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  • Posted By: Nins @ 07/12/2008 6:33:49 PM

    Know why McCain wants to distance himself from former Senator Phil Gramm? It's not because of Gramm's obnoxious remarks calling Americans "a nation of whiners" who are in "a mental recession." Those remarks were so ascerbic that they may've been made just to give McCain an excuse to distance himself from Gramm. This issue is a lot deeper than it looks on the surface.

    When Gramm was a Senator he was Chairman of the Banking Committee. He pushed through the legislation known as the "Enron Loophole." This loophole allowed US investment banks to bypass Federal regulations governing futures trading, and is the reason why investment banks were able to falsely inflate the prices of oil, wheat, corn and other commodities through massive futures trading, causing your costs of gas, heating oil and food to go through the roof.

    Gramm also created the Gramm-Leach-Biley Act, which got rid of the laws that seperate banking, insurance and brokerage activities in America. The Gramm Act was touted as a new way to protect consumer privacy, but the real meat on the Act's bones was banking deregulation. Essentially, this Act did away with laws written after the Great Depression to protect us from another Wall Street/Banking Industry collapse. That's right, Gramm stripped the system of it's safe guards nine years ago, and guess what? The value of the dollar has nose-dived, four major economic institutions have failed, Wall Street is unstable, and we are in a worsening recession.

    Notably, the US investment banks that gained the most from the Enron Loophole and from the Gramm Act contributed more than a million dollars to Gramm's campaign.

    Currently Gramm is Vice Chairman of UBS, the Swiss Bank that came up with the idea of "death bonds." Worse, though, UBS is involved in a scam where they sold auction rate securities to American customers. Auction rate securities are supposed to be as safe as cash, but the way UBS did it, the fees garnished by their in-house investment bankers were intentionally higher than the return on the securities, ripping off their American customers. The Massachusetts Attorney General has already filed charges against UBS, and private brokers world-wide have dropped UBS stock. UBS is forecasted to lose 82.91% of it's value in 2008. We are talking about the corporate bank where Gramm is Vice Chairman. Looking at his track record there and at the havoc he has wrought on the US economy through the Senate Banking Committee, it's clear that either Gramm is a criminal or grossly incompetent.

    Now McCain wants nothing to do with Gramm, wants us to forget Gramm has been a key player on McCain's team. Gramm was McCain's campaign CO-CHAIR and LEADING ECONOMIC ADVISOR. Previously, McCain had said that he planned to appoint Gramm as SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY.

    With Gramm as McCain's leading economic advisor, now you know why economists and analysts say that McCain's economic policy plans are untenable.

    • Posted By: Galasso @ 07/13/2008 7:44:38 AM

      Now - this is spamming - you just posted this on other Newsweek articles. You are not a responsible blogger as you claim. I don't think you're a doctor either - doctors don't have this much time on their hands.

      • Posted By: dking312 @ 07/13/2008 10:28:09 PM

        This should be posted as much as possible in as many places as possible. The word needs to be out about the low life practices going on.

        Keep telling the truth. Lies should not be spread. But God loves the truth. It sets you free!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Posted By: loriw @ 07/13/2008 6:22:21 PM

        I couldn't agree with you more!

  • Posted By: nobushthirdterm.com @ 07/13/2008 10:27:07 PM

    OTFLMAO! "I totally refute any accusation of abuse or torture of the prisoners," Duyet tells NEWSWEEK at his mango-shaded house in Haiphong." So... no POW torture in Vietnam What *was* McCain smoking? Wow, that's a lot like McCain saying we aren't torturing at Guantanamo. The irony is delicious.

    McCain = Bush's Third Term!
    nobushthirdterm.com

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/13/2008 10:11:50 PM



    Why does McCain still deny that the Soviets were
    involved in the interrogation of U.S. POWs in Vietnam?

    Does McCain's former interrogators, the communist
    Vietnamese, Russians, Chinese and Cubans have anything
    in their secret intelligence files about his behavior
    as a prisoner with which they could blackmail a
    President John McCain?



  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/13/2008 10:11:00 PM



    McCain was once treated for Posttraumatic Stress
    Disorder (PTSD) which is said to get worse over time
    for former POWs, what is the status of his treatment?

    Does McCain still harbor stress triggered suicidal
    tendencies?

    Where was McCain and what was happening to him during
    the months he was missing from the POW camp?



  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/13/2008 10:09:50 PM



    McCain's Campaign ad says he refused early release.

    Actually Vietnam Vets tell a different story

    News pundants have elevated McCain to "the most
    popular national political figure in the country" by
    repeatedly describing him as a "war hero" based on his
    refusal accept a communist offer of "early release"
    from captivity.

