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  • Posted By: debbew1100 @ 07/14/2008 3:13:51 PM

    I do not want anyone in my white house that could be in anyway muslim or had a muslim upbringing. Let's not forget that while Obama says he is a Christian that he got baptised only after getting into politics in the 1990s. He is a political Christian, meaning that it was for show and for a vote.
    The truth is that he was raised in Muslim countries and with muslim Dad. All of this, he was not raised Muslim is rubbish! Seriously what kind of parent does not instill his or her beliefs on their child. There is a lot of Muslim influence in his life whether or not he wants to admit it!!!! For me this makes him to much of a liabilitty to have as my comander and chief, the most powerful man in the world! Not with the issues that we face today.

    • Posted By: befair @ 07/14/2008 3:39:00 PM

      Your comments are full of mis-information. Your White House will not be occupied by a Muslim. It will be occupied by a man who was 2 years old when his Father left the family and he was 4 years old when his mother took him out of the US. He did what any other FOUR YEAR OLD would do, he went where his mother took him. His Father became an athiest, but none of this had any influence on Obama since his father did not raise him. When Obama was TEN YEARS OLD he retuned to the US to live with his American grandparents. He has lived here ever since. He doesnot have to justify why he is what he is any more than you do. Just because you keep repeating the same obvious lies over and over does not mean there will not be someone there to set the record straight.

      • Posted By: debbew1100 @ 07/14/2008 4:19:33 PM

        I disagree I think that when you are in the running to become President that you should have to explain everything! Besides we are currently at WAR with an extreme muslim ruler. How can you say that this is not relevant and that Obama should not have to explain himself. We are not talking about the fact that he is not the same belief system that I am. Frankly I do not care if he was raised to worship a pet rock! What I care about is whether or not he would be in ANY WAY sympathetic to the Muslim nation.

        • Posted By: VoiceOfReason2008 @ 07/15/2008 12:36:51 PM

          He has explained himself. You and others just don't believe him. I guess that's your prerogative, but let's not cast this as Obama hiding something. I've read his books and agree with his values. I think he'll make an excellent president.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 07/14/2008 4:46:54 PM

      Obama joined the Trinity United Church of Chirst in the late 1980s before he became a politician.

      • Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/14/2008 5:51:44 PM

        .. and he stayed in it after he became a politician, which shows poor judgement

    • Posted By: emmarcee @ 07/14/2008 3:21:30 PM

      on the mark!! ASk Obama why he went to a trip to Pakistan in his early twenties? of course he will answer something like "to learn about feudal life". Comeon, of all the nations of the world,.. Pakistan. He and his AntiChristian Liberal Media is taking Americans for fools.

  • Posted By: songtitle @ 07/14/2008 11:31:49 AM

    <blockquote>He is now a Christian, having been baptized in the early 1990s at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. </blockquote>
    Better retract this. Obama has never been baptised. Big oops for a cover article on Obama's Christianity.

    • Posted By: emmarcee @ 07/14/2008 11:37:32 AM

      Is that true? whered did you get the information? BTW, it does not matter since we know the church he has been going to.

      • Posted By: songtitle @ 07/14/2008 11:43:21 AM

        Obama's children have been baptised. Obama "walked down the aisle" on his very first visit to Trinity. I have never seen a single interview or article that said Barack was baptised.

        • Posted By: raddave @ 07/14/2008 12:14:41 PM

          You need to re-read this article because it says in it that Obama was Baptized.

          • Posted By: songtitle @ 07/15/2008 12:35:53 PM

            I know, I quoted it above. The article should be corrected unless they have a quote from Obama saying he was baptised.

            The main premise of the article is flat false.

  • Posted By: john cain @ 07/15/2008 12:35:51 PM

    Hussein is a black man of Arab Muslim heritage and who strongly supports Black Liberation theology.

