What a flake!
What a flake!
For the love of God, Obama did not swear in on the Qu'ran. Where do you get this?!
I will say what it seems that no one else is saying though: Being a Muslim is NOT a bad thing. In all this discussion about religion, I think it is important to remember that Islam, Christianity, and the other major faiths are wonderful doctrines for a moral life when they're not put into practice by fundamentalists who will judge others like the Almighty Himself...and then throw stones at anyone who does not "see the light." It will be a great day when separation of church and state is fully realized, this evil inter-religious fundamentalism is quelled, and it doesn't matter what religion our leaders practice.
You cant be a GOOD American and be good Muslim at the same time. Islam wants to destroy the West and if your a good muslim you would believe this and couldn't be a good American. If Obama is muslim, how could he be a good muslim and a good American?
Islam does not want to destroy America! There are some facets of radical Islam that wants to just like some facets of radical Christianity wants to destroy America's government. In fact, the ONLY domestic terrorist groups in America are Christian based. Get a grip on reality please!
Good Lord! The world is not black and white. You can be a good PERSON no matter what ethnicity, religion, citizenship, sexuality, amount of money, etc... you may happen to have. I don't believe one can be a "Good American." I believe we can only strive to be good people. Is this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7504607.stm) what "good americans" do? If you had been born a Muslim in Morocco or somewhere, would you condemn yourself the way you condemn others? I have just built you a scenario where Jesus' golden rule is glaringly obvious. It might do you well to reflect.
maybe you would like to elaborate on those core values......are they anything like live and let live.
that is falsehood.
what america is today is not what it used to be.
look in any book it will show you about christianity in america Labelled
the faith in christ jesus would prove to you down the ancestories of life.
now look at this country.
we have made it what it has become.....all because the people want to do what they want. no rulz, no respect, every man for himself. selfish people all bout themselves.
spend spend spend , debt debt debt, look what i have , look what they have, i have bigger house than you, i drive better car....whooo whoo look at me.
thats what this country is all about.
all ive heard on heard is ,,,what can the next president do for me?
me, me ,me,
WOW!!
ludicris, i tell ya.
nothing,, shud be about we.
we were not born for we.
WE WERE BORN FOR HIM.
ITS ABOUT HIM
JESUS CHRIST
BY THE WAY, NON BELIEVERS HAVE NOT MORALS.....EVEN THE SCRIPTURES SAY OUR HEARTS ARE WICKED.
BECOME A BELIEVER IN CHRIST AND THEN YOU CAN TELL ME U HAVE MORALS.
I DID NOT WRITE THE WORD OF GOD.
HIS WORD WILL NOT RETURN VOID
Wow, I would try a basic English class if I were you.
If this is the way yeshuaz girl tries to entice people and get them exited about christianity, no wonder so many are leaving the christian faith. She acts as if any one who wants to call themselves christian has to act like a wild eyed fanatic. Her posts read like the all capitalized scrawling dogma painted in red on the billboards of a lonely highway. Hey! Maybe she is the doomsday tagger of the texas highway!
Barak Hussein Obama's family is one-half Moslem. These relatives of his today live in Africa. These are not ancient ancesters decended 300 years ago from a similar ancester. They are his uncles, aunts, brothers, sisters, and cousins. Obama has stated in print that if a conflict developed between Moslem culture and Christian culture, he would stand with the Moslems. What does it take? The man may be legal citizen of the USA, but it is an accidental citizenship. Culturally he is a foreigner.
Obama has NEVER said anything like you purport about standing with Moslems. Get a life and stop passing lies. You are the most non-American living in this country and you should be ashamed of yourself. Grow some honor and values within your life or you may find out one day that the children you depend on when you are old and senile are just waiting for you to die. God does not like ugly or liars.
'Cultural foreigners'? Uhhhh, all Americans evolved from cultural foreigners. Remember that our ancestors were the rejects from other civilizations. I think our ancestors were herded onto a boat as outcasts and that's why our ancestors stayed here. I don't think 'cultural foreigner' is a very respectful term for any *one* American. If this term applies to one American? Please use it for all Americans.
Right on....my ancestors came from Croatia and Germany....both escaping oppression. joe1022joe would probably call me a cultural foreigner as well, since I know my heritage, right? These kind of people must have skipped out on American Historyclass in high school or something...how can anyone in the USA makes claims like joe is making? Folks, do some geneology on yourselves, for heaven's sake! Obama was born in the USA-so he is a US citizen. I find out all I can about who I vote for-and so far, the only shortcoming I have found so far in Obama is that he hasn't been around long....but am glad of that, because those who have "been around" in Washington are THE problem in Washington...we need a fresh start...
