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  • Posted By: Morgan2008 @ 07/14/2008 7:37:56 PM

    I don't trust Barack Obama to tell the truth about his religious beliefs or anything else since I believe as his former pastor, Rev. Wright, said...Obama is a politician and he says what he has to say to get elected. Also his ego is just too over the top to suit me. He keeps going around saying when I'm president I'll do such and such. We don't know what he will do IF he becomes president since he has flip-flopped so many times. IF you have doubts about a candidate's character and whether you can trust them or not you would be wise not to vote for that candidate even if they are your party's presumptive nominee. I wish someone would start a Write In Campaign for Hillary Clinton. She is a person I would trust to do the right thing for our country. I simply do not trust Barack Obama.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 7:52:09 PM

      OMG, Morgan. There are a slew of organizations pushing for just that, that you can visit to sign your name to get Hillary on the ballot for the DNC. ThLet me get you started here:

      PRO-HILLARY website launched. Anyone who would like to sign the pledge (reiterated below and on the site), here is the link to the site: http://www.together4us.com/

      REMEMBER THIS MEDIA BLITZ AGAINST HILLARY NON STOP? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

      THE BYLAWS COMMITTE VOTE UNFAIRLY IN THE EYES OF MANY!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1whezcwSrQE



      ALL the more to sign the pledge (repeated below) on this webiste www.together4us.com

      THE PLEDGE OF TOGETHERNESS: SPREAD THE WORD!

      We stand together with her 18 million voters in pursuit of all of the following:

      Bring us together by honoring Hillary Clinton and her supporters at the Democratic National Convention in Denver by:

      Placing her name into nomination (following traditional protocol)

      Ensuring a roll-call vote

      Inviting her to speak, during prime-time, on August 26th, the 88th anniversary of Women's Suffrage

      Bring us together by adoption of policies on the Platform Committee that Hillary Clinton has championed.

      Bring us together through reform of the primary and caucus system to reflect the basic principle of one person - one vote.

      Bring us together through outspoken denunciation of all gender bias, racism and other forms of discrimination.

      Bring us together by making a concerted effort to retire her campaign debt.

      We are being asked to embrace Party Unity without the fair representation of Hillary Clinton and her 18 million voters. Party Unity requires bilateral action. We ask Barack Obama and the DNC to respond.


      HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS will never forget the mean-spirited and sexist-based dialogue the MainStreamMedia news reporters and political pundits spewed 24/7 about Hillary from the time she entered into the Presidential race right up through the very last primary. No future female Presidential candidate should ever be treated in this despicable manner again. This video provides a barrage of clips on what she put up with in the media:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM








      http://blog.pumapac.org/

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 7:43:17 PM


    To: mj it

    All the more reason why the Deceitful Negligent Committee should not have messed around with the democratic process and shove Obama down our throats, fixing the outcome to turn out the way it did. It will be a pity if a democrat is not the next President, but we can all thank the DNC and the MainStreamMedia for their bias towards ensuring that (come H*ll or high water), Obama was going to be the democratic nominee to run against McCain.

    BTW, I think Bush has been the worse president we have had in my lifetime, but McCain is not a duplicate of that guy. I wont let the DNC shove that type of thinking (thats their push,McSame,McLame,etc.) down my throat either as I consider whether to fully support McCain should Hillary not be on the ballot, which puma and hundreds of other organizations are pushing for and it is starting to look like that might actually happen. So thats my story and I am sticking to it.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ShutTheFreudUp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1whezcwSrQE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

    Hillary Supporters Unite:
    www.together4us.com
    http://blog.pumapac.org/


  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 7:42:43 PM


    To: mj it

    All the more reason why the Deceitful Negligent Committee should not have messed around with the democratic process and shove Obama down our throats, fixing the outcome to turn out the way it did. It will be a pity if a democrat is not the next President, but we can all thank the DNC and the MainStreamMedia for their bias towards ensuring that (come H*ll or high water), Obama was going to be the democratic nominee to run against McCain.

