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  • Posted By: John1one @ 07/14/2008 5:11:53 PM

    Article VI of the US Constitution states;
    The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.
    So all you Christians out there who want to hold Obama and McCain's feet to the flames; pull the beam out of your own eye, before pointing out the splinter in someone else's. If we (myself included) all lived a moral, scriptural life, we would be electing a LEADER, instead of debating a couple of charlatans.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/14/2008 5:48:33 PM

      Obama has raised the issue on his own, so he has to deal with these comments

  • Posted By: enviro-offender @ 07/14/2008 4:49:45 PM

    How about this... Everybody here leave the basement and go get a job so when Obama Bin Laden becomes the Great King of the U.S. I wont have to worry about my government support pay check because all of you will of found a job! NOW GO.

    • Posted By: saminiowa @ 07/14/2008 5:39:28 PM

      I have been laid off twice in the last three years from hard working factory jobs because China and Mexico could do it cheaper. I am in college now because THERE ARE NO MORE JOBS!
      ...Oh wait, ...yes I think my current minnimum wage job qualifies.
      I'm sorry. Why was I upset? $7.30/hr. is plenty to feed my wife and three year old son. I just don't have medical insurance. No big deal. We just won't get sick.

      • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 5:47:29 PM

        That is unfortunate, my uncle who is a single parent is in the same boat, and he went to college...

        However, what's going to happen when Obama raises the minimum wage? What do you think will happen? More people will get laid off, more immigrants will get hired, and you will not be the only one in your situation. Unfortunately the world has decayed this way. That's why it's important for anti-immigration laws and the like, and for companies to own up to their actions. I honestly think it comes down to the lower levels, not the high side of government, more often than not, though both the Republicans and Democrats are at fault there as well.

        I will pray for you today, hope things get better,

        God bless!

  • Posted By: neocon @ 07/14/2008 4:42:42 PM

    If we are to be politically correct as we live our faith then by all means all roads lead to Heaven. Can a Christian believe in multiple roads leading to Heaven and God Almighty? The Holy Scriptures are the key to answering that question. Obama claims to be a Christian, believes just that. Along with his claim of following Jesus, he also believes in a woman???s right to kill her unborn babies, and the homosexual???s right to legitimize their lifestyle. The list goes on and on. No truly born again believer in Christ would or could accept any of the above cultural issues as being God ordained. Most Christians know by heart the verse below quoted by God Almighty Himself, ???Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me,??? John 14:6. Since we only have one God and Jesus Christ is God, when He tells us that no man comes to the Father, but by Him, He uses definite terms. He disregards all political correctness and plainly states the facts. How, then, can it be so difficult to understand?

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/14/2008 5:01:17 PM

      Christianity is far more complex that a couple of wedge issues. It is up to God to judge

      • Posted By: neocon @ 07/14/2008 5:05:29 PM

        Being politically correct by being tolerant of all lifestyles actually excludes Christians. I???m speaking about truly born again believers in Christ who refuse to give in to the norm of a society blatantly disregarding Gods moral laws. Political correctness in the not so distant future will include being intolerant of Christians, it will be politically correct not to include Christians as a part of society.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/14/2008 5:09:24 PM

          Political correctness should be about not toterating intolerance. Christians are generally wonderful people. Saying political correctness is intolerant of Christians is like saying Christianity is all about gay bashing and being judgemental

          • Posted By: tboz6547 @ 07/14/2008 5:16:13 PM

            well isn't it (Christianity)?

            • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 5:34:21 PM

              Christianity is about believing in Jesus Christ as your personal Savior from sin, and struggling the good struggle with sin, and trying to help others in their struggles as well. I hope and pray you realize this before the end.

              God bless

    • Posted By: befair @ 07/14/2008 5:07:35 PM

      Sin is sin, is sin. Those who choose to pick out one or two such as homosexuality or abortion need to understand, that in the eyes of God we are all sinners. Why do you pick out these two sins and not mention the sins that you have commited in your life. Do you not undersand that your sins grieve God's heart just as much as anyone else's. The bible tells us to let the one who is without sin cast the first stone. If we do that, there will be no stone throwing today.

      • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 5:16:30 PM

        Agreed partially, but you should also note that we shouldn't just be ok with ANY sin, because the way you put it you make it seem that "we all sin so Obama's stand on abortion and gay marriage is ok". That's not right. NEVER should you tolerate ANY sin, not within yourself or in someone else. Now, you shouldn't hate the person because of it, you should hate the sin, and pray for the person, and try to help him realize the error in his ways, just as I would expect him to do the same for me.

        The verse you cite is talking about a woman who commited adultery, whom they want to stone to death. Jesus tells them that whoever has not sinned can cast the first stone, to show that they have all sinned and are deserving of death too. BUT He says to repent. You are leaving that part out. Repent, or you will not be saved. The woman remaining there in fear of Jesus shows her faith that He is God and COULD throw that stone, but I am assured by this that she repented.

        The difference here is that Obama is trying to win votes by saying he is for abortion and gay marriage, and that he doesn't think it is wrong. That is not repentance, and is therefore not anywhere near the same context as the verse you have cited. Make sense?

        Of course McCain is guilty just as much, for some things he plans to do without realizing they are sin, and thus this election, again, is between the lesser of 2 evils. And it becomes clearer and clearer day by day that the lesser of the 2 evils is McCain.

    • Posted By: Just Us Plz! @ 07/14/2008 4:47:04 PM

      Does a liar have no right to lie, and how do we stop thieves from stealing, outside of blasphemy all sins are equal in the eyes of God, do not judge those who are sinners same as you saved by grace!

      • Posted By: military wife @ 07/14/2008 5:01:58 PM

        That doesn't even make any sense. There was no judging going on, just stating the Biblical facts. Non Christians always acuse Christians of judging them when they can't handle simple biblical truths. If what God says in his word is true for the Christian, it is also true for everybody else too. They just don't want to accept the truth.

      • Posted By: neocon @ 07/14/2008 4:52:42 PM

        All are sinners, we all fall short of the glory of God. Oops no PC there. What Jesus did was to take our punishment. He took our place on that cross. He died on that cross for you and for me. He died so we wouldn???t have to. We are all guilty of sinning and just like criminals in our society today who, being found guilty, are required to pay for their crimes. Someone had to pay for the crimes of humanity so humanity wouldn???t have to. Jesus did that. In God???s eyes until we become born again believers in His Son we are all guilty. We can???t take any other road to rectify that truth. If there are many roads that lead to Heaven, then Jesus died for nothing, and our faith is in vain.

      • Posted By: neocon @ 07/14/2008 4:50:20 PM

        You may be the most wonderful loving and giving person on the face of this earth, but if your name is not written in the Lamb???s Book of Life, then when you die you won???t be heading for Heaven, you???ll be headed in the opposite direction. No amount of political correctness can change that truth.

    • Posted By: mcleodmn @ 07/14/2008 4:57:23 PM

      Take your filth to "hell" when you go. Your intolerance and ignorance are disgusting.

      • Posted By: neocon @ 07/14/2008 5:00:04 PM

        No matter if you???re a Democrat or Republican or whatever, if you are a born again believer in Jesus Christ you???ll vote for the person who is less likely to promote evil and perverse lifestyles. God will place in that position who He wants and if that person be someone who is going to bring this country to the brink of disaster that???s up to God. If we as a nation elect B. Hussein Obama to the office of the Presidency then it may very well be a curse on this nation for giving God the boot in almost all arenas of our private and public lives.

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/14/2008 12:19:32 AM

    Hi Sharenews - you seem pretty patriotic to me. Maybe you could explain why McCain didn't know the difference between Shiites and Sunnis. Maybe he doesn't know that Al Qaeda (who attacked us on 9/11) are connected with the Sunnis from Saudi Arabia. Everything about Bin Laden is connected to Saudi Arabia and Pakistan - but McCain and his friend Bush don't seem to recognize that. Personally I'm hesitant to be 80% of stupidity. I like to know what's going on.

