The Many Faces of Amanda

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  • Posted By: darkstar2007 @ 07/15/2008 10:51:15 PM

    This trial is about murder...not about the girl sleeping around, or DID YOU NOT GET THAT! Is it okay for a girl who refuses to join in with sex games and sleep around to be murdered because of it, and the murderers to get away with it? (Yes, they are all to blame as they took part in the assault.) If you think so, you are a very sick person!

  • Posted By: darkstar2007 @ 07/15/2008 10:50:50 PM

    This trial is about murder...not about the girl sleeping around, or DID YOU NOT GET THAT! Is it okay for a girl who refuses to join in with sex games and sleep around to be murdered because of it, and the murderers to get away with it? (Yes, they are all to blame as they took part in the assault.) If you think so, you are a very sick person!

  • Posted By: Diobalikal @ 07/15/2008 10:36:26 PM

    Holy Crap, it's Harry Potter in the middle picture!!!!

    • Posted By: SunnySue2k @ 07/15/2008 10:40:57 PM

      I know...I thought the same thing when I first saw the picture.

    • Posted By: Diobalikal @ 07/15/2008 10:38:20 PM

      sorry about double post

  • Posted By: djozzyo @ 07/15/2008 10:08:07 PM

    its so intelliegent of you to say something as stupid as that.First of all, it has nothing to do with the fact that she is american or if he was italian,and yes she is a woman who can pull her own panties down for a man just like you would for a woman dude or other. a human being was killed there who cares abouty race or collor at that point, my thoughts go out to the famalie and love ones. its people like you who's races vews make things in life more complicated.

    • Posted By: Horizon @ 07/15/2008 10:39:48 PM

      If you were so intelligent, you would have read all posts before writing yours. If you did, you would realize that I also think that race in this case is totally irrelevant. My post was in response to some here who think that Amanda Knox is less guilty only because she is American. I have also written: " Who is sorry for the murdered young woman ? " but of course, you haven't read it. Reading is understanding, not deciphering.

  • Posted By: Dugard the Dugong @ 07/15/2008 8:23:49 PM

    Cant we blame this tragedy on Bush, Rumsfeld and the neocons and let these young adults go free?

    • Posted By: photons @ 07/15/2008 10:39:07 PM

      If Bush and Rumsy took their place, RIGHT ON.

  • Posted By: Diobalikal @ 07/15/2008 10:35:16 PM

    is that Harry Potter in the middle picture??????????

  • Posted By: karri_34 @ 07/15/2008 10:02:53 PM

    Guilty times three. I hope they all get what's coming to them. They ain't no Angels or Saints. Only Murderers.

    • Posted By: photons @ 07/15/2008 10:35:03 PM

      Abso--guilty 3X. Who did what immaterial.

  • Posted By: Hammie @ 07/15/2008 9:29:12 PM

    Has any other reader of this article ever been to Perugia? As a professional musician who played 13 shows in Perugia 2 years ago, I spent quite a bit of time getting to know the place. For the writer who expressed her understanding that Italy is a dangerous place and should be avoided, let me tell you that Perugia is a college town; there are 3 universities there along with acting, culinary, fashion, design, music and several other academies there. Most of the populace is non-Italian (primarily American), and college-aged. It is no more dangerous than Ann Arbor, Michigan or Chapel Hill, North Carolina - but tiny in comparison to either. It is the ancient capitol of Umbria and, overlooking the town of Assisi, has been continuously occupied for 3,000 years. The town is a delightful historical hodgepodge of Etruscan, Roman, Holy Roman Imperial, Middle Age, Gothic, Rennaisance, and High Baroque. I grew up in Spain, France, Germany, and East Africa (as well as in the States - I am an American by birth and passport), and it is simply because Perugia is such a wonderland of the arts and European history that this heinous crime is so sensationalized. Yhe town itself desrves better than this, regardless of whether or not the American girl is at fault. One thing, however is certain. Her parents sent ther there to gain the opportunity of a lifetime - totally impossible for the majority of students - and the choices and companions she made there were seamy, unbecoming and sadly tawdry. I cannot defend her nor can I condemn her, yet I can say that for all of the diligent bright-eyed students I met in Perugia, there were also obvious cases of loud, stumbling and uncouth stoners and drunks (sadly, for the most part Americans). No matter where we are in the world we make our choices and become enamored of the lifestyles of the company we keep until we become part of that company. Don't be afraid of Italy (Rome is like New York with older buildings and smaller cars), and certainly don't be afraid of Perugia. But I, for one, feel sorry for this incredible and awe-inspiring little gem of a mountain town and still reccomend it to anyone travelling in Europe. Drugs and sex and irresponsible youth are available on every continent, every country, and everywhere people have a demand for them.