    BTW, I think Bush has been the worse president we have had in my lifetime, but McCain is not a duplicate of that guy. I wont let the DNC shove that type of thinking (thats their push,McSame,McLame,etc.) down my throat either as I consider whether to fully support McCain should Hillary not be on the ballot, which puma and hundreds of other organizations are pushing for and it is starting to look like that might actually happen. So thats my story and I am sticking to it.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ShutTheFreudUp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1whezcwSrQE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

    Hillary Supporters Unite:
    www.together4us.com
    http://blog.pumapac.org/


  • Posted By: carlor @ 07/14/2008 7:39:47 PM

    Your attempt to re-write Sen. Obama's early life doesn't match the known facts on many points. Only last week, Mr. Kelman was interviewed about the circumstances of Obama moving to Chicago to become a 'community organiser'. Far from providing any support for your claim that he 'recruited' Sen. Obama, Mr. Kelman recollects that Obama answered an ad in the newspaper.

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/14/2008 7:38:42 PM

    Right on - Light Speed. You are a true Christian who preaches through action. I commend you and your hard work. Lots of people falling through the cracks after 8 years of greed and corruption. We can not afford another four.

  • Posted By: light speed @ 07/14/2008 7:22:40 PM

    I am a southern white christian male from east Tennessee. Most in my area still seem to feel Sen. Obama is a Muslim but this is because they desire to have an excuse not to vote for him. I work in our local church food pantry where seven years ago we had fourteen families coming into the pantry every month, today we have near nine hundred. This is difficult, because we get very little support but god provides for these people. I do not support abortion but this election I am looking at other issues. President Bush came into office controlling all three branches of goverment and A majority on the supreme court. Abortion was not on the table until this election came up, This upsets me. He had almost supreme power in 2003 when it was almost a crime to disagree with him but he did not stop abortion. Electing John McCain will not end Abortion nor will electing Obama, only god can end this crime. I can't control this and I will not wast my vote. 1 John 3:17 says " I f anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of god be in him?" McCain is a wasted vote, Obama is a christian, because he says he is and only god can judge the heart. Obama I feel will do better to help this economy and in turn help these poor souls coming into our food pantry. I am going to vote for Obama and a great deal of the people I work with tell me the same. If you desire to reply with propaganda from the right, you may do so but I want read it and It want change my vote. You are welcome to serve some of the poor in your community.

    • Posted By: skywalker77 @ 07/14/2008 7:33:47 PM

      The Catholic Popes during the Crusades claimed to be Christians too...

  • Posted By: darbyshaw @ 07/14/2008 6:43:31 PM

    First of all I am black and my roots go back (4) generations in America. I am still dumbfounded that how excited everyone is with the potential (probabal) election of the first "Black" President. This gentleman has no Black roots in America and admits he went to Rev Wright and his church to learn about Black America. I have a problem with this man using the "black" card and now via this article he is biracial. Rev Wright was his "father figure" for 20 years and now Obama is basically calling him a freak. He has Muslim background (So what) - but let's deny it because it doesn't look good. Noone else has a problem with things being omitted or changed constantly with this guy? I believe in integrity and honesty. I am democrat and I don't want to vote with this guy. I read this article and keep reading things hoping that all of a sudden I find a worthiness in this man and it seems to be getting worst.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 7:06:20 PM

      OMG, Darby, I am right there with you. I voted Hillary in the primaries and I had hoped that Obama would grow on me, so to speak (like moss on a stone), but instead my opinion of him has further deteriorated of late. Great, honest post. : - D

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/14/2008 1:12:59 PM

    Hi Personcrz - you seem pretty informed. So maybe you could answer me this:

    McCain who abandoned his disabled wife and 3 kids to start up an affair with a much younger, richer beer heiress...and has been a kept man ever since -- pushed through deals that benefited telecoms in Arizona...so they could monopolize the market.

    Why would an upstanding man...who then abandoned his second wife in her time of need...having her to learn to walk on her own after suffering a stroke - not help the little guy...the smaller entrepreneur. It's harder for us to compete with the Wall Marts of the world. They come in buy us small mom and pops out - with their lower prices - then jack up the prices when we're gone.

