Posted By: woles @ 08/13/2008 11:18:30 PM
Comment: when did barry obama become barak obama and why?
A Perception Problem
What will keep The New Yorker's image from sticking?
Jul 18, 2008 | Updated: 1:27 p.m. ET Jul 18, 2008
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Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 07/23/2008 2:54:59 PM
Comment: I think the cartoon took into consideration the strongest Obama supporters from the Global standpoint! And dressed Obama and his wife accordingly!
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/21/2008 11:27:11 PM
Comment: ATTN......... ALL OBAMAMOHAMMEDS....BREAKING NEWS...HUSSEIN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FAKE...............
Laugh it off. Ignore it. Whatever you like. THIS WILL get MSM coverage. For the entire story go to.......
....................... http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/forensics-expert-obama-birth-certificate-is-a-forgery
Larry Johnson and others are going to FORCE an inquiry. Here is a snippet........
The following report was written for TD/NQ by Techdude, who hurried to complete it after his tires were slashed and a mutilated rabbit was found hanging by his front door. He is currently working on another exclusive follow-on report.
Who threatened Techdude, and why? And if his findings are correct, why did Barack Obama publish a fake Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) on his own website, FightTheSmears, and on DailyKos?
Well, well, well....what's up with this??? We will all find out soon. Check out the entire investigation.
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Posted By: BrianFH01 @ 07/21/2008 12:30:11 AM
Comment: Newsflash! Obama condemns those who claim he's Muslim forever because of his birth, and issues death-fatwah against them!
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Posted By: BrianFH01 @ 07/21/2008 12:22:12 AM
Comment: The real irony is that the inside article rips Oblabla's Chicago roots and tactics. And that the cartoon may have been truer than it was intended to be.
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Posted By: Jack99 @ 07/20/2008 1:07:21 PM
Comment: Obama is slipping in the polls because he opposes offshore drilling, and because he was completely wrong about the surge. McCain was right about the surge, and he is also right about offshore drilling. The cartoons are just a distraction from the real issues. And on the real issues, Obama is either too left wing (refusal to drill), or an opportunistic flip-flopper (Iraq, FISA).
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Posted By: the-commish @ 07/21/2008 1:22:18 AM
Comment: Obama was not wrong about the surge. While it has decreased violence in Iraq, Violence and casualties have increased in Afghanistan, where the REAL enemy is. The surge can not be taken in a vacuum.
Iraq has taken our eyes off the real enemy (al Queda in Iraq was never more than a few bit players). Now al Queda and the Taliban have gotten stronger In Afghanistan and Pakistan because Bush was too dumb to realize how much his Iraq policy actually hurt the real war on terror. -
Posted By: yupik1 @ 07/20/2008 8:06:48 PM
Comment: Lost in the Repugs Kool-aid....The oil companies need to develop the leases they already have! This is about the rich grabbing more when they don't need it. This won't reduce gas prices. Our refineries are already at maximum capacity. McCain is a corporate oil puppet just like Bush is.
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Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/20/2008 10:38:41 AM
Comment: Are Americans more comfortable with conventional politicians who look like Nazis or will they take a calculated bet and vote for the person with the most intelligence?
I like to think the latter; we'll see in November. We get the president we most deserve. I only hope we pick the best man (Obama) and not the most mediocre (McSame). -
Posted By: Texan99 @ 07/20/2008 9:11:40 AM
Comment: It's the combination of the willingness to say anything to cultivate a useful image, along with the sneaking suspicion that his core beliefs (if any) are frivolous or downright unsavory, that may do Obama's campaign in.
As for the usual "racist" accusation that's thrown around (including in the comments below), i'd be strongly disinclined to vote for any candidate who was unduly preoccupied with racial identities. That goes for Obama as much as for David Duke. Similarly, I'm as radical a feminist as you're ever likely to meet, but I wouldn't vote for a candidate who blamed most public ills on the victimization of women. What I want from a political leader is policies that work, not ones that provide excuses for failure.-
Posted By: Perusing-through @ 07/20/2008 5:56:50 PM
Comment: To Texan99 ??? I see you have employed the typical "GOP Misdirection Strategy". The strategy is not to face the truth head-on. Just throw a curve to misdirect the subject. Now let us break it down on how you did.