    What the media has carelessly refused to acknowledge
    is that the camp's senior ranking U.S. POW (SRO) had
    issued unquestionable orders that if a POW was to be
    released, "it would be the longest held prisoner"
    Because McCain was not the longest held POW, he would
    have faced a military court-marshal if he had accepted
    the offer.


  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/13/2008 10:06:53 PM



    In 1949 Dr. Andrew Salter authored Conditioned Reflex
    Therapy, a pioneering work in the field of
    psychoanalysis. Ten years later, as Richard Condon was
    writing The Manchurian Candidate, he asked Dr. Salter
    to help "design" the brainwashed character for the
    book and subsequent movie.

    More than 40 years later, in 1992, during the C-SPAN
    broadcasts of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA
    Affairs, Dr. Salter watched the hearings from his New
    York City apartment. Salter became fascinated with
    McCain's overly aggressive and angry behavior toward
    witnesses, especially family members of men still
    missing in action. After a few hours he called a
    friend telling her, "the signs are all there, I'm
    afraid Senator John McCain has been brainwashed."

    During the Senate Select hearings, McCain opposed all
    efforts by the POW/MIA families and activists to have
    the Select Committee expand its investigation to study
    how successful the Vietnamese, Soviet, Chinese and
    Cuban interrogation apparatuses were at exploiting
    American prisoners of war.


  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/13/2008 10:06:14 PM



    McCain has resisted any kind of war crimes
    investigation of his former Vietnamese torturers.
    Prosecution and subsequent trials could bring to
    justice the Vietnamese torturers known by the American
    POWs as the Bug, Slopehead, the Prick, the Soft Soap
    Fairy, Rabbit, the Cat, Zorba and many others who were
    responsible for the murder in North Vietnam of at
    least 55 U.S. POWs and the brutal torture of hundreds
    of others.

    In November 1991, Tracy Usry, chief investigator of
    the Minority Staff of the U.S. Senate Foreign
    Relations Committee, testified before the Senate
    Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, that the Soviets
    interrogated U.S. prisoners of war in Vietnam. McCain
    became outraged, interrupting Usry several times,
    arguing that "none of the returned U.S. prisoners of
    war released by Vietnam were ever interrogated by the
    Soviets."

    Former KGB Maj. Gen. Oleg Kalugin testified during the
    hearings that the KGB did interrogate U.S. POWs in
    Vietnam. Kalugin stated that one of the POWs worked on
    by the KGB was a "high-ranking naval officer," who,
    according to Kalugin, agreed to work with the Soviets
    upon his repatriation to the United States and has
    frequently appeared on U.S. television.

    Col. Bui Tin, a former Senior Colonel in the North
    Vietnamese Army, testified on the same day, but after
    Usry, that because of his high position in the
    Communist Party during the war he had the authority to
    "read all documents and secret telegrams from the
    politburo" pertaining to American prisoners of war. He
    said that not only did the Soviets interrogate some
    American prisoners of war, but that they treated the
    Americans very badly.

    McCain stunned onlookers at the hearing when he moved
    to the witness table and physically embraced Col. Tin
    as if he was a long, lost brother.



  • Posted By: Spinner @ 07/13/2008 7:38:28 PM

    These are curious comments. Maybe McCain didn't have such a hard time in Vietnam after all, especially after the Vietnamese found out that his dad and grandfather were important military men. Sure makes one wonder who's telling the truth.

  • Posted By: psaltseller @ 07/13/2008 1:50:03 PM

    Senator McCain doesn't like to talk about his time as a POW? Has Ms. Bailey been listening? From shutting off criticism of his lack of Arizona residency to reacting with badly suppressed rage at a request to define just how former POW status makes him more qualified for the Presidency, his "war hero" status has become an icon. Tom Paxton put it well: "It's fine to look back, as long as you don't stare."

  • Posted By: psaltseller @ 07/13/2008 1:42:37 PM

    Time changes many things, and memories are high on the list. Prisoners remember their incarceration differently than wardens. Having had the opportunity to participate in Viet Nam and Desert Shield/Storm, I used to think that we had remembered the problems attendant to entering a war without a clear idea of what we intended to accomplish. Our leaders have shown they did not.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 07/13/2008 12:16:25 PM

    Saudi Arabians, nineteen of them, flew loaded air liners into the World Towers. For lack of an enemy, we bombed Iraq. That's the best that you can say for that war. We abandoned our legitimate efforts in Afghanistan for the folly of Iraq, and all we have heard from the perpetrators since then is an endless series of fallacious reasons why we should have done such an insane thing as to bomb someone, anyone, in some frustrated and misguided effort to take revenge. The only similarity between the tower bombers and the Iraqis we went to war with was their religion. This act is an historical tragedy and a mockery of a president who claims to be a religious man. We could call him a hypocrite if he had sense enough to see the hypocrisy, but that remains doubtful.