    Maybe since McCain has been a kept man - ever since he left his disabled wife and 3 kids for a young beer heiress - doesn't need to worry himself about foreign affairs -- he has everything he needs...money, power - oh maybe the younger beer heiress wants him to be king so she can be the queen. Thank you for helping me think this through -- this is a true revelation!

    • Posted By: RetiredMarine @ 07/14/2008 1:23:46 PM

      Would you know the difference between a Sunni and a Shite if you saw them? Actually, Al Quaeda has many more connections than simply in Saudi Arabia.

      You continually bring up a persons marriage situation in ALL of your posts, maybe one day we will be as perfect as you and then we can cast stones as well.

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 07/14/2008 5:32:20 PM

        NOT MY JOB TO KNOW the difference, however as the "commander guy"...GW You better knwo the difference, and on top of that, McCain did not know what a KURD was a recently as 3 weeks ago, when asked he replied "what the hell is a kurd". Guess Lieberman was not there to feed him his thoughts...

  • Posted By: keeper of the fire @ 07/14/2008 4:49:39 PM

    Søren Kierkegaard is the father of existentialism not Friedrich Nietzsche. Anyone who has done any reading on religion or philosophy knows that.

    The article appears to be a puff piece to promote Obama as an ostensibly religious person, but not one of the judgmental types. Its a pity they won't get paid for the ad.

    • Posted By: debbew1100 @ 07/14/2008 5:26:11 PM

      I completely agree with you!

  • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 4:36:56 PM

    mcleodmn, what good is your "joking" about our faith's doing, may I ask?

    Just Us Plz, in what way shape or form is anyone on this board a racist bigot? And who think's they are God's quality control? And just wow at accusing people of all this stuff and then saying they put Bush in office. I'll have you know I refused to vote for Bush, but I didn't vote for Kerry either.

    And legaleagle, you have to actually BELIEVE in Christ as your Savior in order to be forgiven. If you do not repent, you will not be forgiven. That's the truth of the matter, so I hope and pray you realize that as well.

    • Posted By: Just Us Plz! @ 07/14/2008 4:42:10 PM

      Way shape or form, read below on the comments a man made about eating his shoe if a black man is elected, read the bias against the muslim faith, thats way shape and form. And if someone says they are a christian, who are you to say otherwise???

      • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 4:58:48 PM

        A Christian concerned with others being led astray, because I care for their salvation as well, just as I care for Obama's. In my opinion he doesn't have it, according to what I have been raised to believe, and according to God's Word which has educated me in my life. A seminary student should know this.

        • Posted By: befair @ 07/14/2008 5:16:57 PM

          I hope it wasn't Jerry Falwell University.

  • Posted By: Stano @ 07/14/2008 2:37:14 PM

    Obama in his book The Audicity of Hope states the following: "I will stand with the Muslims when the political winds turn ugly". How how are we to take this, believe me he is no Christian.

    Actually the whiners are the Democrats starting with Chuckie Schumer and on down the line.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 07/14/2008 5:07:34 PM

      Include the whole quote from Obama's book "Whenever I appear before immigrant audiences, I can count on some good-natured ribbing from my staff after my speech; according to them, my remarks always follow a three-part structure: "I am your friend," "[Fill in the home country] has been a cradle of civilization," and "You embody the American dream." They're right, my message is simple, for what I've come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.

      "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

      You see it has a totally different meaning than what you are trying to imply.

    • Posted By: befair @ 07/14/2008 3:51:03 PM

      We should take it the same way we took it when Pres. Bush had to get on national TV after 9/11 and defend the many decent people of muslim faith who live in this country, because many of them were being mis-treated simply because of who they were. Pres. Bush said we should not blame the Muslim people or their faith because of the actions of radical fanatics. Why then do you try to find something sinister in Sen. Obama's innocent statement.