(1.) My target was the media and all its talking heads. Not the voters and not the candidates.
(2.) My issue was the numerous code words used by media talking heads and political hacks to mask underlying racial biases of voters. Such words as "Appalachians find Obama a bit too EXOTIC", (paraphrasing Newsweek author Ms. Clift). Or . . . "Obama has to dialogue and close the 'cultural gap' "! Why??
(3.) Now reread my comments and notice that NO WHERE IN THE ENTIRE COMMENT DO I EVEN INSINUATE OBAMA COMPLAINING OF RACIAL BIASES. IN FACT OBAMA DOES NOT DO IT TO A FAULT.
(4.) But your response is about your personal values being too high to vote for a person claiming to be victim of racism or sexism. I never said Obama played the race card. This was 'clearly' not the point or the target of my comment. My target is the sugar-coating political hacks and media types. Your response was 100% off the mark, probably a GOP Misdirection Strategy.
Finally, racism is about as prevalent as lying, stealing, cheating, hatred and a thousand other sins. We as a nation face these sins and vices head-on through a multitude of channels and find successes while doing so. (P.S. - - Racism is one sin I notice the hypocritical Religious Right dread to go when in their pulpits). BUT FOR REASONS PUZZLING TO ME, WE AS A NATION REFUSE TO FACE AMERICA'S 350-YEAR OLD RACISM ISSUES HEAD-ON; EVEN WHEN IT'S THE 800-LB GORILLA IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MOST HISTORIC CAMPAIGN IN U.S. HISTORY. -
Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/20/2008 10:35:44 AM
Comment: So are you voting for McSame to get the "policies that work" we got with Bush? God, that's really scary.
I think Obama is a savvy politician, and he is moving toward the center to allay fears that he is "too liberal" so more people will vote for him. That's his business, that is what politicians try to do - get elected.
Nobody has turned his coat on the issues more often than McCain in the past 10 years. You cannot possibly uphold that idiot as the panacea for all ills who will be our shining example of a good leader?
The Navy would not promote him beyond Captain, which is pretty darn lowly, and he nearly flunked out of this last year at the Naval Academy. He used to be a bit of a playboy and he married a trophy wife who looks like Stepford Wife Robots, and divorced his first wife to do so. Cindy McSame is a former drug addict and has the IQ of a teenager, and if McSame picks Romney as his VEEP that will be another robot will do anything, say anything, project anything to get elected.
So what else is new in US Politics? Same old, same old...
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Posted By: gommy goomy @ 07/20/2008 8:27:56 AM
Comment: What image is that, Eleanor? The image of a magazine run by a bunch of snooty self hating Jews who go to the theatre so they can hook up with the boys in wardrobe? Yeah. I think it'll survive.
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Posted By: tippology1 @ 07/20/2008 8:22:22 AM
Comment: I think Obama will be whatever faith you want him to be to become president. The guy clearly doesn't want anything to do with Muslims after being born into the religion. He quits the church in order to look good, but he preaches to church going people everday that he promotes change and will be a different president. This guy is full of it and if the American people elect this guy into the White House we will be the biggest idiots for electing a person with no experience, no character, and no since of pride to be who or what he wants to be. I feel that a man is only as good as he has shown and this guy has change his mind over and over, things you cant do if you are president. You have to commit to a project and see it through....that is leadership and that is what McCain will do .
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Posted By: Perusing-through @ 07/20/2008 8:22:21 AM
Comment: .
"EXOTIC, UNKNOWN, DIFFERENT" - - IN THIS CAMPAIGN; ALL CODE WORDS TO MASK RACIAL BIASES.
Quote from Eleanor Clift's article:
"The reason Obama is ahead by only a handful of points in a political environment poisonous for Republicans is because of lingering concern over his "exotic" (that's the code word) name and background."
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You nailed it Ms. Clift. But at the end of the day whether its "exotic", "unknown', or "a different politician", they are still code words to mask racism. The word "racist" may sound too hard but you guys in the media have got to stop sugar-coating and masking the obvious sins of the people.
