. We traveled from HCMC to Hanoi. I had a discussion with a group of university students called Saigon Hotpot who give excellent free tours in exchange for the chance to practice English with Americans. I was asked who I supported and I told them Obama. They expressed a preference for Hillary because of her husband's policies toward Vietnam and their horror that McCain might win. I did not have time to ask what bothered them about McCain so I could only speculate. While my conversation was only with a few students in one city and not a scientific poll, it does represent a Vietnamese opinion that is at odds with the author of this article.

  • Posted By: skagway @ 07/16/2008 10:45:48 AM

    Comment: Is Manchuria in Vietnam?

  • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/15/2008 6:09:48 PM

    Comment: Clinton is asking for money, not to retire her debt but to add to her 2012 campaign fund. Read below.

    Has any of you received an email like this one?

    Hillary Clinton Asks To Keep Donor Money for 2012
    July 14, 2008
    By Jason Horowitz

    Hillary Clinton???s campaign is sending out letters to donors asking permission to roll a $2,300 contribution to Clinton???s 2008 general election coffers to her 2012 senate election fund instead of offering a refund.

    The letter, read to me by one recipient, includes a photocopy of a handwritten note from Clinton that says, ???Dear friend, your commitment has meant so much to me over the course of my presidential campaign. You were there for me when I needed you the most and I???ll never forget it. I hope you???ll help me continue to fight for the issues and causes we believe in by filling out the enclosed form in support of Friends of Hillary.???

    The form says, ???I hereby verify that my 2008 general election contribution may be designated to the 2012 Senate election. I designate the entire amount to the 2012 primary election. However if I have already contributed to the 2012 primary, I designate any amount in excess of $2,300 to the 2012 general election.???

    ???If we do not hear back from you by August 28 2008 we will automatically refund your contribution.???

    This donor, at least, had no intention of signing. ???Of course I???m going to get my money back,??? the donor told me.

    From the PUMA site, but I am going to try to find a verifiable site regarding this. I am also going to post this on Obama's website. If this is true I am pissed, how dare she beg for money to clear up her debt but at the same time ask her donors if they will fund her 2012 election campaign. They should be the ones paying off her debt.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/15/2008 8:04:43 PM

      Comment: sjpersonal,
      I'm sorry to tell you this but I think you have contracted NINS' disease of compulsive cut and pasting.
      If anyone I thought you would be immune. But since you have invoked Hillary's name....I got an e-mail from her this past week.... it's not HER debt it's OUR debt! Not kidding. Shall we help pay OUR debt?
      Nah...



  • Posted By: LIKEITIS @ 07/15/2008 11:48:31 AM

    Comment: NOT THAT WHAT THE VIETNAMESE WHAT OR WISH FOR IS OF ANY IMPORTANCE AS FAR AS ANYTHING............................BUT THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE FOR MCAIN IS THAT THEY BELIEVE (WRONGLY I AM SURE) THAT MCAIN WILL TRY TO GO BACK AND REDO V/N LIKE BUSH DID IRAQ AFTER HIS DAD STOPPED SHORT OF FULL VICTORY!

  • Posted By: CHERIEIMH @ 07/15/2008 10:58:25 AM

    Comment: Also I am familiar with Ron Moreau and have met him... he would likely see only what he wants to see and hear only what he wants to hear. His reporting is biased and always has been. It's a cute story and it is not representative of my Vietnamese friends or family at all. Dream on Ron, dream on. Of course if you know the Vietnamese at all. Ron does then you know the kind of people they are but having lived for 30 years in Viet Nam and with the Vietnamese don't kid me. They don't know Obama, yet, but they will. He is a fine person and the people who bother to read the facts know it.

  • Posted By: CHERIEIMH @ 07/15/2008 10:56:25 AM

    Comment: During the war I was a US Nurse and living and working in the South of Viet Nam. In the 1980's I had a chance with an international organization to leave India where I was working with Mother Teresa and to move back to Viet Nam on a humanitarian project. The Vietnamese are just as they are depicted in this article and the US citizen's appear to be similar to the ones who posted just prior to me deciding to write. Narrow minded bigots comes to mind, as I think of the American posters. I have lived in viet Nam for nearly thirty years of my life. I am casting my vote for the American who will bring my country closer to the idealt hat I have for it. I will vote proudly for Senator Barack Obama and reject the idiot's who find your webiste and post comments that are so untrue that you know they cannot be reading your article's. God bless America

  • Posted By: CHERIEIMH @ 07/15/2008 10:55:40 AM

    Comment: During the war I was a US Nurse and living and working in the South of Viet Nam. In the 1980's I had a chance with an international organization to leave India where I was working with Mother Teresa and to move back to Viet Nam on a humanitarian project. The Vietnamese are just as they are depicted in this article and the US citizen's appear to be similar to the ones who posted just prior to me deciding to write. Narrow minded bigots comes to mind, as I think of the American posters. I have lived in viet Nam for nearly thirty years of my life. I am casting my vote for the American who will bring my country closer to the idealt hat I have for it. I will vote proudly for Senator Barack Obama and reject the idiot's who find your webiste and post comments that are so untrue that you know they cannot be reading your article's. God bless America and hello Hanoi Ben

  • Posted By: CHERIEIMH @ 07/15/2008 10:53:46 AM

    Comment: aa

  • Posted By: Dolores Fleming @ 07/15/2008 9:42:12 AM

    Comment: Hanoi Ben you may have lived in Hanoi six years but you didn't live in Hanoi at the time McCain was imprisoned there.The Hanoi people hopes he gets elected and so do i.The nurse that saved him from siver torture and took care of him hopes he gets the Presidency and so do i.McCain has been up in washington for years and knows the in and outs of what goes on there.Obama has been there Two Years and has even said with his big mouth that he never got into washington but he knew it needed a change.Goes to show you what a dumb ass he is.