    • Posted By: Pts2Ponder @ 07/15/2008 10:22:46 PM

      Hammie: Thank you for saying so eloquently the things I feel in my heart. This unfortunate situtation could have happened anywhere. Do not blame a town, city, or country for the irresponsible behavior of individuals. They had choices to make and would have made the same ones no matter where they would have been on the continent. My heart goes out to the family of the slain girl. And to the families of the accused. They are victims too.

  • Posted By: Clipse @ 07/15/2008 10:21:39 PM

    Almost makes you wonder if it was a crime of jealousy. Since apparently the victims body did not appear to have been "forced" sexually, then it suggest she and Guede did have consented sex and that the murder happened AFTER the fact. With Knox's history and own account of multiple men and statements expressing that she is both beautiful and ugly at the same time, makes me wonder if she knew and was jealous of the relationship between the victim and Guede.

    But trying to derive any conclussion based on a news article that only depicts pieces of information is futile.

  • Posted By: Clipse @ 07/15/2008 10:20:22 PM

    Almost makes you wonder if it was a crime of jealousy. Since apparently the victims body did not appear to have been "forced" sexually, then it suggest she and Guede did have consented sex and that the murder happened AFTER the fact. With Knox's history and own account of multiple men and statements expressing that she is both beautiful and ugly at the same time, makes me wonder if she knew and was jealous of the relationship between the victim and Guede.

    But trying to derive any conclussion based on a news article that only depicts pieces of information is futile.

  • Posted By: Dee2008 @ 07/15/2008 7:32:14 PM

    This is what happens when families don't know how to raise their daughters. Too much freedom, allowing them to go where they want, thinking they can handle everything life throws at them at an early age, allowing them to have sex with whom they want, whenever they want. Bad behavior triggers a falling of dominoes and you don't know what you could get yourself into when you allow yourself to live such a "free" life. I blame her family. They consented to sending their daughter to a foreign country when she probably wasn't ready for that. They lesson to be learnt here is for all other families..take care of your daughters. Too much freedom can end badly. Doesn't matter where you are from..set ground rules for bringing them up when your children are still young, and don't encourage sex before marriage. Sadism..violent sex...what's next?

    • Posted By: Tammy1969 @ 07/15/2008 7:51:52 PM

      Dee why are you blaming the family? She just turned 21 years of age. She is an adult. How do you even know if she still lived at home? My question to you is did your parents know who you were having sex with when you were her age? I am a mother of a four year old daughter, I do teach her right from wrong and I was 22 yoa before I lost my virginity and that was by my choose not what my parents taught me. We can bring our children up right but what they do after they leave the nest is up to them. I feel for the British girl that was murdered and my heart goes out to her family. If Amanda Knox did murder this girl then she will
      be punished but don't place the blame on the family. I am tired of hearing the family upbringing always being brought up. I have two sisters that did not finish high school but I have a college education and I
      am a financial manager for a busy doctors office. We were all brought up with the same values, so tell me
      what happened.
      why I have a degree and my sisters don't.

      • Posted By: Dee2008 @ 07/15/2008 10:19:28 PM

        All these kids' problems have roots..you know where those comefrom..parents/home. You sound like parents have nothing to do with how their children behave once thet leave home. So wrong..what's disappointing is that there are many that think like you. Everything we do has roots..if your parents taight you one thing was ok..you will probable go on thinking it is until maybe someone may come and change your mind. I am against parents encouraging their kids to have a sex life, acting like that is all fine..when in so many ways that has gone wrong. It's like gambling..some stay ok and move on, some get pregnant as teenagers, some get STDs, AIDS and the list goes on. This is not about education in school..we atr talking about girls being raised up thinking it is ok for her to have her sex life - but just don't tell us parents about it, ok??!!! Virginity to me a sacred thing- I kept it until I got married- because marriage is a sacred thing. It was safer and felt right. That's all I can say about that- trying to convince you a feeling you could never experience is just a waist of our time. Bottomline- parents hold some responsibilty- the girl didn't grow out of wall- somewhere along her upbringing things passed her parents by and they ignored the signs- thinking Oh what if she rebells, what if she turns against us, or maybe they were too blind to see what path their daughter was entering.If you know your child well enough, you can tell-even if they are not living with you. Look at the results instead of just going against my OPINION.