  • Posted By: caroline @ 07/13/2008 9:43:34 AM

    Ah, the futility of war!!! As one of McCarthy's kids (remember them?) I opposed the war in Vietnam. Now I think of the young men I grew up with who died over there, and the others who came back addicted to drugs and alcohol. I think of the ones with PTSD who never had a normal life afterward. The ones who still get together and still talk "Nam with their dwindling cadre of buddies.

    And that was just our side. I think of the children born to American GIs who were ostracized because their mothers slept with the enemy. I think of innocent villagers caught up in a war not of their making.

    And now, over 30 years since the end, who won???? Who cares???What difference did it all make?????

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 07/13/2008 11:56:17 AM

      Enter Your Comment Caroline, I watched people catch on, a few at at a time, as the Viet Nam war moved forward with a progress similar to the one now in Iraq. By now, long time passing, there are few holdouts who think that anything we did there matched what we were told about why we should be there. Those who really believe that we have legitimate business in Iraq are very slowly dwindling now, but as the folly escalates, this will change.I can't forget Secretary of defense Mac Namara, who was enthusiastic about the war when he was secretary, crying in recent years on national television in memory of the futility and the useless carnage that he couldn't see back then. This probably will not happen with Rumsfield in the years to come, when our nation will have finally caught up with the rest of the world to see the absolute folly of Iraq, from start to finish, the sooner the better. There is no victory there for anyone or any country. It is a place where victory defies definition, same as Viet Nam. The best we ever got there was "light at the end of the tunnel", and the best we get in Iraq is the vague concept of, "stand up, stand down". It's the season for madness and after so much carnage, the bloodlust is satisfied for the time being and we all come home to rest, waiting for the next madman to start another one just like it.

  • Posted By: Wanji @ 07/13/2008 11:53:21 AM

    These comments come from Vietnamese citizens who cannot even vote in their own country? How about McCain's argument that he would never talk to our country's enemies? Vietnam is still a communist country that ran re-education camps and repressed its people from expressing their free-will. McCain was there in Vietnam early after "normalization" in the mid-1990's to lobby the Vietnamese for American businesses, not to push for democratic reforms. He talked to the enemy in order to push big business and their outsourcing interests which in the end led to a loss of US workers manufacturing jobs. Of course some Vietnamese would vote (if they could) for him because he would push their economic and political agendas, not America's. He is the worst kind of hypocrite.

  • Posted By: Wanji @ 07/13/2008 11:50:14 AM

    These comments come from Vietnamese citizens who cannot even vote in their own country? How about McCain's argument that he would never talk to our country's enemies? Vietnam is still a communist country that ran re-education camps and subjugated its people from expressing their free-will. McCain was there in Vietnam early after "normalization" in the mid-1990's to lobby the Vietnamese for American businesses, not to push for democratic reforms. He talked to the enemy to push big business and outsourcing which cost US workers manufacturing jobs. Of course some Vietnamese would vote (if they could) for him because he would push their economic and political agendas, not America's. He is the worst kind of hypocrite.

  • Posted By: sparky716 @ 07/13/2008 11:12:04 AM

    woops left out when we leave Iraq

  • Posted By: sparky716 @ 07/13/2008 11:10:19 AM

    just like Vietnam...when we leave the people will go back to what their used to and once again our men will have died for nothing...you can't win a civil war..what a waste of our young men in both of these wars.

  • Posted By: fiber artist @ 07/13/2008 9:34:00 AM

    You want to talk about direct connection to the Terrorists, read about the REALLY close relationship the Bush family has had with the House of Saud/binLaden family for the past 50 years. Bandar bin Laden is practically W's brother. The entire bin Laden family is in bed with the Bush family - guess why? OIL!

  • Posted By: 15R8 @ 07/13/2008 8:44:11 AM

    GLORY GLORY GLORY :ASK NOT WHAT McCAINE WOULD DO FOR THE COMMUNISTS IN VIETNAM ASK WHAT HE WOULD DO FOR THOSR THAT HAD TO FLEE THEIR HOMELAND AND NOW LIVE IN AMERICA.
    ASK WHAT HE WOULD DO FOR THE MIDDLECLASS
    ASK WHY IN HIS 26 YEARS IN CONGRESS HE HAS NOT VIGEROUSLY PRODDED THE OIL INDUSTRY TO PRODUCE OIL FORM THE LEASED AREAS.
    VOTE OBAMMA

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