  • Posted By: scrimshander @ 07/14/2008 5:55:48 PM

    I too think that Obama has used his Christianity to his advantage politically. But that is of no consequence to me. Whether he can stand firm and govern this country, in its current disarray, is indeed a matter of great concern. I sense a softness about the man that troubles me a bit. I am not saying we need a fire breathing dragon in the White House. But I do think we need someone who will stand firm and not weave and wobble on all the issues of importance. If that person attends church and professes his adherence to Christianity, that's well and good. But I happen to feel that he cannot let that faith take precedence over his resolve to be an able caretaker over the country. It seems to me that going to war is at odds with Christianity, but numerous presidents have found it necessary to take that fateful step. I think what I really want to say is that any president should keep his religious faith and his duty to country separate. Personally, I am not worried about Obama's religious convictions or lack of them. I am concerned about whether he can exercise strong leadership in the Oval Office, his religion or lack of it notwithstanding.

    • Posted By: darbyshaw @ 07/14/2008 8:52:09 PM

      Great post - bothering me that I see no backbone - just a pretty face being groomed and told what to say and do. I had a comment to one of my posts that if what I was saying was true, his wife would beat the crap out of him. This was from an irate staunch supporter

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/15/2008 11:54:49 AM

        At least he is able to REMEMBER what is told to him and what he said. Can't really say that about YOURs & Share's candidate, now can you?

  • Posted By: grej @ 07/14/2008 7:08:49 PM

    Most African Americans are good church going bible-believing folks who have been betrayed
    by religious leaders who too often have turned the pulpit into a forum for a political viewpoint
    which is incompatible with the scripture that I know.

    Here is some scripture they should be teaching:

    "What you do to the least of these you do unto me"

    "Before I knit you in your mother's womb I knew
    you".

    Of course being pro-life is incompatible with whatt we know of Mr. Obama's history
    and voting record.
    Sen. Obama received the following scores on NARAL Pro-Choice America's Congressional Record on Choice.

    2007: 100 percent
    2006: 100 percent
    2005: 100 percent

    By the way, when he was in the Illinois legislature he voted against requiring a physician to save the life of an infant who had survived a botched abortion. This is a more extreme position than even most pro-abortion groups like NARAL have. He is as far as I know the most pro-abortion, pro homosexual candidate ever to run for president. If this man represents the new Christianity and the new America, God help us all.

    One could disagree over issues such as war and the death penalty and still be a good Christian. Abortion and homosexuality are always and forever more wrong and serious evils. They
    were wrong two thousand years ago and will be two thousand years from now.

    The death penalty is for person who have committed and are guilty of a heinous crime.
    Abortion is the taking of an innocent life,

    Nothing sanctioned by man can have any validity or lasting if it is not also likewise sanctioned by God.

    Mr. Obama is the first African-American to be nominated by a major party, which is hugh. No man, however can come before God or the word of God.

    How any bible-believing loving Christian, African-American or otherwise can even consider voting for this man is beyond me.

    The day will come for each of us when we will have to stand before God and justify our every action,
    including voting for someone like this.

    There is a picture at the bottom of the National Right to LIfe web page(nrlc.org). Go there and
    take a look and think long and hard about how you're going to vote.




    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/15/2008 11:48:39 AM

      I have replied to posts such as this before. Before you start stating what type of people blacks are talk to some. By your post you definitely are not black and have not spoken to any regarding this. We as a whole do not have any leaders. There are individuals who tend to speak about different circumstances. But let's be clear no one speaks for me. And since you know absolutely nothing about the black churches, as indicated in your post, you really should not speak on them.

    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 07/14/2008 9:16:21 PM

      Terrific post - and right on!

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 07/14/2008 8:14:55 PM

    John Mc Cain is a Muslim, and he also consults a voodoo doctor about his failing health and decaying memory so the news media won't get wind of it. The plan is to get him into office like they got Bush in and then run some more like Cheney and Wolfowitz in under him to run the country, just like they used Bush for a puppet to start the war. It's all for oil and Halliburton is footing the bill with the untold fortune that they are making in Iraq. There's enough in overruns and theft to cover it without even showing on the books.

    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 07/14/2008 9:20:34 PM

      Aren't we hitting the sauce a little early tonight?

      Wow, what a mouthful of conspiracy theories and nonsense, all in one long run-on ramble!