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/14/2008 5:06:03 PM

    Um speculators, my dear Hope. And those who manipulate the market.

  • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 5:04:11 PM

    Mj, the truth about oil and Obama's beliefs on it:

    Now, you keep claiming all of this knowledge about the Oil Industry, but I guarantee you you know very little about it.

    You claim all these major oil corporations are voting for McCain because Obama is threatening them? Ha ha ha, you really need to understand this then:

    1. Oil prices are not decided by Big Oil. They are decided by OPEC, a union of countries around the world, of which the US IS NOT A PART. It is comprised mainly of middle east countries but also has some south american and asian ones as well. Oil prices will remain high UNTIL these countries increase production, or China stops their large demand for it. Period.

    2. Oil companies in America are taxed 40% of their profits by the government. That's almost half of what they make, and the government does NOTHING to promote the high risk drilling(about 1 in every 3 wells drilled is economically successful, and the average cost for drilling and completing a well is a million dollars, so those that aren't economically successful are obviously losses of up to and sometimes over a million dollars).

    3. The majority of oil companies in america are small independants. THESE companies make QUITE A BIT LESS than Big OIl does, because whereas Big Oil owns everything they need from the rigs, to the pipelines, to the refineries, to the trucks, to the gas stations, the majority of companies own only a small intermediate step of the process, and must pay fees to the other steps in order for their products to be used. This means that that 40% can add on about another 15% to these fees. That's 55% taxes. You complain about your 20% income tax, yet these people are paying 55%. Seems you are being rather selfish.

    4. Raising taxes on oil companies will only give more money to the government, and make it even harder for our own oil companies to come up with economical completions. How on earth does it make sense to restrict our own oil production, in a time of high demand, and expect the prices to be lowered.

    5. Of every gallon of gasoline sold at the pump, Big Oil profits 10 cents. The Government profits 30 cents. Obama wants to tax the oil companies and increase the governments gain. Let me put this in terms you can understand. Lets say you grow corn and sell it at a market, and you make a dollar per ear and the government makes 3 dollars. The government has not done anything to help you grow that corn, but they expect a hefty margin of profit at that stage. Now the government wants to make MORE off it while you make less.... is THAT how you want to spend your beloved money?

    This is just a bit of actual facts for those of you, like you mj, who seem to be confused on the matter. I hope this helps you realize how things actually work, so you don't make these false claims and accusations anymore.

    God bless

  • Posted By: Just Us Plz! @ 07/14/2008 4:29:53 PM

    Hope for america truly believes God has ordained them to delineate who is a christian, a true joke if I ever heard one. My Jesus taught tolerence and patience not forcing your own beliefs on someone else by rather showing them the way through you own actions. Hope Ive been to seminary and if you want to compare biblical IQ's than touche!!

    • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 4:57:03 PM

      Where have I enforced my belief on anyone? I have only stated my beliefs and stated that Obama does not fit them. Have I told anyone that they must conform? No, I have however said I pray for them and hope they do. That is hardly enforcing anything, but thanks for the accusation.

      I'm am not ashamed of defending my faith by defending what I have been brought up to believe, "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is God's power for the salvation of everyone who believes, of the Jew first and of the Greek as well." Romans 1:16.

      I am saddened by you insulting me and my faith by trying to claim that I am forcing it on anyone. I have done no such thing here.

      God bless

  • Posted By: ombrahma @ 07/14/2008 4:19:20 PM

    I am not interested in Obama's faith, or how he worships and who he worships. All who worship think they worship god, when in fact they worship their concept of god. I am interested in finding out if Obama as the president will protect my right to worship god of my conept in the manner that I deem appropriate, so far as it does not impinge upon anybody's fundamental human rights. Those who question Obama's religion or faith must be full of self-doubts of their own faith. They are looking into Obama for affirmation of their beliefs because I suspect they are not sure about it. Then, of course, there is the money motive. In last twenty years the evangelicals have exploited the politics for their financial gains. May be they feel Obama will not be so easy to exploit.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/14/2008 4:56:27 PM

      Sorry, but Obama is the one who keeps brining faith up, so he has to accept the dialogue that goes with it. Personally I think he is acting rather naive about the whole thing.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/14/2008 4:32:24 PM

      This is an amazingly insightful comment. Thank you for not just quoting something from the bible. You actually used your brain when commenting. There should be more like you on this site.