    • Posted By: student/teacher @ 07/15/2008 8:13:48 PM

      HA!!! As a young woman around the age of these girls, man are you off! Treat your kids with respect and allow them to learn from their mistakes, and they will do everything they can to live up to the trust you have shown in them. It's the parents that treat their kids like two year olds who end up with daughters who go nuts abroad. Be honest with your kids about sex and don't make it in to something forbidden and sinful, that just makes it sound fun and rebellious.

      My parents trusted me to make mature decisions about sex, and look what happend. My ONLY partner is my Husband who I've been with since we wer juniors in highschool and who was proud to have a girlfriend with enough guts to state plainly that her future was too important to her to even consider having sex while still in highschool.

      My parents trusted me to spend six weeks traveling in spain with a class after my sophmore year in HIGHSCHOOL. The kids who's parents had coddled them all their lives were out binge drinking every night whereas I, who had been exposed to alcohol and taught how to imbibe it responsibly, actually managed to conduct myself gracefully and without horrifying my host family.

      • Posted By: Dee2008 @ 07/15/2008 10:07:27 PM

        Well if I only had a smiley sticker I would have stuck it on your forehead. I am guessing the only reason you didn't have multiple partners is because you were lucky enough to have a decent man from the start, but there is no guarentee for all the girls out there and is better to be safe than sorry. Too much freedom can destroy your child. Encouraging sex is a sin to many, whether you like it or not, accept it or not. Being a good parent is not holding a rope to your child's throat, but at the same time it is not healthy to believe that they raise themselves on their own and just let life teach them everything-wrong- the first teachers in their lives are their parents. Yes , give them trust and let them know that it is not them you don't trust- but the world outside- give them the teachings that wil guide them to survive, to respect themselves and others- put faith in them that they will apply what you taught them. Fearing God is not shamefull..no body should be embarrased of that cause they might think it is not cool like the "girls which you are around". Parenting is about balance -not letting go too much. I don't think Knox was brought up in a healthy home or good parents at all. Maybe they are just confused on what is good and what is not. If they ever do get it..a lesson hard learnt.

  • Posted By: dtbham @ 07/15/2008 9:03:23 PM

    I think that knox is very disturbed along with other wealthy young people in this country. They all think their life is some episode of the OC and they think they can use their sexuality to get away with anything. Just listen to some of the comments made by Knox. I hope they use her as an example and throw the book at her because Americans traveling abroad need to realize that they need to open their eyes to reality and quit acting as if everything revolved around them like some sick tv show.

    • Posted By: trustno_1 @ 07/15/2008 10:17:32 PM

      You're right....let's just exclude the itilian and the ivory coast national. Because ONLY americans are capable of murder.

  • Posted By: Horizon @ 07/15/2008 8:47:20 PM

    I have never read such stupid comments as these. So, if Mafia is in Italy, the all-American, all-perfect Amanda Knox is innocent ? What is this rubbish ? I have lived in four countries, travelled to seventeen others and I can tell you that in each of these countries, there are good and bad people. If Italy has Mafia, Americans are the world's number one weapons seller. So, I don't think you are the nice guys and Italians are the bad ones. This young woman, Amanda Knox, has told the police several different versions of what happened. It is obvious that she has an over dimensional ego and in my opinion, she doesn't give a damn about the young woman murdered. As long as she is getting worldwide attention, she is enjoying it. She is the pityful product of a Nation which created a " reality show " society in which one is an accomplished person only when famous. In her disturbed mind, she is having HER moment now. But this is no reality show, this is true life. And who is sorry for this young woman who lost her life ? The fact that she was British isn't enough ? Should she be American to be respected ?

    • Posted By: qahill @ 07/15/2008 9:20:20 PM

      Well said, I am an American, and I think it is ridiculous that Americans get special treatment, especially a harlot like Knox. I also might add that English get better treatment than other groups, like Italians, as witnessed by the comments posted here. The point is, there is a pecking order based on how wealthy your country is and how many bombs they can drop on other countries. The English are not as bad as the Americans but are of the same stock; you taught us how to put everybody in nice racial categories back in colonial times.

      • Posted By: Horizon @ 07/15/2008 10:12:20 PM

        Wow, so you haven't made any progress by your own since colonial times ???? Amazing !

    • Posted By: Anna2007 @ 07/15/2008 9:12:34 PM

      Horizon: My comment beforehand was that if one mixed up student from any country is reading this blog and they pay attention to what other Europeans have said in my presence, it could keep just ONE young person from getting into a mess such as Amanda Knox. You were putting words into my mouth. I never said Amanda Knox is innocent. You said that. As I understand it, this is an OPEN blog and we can comment about anything we want to make comments about. What is done is done; Meredith Ketcher is a tragic victim, and it is inexcusable. We were not there. These comments are like watching someone throw darts into a darkened room. My comments are about: what is done is done; let's hopefully protect future students from Great Britain, from Italy, from Germany, from North and South America. I think that out of a bad situation we should all try to create some good in our own ways.

