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  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 07/16/2008 8:18:56 AM

    OBAMA stance in Iraq is correct.THE IRAQI's must take control of their own security and U.S. troops must begin comming home by 2010. The nucleus of Al Queda is in AFGANISTAN AND PAKISTAN. IF they are defeated then there is no more AL Queda in IRAQ. Obama's assessment of refocusing the war on terror to AFGANISTAN AND PAKISTAN was most impressive.

    What shocked me was his stance on the wiretapping bill. This is a clear violation of our privacy rights as AMERICANS. Unfortunately, this is just the tip of the iceberg. In 2010 REAL ID's will become law. Eventually the government will have all our personal information on a chip. I WAS VERY VERY DISAPPOINTED IN OBAMA's vote on this issue.

    OUR CONSITITUTION IS ALL WE HAVE TO PROTECT OURSELVES AGAINST GOVERNMENTS WHO OVER REACH THEIR POWERS. WHAT MAKES OUR COUNTRY GREAT IS THE CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT ARE IN PLACE.

    THE RATIONAL behind voting in favor of this bill cannot really be justified. I guess OBAMA is trying to show he can work with Republicans and is willing to comprimise. Inotherwords he voted for this controversial bill and will be able to use his vote as leverage for a bill he really wants passed in the future.

    OBAMA has a fifty state strategy is has a good chance of winning four states which are traditionally republican strongholds, in the fall. He can make the case that he can work with Republicans and Democrats to get things done. IT is inevitable that one day these wire tap laws will be abused at the expense of our privacy. What is the big deal in getting a warrant. THIS IS WHAT PROTECT US AMERICANS AGAINST POTENTIAL GOVERNMENT INTRUSION.

    NOW THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT NEED A WARRANT THEY CAN JUST DO WHAT THEY WANT. I DO NOT THINK AMERICANS REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS USING TERRORISM AS AN EXECUSE TO INVADE OUR PRIVACY. WE ALREADY HAVE PRIVACY ISSUES WITH CREDIT CARD COMPANIES AND CORPORATIONS WHO TRADE OUR PERSONAL INFORMATION AMONGST THEMSELVES TO INCREASE THEIR PROFITS.


    THERE has not been one attack on AMERICAN SOIL SINCE 9/11. DURING THIS TIME WE DID NOT HAVE A WIRETAPPING BILL. SOMEHOW A CITIZEN GROUPS NEED TO ORGANIZE OURSELVES AND START FIGHTING TO GET OUR PRIVACY RIGHTS BACK.

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/16/2008 7:37:34 AM

    IRAQ IS DISTRACTING FROM EVERY OTHER THREAT AND OBAMA PLAYING THE RACE CARD ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER CRAP LIKE RESKO, REV WRIGHT, AYERS, MARXIST, THE COVER OF THE NEW YORKER, THE FIST BUMP, WHAT RELIGION HE IS, THE DEMOCRATS HOUSING DEALS, ALL OF THESE THINGS AND MORE ARE DISTRACTING THE VOTERS FROM THE REAL ISSUES LIKE OBAMA'S VOTING RECORD, OR HIS CHANGES ON THE ISSUES HE LIKES ALL THIS NEGITIVE PUBICITY BECAUSE IF THE VOTERS FOCUS ON THIS THEN THEY WILL NOT SEE THAT HE IS IN FACT UNABLE TO RUN THE COUNTRY !! IT???S JUST A DIFFERENT FLAVOR OF KOOL AID!

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/16/2008 6:32:53 AM

    Hey NOBAMAIN - Actually I wish they would cover McCain more too. Because I'm wondering about his Christian experience...like what Christian path he was on when he abandoned his disabled wife and 3 kids for a younger, richer beer heiress, who he also abandoned when she had a stroke to learn to walk on her own. This seems a bit confusing to me. Why would we want a man who's alway abandoning his family in time of need - to be our leader?

  • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 07/16/2008 5:01:33 AM

    One thing that strikes me,about Obama and this article highlites it, is the human experiance Obama has, and I think it is the reason for the mans depth,
    Compare that to McCain's experiance who has been on the Government payroll his entire life and his father before hin and his grandfather before that, Zero life experiance outside the government.

  • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 07/16/2008 5:01:28 AM

    One thing that strikes me,about Obama and this article highlites it, is the human experiance Obama has, and I think it is the reason for the mans depth,
    Compare that to McCain's experiance who has been on the Government payroll his entire life and his father before hin and his grandfather before that, Zero life experiance outside the government.

  • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 07/16/2008 5:01:22 AM

    One thing that strikes me,about Obama and this article highlites it, is the human experiance Obama has, and I think it is the reason for the mans depth,
    Compare that to McCain's experiance who has been on the Government payroll his entire life and his father before hin and his grandfather before that, Zero life experiance outside the government.

  • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 07/16/2008 5:01:14 AM

    One thing that strikes me,about Obama and this article highlites it, is the human experiance Obama has, and I think it is the reason for the mans depth,
    Compare that to McCain's experiance who has been on the Government payroll his entire life and his father before hin and his grandfather before that, Zero life experiance outside the government.

  • Posted By: ganeshax @ 07/16/2008 3:24:29 AM

    WWJD? I often wonder who Jesus would vote for if he only had a choice between Democrat and Republican candidates. I think he'd want the humanist to win. People are more important than money. I don't think Heaven and Hell are important. They are intangible. The only thing we have is the evidence of how we live our lives in the here and now and how we positively affect those around us. I want a president who nurtures my individual right to think, feel and believe as I am personally motivated. I want a president who can protect me from the extremist theo-facists and ...wait... IS there an opposite extreme to theo-facist? I'm not really sure. God will save all of our souls and as far as I'm concerned she's the only one that has any real use for the concept. I'll just keep slogging away trying to be the best fellow citizen and best me I can be.

  • Posted By: sbelknap @ 07/16/2008 2:02:26 AM

    I don't participate in religion of any sort and hold many religionists responsible for the extreme violence they advocate. In a presidential candidate, I'm looking for someone who is unlikely to promote firing me from my job because I don't worship with my boss or flunking my grandkids out of kindergarten because they don't pray with the majority and right now, that looks like Obama. By exposing him to tolerance, his mom may have done all of us a favor.

  • Posted By: 4obama @ 07/15/2008 11:18:22 PM

    We need More Magazine Covers with Obama on it!

  • Posted By: military wife @ 07/14/2008 4:36:53 PM

    If Bo is not a muslim, he surely isn't a Christian either. If he was truly a born again Christian, he would know that there is only ONE way to Heaven and to the Father God. He would know that Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father because Jesus has said in his word that "I AM the way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by ME". It sounds to me like he has more New Age beliefs, than Christian.

    Also he is for partial birth abortion on demand. If he was a true Christian, he would know that is just wrong! It is out and out murder of a baby that is alive and partially born. He thinks that babies are a punishment?! He doesn't want to punish his daughter with a baby?! Babies aren't punishments Mr. Obama, they may be consequences to ones' actions, but they ARE NOT PUNISHMENTS.

    • Posted By: befair @ 07/14/2008 4:56:26 PM

      He is not for partial birth abortion, He has said clearly that it should be a matter for individual states to determine whether or not they make it illegal. Those who are pro-choice do not embrace the act itself, we simply understand that God allows each individual the choice of living for him or living for themselves, those of us who choose to live for him do not have the right to then insist that others make the same choice nor do we have the right to pass laws making them live their lives as though they had made the same choice as we. You do not have the right to tell another human being what to do with their life and God is the only one who truly knows when he thinks that life begins. Those who claim to know things that only God can know need to re-think what they have been lead to believe.

      • Posted By: habush @ 07/14/2008 5:21:16 PM

        He voted against the Infants Born Alive Act, which was to ensure that babies who survived an abortion would not be left to die without medical attention. This information is easy to look up, and in his vote there was no compassion for the innocent. I cannot reconcile this lack of compassion and his claim to fear God.

        • Posted By: befair @ 07/14/2008 5:54:20 PM

          The Born Alive Infant Prtotection Act was sponsered by Rick Santorum and he is so far to the right you can't see him anymore. What Sen. Obama said about this Illinois bill is "I would have voted for the Born Alive Infant Protection Act in Illinois had it been worded the same as the Federal Bill. People like Rick Santorum have one goal in mind and that is to take away a woman's right to choose and coming up bills like this one are just stepping stones in that direction. People cleverly quote or omit quotes from Sen. Obama when it will help them make an untrue point.

          • Posted By: habush @ 07/15/2008 8:49:51 PM

            That is not my understanding of the bill. The bill was to protect any fetus born alive during any stage of development. And a vote of present is a vote of no. He was a senator and he had the authority to vote however he wanted to. But to allow a child to die which had survived an abortion attempt, no matter what stage of development, without any medical attention, pain relief,...compassion, I just simply cannot understand that. He has the right to vote the way he sees fit, I just simply cannot understand how he or anyone else for that matter...is so programmed to be partisan, left or right, conservative or democrat..that you or I cannot say as human beings that we surely need to make sure that these little one's do not suffer. In God's eyes, he doesn't care if you are Democrat or Republican, right or left, black or white, Muslim or Christian,...or for that matter two weeks conceived or ninety nine years old. He loves us all.