Based on exit polls taken in West Virginia and Kentucky primaries, at least 40% of Hillary???s votes came from Whites that will never under any condition vote a Black man to be their Commander-in-Chief. 20% openly acknowledge that fact to a clipboard carrying exit pollsters - - - aka, a strangers. Logical deduction concludes at least another 20% chose to do the same but hide their sins. And amazingly 10%-to-40% of the Hillary votes in all the contest since Texas/Ohio primaries said they will switch back to McCain in the general elections.
It is a bit disingenuous for politicians, talking heads, and party hacks to claim in a year the Republican Party is "Dead Man Walking", but somehow only trail the smartest, wisest, most authentic Christian presidential nominee since Abraham Lincoln, to claim it is just a "cultural gap" for Senator Obama to close with dialog. All the dialog in the world is not going to close the cultural gap between the 40% racist-White voters of Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Appalachian region and Almighty GOD'S hand picked leader to save America. You want proof, look no further then the die-hard confederate's inability to acknowledge the simple facts: (1.) the south lost, (2.) it was always about slavery, (3.) Lincoln was right to unite the nation, (4.) and they killed they're own brothers to the north in defiance of GOD'S WILL to bring freedom to a people of this land.
I am not one to throw racist accusations around so frivolously. But the way I see it the credibility of the news media has been steadily declining since they went mute on the run up to the Iraq invasion. The media was relatively mute then, and the media is relatively mute on the issue of race in this presidential campaign. -
Posted By: gladd0814 @ 07/20/2008 8:21:46 AM
Comment: It was perfectly obvious that the cover was just another way to accuse conservatives of racism and bigotry. There was nothing sophisticated about it at all. Since the left has no substantive message of its own on how our society should be managed, this is all they have. The irony is that it was democrats who started the rumor that obama was a Muslim and it has been democrats who have been using racist and bigoted code words since the beginning of his campaign. The reaction to the New Yorker cover is just another example of how people need to lighted up and have a sense of humor. If we are ever going to have real racial equality then people are going to have to learn to laugh.
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Posted By: gladd0814 @ 07/20/2008 8:21:16 AM
Comment: It was perfectly obvious that the cover was just another way to accuse conservatives of racism and bigotry. There was nothing sophisticated about it at all. Since the left has no substantive message of its own on how our society should be managed, this is all they have. The irony is that it was democrats who started the rumor that obama was a Muslim and it has been democrats who have been using racist and bigoted code words since the beginning of his campaign. The reaction to the New Yorker cover is just another example of how people need to lighted up and have a sense of humor. If we are ever going to have real racial equality then people are going to have to learn to laugh.
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Posted By: gladd0814 @ 07/20/2008 8:07:52 AM
Comment: this is another example of how people need to lighten up and get a sense of humor. it was perfectly obvious to this sophisticated conservative that the new yorker was using this cover as just another way to accuse conservatives of being bigots and racists. this is filled with irony since it was democrats who started the rumor that obama was a muslim and have been using racist code words to talk about obama since the beginning of his campaign.
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Posted By: Gene44 @ 07/20/2008 7:22:04 AM
Comment: I had a good laugh over the satire cover from the New Yorker. It helps to laugh sometimes with all the bad news covered from A-Z.
I also had a good laugh presented by the Libyian President Omar Quafidi when he recently gave a speech that was carried live on Al Jazeera TV being beamed to all the Muslim nations (57 of them). In this speech he asks the question of what has happened to our Black Kenyian Muslim brother Obama? He gave a speech in which he told the Jews he would support their right to Jersualem which belongs to Muslims. Has he sold out to the white people in America? How can he expect us to support him unless he supports us?
Can anyone on any board answer the following question which he posed. Quafidi stated that our Muslim brother joined a Christian Church in Chicago and had been a member for 20 years, but, what faith was he following for the 26 years prior to joining this church? This church supports and works the Muslim Brotherhood so maybe not all is lost. -
Posted By: Gene44 @ 07/20/2008 7:14:41 AM
Comment: I had a good laugh at the satire cover of Senator Obama. I also had a good laugh on the Omar Quafidi speach he gave that was run on Al Jareeza TV that is sent into the entire Muslim world. He asks what has happened to our Kenyian black Muslim brother? He gave us such great hope and then he tells the Jews that he will defend their right to Jersualem! What is wrong with our brother, has he sold us our to the whites in America?