    Why would an upstanding man swap up for the richer corporations and leave us behind - without jobs, houses or pensions? Maybe because he's looking out for himself -

    • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/14/2008 6:59:49 PM

      Well I really don't know why McCain and his first wife got a divorce twenty years ago. The Bible permits divorce, you know, and as far as I know he was supportive after the divorce. Why don't you ask Carol, his ex-wife, who seems to be fine with it. Maybe they just changed, what with his being a POW for years, tortured and all. People do that you know. More than half of the marriages in the US end in divorce these days.

      And I rather like Cindy, at least what I know of her. She's a NASCAR fan you know. Who are you to judge her? Do you know her? I doubet it.

      I have no idea what you are talking about with regard to McCain being in bed with or "swapping up" to bigger corporations. He wasn't rich, not like Obama was with his bank VP grandmother raising him. And Obama has been in bed with Walmart, got paid with a board appointment for Michelle, so what are you talking about?

      As for the telecoms, I'd have to see what you are talking about. Do you have a link? I know that Obama just voted for FISA, payoff for the communications big wigs who have been supporting his campaign, giving them retroactive immunity for violating my right to privacy. I find that far more appalling than regulation of the internet, which might actually help cut down on all the stupid pop-ups and spam.

  • Posted By: valwayne @ 07/14/2008 5:34:58 PM

    Hey Newsweek....let me remind you that you aren't an official part of the Obama campaign. You are suppose to be an unbiased newsweekly right? How about asking and trying to answer a few very simple questions? How does someone with such spiritual leaning...such searching and yearning for spiritual truth end up in listening to hate in Rev Wright's church for 20 years? How does someone so thoughful and spiritual out his own Grandmother as a racist to a national audience to defend someone like Rev Wright? How does someone with such a spiritual side to him end up in such close relationships with convicted felons and unrepentant terrorists? How does someone with such deep and abiding faith treat Hillary Clinton the way his campaign treated her in the primaries, or label someone like Geraldine Ferraro a racist? Is Obama a spiritual man of faith, or is he a cold hard calculating politician focused on winning at all costs. My bet is on the cold hard calculating politician as that would explain all the questions I posed. But I guess we'll all have to come to our own conclusions without any help from Newsweek as Newsweek provided us another Obamamania fluff piece! What a useless waste of magazine space!

    • Posted By: tboz6547 @ 07/14/2008 5:41:20 PM

      Im sure you're a hit at the PUMA sites....

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 6:44:27 PM

        Hillary supporters, the Undecided, or leary Obama supporters (although that is probably an oxymoran given the kool-aid and all that they guzzle): http://blog.pumapac.org/

        http://www.youtube.com/user/ShutTheFreudUp

  • Posted By: befair @ 07/14/2008 6:20:07 PM

    Those who have come to this site to rehash the exhausted topic of Hillary and the convention need to stop wasting space here. If they have something to say about the topic of Obama'a faith great, other wise save it.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 6:33:14 PM

      Hate to tell you, but Obama, no matter HOW bombastic he continues to be (his own campaign presidential seal, pushing Germany to consider his next speech in front of the Brandenburg Gate where Kennedy and Reagan spoke when they were President, not wanna be presidents like Obama, etc) is NOT the official Democratic candidate . So until he is, Hillary is still in the picture. So get over it.

  • Posted By: military wife @ 07/14/2008 4:19:44 PM

    If BO isn't a muslim, he certainly isn't a Christian either. Any true born again Christian would know that their is only ONE way to Heaven and to the Father God and that is thru Jesus Christ the son of God. Jesus said, "I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by me". It has been said on the news that he believes that there are many ways to Heaven. It sounds to me like he is more New Age than he is Christian, because the New Age religion believes that there are many ways to heaven.