Okay! Wasn't that fun!? Let's talk about the economy or health care or something that actually matters to our well-being as a people.
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. Christianity is more than a religion to those of us who are believers in Christ. I wish for all of us to know Him. To believe in Christ does mean to accept Him and his Word as the whole truth and the only truth. In our society, we are expected to accept that there is no absolute truths and that everyone can believe how they want and that is truth to them. God has given us all the freedom to chose, but that doesn't mean everyone is right. That would be chaos! It sounds like Mr. Obama has accepting some of God's truths in Jesus Christ. I will be praying for him to truly seek Him in all matters. It sounds like he does truly mean well and want to help others. I hope he will truly do that with God's guidance even when it is not the popular thing to do. Sometimes standing up for God's principles that are found in the Bible are not popular in our society today. Christianity isn't a faith to condemn people but to help people find the truth and have peace in their lives and meaning. I could go on about some of things that Obama has supported that are in direct opposition to Christian principles, but if he is praying for God's guidance, God will show him. I hope we all all pray for our nation!
Very well-spoken! I know of plenty of Christians who hide behind the veil of Christianity, but they choose to lie, covet and steal (which happens to be against Christian teachings entirely).
There have been many great and inspirational religious leaders throughout time. I think most faith-based religions share same/like teachings. Religious preferences are not character-revealing by label alone. It is the path that each man chooses to *walk* vs. the shadow a man claims to walk within, that depicts real contributions to others in this lifetime.
"There are people in the world so hungry, that God cannot appear to them except in the form of bread."- Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)
I could not possible agree with you more.
People who have no confidence in their own faith or doubt their faith always look for affirmation by seeking who share their faith, and who agree with their questionable beliefs. Obama is more religious than all the child molesting priests, or the pastors who patronize prostitution, or padres and popes who live in pomp and posh surroundings with illgotten mafia money. Obama is professing to protect our right to practice religion and profess our faith as we choose to do it. I hope he will not be corrupted by the so called christians.
You can either choose to be duped by all the discourse intended to obfuscate the true character of Obama's religion, OR make an objective appraisal based on your own intelligence of the historical facts which are irrefutable. Obama is neither Christian nor Muslim. Unless he has had one of his very frequent epiphanies in the last week or two, he is a disciple and practitioner of Black Liberation Theology whose tenants have been amply articulated by Jeremiah Wright and James Cone. For 20yrs. Obama, under the tutorial of the fanatical Reverend Wright, immersed himself and his family in Black Liberation Theology, a Marxist derivative which rejects Christianity; and, which professes that the White race is equivalent to the Devil. It's amazing that anyone would be shocked at Obama's perverted view of the Bible. Rev. Wright's mentor, Black Liberation theologian, James Cone, in his book "For My People" states: "The Christian faith does not possess in its nature the means for analyzing the structure of capitalism. Marxism, as a tool of social analysis, can disclose the gap between appearance and reality, and thereby help Christians to see how things really are." It is this logic, reinforced by his mother who was an avowed Marxist, which has schooled Obama to seek economic parity in America thru income redistribution; i.e. Marxist Socialism; and, is an overriding theme of his campaign. Further, noone should be surprised at Obama's proclamation that American is NOT a Christian Nation. Although the Obama campaign has painstakingly attempted to lay a smokescreen to confuse the past religious associations of their candidate, hopefully a Christian America will send Obama an unmistakable message in November. It's what you get with an un-vetted candidate whose only skill is reciting a text from a teleprompter while even Jesse Jackson admits Obama arrogantly looks down his nose and "talks down to the audience." A characteristic which was front and center in Obama's comments about bitter folks in Small Town America who "Cling to their religion." Greg Neubeck
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To Greg Nuebeck,
YOU TRY TO SOUND INTELLIGENT BUT WHEN KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE READ YOUR COMMENTS, IT IS BLATANTLY OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE EITHER: [1.] CLUELESS, or; [2.] FULL OF ***.
First, Obama's affiliation with Abyssinian Baptist Church in New York, and longtime membership with Trinity United Church of Christ in Illinois are two "mainstream Christian denominations" which go back hundreds of years. If you had true Christian experience you would understand all the nuances associated with that, and would not make a fool of yourself trying to associate Obama with . . . as you call it "disciple of Black Liberation Theology with a Marxist Derivative".