      • Posted By: raddave @ 07/14/2008 9:36:50 PM

        It is just as rediculous as saying Obama is a Muslim.

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 11:00:50 PM

          Apparently Obama being a Muslim is less ridiculous than the likelihood of McCain being a Muslim.

          Anyone see the Cover of the New Yorker magazine?

          http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/14/obama-camp-slams-satirical-new-yorker-magazine-cover/

          • Posted By: raddave @ 07/14/2008 11:40:36 PM

            That cover was a satire of people who believe Obama is a Muslim. I think it was in bad taste, but it is not anyway saying Obama is a Muslim.

            • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/15/2008 11:42:57 AM

              Some people thrive on dirt like this and will continue to spread it around. YET THEY CLAIM TO BE UNDECIDED. COMPLETE BS.

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/14/2008 9:31:44 PM

        Yeah kinda silly huh, Since John McCain can't even keep sunni and shia striaght in his head, and up to 3 weeks ago had NO idea what a "KURD" was...lol He'll make a nice puppet for Cheney.

  • Posted By: ralphied @ 07/15/2008 2:54:09 AM

    Here you (Newsweek) go again trying to make Obama look like he led a very lonely life as a boy. Was an outsider in college,did not know which way to believe spiritually but all of a sudden he found Jeremaih Wright and his life changed. He then became a better man and went into politics. I am sick of his "dream", imitating MLK and trying to imitate JFK. All of this is just to get to religious votes. He attented J Wrights church for twenty years and he did not hear or soak in any of JWrights racist remarks. If Obama did not believe the way JWright did why did he continue to attend the church. Answer that question.

    • Posted By: americancitizen200 @ 07/15/2008 9:59:52 AM

      you are the one that needs a real chrisitan experience

      • Posted By: freeda peeples @ 07/15/2008 11:27:07 AM

        He stayed in that churchfor 20 years because it served a purpose...for politcal reasons. He left the same church for the same reason...it served him polically.....simple....cut ans dry.

  • Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 07/15/2008 10:46:11 AM

    Thou does protest to much.....What's Barry so worried about??

  • Posted By: gcparee @ 07/15/2008 10:23:58 AM

    How come your trying to prove he has a faith when you know he sat in a church who hate teaching went on or 20 years please dont insult the people of your country If some how you make money by printing this cant you at lease explain it your idea.

  • Posted By: cencarnacion @ 07/15/2008 2:15:33 AM

    We all agree, Republicans and Democrats alike, that there is no doubt that Obama is a very intelligent man -- a Columbia and Harvard educated man whose rise in politics is meteoric. I can say with 100% confidence that none of you will disagree with this premise.

    With this premise, I pose this question. What would you think of an extremely intelligent person who attends a racist church for twenty long years? He cannot be branded as stupid because he obviously is intelligent. Whatever thought one can come up with, there is no denying the fact that attending the racist church did not bother him and it became part of his life for twenty long years. Never mind being wed by Wright, but exposing the formative minds of his beloved daughters to the racist rants of Wright speaks volumes about who Obama is.

    This is why I can never vote for Obama.


    We all agree, Republicans and Democrats alike, that there is no doubt that Obama is a very intelligent man -- a Columbia and Harvard educated man whose rise in politics is meteoric. I can say with 100% confidence that none of you will disagree with this premise.

    With this premise, I pose this question. What would you think of an extremely intelligent person who attends a racist church for twenty long years? He cannot be branded as stupid because he obviously is intelligent. Whatever thought one can come up with, there is no denying the fact that attending the racist church did not bother him and it became part of his life for twenty long years. Never mind being wed by Wright, but exposing the formative minds of his beloved daughters to the racist rants of Wright speaks volumes about who Obama is.

    This is why I can never vote for Obama.


    • Posted By: americancitizen200 @ 07/15/2008 10:01:44 AM

      Enter Your Comment I think you were just looking for a reason to NOT vote for Obama so u would not have to confront your real feelings

  • Posted By: sharko @ 07/15/2008 9:49:48 AM

    I would like Jjen to diversify his views about Mr. Obama.He is not the only candidate who has so far turned down the spiritual leaders. I wonder how fast you've forgotten Maccain Haggee.A leader is for all humanity regardless of the faith of and religion of the people.Even Peter could'nt support Jesus in times of sacrifice.Please let us compare Obama and Maccain and not with spiritual leaders who drink wine and preach water.