  • Posted By: Dolores Fleming @ 07/15/2008 9:31:30 AM

    Comment: I am a born democrat and i will vote for McCain before i would vote for Obama,the dumb ass.He evidently was asleep when the trade centers were hit because he said the pilots of the planes werte caught and are now in jail,excuse me but those pilots were uncinerated not incarcerated.He must of been aseep when the trade centers were hit.It shows he knows nothing about this country.He has to relyon his advisors to tell him what to do.He reads from a teleprompter and it tell him what to say,hell he can'T even think for himself.

  • Posted By: Dolores Fleming @ 07/15/2008 9:15:19 AM

    Comment: How in the sam hill can Obama ever run this country>he doen't even know any thing about 9/II.he believes that the pilots of the planes were caught and are now iuncarcerated,they are incinerated.He belives we captured them and that they are now in jail,and he expects to run this country.Now way in hell will the people elect a black man to run this country.ESpecialy one that knows nothing about 9/11.where in the hell was he when the trade centers were hit.He has been up in washington about two and a half years and thinks he can run this country.No way in hell will the americn people elect him.He is what you would call a dumb ass.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/15/2008 7:06:16 AM

    Comment: 2001 Americans being Fools with Pandering,Lies,.... GW.Bush success of Politically by defeating Americans STUPIDITY............2004 Again insulting,FEARS AND LIES just another Peanut for him beating Americans Stupidity Pride......World Anti Americans World =Wide.......Cities in Europe Full of Graffies Of GW Bush moustache ala Hilter painted all over the Wall.....Americans NOT welcome any where in world they go...They Just a PARIAH to them.

  • Posted By: hanoi ben @ 07/15/2008 6:22:05 AM

    Comment: in fact, this story is so inaccurate that i am utterly flabbergasted to see it in print.

  • Posted By: hanoi ben @ 07/15/2008 6:16:47 AM

    Comment: i have lived in vietnam for six years and can assure you that this story is wildly inaccurate. it is true that many vietnamese know who mccain is, and that they forgive him and other americans for their actions during the war. but it is also true that many people idea have no idea who mccain is. and it is truer still that the vast majority of vietnamese, for obvious reasons, are fervently opposed to the iraq war. they would strongly oppose a mccain presidency based on his passionate support for the american intervention there. there is only one true american political hero in vietnam: bill clinton.

  • Posted By: hanoi ben @ 07/15/2008 6:13:52 AM

    Comment: i have lived in vietnam for six years and can assure you that this story is wildly inaccurate. while it is true that many vietnamese know who mccain is, and they forvige him and other americans for the war, there is not widespread support for a mccain presidency in vietnam. virtually every vietnamese i have ever met is profoundly opposed to the iraq war and would oppose mccain because he has supported it so passionately. the one and only american political hero in vietnam is bill clinton. the vietnamese love bill clinton.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/15/2008 4:09:43 AM

    Comment: Freddie Mac &Fannie Mae hold Debt US 5 trillion,The US government moved to shore up the beleaguered the companies by injecting 2.25 bilion ONLY through investment and loan. What a Joke.!!!!!!!...MC Bush & MCSame tells America Economic is SOUND.and SAFE.America now keep up all the to survives by BORROWING Trillion from other including once enemies country to keep the Fools in WARS and going on are kept secrets under Carpet,from American Public,DONT Worry Our Bank verge of Bankrupt so dont bother TAKE your money OUT....We guarantee..US100,000 but cost you 0.50Ct every dollar...Americans now face ONLY Mental Recession just like (John MCSame having Vietnam Mental treatments) and the AMERICANS are just whinners Bunch......GREAT REPUBLICAN POLITIC ANALYSIST.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/15/2008 4:05:03 AM

    Comment: Freddie Mac &Fannie Mae hold Debt US 5 trillion,The US government moved to shore up the beleaguered the companies by injecting 2.25 bilion ONLY through investment and loan. What a Joke.!!!!!!!...MC Bush & MCSame tells America Economic is SOUND.and SAFE.keeping all BORROWING from other country are kept secrets under Carpet.from American Public,DONT Worry Our Bank verge of Bankrupt so dont bother TAKE your money OUT....We guarantee..US100,000 but cost you 0.50Ct every dollar...Americans now face ONLY Mental Recession just like (John MCSame having Vietnam Mental treatments) and the AMERICANS are just whinners Bunch......GREAT REPUBLICAN POLITIC ANALYSIST.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/15/2008 4:04:47 AM

    Comment: Freddie Mac &Fannie Mae hold Debt US 5 trillion,The US government moved to shore up the beleaguered the companies by injecting 2.25 bilion ONLY through investment and loan. What a Joke.!!!!!!!...MC Bush & MCSame tells America Economic is SOUND.and SAFE.keeping all BORROWING from other country are kept secrets under Carpet.from American Public,DONT Worry Our Bank verge of Bankrupt so dont bother TAKE your money OUT....We guarantee..US100,000 but cost you 0.50Ct every dollar...Americans now face ONLY Mental Recession just like (John MCSame having Vietnam Mental treatments) and the AMERICANS are just whinners Bunch......GREAT REPUBLICAN POLITIC ANALYSIST.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/15/2008 4:02:18 AM

    Comment: Freddie Mac &Fannie Mae hold Debt US 5 trillion,The US government moved to shore up the beleaguered the companies by injecting 2.25 bilion ONLY through investment and loan. What a Joke.!!!!!!!...MC Bush & MCSame tells America Economic is SOUND.and SAFE.keeping all BARROWING from other country are kept secrets under Carpet.from American Public,DONT Worry Our Bank verge of Bankrupt so dont bother TAKE your money OUT....We guarantee..US100,000 but cost you payment 0.50Ct every dollar...Americans now face ONLY Mental Recession just like (John MCSame having Vietnam Mental treaments) and the AMERICANS are just whinners Bunch......GREAT REPUBLICAN POLITIC ANALYSIST.