    Also anybody that claims to be a Christian would NOT be for partial birth abortion on demand either. That goes against God Himself because that is destroying God's creation. We are made in the image of God. We all know, in this day and age that life begins at conception. Babies inuttero are not just blobs of tissue. They can be viable in the second trimester. Partial birth abortion is killing a baby being partially born. That is out and out murder! And he thinks that a baby is punishment and he wouldn't want to punish his daughter with a baby. Babies ARE NOT PUNISHMENTS Mr. Obama! They are GIFTS from God. They may be consequences, but not punishments.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/14/2008 4:29:58 PM

      So you are like Bush and have a direct line to the Divine? Why don't you worry about your soul and stop judging everyone else. It always amazes me when the Christian Reich and Church Nazis begin their tirade. Science means nothing to you, Historical facts means nothing to you. You absolutely believe that Jesus had blonde hair and blue eyes, historically how is this possible in that particular region at that particular time in history.

      By the way the Bibles (all versions of them are censored books) Christianity (all of them) just happen to be the richest and most powerful religion at this time.

      • Posted By: military wife @ 07/14/2008 6:30:41 PM

        Yes I do have a direct line to the Divine, it's called prayer. I have also taken care of my soul when I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. If we want to know who a person is we have to judge his character by the way he acts not just by what he says. So far I really haven't seen BO act like a Christian based on what his actions have been in his voting record or his life, accept for a few superficial things.

  • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/14/2008 6:25:27 PM

    Do you mean Hillary Bush, Liberman, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Clinton?

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/14/2008 6:24:01 PM

    Hi Sharenews - the bottom line is:

    The guy in the pew next to me might be like McCain who abandoned his disabled wife and 3 kids for a younger, richer beer heiress whom he abandoned after a stroke - to learn to walk on her own. And he might be in bed with the corporations who want to keep us in Iraq for money (Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater and Big Oil)....but that doesn't mean I'd vote for him to be president. I'd like a guy who wouldn't abandon his family or us...in time of need.

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/14/2008 5:12:05 PM

    Oh Hope - I didn't see your comment. I was actually asking about Christian actions. You know - instead of talking about passages in the bible. Christ was all about action.

    You know like McCain's actions -- how he abandoned his disabled wife for a much younger, richer beer heiress and then abandoning her when she has a stroke - to learn to walk on her own.

    I know it's bothersome. It bothers me too!

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/14/2008 5:16:53 PM

      McCAIN WILL HAVE TO ANSWER FOR HIS ACTIONS TOO !! BUT SO WILL OBAMA AND HE IS WILLING TO SIGN A BILL THAT WOULD KILL MILLIONS OF BABIES !!

      • Posted By: befair @ 07/14/2008 5:23:14 PM

        You do not know when life begins, only God can know that, so neither you or I can say that abortion is or is not murder.

        • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 5:30:01 PM

          Actually we do know, because God has told us "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations." Jeremiah 1:5.

          =)

          God bless

          • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/14/2008 6:23:32 PM

            So does that maen life is sacred after death too? he knows us then, what do we do with the body? How do we knwo when the "sould" leaves the body....He Also said LIFE IS SACRED, does that not matter to you who live for WAR?

          • Posted By: befair @ 07/14/2008 6:10:06 PM

            That scripture was not talking about all mankind but an actual individual to whom God was speaking. So often people interpret the words in the bible in such a literal way and paint a much broader picture than the one that was actually there.

          • Posted By: tboz6547 @ 07/14/2008 5:37:11 PM

            I see, you are the one true interpreter of god's word.... Thank you for enlightening us, oh great one...
            We all own a bible, and Im sure we all have our own interpretation... try coming up with an original thought....

            • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 5:42:43 PM

              An original thought over God's word... hmmm no thanks I'll stick to the only absolute truth, the One who created the world, created me, and is going to bring me to Heaven, thanks.

        • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/14/2008 5:45:48 PM

          GOD SAYS IN THE BIBLE THAT I KNEW YOU AT CONCEPTION EC 3.2

        • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/14/2008 5:40:11 PM

          Yeah and you can't say that MURDER is not murder either, see the word "ABORTION is NOWHERE in the Bible, only that life is sacred, that means not just from sperm to birth, for ever, ALL life, sacred. SO how do you defend sending nearly 4500 of our children to die in what McCain himself has called "a WAR FOR OIL"?(05/03/08..he said it)

      • Posted By: tboz6547 @ 07/14/2008 5:21:04 PM

        If the Republicans were going to do anything for you ont hsi issue legislatively wouldnt they already have done it? They had eight years (at least 4) where they could have attempted to pass all kinds of legislation to stop the baby killing. They did nothing. McCain has been in the Senate for 20+ years and done nothing. At least Obama's only ignored you for a couple of years.

        • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 5:39:20 PM

          Actually, they did, they funded education on the matter. Agreed that it isn't enough, for sure.

          However Obama and the democrats would have that education be nullified because they are all for abortion, period. The republicans at least try and hinder it some, but Obama says "it's a punishment I don't want my daughters to have, to have to have a baby they don't want". That's a huge step backwards.

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/14/2008 5:37:28 PM

        Wait are you talking about McCains "100yrs of WAR FOR OIL" bill? That will kill our children at war for hundreds of years to come? That bill, or maybe the GI BILL McCain does NOT support, killing them economically and wanting to deny them a better life...That bill, or are you just imagining somehting else...?

    • Posted By: debbew1100 @ 07/14/2008 5:31:28 PM

      For me the issue is not who is more holy. The issue is that Obama is sympathetic to the nation of Islam. He may or may not have been a practicing muslim at some point himself. I do not trust someone who has spent so much time in the midst of this nation to run my damn country. McCain can be a rotten son of a bad word but I know that he was raised HERE, he was not EVER raised muslim, and I have no worries about ever finding out that he would in anyway show that nation any sympathy!!!! Other then that I do not care much for their personal lives, they are just that, personal. I care about voting history and about loyalty to our nation. Not how many wives they have had!

    • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 5:25:34 PM

      Christ was actually about faith with actions, and about repentance, things that happen in the soul and body and mind. I know very well what my Savior was about, thank you.

      Again, you keep bringing up a sin from 20 years ago that McCain commited. Congratulations. You have sinned 20 seconds ago in some way shape or form, as have I. Have you repented? I have. You keep accusing McCain of something that he has long since found peace with, or something that he struggles with. Who are you to bring up a sin that God has forgiven(IF he has repented)?

      What is bothersome(and I said tiresome, by the way) is you continueing to try and discredit someone like that without making any such mention of the same faults in your own choice. Again, I haven't seen any indication that Obama is sorry for his sins. Every time I read one of his quotes on his "faith" I am saddened, or I do not trust it, due to how he acts. Again, McCain isn't much better. It's time to take your McCain hatred off the pedestal or take it elsewhere. Its fine to hate the sin he commited, but you do not hate that, you hate the man. If you just hated the sin you would not vote for Obama, either, unless you take the standpoint of going for the lesser of 2 evils. However, it is clear that a sin commited 20 years ago that has been forgiven by the people it affected and by God, should be forgiven by you, but you still hold McCain accountable, and thus, it is clear that you do not hate the sin, you hate the sinner.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 6:13:25 PM

    175 PATRIOTS CAN SAVE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
    BY NOMINATING THE TRUER DEMOCRAT

    The fate of the United States ??? and the future of the Democratic Party ??? now rests with a minimum of 175 Democratic delegates who must now exercise their mature political judgment in the service of their country, and turn away from Obama to support Senator Clinton.

    As of now, Obama has about 2229.5 delegate votes, with 1766.5 pledged delegates and 463 super delegates.

    Clinton has 1896.5 delegate votes, with 1639.5 pledged and 257 super delegates.

    Shift just 175 delegates from Obama to Clinton, and Obama???s power grab comes to a halt.

    There must be no nomination of Obama on the first ballot. Once Obama has failed to secure the nomination on the first ballot, the party will be able to reflect on who the nominee ought to be, based on the experiences of June, July, and August.

    Senator Clinton is pledged to an orderly, sane, and secure pullout. Clinton wants mandatory universal health care and a freeze on foreclosures. She wants to shift the federal gasoline tax away from motorists, truckers, and farmers and towards the Oil Industry.
    Obama is on the wrong side of all of these issues.

    Hillary Clinton is and has always been on the side of traditional Democratic Party values.

    We want a president from the Democratic Party, not from a small group of elite, libertarian Neo-Liberals. Lexington and Concord were started by a few dozen farmers.

    Does the Democratic Party still have 175 patriots with the courage to take a stand?