Senator Obama is now 46 years old and he joined the Unity Church 20 years ago by his own words. So that leaves 26 years in between. What was he for these 26 years? This is what Omar Quafidi is saying, that in reality Senator Obama is a Muslim and the church he joined supports the Muslim Brotherhood. -
Posted By: m180375 @ 07/20/2008 5:10:05 AM
Comment: Good gravy. We've been subjected to numerous op-eds, commentaries, and cartoons related to McCain's age and the supposed link to objective decision-making. You make one negative reference to Obama and it's off with your head. What a *** joke. He looks like a grinning twit with big-ass ears. There. Let's have at the racist comment and "don't you be touching my Messiah" outrage. This nation has gotten way too f'ing PC.
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Posted By: gliderpilot @ 07/20/2008 3:50:40 AM
Comment: Which candidate would support the following energy solution proposal, Obama or McCain?
Proposal: We know that the US Navy has been installing the S5W reactor in ships for about 50 years. These are perhaps the best reactors ever designed (they were designed by Admiral Rickover). These reactors have never had an accident. They are small and powerful. They can be transported on a RR flatcar. They can be returned to the factory for refueling. They can be cooled with fresh or salt water.
Let American cities purchase and install S5W reactors and distribute the power generated to rate payers. Set up S5W installations to generate hydrogen fuel which in turn may power cars and trucks. -
Posted By: gliderpilot @ 07/20/2008 3:19:22 AM
Comment: The reason the New Yorker cartoon got traction is that it has a truthful basis. The facts are that Obama did wear muslim garb, he did attend a medrassa, his birth name is Baraca Hussein Obama, he did identify with a church that defined itself by giving Louis Farrakhan a life achievement award, he did say that rural folks cling to their guns and religion, he did say that his grandmother is a typical white person - she is afraind of black men, his wife did say that she has never been proud of America.
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Posted By: ndrick @ 07/20/2008 2:27:53 AM
Comment: More dopey posts about where Obama is from, oh and by the way he is black for the racist posters. McBush needs to take a nap to go on the O'Brien show are you kidding me? Is this guy ready for the home? This election will bring a new start after the nightmare of the last 8 years of Bush and his criminal friends.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/20/2008 2:13:05 AM
Comment: Right on the heals of The New York cover comes the release of a new republican ad:
ABC NEWS
OBAMA 8 Min VIDEO: Montage of Contradictory Statements on IRAQ
Subliminal Messaging, or Over-Active Imaginations?
July 18, 2008 5:54 PM
By Rick Klein
EXCERPT:
There is a longtime tradition in political advertising to look beyond the message to the subtext -- and even to the subliminal.
In that spirit, a veteran Democratic operative offers an interesting observation of the newly released anti-Obama Web video produced by the McCain campaign. The VIDEO is an EIGHT-MINUTE montage of sometimes CONTRADICTORY statements about the Iraq war made by Sen. Barack Obama. (Continued in full article link below).
Warning: Make sure you are sitting down before you watch this video. . .you may become dizzy.
SEE 8 MINUTE VIDEO: Newly released as Obamas makes his trip overseas.
http://www.johnmccain.com/videolanding/documentary.htm
SEE FULL ARTICLE: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/subliminal-mess.html -
Posted By: FoxyBrown @ 07/20/2008 1:17:49 AM
Comment: I plan to make my cover of the New Yorker into a t-shirt. i think it's an accurate depiction of the Obamas. I dont know why the MSM and the O-bots are constantly trying to convince everyone he is not a Muslim and has never been involved with Islam. To me this is the highest insult, that we are all so stupid, ignorant, racist (take your pick) that we just can't see what is obvious or cannot add 1+1 to get 2. In Obama land, 1+1=whatever obama says on that day.
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Q. What do Obama and Osama have in common?