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/14/2008 2:18:13 PM

    Hi Pete Kent - you seem to be a scholar on the path to Christianity--

    Maybe you - because no one else has been able to answer me - can answer this:

    On what Christian path was McCain taking when he abandoned his disabled wife and 3 kids for a younger, richer beer heiress and then abandoned her when she had a stroke...leaving her to learn to walk on her own.

    • Posted By: WRpeach @ 07/14/2008 2:42:38 PM

      Well mj it, a.k.a. holier than thou, I guess you dismiss some of the prophets in the Bible; Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Daniel and David - all were sinners. How do you justify Obama???s support of infanticide? Not only did he vote against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, in the full Senate he was the only one who spoke against it. "People will know you by the company you keep;" who are Obama???s friends? And who is your man in bed with? Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn (unrepentant Weather Underground terrorists), Jeremiah Wright (race-mongering, apostate preacher) and Tony Rezko (Syrian-born, Racketeer, slum landlord) just to name a few. Looks like a consistent and current pattern of bad judgment on Obama???s part and you are whining about McCain past, which you nor any one knows if he has ask repentance for. You need to find something else to whine about.

      • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 3:47:15 PM

        Amen

        • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/14/2008 4:53:12 PM

          Aaaw! You found a friend. The two of you can get together and have a book burning party. By the way don't forget about those EVIL CARTOONS. Go Get them!!!

          You would never in your life dare to question anything in those books , because that is what the Bibles are, they are books, censored books at that. I definitely believe in a higher power than ourselves, just not the blonde blue eyed man that you worship. If you read or used your brain you would know that this could not be an correct description of someone living in that region at that time. But logic is definitely something that you and those like you care about. I also find it somewhat amusing that in your opinion everyone who does not believe as you do is going to Hell. So what is the difference between your thinking and that of the Muslims?

  • Posted By: iato @ 07/14/2008 4:51:31 PM

    WHAT FAITH A MAN HAS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF HIS PERSONALITY. VOTES OR NO VOTES, OBAMA SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME CLEAN WITH HIS RELIGION AND HOPE THAT PEOPLE VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE OF WHO HE IS, WHAT HE STANDS FOR AND WHAT HE HOPES TO ACHIEVE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND NOT BECAUSE OF HIS RELIGION!!!

  • Posted By: keeper of the fire @ 07/14/2008 4:47:52 PM

    Søren Kierkegaard is the father of existentialism not Friedrich Nietzsche. Anyone who has done any reading on religion or philosophy knows that.
    The article seems to be a puff piece to promote Obama as an ostensibly religious person, but not one of the judgmental types. Its a pity they won't get paid for the ad.

  • Posted By: Kate from Ann Arbor @ 07/14/2008 2:34:25 PM

    As someone who was raised a Catholic Christian, I am amazed at how Obama can come from such an diverse faith background and yet still grasp the heart of things. Christianity is a religion where people are taught (if they read the Bible) that they will not get into heaven unless they perform acts of mercy. They must feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and dying and even the prisoners to know that their faith is more than just words. And Christianity tells people that they can grow towards perfection only if they learn to love their enemies. It always seems that Obama has made more progress on that front than many of his critics.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/14/2008 4:46:57 PM

      Great Comment. Thanks

    • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 2:45:30 PM

      Excuse me but your statement about Christianity is flawed. The OT of the Bible contains the promise of a Savior, Jesus Christ(HENCE Christianity), but at that time salvation could only be obtained by works alone, unless they believed in the promise of the Messiah. The NT is about Jesus and his life, death, and resurection for our sins. THAT is how you get to Heaven, because of Him, not through showing mercy and being "perfect", because no man can be perfect, all are doomed to sin and death, but have salvation in Christ. Now its true that this faith requires works to be completed, as in, you can't have true faith without a desire and attempt to be good, but everyone still fails in some way or another, and hence the underlying point is that salvation comes through Christ alone.

