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  • Posted By: erasto @ 07/13/2008 12:25:14 PM

    In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran. He was enrolled in two Jakarta schools as a Muslim. His teacher Tine Hahiyary said that she remembered that he had studied "mengaji" (recitation of the Quran)." Classmate Rony Amiris described Obama as being a very devout Muslim, saying, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam." Another classmate, Emirsyah Satar, now the CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, "He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a 'sarong.'"

    The past 20 years we all know he's been going to Jeremiah Wright's church, that i know. However, someone need to do a story on what religion he has been practicing the past 26 years prior to him going to Jeremiah Wright's church.

    That would be a story i'd love to read.

    • Posted By: lee226 @ 07/13/2008 1:42:30 PM

      There are a lot of americans who have studied the Kuran. In fact you should do that also so you know what you are talking about.. I have studied and is much like that the bible in some facts, they believe Jesus was a prophet also. read the article in full before commenting.

    • Posted By: nopartyaffiliation123 @ 07/13/2008 12:30:03 PM

      Do you have anything better to say to smear Obama? It will not work this time, he will win by a landslide. Why so much hate towards Muslims, the ones I know are the nicest, most accomodating people you can meet.
      You must be a very unhappy person if you filled with so much hate, I feel sorry for you.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 07/13/2008 1:38:56 PM

    "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."
    -Mahatma Gandhi

    Most of the so called "Christians" who've posted their Hate against Obama & Rev. Wright, are themselves the Biggest Racist Bigots to walk on the Planet Earth and have this Audacious, Bias Judgemental, Condemning view of Obama & Wright, yet are , the most Hatefilled, Hate Mongering & Hateful People, Ever, all under the guise of "Christianity"

    Remove your Sheets and Reveal Your Identifications & Faces, You White "Christian Racist" in the name of Jesus!!


    What a Terrible Disguise !!!

  • Posted By: mcf304 @ 07/13/2008 1:32:51 PM

    "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."
    -Gandhi

    How can we as Christians condemn other religions and sects of society when Jesus dined with tax-collectors, fraternized with lepers, and loved all people???gentile or jew? I believe that Obama is trying to be a good Christian, which is something that most evangelicals have let slip away because it's so much more "fun" to sit on a high horse with a posse hypocritically telling other people how sinful they are. The bigotry must stop. Can't you see that Mohammad, Jesus, Gandhi, Siddhartha Gautama, etc all would have loved each other? We must strive to be the kind of Christian that Jesus would want us to be, which is what Gandhi is trying to say.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 07/13/2008 11:12:46 AM

    Most of Your Presidents are Deist-Masonic, Most of Your Presidents 60% share the Same Bloodline & Most Presidential Candidates are Members of the CFR, The Council on Foreign Relations.

    I believe in a Higher Power and I am Not a Christian, Muslim Nor Judaic Follower.


    Seperation of Church & State: I`ll be glad, when No Candidate Attends a Church, or Endorsed by Any Church, Mosque, Temple Or Synagouge.

    I`ll be Glad when All Candidates say, in Debates `I`m Implementing the Seperation of Church & State Rule` ...

    My Religion is the Constitution.

    My Religion, is to the (Republic) For which It Stands.

    My Religions are the Senate, Congress, The State, This Nation and Its People.

    You Hypocrites can Have Your Religion, I have Enough on My Plate, as You can See.

    John McCain has Hagee & Parsley to Denounce, and You give McCain the Pass & Accept Every Excuse, but when its Obama...You all just Pile On.

    Seperation of Chuch & State...For ALL Candidates.

    They should not Attend Church...Anywhere.

    Because the Pastor-Preacher can say Anything Controversial, at Any Time and this can Only Hurt the Politician, who may or may not have been in the Church, when the Pastor- Preacher says what he says.

    All Politicians should use this Election as a sign...Seperate, Church & State...Permamently.

    PS: Politicians & Most People don`t Attend Church Religously, Devoutly..Anyway, Just Like YOU...HYPOCRITES.

    I`d Love to See Your Church and its Members.

    -------------------------

    • Posted By: O Man @ 07/13/2008 1:31:14 PM

      This may come as a shock to you and many others, but that constitution you "worship" does not provide for any separation of church and state.
      It does allow, and protects by law, the right of anyone, including presidential candidates, to follow any religion they choose - or none at all if they so desire.
      What the Constitution does do, that most people mistakenly think of as the separation of church and state, is prohibit the government from establishing a national "official" church, as there was in England around the time our Constitution was written.
      However, there is no law, and hopefully never will be, that prevents a person's religious convictions from influencing the conducting of their secular life, whether they are president or "just an average citizen".
      And, please don't take this the wrong way, Omaar, but it would help your case if you would spell "separation" ;O)
      Regards, theoman

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 07/13/2008 1:30:29 PM

    Treaty of Tripoli

    Unlike governments of the past, the American Fathers set up a Government Divorced from Religion.

    The establishment of a (Secular Government) did not require a reflection to themselves about its origin; they knew this as an unspoken given. However, as the U.S. delved into international affairs, few foreign nations knew about the intentions of America.