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Posted By: liberalguy @ 07/20/2008 1:15:20 AM
Comment: Barack Hussein Obama was born in
Honolulu,
Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from
Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita,
Kansas.As a moderate muslim I cannot longer tolerate obamahe and his wife are haters for his wife to say that this country is no good and this country has never been good to her,and obama should renounce his pastor jeremiah wright, who has connections with louis farakan, along with him being friend s with that underground guy william ayres he said its his firnd after he bomberd petagon in1972, he received money from william ayres,and this guybis way worst than mark richObama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two
years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a
RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia.Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta.He also spent two years in a Catholic school.Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school."Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that
Obama's
introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was
temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce,
and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,
introduced his stepson to Islam.Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim
terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking Major
public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined
the
United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim
background.Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential
candidacy.The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside
out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the
President of the United States, one of their own!!!!ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT use
the Holy Bible, but instead the Kuran (Their equivalency to our Bible,
but very different beliefs)Obama also refuses to pledge allegiance the the USA flag. How can
someone who wants to be president refuse to commit to the USA.Before you vote for any candidate I'm sure you can search the internet
and find out about all the candidates.O f course he is amuslim his own brother in kenta said so!! their is excerts of this onyou tube were brit hume reports this, you are what your father is -
Posted By: College Dad @ 07/20/2008 12:50:11 AM
Comment: To those who disparage Obama: what are you offering America. McCain?
McCain is a cheating, flip-flopping, muddled politician who thought the Iraq war would be a cakewalk. He continually says that his closest advisors don't represent his (McCain"s) own beliefs. Yet only recently, McCain praised the same people he is disavowing now. If McCain disagrees so strongly with his closest advisors, why did he make them advisors in the first place? McCain is obviously lying about this issue.
Obama is a paragon of virtue when McCain's distortions are considered.
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Posted By: gliderpilot @ 07/20/2008 3:37:40 AM
Comment: While Obama made opposition to the Iraq war his signal issue, McCain recommended a surge. McCain was right and Obama was wrong. McCain also has the sensible approach to a strong economy (low taxation and low federal spending) and reduced energy costs (offshore drilling and nuclear power). Obama is opposed to new drilling and to nuclear power. Obama is an inexperienced novice opporturnist, while McCain has the seasoned wisdom that only comes with good sense and long experience. McCain is also a patriot that nobody doubts, while Obama is suspect of being an America hater that only wants change to the far left.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/20/2008 2:21:43 AM
Comment: College Dad, you say that McCain thought the Iraq war would be a cakewalk. Source of infor is? Link?
You speak of McCain disavowing his advisors, at least his advisors were not at the core of his SPIRITUAL being like Obamas spiritual advisor, his pastor and close friend (like an uncle) that he thru under the bus (finally) for political expediency.
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Posted By: College Dad @ 07/20/2008 12:32:15 AM
Comment: We finally have a candidate in Obama who wants to build America using those qualities that have made it great (a willingness to rise to the occasion using new methods), but who is willing to forgo the ineffectual strategies that have held it back in the past.
Obama gives us a chance to move forward, seize the initiative, and begin a new era of innovation and prosperity.
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Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/20/2008 2:21:21 AM
Comment: What bigger government? Higher taxes? More regulation? Increased government spending? More government programs?
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Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 07/20/2008 3:07:58 AM
Comment: desertgirl, maybe if there had been regulations on the lending institutions by the government, we would not be having the home foreclosures!! Talk about increased govt spending!! Have you had your head in the sand? The current administration has run up enormous debt on a needless war and has NEGLECTED our country. From all the deaths and damage done by Katrina and the latest storms and the rising Mississippi River, we find out the levees were in poor shape and could not retain the waters. Just a couple of examples where some portion of those billions of dollars could have been spent to fix those levees and prevent such damages and loss of lives. It is so funny to see/hear you Republicans try and discredit a man who has more wisdom and vision than that member of the geriatric political brigade, McCain, who believes his being shot down and taken POW 35 years ago qualifies him for the Office of the Presidency. Everybody calls him a hero for being a POW. Do you know the man was reprimanded by his commanders? They told him he would NEVER make admiral; he had shamed the McCain name, his unit, the U.S.Navy, and The United States of America. McCain had to have committed major infractions to merit such severe reprimands! I wonder if this is why McCain sealed his military records?? As far as the hero portion, McCain was never awarded "THE METAL OF HONOR"!! This metal is reserved for the TRUE HEROES. By claiming he is a hero because of being a POW, McCain is demeaning our TRUE HEROES, those superbly brave military who literally risk their own lives by putting the lives of their troops before their own. A good number of our these selfless members of our military have received "The Metal of Honor" posthumously. Perhaps McCain would answer WHY he decided to return to the target he had just hit?? WHY was he flying low and slow?? This is really bizarre!! Did he want to look at the carnage he had caused?? As far as I know, once a target is attacked, the pilot immediately returns or it home base. There is a lot about McCain we do not know! And frankly, I do not trust him; he'll be the second coming of GWB and we'll get more of the sameo, sameo.