      • Posted By: Horizon @ 07/15/2008 9:51:26 PM

        So, your point is " protecting " students from all over the world from awful Italians ? And all of that because four or five European students told you so ? Please, be serious ! Or have you forgot what happened to students in Virginia Tech massacre ? Should weapons be more difficult to get in United States, maybe this guy wouldn't have had a gun so easily and some of those students would be alive now.
        It seems evident in your posts - and in some others here - that Amanda Knox is the less to blame...only because she is American. If there weren't American killers, you wouldn't have " shows " like " America's most wanted ", right ? The fact that Italians are Latin lovers is irrelevant since none of them put a gun in Amanda Knox's head to have sex. She seemed to have no trouble putting her panties down all by herself.
        Perugia was a quiet town some years ago. But as more and more foreign students came to its university, it became a high market for drugs. And please, don't tell me that American young people don't smoke pot because I lived in U.S. long ago and even in a small little town in the country, young people didn't have trouble to buy drugs.
        And finally, it IS an open blog and freedom of speech is for everybody...not only for Americans.

  • Posted By: Anglo @ 07/15/2008 10:10:54 PM

    The Knox girl has already been proved to be a liar and a slut, seven guys in 3 months ( by her own pen ). I have no doubt that her DNA would be found in the house and that would seem natural as they were co-habitants, but why would it be on the murder weapon?? add this to her self posted Facebook and internet profiles depicting herself as some sort of princess of darkness then I would say she really is in deep water and it is no use coming the innocent now the *** has hit the fan. I am not saying that she intended to kill Kercher, who knows her mens rea ? To me this stinks of some "dark side" sex game that has gone wrong and now those concerned are pointing the finger at anyone apart from themselves, there is enough circumstancial evidence here to suggest this and it is backed up with Knox's DNA on the murder weapon. I dont think it will take the jury too long on this one...

    qahill.
    I dont believe your statement that we English as a nation get better treatment than the other nationalities that you stated. What evidence do you base this statement on ?

  • Posted By: smartone @ 07/15/2008 9:15:41 PM

    Well, I have not read the Amanda Knox's diary. I have no intentions of reading it. Because Amanda is a very sexual person, does not mean she's a murderer. Common sense tells me that Amanda Knox is not guilty. There is no concrete evidence. She lives at the villa therefore her DNA will be all over. I honestly don't see a motive. If this girl been with so many guys, why would she kill because of one (R. S.) I don't buy it! What' s so great about Rafael that Amanda would be so jealous to kill. Give me a break! Guede probably ran off cause he knew he would be blamed since there is evidence that he had sex with the girl. If he routinely had sex with her, why would he kill her with all that evidence? Can someone be that dumb who is in college? I don't know, but the justicet system is a lot different in Italy. I hope that there's such a concept as reasonable doubt or probable cause over there. If not, THEIR GOOSE IS COOKED!

    • Posted By: dtbham @ 07/15/2008 9:28:13 PM

      It's not that she was just sexual and enjoyed it and somehow ended up in jail for it. It is that fact that she went nuts when she didn't get her way

      • Posted By: trustno_1 @ 07/15/2008 10:10:07 PM

        You read one article and have the case all figured out?! I'm sure it's just the tip of the iceberg.

      • Posted By: trustno_1 @ 07/15/2008 10:06:29 PM

        You read one article and have the case all figured out?!

  • Posted By: blackbirdjockey @ 07/15/2008 9:38:20 PM

    comment: deviant behavior can lead to all sorts of results. I dont know whos guilty or who isnt. But! I know deviant behavior when I read about it. Knox's back and forth writings indicate a sociological misfit. It has nothing to do with intelligence or what class or color you are. As for Guede fleeing the country, if italy is only half as racially prejudice as the good ol USA who the hell blames him?

    • Posted By: dtbham @ 07/15/2008 10:04:03 PM

      Hah! ....Half as prejudice as the US. Maybe you have never traveled to Europe....By far the most racism I have ever seen anywhere.

  • Posted By: *Straighttalker* @ 07/15/2008 5:31:20 PM

    This is insane, and it's a case of "let's screw over the American," from Italians. It is VERY unlikely that a young girl living in a new place would murder someone like that. A news program not long ago said that there was new evidence that a random black guy had been seen with the victim the day before the crime, and his DNA was at the crime scene. Most crimes of this nature are commited by black guys. *DUH* Amanda Knox is innocent.

