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  • Posted By: nomorearabsubsidy @ 07/16/2008 7:22:15 PM

    It is always the same mantra with the bushies--they are losers and don't know it--they continue to bitterly cling to the past and their old ways. Oil is not the future, oil is dependence on foreigners and large cartels. Innovation in alternative energy is the way of the future.

  • Posted By: MacDaddy64 @ 07/16/2008 7:17:42 PM

    States should be able to decide if they want drilling, coal and LP electrical power plants, Nuke plants, and refineries. We should start respecting the people that feel so compassionate for the environment. Their is just one thing, if States and Local Gov'ts are given this right, then they should not be able to rely on States that elect to allow drilling, coal and LP plants, Nuke plants and refineries to produce gasoline, electrical, and LP energy for them.

  • Posted By: mesafitz @ 07/16/2008 7:15:44 PM

    Santa Barbara should add oil riggs and get rid of the filthy homeless people that have destroyed the city. I won't ever go back, the homeless people have ruined the beach.

  • Posted By: riverplace @ 07/16/2008 7:03:42 PM

    the only thing more pitiful than seeing a sea lion in oil is fulling up your car with gas so you go to work and make a living.Maybe we could feed our kids sea lion.Or maybe we could buy a little sailboat instead and not feed our kids.Quit crying the sky is falling!

  • Posted By: gaston 2005 502 @ 07/16/2008 7:02:59 PM

    drilling offshore of Santa Barbara is and has been ongoing in state waters,less than 12 miles out. not in federal waters more than 12 miles out. i have been on and worked on 2 of the 4 rigs that i know of, someday tree huggers will realize that we need to reduce opec dependence, and that drilling is and has been ongoing. also all new ships being built and have been being built for years of double hull design.

  • Posted By: joe2008 @ 07/16/2008 6:10:57 PM

    TECHNOLOGY? You think TECHNOLOGY is going to come to the rescue. TECHNOLOGY created the nuclear weapon. TECHNOLOGY created the oil tanker in the first place. Now when we have an oil spill, it will probably involve a SUPERTANKER

    • Posted By: Mr. G @ 07/16/2008 6:35:40 PM

      A hammer (an example of the first technology ever) can be used to drive nails or crack skulls. The hammer is not bad. How someone uses it can be bad. Technology isn't bad. How someone uses it can be bad. It wasn't too long ago when people died from infection from a small cut. Yes, technology can come to the rescue just as fast as it can destroy us. That's why mental health is just as important as the tool.

      • Posted By: joe2008 @ 07/16/2008 6:50:52 PM

        Most of our environmental problems are caused by the fact that humans live too long. Sometimes good people create oil spills. Good people are responsible for nuclear meltdowns. Only good people fight wars. We know this because God is on their side. Good people make mistakes. Good people do bad things. The problem is that, we have too many good people with too much advanced technology which makes their mistakes more deadly.

  • Posted By: joe2008 @ 07/16/2008 6:33:04 PM

    If we just went ahead and nuked all the arab oilfields, we would be forced, kicking and screaming, into the 'green' age. Without oil, there would be no oil companies. No oil speculators. We'd beforced to resort to alternative energy. What's a little radiation compared to the pollution we spew out everyday.

  • Posted By: Kalifornia @ 07/16/2008 6:18:14 PM

    Like we need more proof of the evironMENTALists being harbingers of doom, stuck in a vacuum for the past 40 years!!! I'm from Kalifornia, and unlike smarka and the interviewee of the article, I'm not obtuse to the realities of our energy dependence!

    "We need a presidential candidate to make a commitment to things like batteries, for example, so we can plug in our hybrids. We love saving energy here."

    WHERE does the electricity for those batteries come from, you IDIOT!?!? How does that SAVE energy? Let's return to physics and remember that energy cannot be created or destroyed, just CONVERTED. That Prius may not burn gas, but I'm willing to bet that gas (or coal) was burned to create that electricity.

    People that think this is a Bush/Cheney/Republican mess are so distorted by their political bias that they're unwilling to see the same problem from their own ranks (ie - the methanol "solution" so lauded by the liberals that has done nothing but drive up food costs and spend more tax dollars funding and subsidizing an energy glutton).

    Santa Barabara is full of environmentalists. Ones that still use styrofoam, plastic bags, rubber, cotton, among hundreds/thousands of other things that damage the environment somewhere down the line. (oops! cotton? YEAH. COTTON! Subsidized to grow in the DESERT, this water HOG takes water from the Delta [what about the LOVE for the smelt or Salmon??] to send to the imperial Valley where cotton grows, turning the place into a wasteland). Need I go on with more examples?

    EnvironMENTALlists like these people are just monumentally ignorant consumers of the earth's resources that assuage their guilt by attacking other people's resource consumption..... "By god, NOT IN MY BACKYARD!" Hypocrites!

    • Posted By: smarka @ 07/16/2008 6:29:36 PM

      More personal attacks...what a surprise.

      Who's the bigger idiot, the one who thinks that we can do better than we're doing now, or the one who can't see that alternative energy sources can also power the wall socket?

      I agree that corn-based ethanol isn't a good answer, and I think nuclear power is a good one, as long as we dispose of the waste appropriately.