  • Posted By: sharko @ 07/15/2008 9:23:02 AM

    Obama is the best America can offer.The only unit he needs is the support and prayers and United States will never be the same again.GO ON BARRY!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: jjen @ 07/15/2008 9:14:03 AM

    Thank you for this article. Mr. Obama is clearly still seeking. He said he committed himself to Christ Who said "I am the way, the truth & the light. No one comes to The Father but through Me." and then says that isn't totally true. Mr. Obama joined a church than hardly ever attended ( two or three times a month is not often) and when it became a political challenge he resigned his church membership. Mr. Obama said he looked to Rev. Wright as a mentor yet instead of just stating that he did not fully agree with him on the issue Mr. Obama publically disenfranchised himself from the friendship. Mr. Obama talks about civil rights,human rights, and getting "beyond our racial divides" and yet when these convictions are tested for political correctness the political correctness wins. My question is that if Mr. Obama does not have the audacity to stand up for his friendship, church, ideals or even for his God than how will he muster the power to stand up for our country. The presidency is not for seekers but for those that have convictions. A leader must be willing to take charge, even when it is not popular. As Mr. Lincoln said, "You can't please all the people all the time."

  • Posted By: vakosh @ 07/15/2008 8:16:33 AM

    Interesting question ... I ask myself everyday how much am I not my past, how much am I not my heritage, how much am I not a catholic, how much am I not a democrat, how much am I not a middle class citizen. You are what you are ... and all this disowning of his past .... uh ... I just don't buy it.

  • Posted By: ralphied @ 07/15/2008 4:59:23 AM

    Mjit, if everyone who divorced their wife for another woman is a bad horrible person I would agree with you .However if everyone who got a divorce would be a bad horrible person that no one would want to be around then I might see your point. Getting a divorce does not make you a bad person. Ask the millions who have gotten a divorce Look at the Kennedys. Now go back to your knitting and cleaning soccer balls. .

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/15/2008 4:27:45 AM

    Oh ralphied -- I have another point.

    A guy like McCain who abandons his disabled wife and 3 kids for a younger, richer beer heiress and then abandons her after a stroke - to learn to walk on her own - might do to us - what he did to his family in need.

    That is the point we all need to be concerned with. You included

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/15/2008 4:22:00 AM

    Hi ralphied --

    Seems to me everyone else has stuck their noses in Obama's Christian experience. I'm asking about McCain's Christian experience - isn't that why you're here? Did you not just read the article? Weren't you curious - or nosy?

    I'm just addressing the big white elephant in the room - no one seems to want to talk about it.


  • Posted By: ralphied @ 07/15/2008 4:08:09 AM

    To mjit, the only ones that can answer your question is John McCain and his ex-wife. You must be a female because you are sticking your nose in someone elses private business. There is no need for you to know the answer to your question. You must be a soccer mom.

  • Posted By: ralphied @ 07/15/2008 3:05:24 AM

    Of course Obama's reply will be that he does not remember JWright making any racist remarks. He does not remember Jwright making remarks that would anger the Anglos. Of course he will also say that each time that he left church he felt peace in his heart and felt closer to his family. Why doesn"t Newsweek give just as much time to JMcCain. Why doesn't newsweek write good articles about John McCain, why because Newsweek supports Obama. In my opinion Newsweek is not fair in its reporting when it comes to McCain and Obama. I was thinking about getting a subscription to Newsweek but I have changed my mind due to the way Newsweek does its reporting. Very bias.

  • Posted By: Windy City @ 07/15/2008 12:49:04 AM

    Mr. Obama is correct--his understanding of the message of Christ is going to be problematic with many evangelicals and other believers who trust that Jesus knew what he was talking about when he described a narrow path to salvation. It would seem that the senator knows more on the topic than the man in whom his faith rests.

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