    For this reason, an insight from at a little known but legal document written in the late 1700s explicitly reveals the (Secular Nature of the United States) to a foreign nation.

    Officially called the "Treaty of peace and friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli, of Barbary," most refer to it as simply the Treaty of Tripoli. In Article 11, it states:

    Joel Barlow, U.S. Consul General of Algiers

    Copyright: National Portait Gallery Smithsonian Institution/Art Resource NY
    "As the Government of the United States of America is NOT in any sense Founded on the Christian Religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."



  • Posted By: Eyes Wide Shut @ 07/13/2008 1:25:36 PM

    Trinity United Church of Christ is not a christian church. it was founded in the belief of Black Liberation Theology. A cross between Christian and Marxist Beliefs. Even the founder of BLT, James Cone, considers Trinity United and Rev. Wright to be the best examples of BLT. Where did I hear this? From Rev. Wright himself on FOX News' Hannity & Colmes. If you want to know what Obama's beliefs are, the beliefs of the church he attended for 20 years, and the beliefs of his spiritual advisor and mentor Rev. Wright, then look up Black Liberation Theology. You'll be as scared of an Obama presidency as I am.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/13/2008 1:29:57 PM

      It is much closer to The Nation of Islam, and its bow-tie bandits, than Christianity. They sell and distribute Farrakhan teachings, inside the "church".

      NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: nopartyaffiliation123 @ 07/13/2008 12:21:31 PM

    Can anyone guess what happens when you are supported by 35% of Whites, 65% of Hispanics, 80% of "other races" (Asians, Indians and other foreign born citizens..) and 92% of Blacks?
    Simple answer, you win the election by a landslide. Obama, please spend your money on helping MidWest flood victims and California fire victims, trust me, you won't need it.

    • Posted By: No Socialist in the Oval Office! @ 07/13/2008 1:29:21 PM

      Yeah, you win by a landslide because the koolaid drinkers don't know and don't care what the issues are, and that their messiah can't deliver the utopia they imagine and have been promised. Gee, make every kid learn Spanish? It might be better to teach the kids ENGLISH, the way it was meant to be spoken--not "he be down in da hood".. Obama has NO opinions or positions of his own---he is just a puppet and says what he is told. Mr. wonderful speaker....Do yourself a favor and lister to him without a written speech...uh, uh uh .".I visited all 57 states......they speak Arabic in Afghanistan......Iran is a tiny country, it poses no threat".....What a moron. And the majority that are voting for him, cant even show you Iran or Pakistan on a map. Hell, they probably can't even point out Idaho. Yeah, history will be made if BO takes up residence in the White House.....the first MULTI-Racial . Yup, that's right, BO is HALF white--the half he forgets about. May God Bless and SAVE the United States of America from this Socialist radical...

    • Posted By: PoliticalNoob @ 07/13/2008 1:19:07 PM

      Hey dude, who u think Asians will vote for? Obama? A FOOL that lies? No darn way!

    • Posted By: gatzbyone @ 07/13/2008 12:40:51 PM

      Its not a race issue, like the OJ trail wasn't a race issue either hahahahahaha, Its about a politicians belief or simply what he wants you to believe that he believes in, Once in the White house, its all out the window, Bush is a xtian man, and honest man hahahahahahaha If Obama loses to Macain it will be a race issue since that is all that is left.....IZ lost cause I be a Black man......CNN would be the losers since they push this guy so much

  • Posted By: mcf304 @ 07/13/2008 1:28:38 PM

    "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."
    -Gandhi

    How can we as Christians condemn other religions and sects of society when Jesus dined with tax-collectors, fraternized with lepers, and loved all people???gentile or jew? I believe that Obama is trying to be a good Christian, which is something that most evangelicals have let slip away because it's so much more "fun" to sit on a high horse with a posse hypocritically telling other people how sinful they are. The bigotry must stop. Can't you see that Mohammad, Jesus, Gandhi, Siddhartha Gautama, etc all would have loved each other? We must strive to be the kind of Christian that Jesus would want us to be, which is what Gandhi is trying to say.

  • Posted By: jaspah1966 @ 07/13/2008 1:28:30 PM

    We all have core truths... We all have core truths as in what we "hold dear to our hearts" I believe we should all have enough brains to seperate the desparately ill, sin filled, mans heart, as in "what I feel" from the fact that we almost 75% say we believe in Jesus Christ. Well folks.... either he is who he says he is, or he's a lunatic. I have some of the same history as Barack but I know without hesitation that I am man and Jesus Christ is God! I must follow something without hesitation (A GOD) without following man. I believe this is ultimate truth and also what has gone wrong in America. jsproul64683@roadrunner.com

  • Posted By: portateck @ 07/13/2008 1:28:18 PM

    Like I said, the media is biased and blatantly pushing for Obama. Week after week there are stories showing his virtue, work ethic, vision, etc...........what a bunch of crap. If it wasn't so dangerous and pathetic it would be funny.