    PUMAS URGE YOU TO BRING TO AND END WHAT HAS BEEN A MOST FRAUDULENT CAMPAIGN
    We are PUMAs ??? Democrats who reject an automatic proxy vote.

    Instead, we are fighting for real Democratic Party values and the future of the party we love and still claim as our own.

    We call on the delegates to the Denver convention to search their consciences, their experiences in past elections, and their own common sense.

    Our party has had enough of defeat and retreat. We must not allow the DNC to impose on us yet another losing General Election candidate.

    Obama???s anemic poll numbers already foreshadow defeat in November, and his continuing sellout on the issues is only making matters worse.

    We urge you to reconsider your vote for Obama, and to instead vote for Senator Clinton ??? the strongest candidate, the people???s choice in the popular vote, and the candidate who has and will continue steadfastly to represent the core pillars of the Democratic Party.

    Vote to seat Michigan and Florida at full strength as elected in the January primary. Organize your fellow delegates to block Obama.

    Vote for Clinton, for victory in November, and for an end to the long nightmare of the Iraq war.
    Will Bower (in cooperation with other PUMAs)
    PUMA / Just Say NO DEAL
    PUMA08.com

  • Posted By: Jacob Freeze @ 07/14/2008 12:37:42 PM

    Obama didn't "find his faith." He found a tool to promote his political career, and when Jeremiah Wright made Obama's "faith" inconvenient, he threw it away.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/14/2008 12:45:57 PM

      Blame the DNC and democratic party elites for this mess. They pushed this guy through to the nomination, and now it is a complete mess

      • Posted By: raddave @ 07/14/2008 1:48:15 PM

        Blame the democratic voters, because Obama had more delegates (not including Super-Delegates, than Sen. Clinton

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/14/2008 1:52:36 PM

          The vote was a statistical tie. It was the superdelegates who did not fulfill their obligation to pledge their vote to the candidate who had the best chance of winning, and who would make the best president. They caved to the pressure or Kennedy, Kerry, Dean, and Pelosi. They worried about disenfranchising young, new, and black voters, but they didn't mind disenfranchising loyal moderate democrats.

          • Posted By: raddave @ 07/14/2008 6:11:59 PM

            There was no stastistical tie. Obama had more delegates.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/14/2008 1:53:24 PM

          Then again you make a good point. The superdelegates can still change their mind at the convention

      • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/14/2008 12:53:11 PM

        Dead on News, the best candidate was cheated out of the nomination by a totally inexperienced politico who invited republicans to become "democrats for a day" -- I'm going to be a republican for a day this year and vote for McCain. He won't run for a second term, and then maybe we can get a better candidate, someone who is actually qualified for the job.

        • Posted By: the_shelton @ 07/14/2008 1:09:35 PM

          You are obiously the most ignorant person I have seen, maybe next to all the ones who voted for Bush, just waiting for a good one to come along.

  • Posted By: tboz6547 @ 07/14/2008 5:50:46 PM

    Seriously you people all need to get a grip!
    If the guy says he's a christian he's a christian. To borrow some of your own rhetoric, "God will be the judge!"
    Not you, not Karl Rove, not John Hagee, not James Dobson....

    As I stated earlier, the whole religious right has been getting played by the Republicans for years. They had the power at plenty of points during the Reagan or the Bush admin to pass legislation banning gay marriages, ending abortion, putting prayer in the schools, requiring everyone to attend mass on Sundays, etc....

    They have done none of these things but they get your continued support. I don't understand it! Your all a bunch of pawns enabling the corporatocracy and war mongering policies of the Republican party. I'm sure you have all read your bibles as I have, and there is no doubt in my mind that Jesus was not on these people's side...

    By the way, Ive followed this campaign religiously (not a pun) and still couldnt tell you exactly what sect of Chistianity that McCain or Hillary are a part of it? We've dissected more than one of Obama's pastors, weve seen the church he attends, we've debated it ad nauseum, when is enough going to be enough?