  • Posted By: Btownbronco @ 07/15/2008 1:00:13 AM

    Comment: pinkpanther87413- you disgust me. I'm not normally a violent person but i wish i could slap you in the face. You say he just slipped through his time as a POW. What the hell do you know about what its like to be in that kind of situation. SLIDE THROUGH TORTURE??? You are truly pathetic.

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 07/14/2008 11:40:57 PM

    Comment: My captors were more careful not to permanently injure or disfigure me than they were with the other prisoners," he writes. As the son of a U.S. admiral, he was considered too valuable a propaganda asset
    From the article, and his own words, in his book!
    I guess it's not what you know, it''s who you know, that kept him alive. not courage, not discontent,distaste for the enemy, it was daddy. This I'm just finding out, and it has left a nasty taste in my mouth, to thnik of all the dead, so he could slide through cause of daddy! No wounder he wants the files to stay sealed!

  • Posted By: JOE_DICK @ 07/14/2008 9:26:00 PM

    Comment: DOES EVERYONE KNOWS THE TRUE STORY ABOUT "SONG BIRD MCCAIN" THAT'S WHAT THE VEITNAMESE CALLED HIM BACK THEN. THAT'S THE STORY NEWSWEEK SHOULD BE COVERING. ALSO THE 33 VIDEOS HE MADE FOR THEM ABOUT THE US!!

  • Posted By: Artmeat @ 07/14/2008 7:01:13 PM

    Comment: I heard Cindy McCain is going to raise the price of beer when she is first lady. Kind of an OPEC but BeerPEC.

  • Posted By: witrio @ 07/14/2008 5:27:13 PM

    Comment: Not at 72 they wouldn't. I think most people recognize that peoples ability start to deteriorate with age, not to mention all that he went through in Nam. You can't get into the military after a certain age, Why do you think that is??????????

  • Posted By: witrio @ 07/14/2008 5:21:09 PM

    Comment: Manchurian Candidate...nuf said

  • Posted By: Once you try to deceive @ 07/14/2008 4:07:47 PM

    Comment: Wow some story! But who cares what they think? If Newsweek wants to do a story, what about the boat people who were tossed out of VietNam and perished at sea?

  • Posted By: Zaragoz @ 07/14/2008 4:03:50 PM

    Comment: What Hypocrisy The same people that talk about John Mcain's age are the ones that would be knocking at your door if you even mention age during a job interview!

  • Posted By: VAChris@FC @ 07/14/2008 3:52:22 PM

    Comment: This is really something, who gives a hoot what the Vietnamese people want. I am really shocked they prefer Senator Mccain. Funny, really funny. Of course they will support him as a way to further seek his forgiveness for their years of emotional pain and torture during his POW time. Please give me better coverage, please. Newsweek should be beyond this kind of crap. What's next? Kenyans and Indonesians prefer Obama for president? Unreal!

  • Posted By: Kboogie @ 07/14/2008 3:27:28 PM

    Comment: http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm - The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides
    Former POW Fights Public Access to POW/MIA Files

    "But there was one subject that was off-limits, a subject the Arizona senator almost never brings up and has never been open about ??? his long-time opposition to releasing documents and information about American prisoners of war in Vietnam and the missing in action who have still not been accounted for. Since McCain himself, a downed Navy pilot, was a prisoner in Hanoi for 5 1/2 years, his staunch resistance to laying open the POW/MIA records has baffled colleagues and others who have followed his career. Critics say his anti-disclosure campaign, in close cooperation with the Pentagon and the intelligence community, has been successful. Literally thousands of documents that would otherwise have been declassified long ago have been legislated into secrecy."


    Hmmmm..... After being captured, he cooperates w/ the N. Vietnamese in spreading anti-US propaganda. He reveals military stategies and US troop locations. After release, he has his records sealed and leads an "anti-disclosure" campaign only affecting HIS files.

    Hmmmm.....Once in office, he increases Vietnamese funding by $10.5 billion.

    "Manchurian candidate".......................anyone?

    If I was Vietnamese, I'd vote for him, too!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: valark @ 07/14/2008 2:47:03 PM

    Comment: wow Sparky, you are so idiotic and a horrible liar, us here at work are having a great laugh at your posts, keep up the good work!

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 07/14/2008 8:07:29 PM

      Comment: where do you work....in a nut house..... no sounds to me you are in a nut house because what did I say thats a lie? us here at work...what a line..we will see who is idiotic come November 4th

  • Posted By: LDA76 @ 07/14/2008 2:43:18 PM

    Comment: Well this was an interesting article about what really happened while McCain was POW. That he knows what its like to suffer is undisputable. But for some reason I trust him less than I trust Obama. I personally wish Obama had the military experience McCain does, but I can't bring myself to vote Republican. Sorry. 8 years is too freaking long. And to be honest, I think Obama would make a better with diplomacy. McCain has already demonstrated flying off at the mouth....which is precisely what George W. did at the onset of this war.

    I was in the military too. Who knows, I may be drafted one day if things continue forever and ever (like I think they will). I want someone who isn't about wanting a new "Glory Day" from a failed past. Sorry, but being a POW means you failed your mission.