If it makes you feel good, I read your complete comment and found 11 variations of lies and fabrications you used to draw false conclusions about Obama's faith. But the most pathetic part is that you are too stupid to know this particular practice of twisting tidbits of information to discredit the Christian faith of Blacks & Biracials is an old Jim Crow racist tradition used for nearly 100 years. Americans have been there, done that, and moved on.
As an example check your history books and you will see how a list of institutional news mediums, politicians, industrialist, justice systems, and associations desperately tried to crush Rev. Dr Martin Luther King's Christian credibility by claiming he was a Maxist and Communist sympathizer. It didn't work on Dr. King in the '60's, and it won't work on Senator Barack Obama.
Here is a bit of advice, let go of the fear and hatred. Step into the light of hope and love. Stop trying to disguise hatred under the pretense of intelligence. Your sins betray you before you turn the corner. Let it go, and learn to love and hope.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
GOD BLESS OBAMA!
Its great to see that we're all focusing on the importance of Obama's middle name and religious faith rather than the fact that 80% of Americans salaries have either declined or stagnated since 1973! Politicians and corporations are laughing all the way to the bank while we sit around and blame each other for our problems. Stay scared of the extremist liberal/fundamentalist Christian and keep working your dead end job!
All those who question anybody's faith are instigated by the big business called religion. The ministers and the pastors make money by preying on the guilty feeling of the parishioners. If Obama will not be as willing to use religion for political purpose, the religious leaders may not be able to exploit the parishioners as much, and it may cut in the income of the so called Christian, Inc.
All those who question anybody's faith are instigated by the big business called religion. The ministers and the pastors make money by preying on the guilty feeling of the parishioners. If Obama will not be as willing to use religion for political purpose, the religious leaders may not be able to exploit the parishioners as much, and it may cut in the income of the so called Christian, Inc.
See someone agrees that we should care less of what religious beliefs a candidate decides their moral values derive from. Whether or not they have the same values as us does not matter. We should not concern ourselves in with beliefs or doctrine a person running for President has in their true hearts.
Personal beliefs are not a concern and we should be sensitative to Obama's Muslim beliefs.
The definition of a christian is "Christ like." Jesus declared "I am the way the truth and the life. No man comes to the Father but by Me." He is the only way. One cannot claim to be christian and think that a christian life is a smorgasborg of choosing what you want to believe from all walks of life. You believe the entire bible and it's teachings or you don't. Obama is confused and so are those following. I have yet to find a jellyfish that could walk on water.
Are you looking for a president for your country or another christ for your religion? You should not be surprised that any man does not add up to an equal against the one you worship as a god. You will find no christ like politician who can walk on water. No such candidate exists. We are discussing a man and how he relates to his own religious understanding and how he views its place in politics. If Barak began to exhibit supernatural powers would you feel relieved? Will you only elect a man to office who reminds you of your chosen savior? If your waiting for Jesus to reincarnate and run for president, expect to wait a very long time. It will never happen.
I'm a Canadian and with due respect to our countries' historic differences, I do not understand the U.S. media's focus on your potential presidential candidates' religious preferences. The American people are obviously in the process of electing the leader of (still) the most powerful nation on Earth. They are not in process of electing a saint or religiously honored person by any one's beliefs. Do the American people no longer believe in the separation of church and state? If by an large the American people no longer believe in that separation, then I am truly concerned by our geographic proximity.
The books mentioned in the article are almost assuredly those required reading for some course. So great, he read them. We are a nation founded upon religious freedom; that is what it is all about: freedom of religion and freedom of thought and movement. Obama was looking for votes as usual; I'm lloking for a President who will defend the Constitution as written by our forefathers and America to the hilt.
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I thought we were to accept the fact that Obama has a right to be a muslim in heart and a christian on the surface. Afterall it's not suppose to be important right?
Our nation is based upon freedom of religion. That is what it is all about. This man may or may not be a Christian. Books like those indicated that he had read were almost certainly a course requirement of some sort. Obama is looking to get votes. We are not electing a Pope or a head of any religious group. I want a President who will uphold the Constitution as it was written by our forefathers; a man who will defend it . hilt hilt
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Obama saying he is a christian is like Hitler saying he loved Jews. A true christian will tell everyone that Jesus Christ is the only way to get to heaven. There is no other way by which man can be saved except through faith in Jesus Christ. If Obama is President welcome to Jimmy Carter's second term. Black unemployment went to 21%, taxes were at 70% for the rich. Uncontrolled Government spending. Obama claims to be a christian but will allow a baby to be born to the neck and then aborted, doesn't sound like something Jesus would do. Just for the record, faith in Christ is the only road to heaven! If Obama's mom never took that raod she is suffering in hell!
Amen, brother !!
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