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Posted By: Pete Kent @ 07/20/2008 12:32:12 AM
Comment: In every joke a little truth. I think the Obama's set themselves up for this. Thiers is clearly a different kind of patriotism and Obama surely is not the sort of cheerleader in chief the country years for.
Worse their reaction has portrayed them as sour and humorless people who are hypertensive and cannot take a joke. Those are not the best of qualities to look for in a first couple.
The New Yorker cartoon touched a raw nerve and picked a scab that the Obama's had self-inflicted -- going back to her Princeton thesis and negative remarks about this country as recently as this Spring and with his having found Jesus in at the knee of bigoted man who has contempt for America but affection for Louis Farrakhan and Muamur Quadafi.
It's ain't all that complicated, folks.
Couple this with Obama being on the wrong side of the war and energy debates and you have the makings of a draft Hillary movement!
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Posted By: deconnollyjr @ 07/20/2008 12:15:47 AM
Comment: The fact that Barack denies his Muslim roots so vehemently tells me he is politically expedient in in big way. Being Muslim is not in style in America today, so he will deny his father, his name, his genes, and his upbringing to distance himself from a perceived threat to his presidential aspirations. What difference does it make what religion you are? God is God, regardless of what format you wish to worship. Then, comparing himself to John F. Kennedy constantly is deranged, and tasteless. Kennedy served his country in a world war, and received this nations highest honor for it, as well as ultimately giving his life in service to his country. I find it revolting that Barack is trying to come off as the second coming, and someone we can't live without. Al Gore would have had the same platform on most issues, maybe he just doesn't have the charisma, and in this T.V. age that is Barack's real claim to fame.
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Posted By: FatKat66 @ 07/19/2008 11:24:49 PM
Comment: Ms. Clift, the Germans are really good at picking leaders. In the 30's they choose Hitler to lead them into blistering hell. But if you feel better because the Germans are getting weak-kneed over B. Hussein, remember that it has taken them nearly 50 years to crawl out of the ashes of that previous choice. So I feel glad that you feel glad that Europe welcomes B. Hussein. Perhaps instead to speaking at Victory Column, he should be speaking from the bottom of the Winged Ash Bin to better reflect his German environment. Long live Europe!
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Posted By: PacificGatePost @ 07/19/2008 10:53:08 PM
Comment: OBAMA WILL HAVE DIFFICULTY MEETING EXPECTATIONS, INCLUDING HIS OWN ---
Obama???s impossible road ahead:
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Posted By: doctorfixit @ 07/19/2008 10:35:39 PM
Comment: I found the cartoon immensely accurate, highly amusing and a perfect example of satire. For years the marxist cartoonists have had a field day with vicious libelous portrayals of conservatives. It's time for a little "fairness doctrine" in political satire. I just wish this cartoonist would also do a similar a cartoon of Mohammed . Those Muslims sure need to develop a sense of humor.
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Posted By: FannieFred @ 07/19/2008 10:28:56 PM
Comment: Ms. Clift may have a point ...somewhere. All of us bitter, gun-toting, and religion clinging voters probably just look at the Internet pictures without reading the elitist scorn about why we question Obama's ties to people like Rashid Khalidi who speaks with Ahmadinejad (Columbia visit) and Bill Ayers. We ask why Raila Odinga says Obama is his cousin, why Obama campaigned for him, and these little things that the media ignores.