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 07/14/2008 3:28:30 PM

      Comment: Exactly!!

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/14/2008 2:40:01 PM

    Comment: G.W.BUSH year 2001 tactics of Pandering, bluffing and Fools the Americans ......Success.....Year 2004 tactics of FEARS and LIES ......Peanut.......So Expects the Same from the Republican Master of LIES,John MCsame try to elmulates so he EXPECTS American to be FOOLS again and again.

  • Posted By: sparky716 @ 07/14/2008 2:23:05 PM

    Comment: where's Liberman just look at the back side of McSame and you will see his head up McSames a**...wonder if the old man will be able to hold his temper in the debates

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/14/2008 2:09:39 PM

    Comment: John MCsame just grumpy Old Man same like many Rupukis here,What the hell going on here,I doesnt know what many Bloggers saying here!!! Where's Liberman??? Did I already send him to Belarus ??

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/14/2008 2:04:33 PM

    Comment: John MCain Grumpy OLD man doesnt knows ,wait a minute where is Liberman?Find Me that Guy,weither Im saying is Correct! Im total Lost Did I already send him to Belarus??

  • Posted By: klavigne @ 07/14/2008 1:37:00 PM

    Comment: Look who's talking about not being able to use a PC. And McCain has been in the Senate for over 30 years, Bush has been Pres for 71/2. How the hell did he vote the same as Bush 95% of the time? It's an impossibility. You people are idiots, get your facts right before you spout off at the mouth on issues you know nothing about!

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 07/14/2008 2:02:56 PM

      Comment: OK he's voted the republician party line 95% of the time and voted with bush 95% of the time...yes he's been in the senate for 30 years and did nothing...why do you think floks call him McSame...If your happy with bush (about 28%) and like things to stay the same then vote for McSame

  • Posted By: CauViet69 @ 07/14/2008 1:26:33 PM

    Comment: a nobody? I think not. i am a Nam viet. my brothers served. some died. some were wounded. some are scared for life. they are still my nam brothers and deserve my support. Not POLITICS just a simple "we were there together" . (Go tell the Spartans), And I rate hillary right along side jane fonda, , mao, ho chi and the other communists. PS I volunteered

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 07/14/2008 2:30:27 PM

      Comment: I Volunteered to and all service personel are brothers and sisters in arms, but there are a few of us left from days gone by who will always remain a nobody,ie: LIKE ME, not you. You all deserve far more than John Q Public gave you, and far more than i can say. I'm a tweener caught in the middle of a Not so Cold Wars of days. We were not suppoed to be there. No parents,no brothers, no family at all, ie: the best kind of tool, one with no one to miss, if not returning from? ooh rah! I ment no disrespect to you at all.

  • Posted By: CauViet69 @ 07/14/2008 1:01:57 PM

    Comment: his 5 years as pow gives him many reasons to vote for him. he knows suffering, he knows hunger, he knows how it feels to be at the mercy of the hands of the enemy, he knows torture and abuse, he knows what FREEDOM means and what it feels like to lose it, he has been in the Nam and knows War for what it really is not some liberal idiots rantings, many more examples I could say but the most important is that he has PROVED his rights as an American fighting man and desrves Our vote for that reason alone!

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/14/2008 4:22:34 PM

      Comment: Could someone explain to me how having your plane hit by a missle is the pilots fault. I've heard this comment over and over and I can't understand how that is McCain's fault.

    • Posted By: ebony @ 07/14/2008 2:42:40 PM

      Comment: Him serving in the military is no reason to vote him in as President! There are plenty of people that have served! McCain will destroy America! He is behind time and totally out of touch with the Anerican people! He is not the same McCain! It is time for hime to retire!

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 07/14/2008 2:13:06 PM

      Comment: Enter Your Comment he was a pow because he FAILED his mission and was shot down...his 5 years as a pow has affected his thinking...Vietnam is over ...I was in the US Navy from 1963-67 guess I should run for president to...there were many air men that flew there missions and returned home with there planes ...the only thing he PROVED is he wasnt much at flying a plane...he's to old and he's the past ....its time for a change what were doing now is not working at home or overseas OBAMA 08

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 07/14/2008 1:09:43 PM

      Comment: A hero does not a president make! If he knows, as YOU SAY then why his FLIP-FLOP on the support for Iraq WAR??? no,no,no ok, ok,ok yes it's a good war,mmmmm,moron! I served, and don't believe I'm worthy of your vote, just cause i served, and was and still am forgotten!!! A NOBODY!

    • Posted By: Wisconsin Voter @ 07/14/2008 1:09:31 PM

      Comment: NOT A CHANCE IN HELL! None of what you had to say makes you understand how to run a country.

      • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 07/14/2008 1:18:31 PM

        Comment: Me? I know I'm not fit to run a country, just cause i served, or deserving of anyones vote.

  • Posted By: retiredcop @ 07/14/2008 1:01:34 PM

    Comment: Who cares what these Vietnamese think about McCain, our election process or anything else. I served in Vietnam and I certainly don't.

    • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 07/14/2008 1:05:10 PM

      Comment: well put thank you [no insult] honest reply!

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 07/14/2008 12:56:07 PM

    Comment: Now they see the huge profits in Americas outsourcing and want to be a country we use to do so. So again what good is it?? Greed, as it was when they wanted money for POWs and MIAs,show me the money is there credo and has been from day one. Well at least Phol Pot died in Saudi a few back, so his wall of skulls can be a tourist attraction??? Not to mention Herion use was at .001% before we opened relations up again, now it at 15% and growing,mmm, wounder why, is the trail open again,Mr CIA?? Why McCain, cause he will REFUSE to see this till it's to late, and 20% of American companies are based there to dodge American taxes, like waterboarding, global warming, it's not real??? Gee by the looks of this, if Bin-Lauden wanted to vote, he would vote for McCain too, thus big news on the political front. More people in the world want McCain, but they are all the bad guys! So i guess it's ok to follow them blindly, as Americans hu?? Sounds like the same bull they used to broadcast to demoralize our troops, in Nam, Korea,WWII,WWI, doesn't take a moron to connect the dots! AGAIN!