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 6:05:48 PM

      McCains Faith:

      ABC NEWS
      September 17, 2007 11:53 AM
      Bret Hovell Reports:

      John (McCain) the Baptist

      EXCERPT: In John McCains words:

      I was raised in an Episcopal church and attended high school at a high school called Episcopal High School. I have attended North Phoenix Baptist Church for many (15) years. - John McCain

  • Posted By: john cain @ 07/13/2008 10:43:56 PM

    Hussein is a muslim. No two ways about it. The majority of Americans believe it to be true. The minority who take Hussein at his word can continue to live in ignorance.

    • Posted By: nopartyaffiliation123 @ 07/13/2008 10:59:11 PM

      Well, in this case, a Muslim will be the next President of the US. You bigots filled with hatred have no chance of manipulating the election this time.

      • Posted By: darbyshaw @ 07/13/2008 11:06:56 PM

        Are people being bigots because we believe that he has Muslim background and he is now sidestepping that issue? The man is half black and half white - so you can't technically say any black or white people are be bigots.

        • Posted By: nopartyaffiliation123 @ 07/13/2008 11:11:52 PM

          Doesn't matter what he is at this point, what matters is that he is leading by 6 points in OH, MO and VA, 8 points in PA and MI and he is only down 2 points in AZ (McCaint home state). And these polls are very generous to McCane (or McWar, or McMugabe, or McRecession...). Like I said, no chance this time.

          • Posted By: darbyshaw @ 07/13/2008 11:29:11 PM

            I agree - I believe Hussein (I use this not to be a "bigot" but because this is the name BO used until just recently and yet another example of him changing to please the voters) will be the next President, but I am saddened to think that he will be viewed as the first Black president. He is more white than black (my opinion - read my posting at 6:46:28) and I feel he has been disloyal using the "black" card to win this election.

            • Posted By: xeyeldinTX @ 07/14/2008 9:28:25 AM

              Where is your credible evidence that he used his middle name until recently? I am simply flummoxed by those who remain steadfastly determined to be ignorant. What do you do, hold your fingers in your ears when faced with facts, and yell so you won't hear the truth? This continuous raising of the "Muslim" scare card is evidence that you just don't have anything fact wise to throw at the man.

              • Posted By: darbyshaw @ 07/14/2008 6:04:58 PM

                Take two seconds and look at over half of the articles on his schooling in Indonesia. He was registered as Muslim and did attend a Muslim. His stepfather was a Muslim and attended masses there. He has even been quoted as saying "used to be a Muslim". I don't have any issue with the fact he used to be Muslim - it is that there is denial about it now. My issue with this man is that he has used the "black" card and has no "African American" history in his family at all and to get this background went to Rev Wright to get learn the black roots of the country? I know he went by Barry as a child but as a teenager and in college he did often go by Hussein - don't care about that either, again making changes for image and votes.

            • Posted By: raddave @ 07/14/2008 12:54:36 PM

              Obama never used the name Hussein, he went by Barry until he was in College, then he started going by Barack.

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 12:14:11 AM

            Rasmussen Reports Polling
            Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
            Sunday, July 13, 2008

            For the second straight day, the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll shows that the race for the White House is TIED.

            TIED:
            McCain 43%
            Obama 43%

            If leaners counted: TIED again
            McCain 46%
            Obama 46%

            For the second straight day, the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll shows that the race for the White House is tied. Sunday???s numbers show Barack Obama and John McCain each attracting 43% of the vote. When "leaners" are included, the two candidates are tied at 46%.

        • Posted By: muslimsforpresidents @ 07/14/2008 1:52:07 AM

          that is not the point, I have a sweedish name and I am jewish, but there is no commentary about the fact that my sweedish last name means something it is not. And when you post statements like that shows either you have lived a very shelter life, or your a bigot. Your argument in the last statement truly shows the type of person, unfortunately your are. Your lucky I am not HDavidson all over you. I am letting you off easy for the moment. There are six of us who post under our blog name, three muslims, one christian scientist and two jews. We have collectively lived over 300 yrs. You can fool us, so don't try to bs.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 07/14/2008 2:04:33 PM

      11% does not make a majority. That is how many people believe that Obama is a Muslim.

