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Why Vietnam Loves McCain

They jailed him for five years. Now they want him in the White House.

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  • Posted By: AtheistFirebrand @ 08/02/2008 11:34:35 PM

    This discussion, and any discussion on Vietnam for that matter, is mired in myth and bias. To date, America is unable to cooly analyze this part of its history, which started as a myth, caused unimaginable suffering on all sides, and then -- grotesquely -- perpetuated itself beyond any recognition of objective as well as moral truth. The original Newsweek story and the ensuing "debate" are so transparently inundated with bizarre archetypes that it doesn't matter what anyone says.

  • Posted By: winemaster2 @ 07/23/2008 7:21:57 AM

    The bigger question is that Lt. Commander John Sidney McCain the third only flew no more then 25 hours of combat mission bombing mostly civilian targets in Hanoi and other parts of N. Vietnam and yet the US Navy and DOD decorated him with 28 medals. His earlier merits and record is that he graduated $486 out 0f 489 in his class at the Naval Academy. His class mates contend, that his graduation was a favor to his heritage of being a son and grand son of admirals. During McCain's naval aviator training, he destroyed four aircraft, unprecedented in Naval History. The first incident was when he over shot the runway at his base and ended up in the gulf of Mexico. The second time Mexico.Thesecond time when ThsssThesecond time, when flying

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 07/18/2008 2:34:46 PM

    Nations around the World including Germany are Excited to See Barack Obama.....

    Watch the Masses in each Country, that come out to see this Man...Watch and See !!

    Visiting Countries is not something you have to EARN...If that were the Case, what was John McCain doing in Columbia or Mexico ...Hmmmm as well as Visiting Iraq an confusing Shia & Sunni for Muslim Extremist or Al-Queda !!

    McCain Scolds obama on not visiting Iraq, yet has Not Visited Afghanistan, in Over 2 Years !!

    Yet McCain says "He Knows how to Win Wars" when in Fact, McCain has NEVER been Involved in a Successful War Campaign as a Naval Pilot or having a War Strategy or Formula Implemented...Ever

    So Much for McCain's "War Experience" and his "Knowledge On Winning Wars"

    I Did'nt know that Viet Nam was a Successful War Effort ? I thought we Lost that War and thats why the Viet Nam Nation is Still (Communist)

    Note: And in Spite of it all, The USA still does Big Business in, Still Very Communist, Yet Now Capitalist .....Viet Nam !!!

    McCain went to London, No Hoopla !!

    McCain also went to Iraq under... Heavily Gaurded & Armed Security.

    Though McCain Lied to Wolf Blitzer and said, a Person could Walk the Streets without Security and that general Patraeus wealks the streets without Heavily Armed Security, until the following day, General Patraeus Staff Dispelled Such BLATANT & FLAGRANT LIES !!

    This International Tour will Expose how Popular this Man (Obama) is All Around the World and Mccain, His Surrogates, his Rep. Party and John McCain, Can't Stand it, because it Exposes the World's Embrace of a Fresh and New American Visionary Leader.

    Note: D'Mitry Medvedev is only (42 yrs. Old) and is a Highly Educated Lawyer, with No Military or KGB Background, yet he is Russia's New President.

    Barack is 46

    So much for John McCain's "Military Experience"

    That Experience is going to be put to the TEST in November...Wheres the Experience John...

    How many LIVES in Viet Nam, did you SAVE...War Heroe...

    How much Classified Information, did you Devulge, to the Viet Cong... John

    George W. Bush Jr. what Military Experience did he have ?

    So Much for "Military Experience"

    Bah Hum Bug !!!

    Jim Webb & Wesley Clarke...Real Viet Nam Heroes...

    John McCain: Graduated Last in his Class, No Military Command in Viet Nam, 6 Wrecked Planes, Air Plane Shot Down, Becomes a VIET NAM POW, Semi-Tortured an when the Viet Cong, realized they had a Navy Admirals son, they gave him Special Treatment, Mccain Devulged Classified Information to the Enemy and those same Jailers in Viet Nam Endorse him Today...