  • Posted By: kauffner @ 07/14/2008 12:37:45 PM

    Comment: I live in Saigon and can I tell you that this article is nonsense. Ordinary Vietnamese know very little about McCain and they certainly don't "love" him. The U.S. election converage here has focused on the Hillary vs Obama battle. I think the official press doesn't know quite what to say about McCain, so they don't say much. When Vietnamese find out I am American, the next question is often who will I vote for. I tell them both candidates are so terrible that I don't understand why people are voting for either one.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/14/2008 12:04:40 PM

    Comment: Americans Loves the Country going BURST instead of Truth.....Great !!! many American Financial Instuitions going to be Burst More NEWS comming soon..........VOTE for literate and Uneducated John MC Cain.America going in DRAIN Year by Year.....

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/14/2008 11:55:31 AM

    Comment: John MCCain dont Know hOW to Operate a PC...NOT a Problem.NO big DEAL...THE LOBBYIST IS GOING TO DO JUST THAT FOR HIM.

  • Posted By: benvictor @ 07/14/2008 10:30:38 AM

    Comment: Vietnam wants President McCain, but the international community does too, except for the MidEast that would be engaged under McCain to seek peace with Israel and actively terminate its terrorism. Of course, America will vote for John because of his long and dedicated service to the United States of America. We see in John peace, prosperity, and security for our Nation and the world.

    • Posted By: Wisconsin Voter @ 07/14/2008 1:15:07 PM

      Comment: Your a RepubliCult! You say with McWar we would have peace, well this is how two-faced RepubliCultist are. McWAR IS WILLING TO HAVE 100 YEARS OF WAR!

    • Posted By: sparky716 @ 07/14/2008 11:55:19 AM

      Comment: now the big flip floper wants to take our Social Security....john says he's for war(100 years in Iraq) and says the economy is his weak suite he did not do his job in Vietnam (got shot down)...has lots to hide ...nope I think America is ready for a change...the old ways don't work and the old man (72) has no new ideas in his LONG AND DEDICATED SERVICE to the United States he's done nothing ....he has 29 years odf nothing..just votes the way bush wants him to...he's not a maverick he's voted with bush 95% of the time...some maverick...

  • Posted By: ConspiracyTheory @ 07/14/2008 10:10:03 AM

    Comment: This is about the biggest piece of propaganda I have ever seen from MSNBC. McCain would make a worse President than Bush.

  • Posted By: mjno @ 07/14/2008 9:49:59 AM

    Comment: What the media does not report is that McCain is compassionate, kind human being.

    • Posted By: Wisconsin Voter @ 07/14/2008 1:18:27 PM

      Comment: Ya he was all kind when he called his second wife a C---.

      He wants to kindly shoot people for 100 years.

    • Posted By: ozarkajuice @ 07/14/2008 10:51:00 AM

      Comment: Or that mccain left his 1st wife when she became disabled for a rich lady also left his 3 children.. your right, MCCAIN IS SUCH A NICE HUMAN BEING.

      • Posted By: loriw @ 07/14/2008 4:29:12 PM

        Comment: I don't think he left his children, I think he continued to be involved in their lives.
        Infidility seems to be epidemic in high level politicians and I think it is shameful every time.
        But at least McCain did not lie about it to the American people.
        His wife holds no grudges regarding the marriage so is this really a big issue in the big picture of things?

        • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 07/14/2008 7:41:34 PM

          Comment: His first wife knew he had fallen in love with another woman and was leaving her so what good would it do to hold grudges? We haven't a clue how much he hurt her and their children but he got what he wanted.

          • Posted By: loriw @ 07/14/2008 8:17:59 PM

            Comment: It amazes me how many democrats looked the other way when Bill Clinton was cheating on Hillary (and lying about it I might add )but now they want to crucify McCain for doing it. Hypocrits.

            • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 07/15/2008 12:01:31 AM

              Comment: loriw: Bill Clinton got caught out and both Clintons suffered public humiliation. Not enough for you?

              • Posted By: loriw @ 07/16/2008 2:08:05 AM

                Comment: Since you asked, NO. They do not deserve another chance to be in the White House. The President represents us to the world and Clinton made a mockery of the office. Hillary should have Bill to keep it zipped up in his pants long before they got to the White House. Also, I would like them to give back all the items they stole from the White House as they left. Those items belonged to the American people not to the Clintons.

  • Posted By: Obama Drama @ 07/14/2008 9:44:17 AM

    Comment: Newsweek shold just call its self OBAMAWEEK.

    • Posted By: jwaldrup @ 07/14/2008 1:16:58 PM

      Comment: What has Obama done to any of you that you hate him so. At the rate of your hate any crackpot out there could try to kill the man or his wife at anytime. Is this what you all are aiming for.Do not vot for him if you do not want, but hate that is a very strong evil word. You say Obama is dangerous, I wonder who is more so.

  • Posted By: ndrock @ 07/14/2008 9:09:09 AM

    Comment: Something seriously wrong? You bet, and it isn't McCain! It is this Hollywood mag rag called Newsweek. Ever thing they print about McCain has a negative slant to it, and everything they print about Obama has a BIG POSTIVE SLANT to it. They try to disguise it, by interviewing people from counties like North Vietnam who have nothing but good things to say about McCain giving the impression of McCain maybe having made "friends" when he was imprisoned. Golly-Gee, I am so confused, I wonder who Newsweek is backing in this presidential election!!