        • Posted By: raddave @ 07/14/2008 5:59:22 PM

          The Bill that you are talking about Obama actually voted Present on. And the Bill specifically dealt with fetuses in the first trimester that have no chance of survival.

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/14/2008 1:05:44 AM

    Hi Just another...you seem like a sweet person. Maybe you could explain how sweet it is for someone like McCain to leave his disabled wife (who waited 5 years for him while he was a POW) and his 3 kids for a much younger, richer beer heiress. Whom he started an affair with the night he met her. Maybe you don't have to worry about money either - just like McCain. Some of us regular Americans are hurting...because of the policies the McCain just like Bush need to put through. After all Haliburton, KBR, Blackwater, the big oil companies need us to stay in Iraq. And McCain will keep us there so his buddies can get even richer.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/14/2008 1:52:22 AM

      mj, sounds likethe just-another blogger got your panties in a bunch based on your (not related, emotional) response to him/her in which the subject was changed just to spew resentment of McCain instead of responding to just-anothers question. Very typical of many Obama supporters (definitely not all are like you sound like you will fall into the spew response category when you get asked a question instead of coming up with a supportive response for the guy that you support.

      • Posted By: muslimsforpresidents @ 07/14/2008 2:35:09 AM

        what has gotten into you lately sharenews. We have the utmost respect for your opinion. The six of us has seen over the last couple of weeks that you are biting, a little bit sarcastic, and starting to get full of yourself :-( Your normally not this way. Why have you started to dis other bloggers like you are now? Sounds like someone or other bloggers have gotten under your skin. Would you care to share with the six of us? You have seen the six of us post, and we have seen you post reasonably.. Why have you gone 180?

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/15/2008 7:11:45 PM

          I do not remember every blogging with you. Who are the six that you talk of? Not following you so not sure I need to explaining any of my blogs to you.

  • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 07/15/2008 6:41:50 PM

    Sorry to go off topic but, I read something on one of the PUMA sites, the crazies who are unwilling to accept that Sen. Clinton lost and are actively either campaigning for McCain or Threatening the DNC to UNelect Obama and replace him with Clinton as the Nominee.

    It seems that Clinton is sending out emails to her supporters asking them to either allow her to keep their donations and allocate them towards her 2012 Election Campaign or for them to donate directly to her 2012 Election Campaign.

    If this is true, I am still trying to verify this, I am pissed, here she is expecting Obama's supporters to pay this off and in the same breath asking her supporters to fund her next presidential campaign.

    By the way they are also calling Bill Clinton's office and asking himto, if he absolutely had to campaign for Obama, to do it really low key so that it doesn't matter.

    How dare they.

    Here is the link to puma; Link


    A copy of the letter is at comment # 905 Beca4Hillary

    I had earlier today contacted Clinton's office to inquire about making a monthly donation. She obviously has enough money. She will not get a dime from me.

  • Posted By: jds81288 @ 07/15/2008 6:06:59 PM

    INDEPENDENT PARTY WOULD BE BETTER!

  • Posted By: Paragon19 @ 07/15/2008 6:03:52 PM

    I really wish he was an atheist like his father, or at least an agnostic like his mother. Its about time we had a godless president.

  • Posted By: ApostasyUSA @ 07/15/2008 5:58:56 PM

    Anyone who claims to still be "suspicious" that Obama secretly harbors or sympathizes with the extremist views of Rev. Wright after actually listening to Obama's now famous speech was never going to vote for Obama in the first place. All the anti-Obama voters are jumping on the lynch-wagon because they see it as a way to bring Obama down, not because they honestly believe Obama to be an extremist. So let them rant and rave. The polls show their fury is barely even fraying Obama's support at the edges.

    And in a way, they have actually helped Obama (1) by reminding everyone that Obama is a Christian, not a Muslim and (2) by dispelling any notion that Obama can not stand up to the Republican attack machine. Not only did he stand up, he did it with grace, courage and brilliance.

    I will be voting for Democrats come Nov. and I would be honored to call Barack Obama my President.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/15/2008 4:14:50 PM

    Citizens in Russia and The European Union want Obama as President. In Great Britian, they really want Obama as President and can't wait for him to come to there country. They said that America is making a big mistake voting for McCain. This came from leaders of the EU. I wonder why nobody in Europe wants to work with McCain.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/15/2008 4:20:02 PM

      So does the Hamas . . they dont vote either.

      April 16, 2008
      Hamas Endorses Obama

      On Sunday, Aaron Klein and John Batchelor interviewed Ahmed Yousef, chief political adviser to the Prime Minister of Hamas, on WABC radio. The interview produced a scoop which, for some reason, has not been widely publicized: Hamas has endorsed Barack Obama for President. Yousef said, "We like Mr. Obama and we hope he will win the election." Why? "He has a vision to change America." Maybe Yousef has some insight into what Obama means by all these vague references to "change."