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Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/20/2008 2:19:43 AM
Comment: Come on, now just admit that you didn't support Obama from Day 1 for the same reason that other people won't vote for Obama: His skin color.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/20/2008 2:30:11 AM
Comment: NAME-CALLING
When one is called a Racist, a Bigot, a White Supremacist, the arguer is not simply trying to define a person's position but is trying to define a person. When in the course of debate, one is called by someone a racist, et al, that person is not trying to clarify an argument but to end one. Racist is not an argument, it is a pejorative. Let's allow Jared Taylor of the New Century Foundation explain:
If someone calls you a RACIST s/he has completely shifted his ground and is not dealing with facts or logic anymore. He is saying You are bad!, which is PURE EMOTION. Prof. Michael Levin, author of Why Race Matters, says this kind of CHILDISH OUTBURST makes no more sense than calling someone a POOPOO-HEAD. Grownups do it only because it works, and it works only because so many whites are invertebrates.
The silliness of the RACISM charge is especially clear if you are talking about racial differences in IQ. Just point out that the only legitimate issue is how to interpret the evidence. Your conclusions are either right or wrong. If someone stops trying to explain why you are wrong and instead starts calling you names, it is a sure sign he cannot explain why you are wrong, hich is because you are right. (American Renaissance, June 2001) : http://www.stormloader.com/need2know/names.htm-
Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 07/20/2008 3:23:30 AM
Comment: Sharenews, You have quoted another article. You should give the author of that article due credit and not claim it as your own. At the very least, protocol calls for (QUOTE) just before what you are quoting and close it with (UNQUOTE)
The Hilliary supporters and the Repubs take the lead and win hands down in name calling. They not only lie about the good senator from Illinois, they downright slaner him and call him every ugly name in the book!! Then they call his supports cultists, ignorant, stupid, Obamaheads, mindless sheep, etc, etc. I have never in my life witness such hate as these folks spew. I call it a severe case of diarrhea of the mouth!!
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Posted By: j_jaime197 @ 07/19/2008 10:18:23 PM
Comment: this is disgusting to note how stupid is the american electorate. where in the world have you seen a virtually unknown politician leading in a presidential election. because of his sheer mastery of the words... maybe next elections will be swamped with writers and poets. america i hope will not drop its stature in the succeeding years because obama himself is damaging americas standing by telling the world how bad the economy is and we are in recession. this is an example of politics of fear... is this the change we are looking for.
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Posted By: loriw @ 07/19/2008 9:53:11 PM
Comment: If you think "Americas problems will vanish the moment Obama puts his hand on the Bible.." Ms Clift, you will be very disappointed. Obama has yet to be made the nominee, has yet to win and even if he does I doubt he has that much magical power.
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Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/20/2008 1:32:49 AM
Comment: Sadly, people who make comments about Obama (or any Presidential candidate) fixing everything have never read the document that started it all: The US Constitution.
Separation of powers? WTF is that?
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Posted By: stpblk @ 07/19/2008 9:29:46 PM
Comment: Well no nation remain powefull forever.This could be the USA turn to see that another nation to take over(I am thinking China)with the election of Obama.The guy an agenda,but he can not articulate it ,that is why he is all over the map.If he outline it,not even his black base will not vote for him.Can he hide it until ovember?It remain to be seen.
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Posted By: legoo @ 07/19/2008 9:06:02 PM
Comment: i have decided that Clift is stupid, stupid, stupid. She thinks that everyone who hears Obama speak would readily support him and doesn't consider (as most reporters don't) that the fact that people don't support him is b/c they do not believe in his liberal agenda. It not b/c people are shallow or racist as she implies. Obama is the emperor with no clothes who believes in raising taxes in a recession. No one would be elected with this platform except the candidate that makes the conversation about "change" rather than "reality". And we all will be the worse for it. Most european economies are basically socialist so why wouldnt they welcome Obama's election.
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Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/20/2008 2:17:48 AM
Comment: We are not in a recession (based on the evidence so far). That doesn't mean we couldn't end up in one.
And for those who study financial history, raising taxes during economic downturns (like recessions) makes things worse AND can even cause or worsen a depression.
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Posted By: Appman @ 07/19/2008 8:38:45 PM
Comment: TOO FUNNY FOR WORDS --- Libs whine over anything except the God Damning of America that is!