    • Posted By: Yuseff @ 07/14/2008 1:56:52 PM

      Comment: This article doesn't have a negative slant. I think it shows McCain as a forgiving man gracious to his former captors. He trumpets his sojourn in Vietnam at times and yet is recluse about it at times. I think this shows that he is a nuanced man, not like the simple minded George Bush.

  • Posted By: Big_House @ 07/14/2008 9:07:10 AM

    Comment: I read the the article and it was interesting. However, I had a problem with the title of the Article. Why Vietnam loves McCain? The two guests on the cover of this article don't represent all of Vietnam! The title of this article should have been, "why some in Vietnam Love McCain"! The title of this article appears that all of "Vietnam Love McCain"!





  • Posted By: onepatriot @ 07/14/2008 8:46:25 AM

    Comment: Lets see, Mc Cain, Mc Bush, now Mc Joke

    • Posted By: curryjm @ 07/14/2008 10:55:42 AM

      Comment: All this playing on McCain's name is rather infantile. You don't see anyone playing with Barack Obama's name. That's because his middle name says it all.

    • Posted By: MeLizzard2 @ 07/14/2008 10:11:10 AM

      Comment: Who is McBush? Never heard of him. mcCain & Bush have sparred and competed regularly over the years. Go do your homework and stop spewing MSNBC soundbites. You sound shallow and ignorant.

      • Posted By: ozarkajuice @ 07/14/2008 10:47:29 AM

        Comment: sounds like the person needing to their home work is your Melizzards. You are correct that MCcain sparred with Bush many times on issues. but guess what, those issues they sparred in the past, he now agrees with bush . so can we say MCFLOPPER?

        • Posted By: Dr. Snort @ 07/14/2008 11:23:35 AM

          Comment: Ozarkajuice:

          That would be some issues not all. Speaking of flopping, Barry's does too (gun control, public financing...)...he's a politician true and blue and moving towards the center. Plus you gotta love Barry's 143 days of senate experience.

  • Posted By: tmservo @ 07/14/2008 8:37:13 AM

    Comment: Second article where Vietnamese deny any torture. Since we have more then 260 returned vets & civilians, some with significant injury, and numerous who died in those camps, it's good to know Newsweek has no problem encouraging conspiracy freaks and allowing denial of such an event. What next, holocaust deniers get a full page? And what Vietnam wants in the election isn't relevent. Suprise: Vietnam has no electoral votes.

  • Posted By: tmservo @ 07/14/2008 8:35:30 AM

    Comment: There is something seriously wrong with giving so much time to Vietnam's view of McCain. The denial of torture is common there; but more then 250 men & women, military and civilians, were returned from POW imprisonment and we know first hand through them and their injuries the reality of torture that occurred there. Second article now where Vietnam gets to deny any torture. Way to become a propaganda platform!

  • Posted By: Music Lover @ 07/14/2008 8:19:42 AM

    Comment: Oh yeah - the guy who continues to say that he hates "gooks" will be a great friend to Vietnam. Did anybody actually research this topic, or does that no longer matter to Newsweek?

  • Posted By: bluesgutter @ 07/14/2008 8:19:14 AM

    Comment: By all means, if the country of VietNam wants McCain to win then McCain should obviously be President. After all, there is a little known codicle in the US Constitution that states if a Communist country has a preference about who should be President of the United States and their preference differs from the US voters, that the Communist country superceedes the wishes of the Americasn people. That is why this story is so groundbreaking.

    • Posted By: MeLizzard2 @ 07/14/2008 10:08:26 AM

      Comment: So, what is revealed about Obama when all of the terrorist-sponsoring countries are pulling hard for his victory?

  • Posted By: bluesgutter @ 07/14/2008 8:12:05 AM

    Comment: If I remember correctly, these aee all of the people McCain calls "guuks" in his autobiography and has nothing for disdain for them.

  • Posted By: prt1231 @ 07/14/2008 7:54:41 AM

    Comment: John McCain wants to win the war in Vietnam...only now it's called Iraq. He is an old man who has no clue that the war in Vietnam is over...and we lost. He also can not accept that the war in Iraq is a failure. He will continue with GWB's failed policy and kill more american for nothing. McCain=Bush Lite.

    And no one cares about Vietnam...let them eat their fish cakes in peace.

  • Posted By: davidstoesz @ 07/14/2008 7:16:01 AM

    Comment: "Just about everyone in Vietnam agrees. " Wow, reporting at its finest. No polling data, purely anecdotal evidence, and bald, unsupported assertions.

    Funny how the Pew Reserach poll found that other countries overwhelmingly prefer Obama.

  • Posted By: davidstoesz @ 07/14/2008 7:13:33 AM

    Comment: Hey, I've got an idea! Let's have a story about how an entire country wants a particular candidate to win the American presidency, and offer no hard evidence whatsoever, other than a reporter's bald assertion that "just about everyone in Vietnam agrees."

  • Posted By: pissed-off @ 07/14/2008 7:07:04 AM

    Comment: stop now this is bribery hey where were they last election or the one before just a another bunch of bigot's

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/14/2008 12:31:47 PM

      Comment: Where were who and what bribery are you refering to and who are the bigots????????????????

  • Posted By: sonhoi @ 07/14/2008 7:00:08 AM

    Comment: No other countries treat the prison as bad as Vietnam. They are responsible to the death of hundred thousands Vietnamese people who were put in what they called "Re-education" camp. They tortured them and the way they did it that make what the CIA waterboarding like a joke (and the american human right groups cried out for when we try this on the terrorists). They starving them and made them work like animal. Thousands of people never made and their remain were tossed somewhere in the jungle where the camp located at.