    • Posted By: leighc @ 07/15/2008 5:36:13 PM

      Straighttalker, that is not true. Other races are to blame for "crimes of this nature" too. Let's not judge anyone until the jury has made a judgment. Innocent until proven guilty.........................

      • Posted By: Enio Marini Connecticut @ 07/15/2008 6:10:01 PM

        Let's not jump off the case here your comment of iitalians looking to set up an American is bull crap I visit Italy several times a year and Italian gov't loves americans because they spend money and let's not forget the U.S still has navy bases in Sardenia and gives italy money every year for those bases so maybe she is innocent maybe she's not time will tell but this should be a lesson to all woman in general this is what happens when you go around playing the field sucking and screwing everyone her M.O is burying her just read her diary Amanda Knox is no angel now she will face the consequences if she is guilty. I know all woman believe in being liberal but I am from the old Italian school woman should get married have kids support the family and be faithful to their man and cook and clean that's what their purpose is not go around and live this whore lifestyle society needs to go back to 100 years ago the man is the boss and that's it if she followed that old lifestyle she would not be in the trouble she is in.

        • Posted By: jewelz4208 @ 07/15/2008 10:03:44 PM

          Nah- she'd probably just be being beaten or molested by one of her male relatives if she were underage & still living with her family. If she were married, then she had a good chance of catching a Sexually Transmitted Disease from her husband, who as a man, has the God-given RIGHT to be out there "sucking and screwing everyone" as you so eloquently put it...You're a real piece of work; maybe you should join the 90's.

      • Posted By: ejohnsonmtg @ 07/15/2008 5:59:52 PM

        They want to have sex with black men and we all know why and if black men don't wake up and leave those white girls alone they're going to keep getting screwed. You can white people for friends but let's not forget that as soon as something happens they will forget they even know you. They white person could have committed the crime but the black person is going to take the fall.

      • Posted By: ejohnsonmtg @ 07/15/2008 5:56:45 PM

        No, that would be white people, go check your statistics. The problem here is that everyone seems to be in denial that they are all guilty. Guede at least told his part of the murder. The little spoiled white kids keep lying. One day I hope that blacks realize that the justice system is not going to be in our favor and to stay away from white girls because as soon as something happens, the black man will be blamed. Eveni

    • Posted By: sbobgal @ 07/15/2008 6:00:07 PM

      You have obviously not followed this case one iota. The black guy (drifter) is the one in custody. He was the local weed dude. It has been proven that he raped/had sex with the victim. He fled the next day to Germany and was caught. Are you being facetious or did you just happen upon this story today? There is a lot more going on here than you even know. Try reading up on crime lab or MSNBC Dateline for case histories once in a while if you want to be an intern detective.

      • Posted By: *Straighttalker* @ 07/15/2008 6:12:47 PM

        Ummm...so you then you must be agreeing with me then? I said random guy. I was talking about the guy that was the drifter.

  • Posted By: karri_34 @ 07/15/2008 10:00:59 PM

    Guilty times 3. I hope they all rot in HELL.!

  • Posted By: OBAMA4EVER @ 07/15/2008 9:59:22 PM

    CSI: Italy. To quote Peter Griffin, "We could write it, Brian. We could write it."

  • Posted By: alistarz @ 07/15/2008 9:50:56 PM

    Wow, there are some very racist comments on here. Everyone going abroad needs to realize that in every country there are bad people and good people and the good people far outweigh the bad ones. I studied abroad for a year in Germany and had an amazing time. When you go abroad you have to use your common sense and observe the locals. You have to realize that during your stay you are living under a set of laws that may be extremely different than those in your home country and you have to follow them. You have to realize that other countries have different processes of arresting and convicting people. You have to realize that people from another country may expect different things from investigotors and expect different levels or kinds of evidence to be convicted. This is all stuff that Ms. Knox is unfortunately learning and that poor Ms. Kercher paid the ultimate price for.

    Something parents need to relize is that when they send their kids abroad they often times act differently that they do at home. There is little to no pressure for them to act 'normal.' For people who are often still trying to figure out who they are, studying abroad is a great time to reinvent themselves. We all must remember that Ms. Knox is a full grown woman and there for fully responsible for her actions.

    Students think twice before you go abroad. Make a deal with yourself. Before you leave on your lifechanging adventure write a list of thins that you will promise to do or not do while you are there. Such as walking home alone late at night (especially for women). Not drinking to excess. Not doing drugs ect...

    Hopefully Ms. Knox and Ms. Kercher's tragic stories will serve as a warning to other students wishing to study abroad.

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