      As for Obama's so called grasp of Christianity, I dare say he does not grasp it at all:

      Is pro-choice(aka pro-aboriton)

      Was "brought into the faith" by one of the most racist hypocritical "reverands" in the world, and yet stayed there until he was running for president, and now, of course, renounces him.

      Said "I'm still open to being comopletely worng".... that's called denial of your faith, and as a Christian, that's also known as denying God and a ticket to hell.

      For Gay marriage-Christianity teaches that this is sin, and all logic and biology states this isn't right as well, but he is for it.

      Seems to me like he needs to grasp Christianity a heck of a lot more before he can claim to be one.

      I pray he does, maybe I would actually consider voting for him if he truelly was an honest Christian. Unfortunately for him he is no where close.

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/14/2008 4:05:53 PM

        Unfortunately, you fail to recognize that there is a separation of church and state. All countries ruled by religion have been ruled cruelly.

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/14/2008 3:22:23 PM

    Well emmarcee - I've been asking for hours - one question:

    On what Christian path was McCain taking when he abandoned his disabled wife and 3 kids for a much younger, richer beer heiress and then abandoned her in her when she had a stroke - to learn to walk on her own?

    I'll ask it again. Just in case someone might have an answer. If no one has an answer - then I will have an answer.

    But thank you for thinking of me....btw: do you have an answer to that question?

    • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 3:25:34 PM

      And I asked you to explain to me what McCain's faith has to do with Obama's, yet you ignored it.

      Please answer my question, thanks.

      I also have answered your question below. Thanks, enough of this spam.

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/14/2008 3:59:13 PM

        McCain's faith should be called into question because he is the Republican frontrunner for President. If people want to start questioning Obama's faith and how it will affect his potential presidency, they need to do the same with McCain. I don't really care if a candidate worships the FSM, as long as they do the job. I find the entire religion/president argument asinine, but hey, for fairness let's compare both.

        • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/14/2008 4:44:23 PM

          Yes, absolutely, to be honest the only reason that SOME people are grabbing on to this subject like pit bulls is because of his name and yes the color of his skin. I am 45 years old and do not ever remember any presidential candidate or any politician being picked apart like this. They are praying for something to come out about him so that they can feel justified in their thinking.,

          I totally agree with you his religion is his business, as long as he does the job that he is elected for.

    • Posted By: emmarcee @ 07/14/2008 3:50:10 PM

      we are not trying look at the skeletons in the closet. He has been married to this wife for many years anyway. Is it the first time in USA that you saw somebody divorcing? May be you are living in a bubble. May be in pakistan? There you just have to say "talakh" three times. or you can marry many times (even under age) like Obama Sr did. BTW the media allways talk about the marriage and divorce of Obama Sr. Are they planning to put any (fake) marriage certificates in the website? That will be a good idea. Cause time ago there was a word staring with B, that was in common use. .. well sorry you started it with your constant poking.

      • Posted By: raddave @ 07/14/2008 4:27:36 PM

        Go ahead and say it, Bastard. Even if Obama is one, SO WHAT?

  • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/14/2008 4:29:13 PM

    So ummm Since Newsweak says Obama will lose 33% of his voters because of his questionable religion. Surprise surprise NEWSWEAK is here to tell you what to think. And Of course, it is positive for the Obomination. Question, How much money do you think Newsweak alone saves the Oman in campaign funds by trying to debunk or smooth over any rough edges that the Oman might have? Does John McCain have a magazine that has been 99% completely commited to debunking any rumors about him or is this just a newsweak thing?