  • Posted By: master padma @ 07/14/2008 2:38:47 AM

    Comment: And one more thing: The fact of the matter is that we treated the NVA and Vietcong POWs no better than they treated ours. The only difference is that the North Vietnamese have forgiven us, and we have a hard time doing the same.

    • Posted By: master padma @ 07/14/2008 4:29:28 AM

      Comment: The other thing tom remember: The only poeple obssesed with a war that ended 40 years afo are the Americans. and maybe the French and Australians The Vietnamese find our obsession a noverlty, a novelty threy can exploit for tourist dollers. Otherwise, they live, they move forwaad, they let go. We are the obsessed ones, grasping and clinging after a fale salvation. The locals are free in a way wee cannot understand, and have suffered in a way that only allows for release in the mosy elemental way, You dig?

      • Posted By: joe_mama @ 07/14/2008 7:05:12 AM

        Comment: That's because we lost....

        ...DUHHHH!

  • Posted By: master padma @ 07/14/2008 2:36:44 AM

    Comment: Speaking as a person whojust returned from six weeks in Vietnam, I can say with someauthority, the people in Vietnam, just like the people in the rest of the world,by and large, are pulling for Obama. This story is a crock.

  • Posted By: bajan man @ 07/14/2008 1:47:13 AM

    Comment: THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE McCAIN REFERS TO AS "GOOKS."

  • Posted By: dotheresearch @ 07/14/2008 12:27:32 AM

    Comment: This article has no relevance in our presidential election. As noted, these folks are not registered voters. Of course they identify with McCain. He was a guest of theirs for over 5 years.

    On another note, would any republican candidate not be associated with Bush. You don't attempt to evaluate McCain on his own merits. You go along and pick a non-republican candidate who probably doesn't even know where Vietnam is. Heck he probably doesn't know where S.Side Chicago. Hate Bush all you want but it wasn't McCain who failed the aftermath of this invasion or was part of this invasion plan. It was the civilains that are now gone who failed the Amercian people by not listening to the generals in our Armed Forces. At least McCain has gone to sand box and talked with our military members. That's why he was knowledgeable enough to concur with the surge because he knew what our military needs. When's Obama gonna do that? Only when the cameras are there and only after he was called out by McCain.

    So stop wasting typespace and go do some research.

    • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 07/14/2008 1:40:42 AM

      Comment: Come on, lighten up! This is a human interest story; I found it interesting and it is relevant what people who tortured and helped McCain have to say about him. I thought this article was great.

      There is no way in hell I'd vote for him but the man lived in solitary confinement for two years (on average the worst a US inmate gets is 30 days) and only then relented, that says something about the strong mettle of the man behind the really crappy candidate.

      • Posted By: dotheresearch @ 07/14/2008 9:18:04 AM

        Comment: So as not to favor the republican candidate, why doesn't Newsweek do an article titled "Why Muslim countries want Obama as President?" That way we can show that American people are weak, soft, and want to go back to the days of Carter and Clinton. Back to the days where terrorists could push America around. They'll probably afraid that if Obama was elected, they'd be subjected to "Death by Diplomacy" Better run back to the Pakistani mountains and hope fake Allah will save them from the dreaded Diplomacy.

  • Posted By: dotheresearch @ 07/14/2008 12:25:32 AM

    Comment: This article has no relevance in our presidential election. As noted, these folks are not registered voters. Of course they identify with McCain. He was a guest of theirs for over 5 years.

    On another note, would any republican candidate not be associated with Bush. You don't attempt to evaluate McCain on his own merits. You go along and pick a non-republican candidate who probably doesn't even know where Vietnam is. Heck he probably doesn't know where S.Side Chicago. Hate Bush all you want but it wasn't McCain who failed the aftermath of this invasion or was part of this invasion plan. It was the civilains that are now gone who failed the Amercian people by not listening to the generals in our Armed Forces. At least McCain has gone to sand box and talked with our military members. That's why he was knowledgeable enough to concur with the surge because he knew what our military needs. When's Obama gonna do that? Only when the cameras are there and only after he was called out by McCain.

    So stop wasting typespace and go do some research.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/14/2008 2:07:51 PM

      Comment: "he was a guest of theirs for over 5 years" A GUEST? You make it sound like being a POW is like a vacation in a villa over seas. That comment disrespects any one that was a POW. How about you do the research and be a POW and see if you feel like a GUEST!

      • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 07/14/2008 5:13:36 PM

        Comment: Lucky he got out alive. Anyhow, he says he hates the 'gooks' and always will. Whatever he suffered in Vietnam, it doesn't qualify him to be president. And to this day Americans can't give a good reason for being in Vietnam.

  • Posted By: aaabbbccc @ 07/14/2008 12:11:01 AM

    Comment: All I got to say is that you guys are ignorant. This guy is an American Hero who would sacrifice himself for his country and this is what you say about him? What have you guys ever done for your country? Oh yeah I forgot, it's what your country can do for you not what you can do for your country.

  • Posted By: aaabbbccc @ 07/14/2008 12:10:02 AM

    Comment: All I got to say is that you guys are ignorant. This guy is an American Hero who would sacrifice himself for his country and this is what you say about him? What have you guys ever done for your country? Oh yeah I forgot, it's what your country can do for you not what you can do for your country.