    Things that make you go....Hmmmmm

  • Posted By: getzel @ 07/17/2008 4:37:11 PM

    IF ONLY NEWSWEEK HAD ANY CREDIBILITY. YOU COULD JUST AS EASY MAKE UP A STORY WITH THE OPPOSITE THEME. LIKE I BELIEVE NEWSWEEK HAS A RANDOM SAMPLE OF VIETNAMESE FEELINGS ON MCCANN. OBUMER.

  • Posted By: wasp5a @ 07/17/2008 4:25:47 PM

    I found the article on Why Vietnam likes McCain a great fantasy. I just returned from a four week trip to Southeast Asia including over a week in Vietnam (Hanoi and Saigon). Everywhere I went everyone was very up on the American political race. Without any exception, I found ALL women preferred Hillary (this was prior to the end of the campaign). On a river in the back roads west of Hanoi, a canoe of high school girls pulled along side to ask "what about Pennsylvania?" Everywhere we went: (Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Cambodia) everyone we met had an opinion and NOT one person supported McCain. In fact, many expressed fear of him and remember his comments about leaving Vietnam too soon. BTW: Vietnam today is much of what we fought to achieve, -- freedom of information (CNN and world papers are readily available on the street), freedom to travel (except the US puts limits on Vietnamese visiting here), ownership of property, open worship of religion including Christianity (there is a beautiful, huge new Catholic Church/cathederal just north of Hanoi). Too many older Vietnamese they view McCain as we do terroists in this country. Here was a man shot down while bombing non military and mostly civilian targets and rice fields. (Shouldnt we have learned by now that "shock and awe' on increases the determination of those recipients? The younger generation is a lot less angry at the US. They have had two wars since "The American War" -- against the Khemer Rouge and against China so like many Americans those earlier wars were a different generation.

  • Posted By: master padma @ 07/17/2008 2:45:58 AM

    The issue with most of these comments is they assume the Vietnamese people are somehow less intelligent, less mature, less thoughtful than Americans. The Vietnamese I know are just as well informed as the Americans--probably more so because they are not subjected to Fox.

  • Posted By: Dan Rabbit @ 07/16/2008 1:59:46 PM

    I was in Vietnam this spring for 3 weeks with my school. We traveled from HCMC to Hanoi. I had a discussion with a group of university students called Saigon Hotpot who give excellent free tours in exchange for the chance to practice English with Americans. I was asked who I supported and I told them Obama. They expressed a preference for Hillary because of her husband's policies toward Vietnam and their horror that McCain might win. I did not have time to ask what bothered them about McCain so I could only speculate. While my conversation was only with a few students in one city and not a scientific poll, it does represent a Vietnamese opinion that is at odds with the author of this article.

  • Posted By: Dan Rabbit @ 07/16/2008 1:58:07 PM

    I was in Vietnam this spring for 3 weeks with my school. We traveled from HCMC to Hanoi. I had a discussion with a group of university students called Saigon Hotpot who give excellent free tours in exchange for the chance to practice English with Americans. I was asked who I supported and I told them Obama. They expressed a preference for Hillary because of her husband's policies toward Vietnam and their horror that McCain might win. I did not have time to ask what bothered them about McCain so I could only speculate. While my conversation was only with a few students in one city and not a scientific poll, it does represent a Vietnamese opinion that is at odds with the author of this article.

  • Posted By: skagway @ 07/16/2008 10:45:48 AM

    Is Manchuria in Vietnam?

  • Posted By: mjno @ 07/14/2008 9:49:59 AM

    What the media does not report is that McCain is compassionate, kind human being.

    • Posted By: ozarkajuice @ 07/14/2008 10:51:00 AM

      Or that mccain left his 1st wife when she became disabled for a rich lady also left his 3 children.. your right, MCCAIN IS SUCH A NICE HUMAN BEING.