    • Posted By: Just Us Plz! @ 07/14/2008 4:36:51 PM

      Umm... If they were his voters he wouldnt lose them and "losing" 33% of any polutaion leaves almost 70% to be gained!!

  • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 07/14/2008 4:36:11 PM

    Good job newsweak, So far you have tried to smooth over
    Religion
    Sexual preference
    Ayers
    Rezko
    Wright
    Bitter americans
    Selma got me born
    57 states
    Michelle Obama
    Trinity church
    Elitism
    Terrorist ties
    his continued flip flopping
    Troop pullout
    fathers religion
    mothers religion
    throwing gramma from the bus
    throwing gramma under the bus
    Whoops got to cut the list short for now got to go but i will mention 2 articles on McCain Ive noticed to show you are unbiased.
    1>Read......Your choice CHANGE? Or the OLD GUY Very unbiased newsweak lol
    2>Read..... McCain doesnt need enemies, he has friends....Again very unbiased. lol
    NEWSWEAK, WHAT A PLACE TO VISIT WHEN YOU NEED TO BE TOLD WHAT TO THINK

  • Posted By: legaleagle007 @ 07/14/2008 4:27:28 PM

    I think that some of these religion phanatics are nuts! All this talk about who goes to heaven and who does not is totally not have to do anything with being president. I really don't think it has such great importance, only if he was some kind of terrorist, I just think that he has not really shown who he is....but for the guy who seems to think that only born again Christians go to heaven, wake up! That is not being a true follower of Christ. Jesus forgives ALL ....all of us regardless who we are and what we've done. And as far as heaven, it is surely what you make your life to be!

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/14/2008 4:12:36 PM

    Hey Hope -- thanks for responding. As a Christian I don't feel it is such a struggle. Love others as you would like them to love you. I get it.

    Now McCain who abandoned his disabled wife and 3 kids for a much younger, richer beer heiress and then abandoned her after she had a stroke to learn to walk on her own again....seems to have a pattern for swapping up for the next richer relationship. I'm not talking about McCain's father -- I'm talking about McCain and his actions. He left his values behind to get into bed with the big corporations who will do anything to get and keep him in office. They trust him to keep us in Iraq so they make more money. But sorry - I don't trust him. That's my judgement.

    Oh - you judge also - by your words below:

    The difference is what they do about it. McCain? I daresay I do believe he has repented. Obama? Again, I have yet to hear him be remorseful for anything he has ever done or said. Quite the difference if you ask me.

    Anyway - I hope you don't have to struggle with your Christian faith any longer - it's about loving your neighbor and your enemy - not selling your country or your American family down the river to your corporate buddies who want wars to keep their dollars churning.

    • Posted By: Hope for America @ 07/14/2008 4:27:06 PM

      Alas, here is your problem, you have stated it plain and simple. My pastor just preached about this yesterday, actually, from Romans Chapter 7, where it talks about "the things I do not want to do, I keep doing", talking about the body's sinful nature and the struggle, whicih has often been referenced for "fighting the good fight" as a Christian.

      And the truth of the matter is this. A mature Christian, someone mature in their faith, will admit that they struggle with SIN and their faith daily. That shows that they are conscious of their sins, and they are struggling to overcome them, which they CANNOT do, without Jesus.

      Anyone who thinks that they can just say Jesus died for me, yet be indifferent about what they do day to day, is not very mature in their faith.

      And I don't see where I was judging anyone in the statement of mine that you quoted, though if I was its plausible, as I am a sinner and make these mistakes. I at least try my best not to judge, and pray for forgiveness when I slip up. THAT is the mark of someone maturing in their faith, though I have a LONG, LONG way to go.

      I feel sorry for you if you think you should not struggle as a Christian. The world is full of sin and we are doomed to death in it. You cannot find salvation in the world, just as you cannot find peace from struggle with sin in the world. Only through Jesus and being resurrected through Him into HEAVEN can you find these things...

      I pray you come to realize that sooner rather than later...

      God bless

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