  • Posted By: PHXPHD @ 07/13/2008 11:10:32 PM

    Comment: So let John McCain got to Vietnam and STAY THERE.....that sounds great to me.... beats having another BUSHIE in the White HOUSE and another 4 years of recession and war.... I will help pay for that trip if he promises to take Bush and Cheney with him and for them never to come back!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: nobushthirdterm.com @ 07/13/2008 10:27:07 PM

    Comment: OTFLMAO! "I totally refute any accusation of abuse or torture of the prisoners," Duyet tells NEWSWEEK at his mango-shaded house in Haiphong." So... no POW torture in Vietnam What *was* McCain smoking? Wow, that's a lot like McCain saying we aren't torturing at Guantanamo. The irony is delicious.

    McCain = Bush's Third Term!
    nobushthirdterm.com

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/13/2008 10:11:50 PM

    Comment:

    Why does McCain still deny that the Soviets were
    involved in the interrogation of U.S. POWs in Vietnam?

    Does McCain's former interrogators, the communist
    Vietnamese, Russians, Chinese and Cubans have anything
    in their secret intelligence files about his behavior
    as a prisoner with which they could blackmail a
    President John McCain?



  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/13/2008 10:11:00 PM

    Comment:

    McCain was once treated for Posttraumatic Stress
    Disorder (PTSD) which is said to get worse over time
    for former POWs, what is the status of his treatment?

    Does McCain still harbor stress triggered suicidal
    tendencies?

    Where was McCain and what was happening to him during
    the months he was missing from the POW camp?



  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/13/2008 10:09:50 PM

    Comment:

    McCain's Campaign ad says he refused early release.

    Actually Vietnam Vets tell a different story

    News pundants have elevated McCain to "the most
    popular national political figure in the country" by
    repeatedly describing him as a "war hero" based on his
    refusal accept a communist offer of "early release"
    from captivity.

    What the media has carelessly refused to acknowledge
    is that the camp's senior ranking U.S. POW (SRO) had
    issued unquestionable orders that if a POW was to be
    released, "it would be the longest held prisoner"
    Because McCain was not the longest held POW, he would
    have faced a military court-marshal if he had accepted
    the offer.


  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/13/2008 10:06:53 PM

    Comment:

    In 1949 Dr. Andrew Salter authored Conditioned Reflex
    Therapy, a pioneering work in the field of
    psychoanalysis. Ten years later, as Richard Condon was
    writing The Manchurian Candidate, he asked Dr. Salter
    to help "design" the brainwashed character for the
    book and subsequent movie.

    More than 40 years later, in 1992, during the C-SPAN
    broadcasts of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA
    Affairs, Dr. Salter watched the hearings from his New
    York City apartment. Salter became fascinated with
    McCain's overly aggressive and angry behavior toward
    witnesses, especially family members of men still
    missing in action. After a few hours he called a
    friend telling her, "the signs are all there, I'm
    afraid Senator John McCain has been brainwashed."

    During the Senate Select hearings, McCain opposed all
    efforts by the POW/MIA families and activists to have
    the Select Committee expand its investigation to study
    how successful the Vietnamese, Soviet, Chinese and
    Cuban interrogation apparatuses were at exploiting
    American prisoners of war.


  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/13/2008 10:06:14 PM

    Comment:

    McCain has resisted any kind of war crimes
    investigation of his former Vietnamese torturers.
    Prosecution and subsequent trials could bring to
    justice the Vietnamese torturers known by the American
    POWs as the Bug, Slopehead, the Prick, the Soft Soap
    Fairy, Rabbit, the Cat, Zorba and many others who were
    responsible for the murder in North Vietnam of at
    least 55 U.S. POWs and the brutal torture of hundreds
    of others.

    In November 1991, Tracy Usry, chief investigator of
    the Minority Staff of the U.S. Senate Foreign
    Relations Committee, testified before the Senate
    Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, that the Soviets
    interrogated U.S. prisoners of war in Vietnam. McCain
    became outraged, interrupting Usry several times,
    arguing that "none of the returned U.S. prisoners of
    war released by Vietnam were ever interrogated by the
    Soviets."

    Former KGB Maj. Gen. Oleg Kalugin testified during the
    hearings that the KGB did interrogate U.S. POWs in
    Vietnam. Kalugin stated that one of the POWs worked on
    by the KGB was a "high-ranking naval officer," who,
    according to Kalugin, agreed to work with the Soviets
    upon his repatriation to the United States and has
    frequently appeared on U.S. television.

    Col. Bui Tin, a former Senior Colonel in the North
    Vietnamese Army, testified on the same day, but after
    Usry, that because of his high position in the
    Communist Party during the war he had the authority to
    "read all documents and secret telegrams from the
    politburo" pertaining to American prisoners of war. He
    said that not only did the Soviets interrogate some
    American prisoners of war, but that they treated the
    Americans very badly.

    McCain stunned onlookers at the hearing when he moved
    to the witness table and physically embraced Col. Tin
    as if he was a long, lost brother.



  • Posted By: IronSoldier @ 07/13/2008 10:00:42 PM

    Comment: w

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/13/2008 9:10:51 PM

    Comment:

    Incomes rose only at the top

    Average Annual Income

    The Vast Majority-----The Rich------------- The Super Rich



    2005------------ 270 million-------- 3million-------------------- 30,000

    Average
    Income 1975 $29.968--- $359,501------- $ 3,430,164

    1985 $29,210--- $533,401------- $ 9,414,999

    1995 $27,614--- $654,057------- $10,574,657

    2005 $29,143 $1,111,560 $25,726,965

    Change After
    30 Years (825) (752,058) (22,296,801)

    Percentage
    Change (3%) (209%) (650%)

    Some people as a result of the
    Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush Economic policies are doing
    well

    "EXTREMELY WELL&