    • Posted By: muslimsforpresidents @ 07/14/2008 1:47:40 AM

      well my number four bigot behind CC Hollypin Voteno, and now this putz, wow incredible. Your mama is a muslim, your father is a muslim, as a matter of fact there are 1.2 billion muslims in the world. Nowhere to hide trailer trash, go back to your box, and never come back.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 5:58:13 PM



    PRO-HILLARY website launched. Anyone who would like to sign the pledge (reiterated below and on the site), here is the link to the site: http://www.together4us.com/

    REMEMBER THIS MEDIA BLITZ AGAINST HILLARY NON STOP? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

    THE BYLAWS COMMITTE VOTE UNFAIRLY IN THE EYES OF MANY!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1whezcwSrQE



    ALL the more to sign the pledge (repeated below) on this webiste www.together4us.com

    THE PLEDGE OF TOGETHERNESS: SPREAD THE WORD!

    We stand together with her 18 million voters in pursuit of all of the following:

    Bring us together by honoring Hillary Clinton and her supporters at the Democratic National Convention in Denver by:

    Placing her name into nomination (following traditional protocol)

    Ensuring a roll-call vote

    Inviting her to speak, during prime-time, on August 26th, the 88th anniversary of Women's Suffrage

    Bring us together by adoption of policies on the Platform Committee that Hillary Clinton has championed.

    Bring us together through reform of the primary and caucus system to reflect the basic principle of one person - one vote.

    Bring us together through outspoken denunciation of all gender bias, racism and other forms of discrimination.

    Bring us together by making a concerted effort to retire her campaign debt.

    We are being asked to embrace Party Unity without the fair representation of Hillary Clinton and her 18 million voters. Party Unity requires bilateral action. We ask Barack Obama and the DNC to respond.


    HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS will never forget the mean-spirited and sexist-based dialogue the MainStreamMedia news reporters and political pundits spewed 24/7 about Hillary from the time she entered into the Presidential race right up through the very last primary. No future female Presidential candidate should ever be treated in this despicable manner again. This video provides a barrage of clips on what she put up with in the media:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/14/2008 4:51:52 PM

    Hi Military Wife -- you know I've been asking this question for a couple of days now. I have not received one - not one satisfactory answer. Maybe you could help me -- since you seem to be an expert on Christianity.

    On what Christian path was McCain taking when he abandoned his disabled wife and 3 kids for a younger, richer beer heiress...and then abandoned her after she had a stroke - to learn to walk on her own.

    BTW -- it is a pattern he has not broken. He abandoned his values when he got into bed with the big corporations who do not care about us: Haliburton, KBR, BLACKWATER, BIG OIL -- are not interested in America anymore. They are international now - they want cheap labor and go overseas for it. They move their headquarters overseas - so they don't pay taxes back to us -- you know - the taxes we've been paying into their war machine.

    McCain fully intends to keep Iraq going -- it's not good business for his corporate bedfellows if we pull out. How Christian is that?

    • Posted By: military wife @ 07/14/2008 5:53:17 PM

      military wife here just letting you know that I'm not thrilled with McCain either, I'm not sure that he is a Christian any more than Obama is, but there is just too many red flags about Obama that I'm just not comfortable with. McCain isn't perfect either, but I don't think that he will cave into the demands of the anti-american wackos like the code pink witches or hand America over to the Islamofaciast terrorists like Obama will.

    • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 5:02:59 PM

      I'm going to ask you one last time to stop with this. I have given you an answer, and you have not given me one in return, so stop sitting here and acting all-knowing about it please, it is getting rather tiresome.

      You refuse to even listen or read people's responses, that much is clear, so why do you ask for an answer to your question?

      You still have not answered mine and still harp on your off-topic attempt at diverting people from realizing that Obama is not Christian just to slander McCain.

      Please knock it off, it is rather tiresome.

      • Posted By: tboz6547 @ 07/14/2008 5:23:51 PM

        So you get to decide who is and who isn't Christian? Whether Obama is a christian or not is his business... Who made you the decider?

        • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 5:31:31 PM

          Where did I say I decide if someone is Christian or not? I said according to what I have been taught he isn't. Understand?

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