      Of course, Hamas's taste in American presidents is suspect. Yousef also described Jimmy Carter, who was about to pay a call on Hamas when the interview was taped, as "this noble man" who "did an excellent job as President."

      Yousef was asked about Obama's condemnation of Carter's visit with Hamas, but didn't seem troubled by it. Hamas, he says, understands American politics; this is the election season, and everyone wants to sound like a friend of Israel. Nevertheless, he hopes that the Democrats will change American policies when they take office.

      You can listen to the entire interview by clicking the "play" button below:
      http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/04/020315.php

      WHAT IS HAMAS and more: http://www.cfr.org/publication/8968

      • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/15/2008 4:23:03 PM

        What you are saying is old. If America fell for that, Hillary would be running for President right now. Why don't you get some new information. Talk about how McCain said that at one time he too did not love this country until he was deprived of her company. Remember the word, UNTIL!

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/15/2008 4:28:32 PM

          So what if its old. Old stuff can be effective, like all of those Rev. Wright videos that are going to be starting up again.

          BTW, You really should provide a link as to your source for claiming all of Europe wants Obamba for President and not McCain.

          • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/15/2008 4:35:34 PM

            I got it on MSNBC. Thats where you can find your info. They talked about the people in Moscow wish they could vote now because they would vote for Obama. The EU said they would rather work with Obama. Go to MSNBC site.

            • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/15/2008 4:45:45 PM

              Well that is more like it. Stating the source of information is always a good thing to do .

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/15/2008 4:37:38 PM

    McCain picks Carly Fiorina who when she was CEO of HP, sold computers to Iran. The same computers that they now use to scare Americans and to send information to those Al Queda members. Obama need to hit McCain hard with Carly Fiorina. She sent jobs overseas and made a big deal with Iran to make millions for herself. She and Lieberman are the biggest joke in America.

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/15/2008 4:24:27 PM

    Hey New Sharer -- nice to see you back again. I still have not received an answer.

    WHAT CHRISTIAN PATH - was McCain taking when he abandoned his disabled wife and 3 kids for a younger, richer beer heiress - only then abandon her, after she had a stroke, leaving her to learn to walk on her own.

    Now McCain is in bed with the big corporations:
    Haliburton - who moved offshore so they wouldn't have to pay taxes back to us.
    Blackwater - who is accountable to no one.
    The telecoms - who want to take your free internet away
    Big Oil - well Iraq and drilling in our pristine areas.

    He keeps trading up for the next richer thing - and leaving us all behind.

    What Christian path is that?

    I'll tell ya - if Obama was anything like that - I wouldn't like him either.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/15/2008 4:35:44 PM

      What Christian Path? I thought I provided that info.

      ABC NEWS
      September 17, 2007 11:53 AM
      Bret Hovell Reports:

      John (McCain) the Baptist

      EXCERPT: In John McCains words:

      I was raised in an Episcopal church and attended high school at a high school called Episcopal High School. I have attended North Phoenix Baptist Church for many (15) years. - John McCain

    • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/15/2008 4:33:15 PM

      Don't forget Budweiser. It is not a merger, it is a takeover. That means hard working Americans have to pray that they will still have a job. But Cindy McCain will make billions.

  • Posted By: john cain @ 07/15/2008 12:41:48 PM

    Hussein sat in his "church" for 20 years listening to hate sermons and did nothing. 20 years listening to hate speeches and not utter a single word in protest. 20 years listening to hate speeches and he didn't walk out during any one of those speeches.

    You have to wonder about the man.

    • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/15/2008 4:29:38 PM

      Blah blah blah. You keep saying the same thing. Talk about how come the President of Iran is coming to visit our President. Bush and McCain said they would never talk to the Iranian President, yet they are doing the same thing that Obama said we need to do.

    • Posted By: Jurr @ 07/15/2008 1:42:51 PM

      How many movies have you walked out on when there was a 5 second flash of nudity or an obscenity or heck even a point a view that you do not agree with? You act like that 5 second clip from Fox was the only sermon in 20 years.

      Rosa Parks was arrested, jailed, & found guilty of Disorderly Conduct because she refused to give up her bus seat for a white. Rosa Parks could have just as easily been hanged from the nearest tree and nobody would have thought twice about it, unless you were black, but then again blacks were not real people and did not matter anyways.

      That was the reality in America that Wright grew up with and the man is entitled to his outrage. I do not agree with his methods, but this is a free country and Wright, who served this country as a Marine, has an obligation to voice his objection about any injustice.

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