  • Posted By: USA Rocks @ 07/13/2008 1:28:09 PM

    Reverand Wright is Obama's paster for 20 Years, 20 YEARS! And he doesnt have the judgement to know that this man preach's hate of the United States and the white man? Come on people, wake up! We all knew within minutes of Wrights press conference, to think that Obama doesn't share some or all of these core beliefs is ignoring history and fact. You need look no further than his past associations with the most corrupt of people. He is the prototype politician who will say whatever he needs to get power. All of his history of politics and personal life contradict what he now says.

  • Posted By: rustyb @ 07/13/2008 1:25:39 PM

    This article is a bunch of bull sh**!! A typical politian trying to cover his butt in order to gain votes since he is falling in the polls. If he waffels on his own souls future what will he do with this countries future???? I am a Democrate who has never voted for a Republican in my life and will not this year either BUT I will not vote for Obama either........guess I will just throw my vote away this time.

  • Posted By: nopartyaffiliation123 @ 07/13/2008 12:16:24 PM

    Once gas reaches $7/gallon because of our trillions of dollars spent in Iraq, once unemployment reaches 30% (real and not government cooked figures), once your house is worth 10% of what you paid for it, would all this hypocritical religious talk and bigotry be a factor then?? If it still is, then why would you vote for someone that has committed adultery and calls his wife a ***? Doesn't matter, McCaint will lose his own state.

    • Posted By: PoliticalNoob @ 07/13/2008 1:24:16 PM

      Can you do the math? IF that FOOL order troop out of Iraq right away ... how much a gallon will be in the future not only us suffering but the world would be too! What a dumb way of doing foreign policy in his folly way! What a dumb trash newbie to run for a leader of great country! ALL of his words are LIES ... changing from time to time even denounce his father figured racist priest! Further, denounce his own Church!

  • Posted By: mikkiwoo37 @ 07/13/2008 1:23:18 PM

    mohada, don't base your Christianity on PEOPLE, they will only disappoint you. Your Christianity should only be based on your relationship with Christ. Never be ashamed to be a Christian. Be ashamed of sin and sinners!!! Ever here the Words "Love the sinner...hate the sin."

  • Posted By: rss1021 @ 07/13/2008 1:17:51 PM

    I AMA AN ATHEIST AND I ALSOAM kind and understanding regarding the struggles on human kind! Separation of CHurch &State

    • Posted By: skywalker77 @ 07/13/2008 1:23:14 PM

      You come across as "kind and understanding", NOT. Have you ever heard the phrase that goes something like, "I can't hear you as you attempt to tell what you are all about because what you really are is screaming at me so loudly".

  • Posted By: thennessy @ 07/13/2008 1:23:13 PM

    Conspicuous in its absence is any discussion of Obama's stand on reparations for slavery, which is a cornerstone of black liberation theology. Why is it not one person has bothered to ask?

  • Posted By: ppcgm @ 07/13/2008 1:23:10 PM

    I'm sure her reasons were quite different ... but put me among the unrepresented, there is no political party that says I should be free to choose my neighbors, who I work with, who my kids go to school with or what I have to hear in my neighborhood ... until there is, I'll continue to vote for the lesser of the evils, and that is not Obama

  • Posted By: lee226 @ 07/13/2008 1:22:52 PM

    America is one of the most religious christian nation in the western world.
    There is a separation , yet people came here years ago to have freedom of religion, not freedom from religion and that is the way it should stay. Once our freedom are denied we will loose all of them one by one.
    So respect those who believe and those who do not....

  • Posted By: mahada @ 07/13/2008 1:14:41 PM

    Why are there such hateful, spiteful people in this forum? If you are Christian I thought you were supposed to be kind and understanding regarding the struggles of faith? I am mystified at the idea that many of you claim to follow Jesus Christ yet spout such unenlightened divisive comments towards others. I am ashamed to be a Christian when I read these words.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/13/2008 1:22:06 PM

      You may claim Christianity, as your faith, but you are immature in the faith, at best. You commented earlier..........Jesus, Mohammed, or many other true prophets......................

      Jesus is GOD incarnate. Mohammed was a pedophile. Christ and Islam are incompatible. Jesus Saves. Islam Kills. Choose Life.

      NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: PrizmWolf @ 07/13/2008 1:21:47 PM

    As a Presidential candidate, they will work as hard as possible to keep their religious views and beliefs out of the spotlight. (President Carter made himself perfectly clear on the other hand) If this cannot be done, most candidates will attempt to walk (atop the proverbial picket fence). Hence, most all the "PEOPLE" of our nation, yes, those who are a member of a particular ethnic group, especially belonging to a national group by heritage or culture too; whether their faith is in a god, God, or in themselves ,could give that candidate a fine reception, a fine one indeed!
    Obama's short autobiography of "FINDING HIS FAITH", were both interesting and vague; interesting, because he took a LEAP of FAITH in sharing the (roller coaster ride) that he has experienced up to this point. Did I say, "up to this point"? Due to the (Steven King ending) of this interesting story re his faith, it dropped from interesting to VAGUE; vague meaning, Obama and the writer did not leave us any absolutes re to WHAT PATH does Obama intend to walk on, and in what direction. Obama has been open and my wife and I admire that! Nevertheless, his roller coaster ride continues in short of being sure..."Will America still want me if I...?"

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