      • Posted By: loriw @ 07/14/2008 4:29:12 PM

        I don't think he left his children, I think he continued to be involved in their lives.
        Infidility seems to be epidemic in high level politicians and I think it is shameful every time.
        But at least McCain did not lie about it to the American people.
        His wife holds no grudges regarding the marriage so is this really a big issue in the big picture of things?

        • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 07/14/2008 7:41:34 PM

          His first wife knew he had fallen in love with another woman and was leaving her so what good would it do to hold grudges? We haven't a clue how much he hurt her and their children but he got what he wanted.

          • Posted By: loriw @ 07/14/2008 8:17:59 PM

            It amazes me how many democrats looked the other way when Bill Clinton was cheating on Hillary (and lying about it I might add )but now they want to crucify McCain for doing it. Hypocrits.

            • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 07/15/2008 12:01:31 AM

              loriw: Bill Clinton got caught out and both Clintons suffered public humiliation. Not enough for you?

              • Posted By: loriw @ 07/16/2008 2:08:05 AM

                Since you asked, NO. They do not deserve another chance to be in the White House. The President represents us to the world and Clinton made a mockery of the office. Hillary should have Bill to keep it zipped up in his pants long before they got to the White House. Also, I would like them to give back all the items they stole from the White House as they left. Those items belonged to the American people not to the Clintons.

    • Posted By: Wisconsin Voter @ 07/14/2008 1:18:27 PM

      Ya he was all kind when he called his second wife a C---.

      He wants to kindly shoot people for 100 years.

  • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/15/2008 6:09:48 PM

    Clinton is asking for money, not to retire her debt but to add to her 2012 campaign fund. Read below.

    Has any of you received an email like this one?

    Hillary Clinton Asks To Keep Donor Money for 2012
    July 14, 2008
    By Jason Horowitz

    Hillary Clinton???s campaign is sending out letters to donors asking permission to roll a $2,300 contribution to Clinton???s 2008 general election coffers to her 2012 senate election fund instead of offering a refund.

    The letter, read to me by one recipient, includes a photocopy of a handwritten note from Clinton that says, ???Dear friend, your commitment has meant so much to me over the course of my presidential campaign. You were there for me when I needed you the most and I???ll never forget it. I hope you???ll help me continue to fight for the issues and causes we believe in by filling out the enclosed form in support of Friends of Hillary.???

    The form says, ???I hereby verify that my 2008 general election contribution may be designated to the 2012 Senate election. I designate the entire amount to the 2012 primary election. However if I have already contributed to the 2012 primary, I designate any amount in excess of $2,300 to the 2012 general election.???

    ???If we do not hear back from you by August 28 2008 we will automatically refund your contribution.???

    This donor, at least, had no intention of signing. ???Of course I???m going to get my money back,??? the donor told me.

    From the PUMA site, but I am going to try to find a verifiable site regarding this. I am also going to post this on Obama's website. If this is true I am pissed, how dare she beg for money to clear up her debt but at the same time ask her donors if they will fund her 2012 election campaign. They should be the ones paying off her debt.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/15/2008 8:04:43 PM

      sjpersonal,
      I'm sorry to tell you this but I think you have contracted NINS' disease of compulsive cut and pasting.
      If anyone I thought you would be immune. But since you have invoked Hillary's name....I got an e-mail from her this past week.... it's not HER debt it's OUR debt! Not kidding. Shall we help pay OUR debt?
      Nah...



  • Posted By: CHERIEIMH @ 07/15/2008 10:58:25 AM

    Also I am familiar with Ron Moreau and have met him... he would likely see only what he wants to see and hear only what he wants to hear. His reporting is biased and always has been. It's a cute story and it is not representative of my Vietnamese friends or family at all. Dream on Ron, dream on. Of course if you know the Vietnamese at all. Ron does then you know the kind of people they are but having lived for 30 years in Viet Nam and with the Vietnamese don't kid me. They don't know Obama, yet, but they will. He is a fine person and the people who bother to read the facts know it.