      By the way, I care about my resource consumption. I use my bike, I use reusable cloth grocery bags, I keep my speed down and I recycle. I do what I can. Santa Barbara is full of people like me. I know, I live there. ...and no, I'm not rich. I rent my three bedroom home and struggle like most of the people here. There are a lot of rich people in the hills around here, but most of us aren't.

  • Posted By: smarka @ 07/16/2008 6:18:14 PM

    If it weren't so tragic it would be funny how often the people on the "more oil" side of this discussion resort to personal attacks. Just like every other important issue these days. Thanks, Karl Rove.

  • Posted By: Calif.raised @ 07/16/2008 6:16:36 PM

    The real Scam is the hipocritical environmental movement, and the naysayers. Drill now drill 20 years from now keep drilling. Build 1,000 nuke plants. Where is greenpeace marching against the French government and their disposal problem.

  • Posted By: Mr. G @ 07/16/2008 6:15:12 PM

    kperes - Prius's don't plug into the wall. They recharge their batteries using braking power.
    Supply and Demand have nothing to do with current gas prices. It's what the market will bear. Also sounds like the death cry of an industry circling the drain. There are non-cobustion engines that operate on frozen nitrogen and air and combustion engines that operate on hydrogen, which is very clean. The develpment
    of these technologies has been stepped on by big oil. The issue isn't just getting the oil, it's what it leaves behind. We don't need more oil rigs. We need to better develop the alternatives that already exist.

  • Posted By: foolkiller @ 07/16/2008 5:48:03 PM

    People in California feared the 20th century. Now they fear the 21st century. They have all been rattle brained since they found out that the TV show X-FILES was NOT a documentary.

    • Posted By: smarka @ 07/16/2008 5:51:49 PM

      Wow, now there's an intellectual commentary.

      California has always lead the way to social and economic change. That's why we're the 7th ranking economic power in the world.

      • Posted By: Curata et Industria @ 07/16/2008 6:04:40 PM

        I left California because of the "social change" . The liberals ruined the safety of the family in so many ways it is not possible to discuss it here.

        Economic change? You over inflated houses (which I took advantage of) and then need the Government to bail out your poor investment - typical democrat.......

        • Posted By: smarka @ 07/16/2008 6:12:18 PM

          I'm an independent.

          Why'd you take advantage of the inflated houses? To make some quick cash at other people's expense? Typical Republican.

          My family's safe, I don't know what the heck you're talking about.

  • Posted By: joe2008 @ 07/16/2008 6:08:15 PM

    The issue of off-shore drilling is a scam. All/most of the oil will be for export. It will do NOTHING to alleviate problems in the U.S.

    If the government cared about its' citizens, it would designate ALL oil drilled in the U.S. or its' territories for domestic use.

  • Posted By: zuiderweg1 @ 07/16/2008 6:05:18 PM

    We have to do something,we can no longer set on our hands & not tap our resources we have. California belongs to all Californians not just those living in Santa Barbara, technology has come a long way in forty years. Lets get on with it!!

  • Posted By: FIREMAN @ 07/16/2008 5:59:15 PM

    I am a native of the region and 65 years old. My Dad is 86 and he will say the samething. There has always been an oil slick off the coast of Santa Barbara. I can never remember going to the beaches in Ventura and Santa Barbara counties and not getting oil and tar on me. The simple fact is once the drilling started the oil seepage was less than before the drilling started. To bad people do not look at the history of the area before they go into histerics

  • Posted By: CARNUT @ 07/16/2008 5:55:39 PM

    How about we dump all of the batteries from all of the Hybrids in Santa Barbara. Just give your address and everyone will ship them to you...

  • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 07/16/2008 5:25:57 PM

    You should look at Nigeria.. oil companies have ruined that country with all their drilling at sea and on land.. their rivers, coasts and land are all full of oil spills. It is an environmental disaster not talked about in the american medias. It looks like it is ok to pollute and destroy poor countries's environment but not ok in the usa. People should be outraged by this!

    • Posted By: don52 @ 07/16/2008 5:46:32 PM

      Nigeria is a 3rd world country .The Government over there is busy in stealing and exploiting the country and the people there.
      This is NOT a good example .
      Check the rest of the world .

      • Posted By: smarka @ 07/16/2008 5:48:47 PM

        Our government is also busy stealing and exploiting our country. Check the Bush administration record.

  • Posted By: rascilon @ 07/16/2008 5:25:39 PM

    I think the question of offshore drilling should be left up to the individual states whose coastlines would be environmentally impacted. I no more support drilling off the California coast to supply gasoline in Iowa than I would support clear-cutting forests in Montana to build strip malls in Massachusetts. On a related note, suggesting all Californian's live opulent, privileged lifestyles is simply ignorant.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 07/16/2008 5:43:58 PM

      So which of our states that have shoreline should be responsible for supporting our oil habit? Which ones don't rely on the beauty of their coastline to support their tourism industry or housing industry? Does Florida owe us more than California or vice versa....is Texas coastline more expendable? Who gets to decide the governor, the state legislature or the voters?. If one state produces oil but another refuses to sacrifice their shoreline is the first stae obligated to share its resources...why? They sacrificed? What about sates that don't have as great a supply of oil as the next. Sounds easy but it''s not.

  • Posted By: Calif.raised @ 07/16/2008 5:41:45 PM

    not every acre of a lease is used to drill out. the petroluem is in pockets all around those thousands of acres. The Feds lease out the acreage, they direct the size.

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