  • Posted By: CHERIEIMH @ 07/15/2008 10:56:25 AM

    During the war I was a US Nurse and living and working in the South of Viet Nam. In the 1980's I had a chance with an international organization to leave India where I was working with Mother Teresa and to move back to Viet Nam on a humanitarian project. The Vietnamese are just as they are depicted in this article and the US citizen's appear to be similar to the ones who posted just prior to me deciding to write. Narrow minded bigots comes to mind, as I think of the American posters. I have lived in viet Nam for nearly thirty years of my life. I am casting my vote for the American who will bring my country closer to the idealt hat I have for it. I will vote proudly for Senator Barack Obama and reject the idiot's who find your webiste and post comments that are so untrue that you know they cannot be reading your article's. God bless America

  • Posted By: CHERIEIMH @ 07/15/2008 10:55:40 AM

    During the war I was a US Nurse and living and working in the South of Viet Nam. In the 1980's I had a chance with an international organization to leave India where I was working with Mother Teresa and to move back to Viet Nam on a humanitarian project. The Vietnamese are just as they are depicted in this article and the US citizen's appear to be similar to the ones who posted just prior to me deciding to write. Narrow minded bigots comes to mind, as I think of the American posters. I have lived in viet Nam for nearly thirty years of my life. I am casting my vote for the American who will bring my country closer to the idealt hat I have for it. I will vote proudly for Senator Barack Obama and reject the idiot's who find your webiste and post comments that are so untrue that you know they cannot be reading your article's. God bless America and hello Hanoi Ben

  • Posted By: Dolores Fleming @ 07/15/2008 9:42:12 AM

    Hanoi Ben you may have lived in Hanoi six years but you didn't live in Hanoi at the time McCain was imprisoned there.The Hanoi people hopes he gets elected and so do i.The nurse that saved him from siver torture and took care of him hopes he gets the Presidency and so do i.McCain has been up in washington for years and knows the in and outs of what goes on there.Obama has been there Two Years and has even said with his big mouth that he never got into washington but he knew it needed a change.Goes to show you what a dumb ass he is.

  • Posted By: Dolores Fleming @ 07/15/2008 9:31:30 AM

    I am a born democrat and i will vote for McCain before i would vote for Obama,the dumb ass.He evidently was asleep when the trade centers were hit because he said the pilots of the planes werte caught and are now in jail,excuse me but those pilots were uncinerated not incarcerated.He must of been aseep when the trade centers were hit.It shows he knows nothing about this country.He has to relyon his advisors to tell him what to do.He reads from a teleprompter and it tell him what to say,hell he can'T even think for himself.

  • Posted By: Dolores Fleming @ 07/15/2008 9:15:19 AM

    How in the sam hill can Obama ever run this country>he doen't even know any thing about 9/II.he believes that the pilots of the planes were caught and are now iuncarcerated,they are incinerated.He belives we captured them and that they are now in jail,and he expects to run this country.Now way in hell will the people elect a black man to run this country.ESpecialy one that knows nothing about 9/11.where in the hell was he when the trade centers were hit.He has been up in washington about two and a half years and thinks he can run this country.No way in hell will the americn people elect him.He is what you would call a dumb ass.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/15/2008 7:06:16 AM

    2001 Americans being Fools with Pandering,Lies,.... GW.Bush success of Politically by defeating Americans STUPIDITY............2004 Again insulting,FEARS AND LIES just another Peanut for him beating Americans Stupidity Pride......World Anti Americans World =Wide.......Cities in Europe Full of Graffies Of GW Bush moustache ala Hilter painted all over the Wall.....Americans NOT welcome any where in world they go...They Just a PARIAH to them.

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