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Posted By: fishzack @ 07/19/2008 8:05:54 PM
Comment: The cover is satirizing things said or implied repeatedly by cable news networks about Obama; questions about his patriotism, his wife's "radicalism," his religion and upbringing, are raised over and over again on tv, starting with Fox, migrating to CNN, then spreading from there. Why are you attacking the satire of this, which -- even if it fails completely to be understood as satire by some or many -- is much less harmful to Obama or to simple accuracy than the original slanders that this cover tries to mock? Where is your indignant article about the claims made on Fox that Obama is a Muslim, that they have a "secet tape" of Michelle, that he may be an anti-Semite deep down, etc., etc.? To attack a New Yorker cover cartoon and stay silent about Sean Hannity false accusations and insinuations? Maybe it's because you're a regular on Fox yourself?
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Posted By: wwsword @ 07/19/2008 7:56:56 PM
Comment: I am more concerned with The New Yorker working to elect Barack Obama than anything else. Obama is a disaster for progressive democratic politics. If The New Yorker really wanted to do sharp satire, they would have depicted Obama as a candidate running for the nomination of the Republican Party.
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Posted By: beep @ 07/19/2008 6:11:59 PM
Comment: Seems to me that in order to level the playing field what the New Yorker needs to do is run a cover of John McCain with a tiny mustache dressed in the garb of a Nazi stormtrooper - that would be great satire.
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Posted By: pnkearns @ 07/19/2008 5:13:57 PM
Comment: Interesting...
The "intelligent" Dem/left elite are too stupid to understand satire. Amazingly enough, not one Dem/left pundit has defended the New Yorker's right to free press.
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Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/20/2008 2:15:18 AM
Comment: I DO think Obama said something along the lines of free speech/press. About a day AFTER the cartoon broke. I am not an Obama supporter, but I like facts.
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Posted By: mistermcfrugal @ 07/19/2008 4:24:59 PM
Comment: Just as bit of aside, I've read many of the posting here and would like to ask the left leaning writer to consider a style change. If the people on the left are so smart, so sophisticated and more knowledgeable than the misfits on the right, would you please consider using more creative language? I mean, repeated use of the phrase "McSame" or "McBush" is boring, very boring. Can't you geniuses come up with something better? In other words, don't you run a huge risk of reader alienation using that "McSame" phrase? If I see that 'same' phrase another ten thousand times between now and this same time in October, I'm going to think that use of that same phrase refers to another idiot leftist. Get it??
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Posted By: mistermcfrugal @ 07/19/2008 4:24:40 PM
Comment: Just as bit of aside, I've read many of the posting here and would like to ask the left leaning writer to consider a style change. If the people on the left are so smart, so sophisticated and more knowledgeable than the misfits on the right, would you please consider using more creative language? I mean, repeated use of the phrase "McSame" or "McBush" is boring, very boring. Can't you geniuses come up with something better? In other words, don't you run a huge risk of reader alienation using that "McSame" phrase? If I see that 'same' phrase another ten thousand times between now and this same time in October, I'm going to think that use of that same phrase refers to another idiot leftist. Get it??
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Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/20/2008 2:13:38 AM
Comment: Good point. I would also like to know how so many of the educated, intelligent, who know so much more than us troglodytes, know absolutely zip about economics. There's some reality for you.
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Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 07/20/2008 3:45:24 AM
Comment: McCain, himself, admitted he did not know anything about economics. Gramm has coached him and McCain parrots. McCain knows nothing about economics, period. Also, he is so backwards, he doesn't even know how to use a computer!!! Obviously he has made no effort to stay abreast of modern technology!! Has made no effort to take classes and smarten up on economics either. He is out of touch with the modern world, the country and us, the people. Why should he concern himself with what is actually going on with our middleclass and the poor? He has seven, yes, seven houses and never has to worry about any personal financial problems, he never has to worry about having enough food to eat or a warm bed in which to sleep. The man is behind the times. McCain just wants to be president before he keels over. Afterall, he believes his POW status of 35 years ago prepared him for the Presidency !
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Posted By: mistermcfrugal @ 07/19/2008 4:02:24 PM
Comment: Sorry Eleanor, but the New Yorker cover was a bit a of "Freudian" slip in that it did capture more than a bit of the truth about those Obamas. It is a well documented fact that the Missus hates the U.S. As to Mr. Obama himself, one need only look at the hate filled church he belonged to for 20 years to get the idea that Obama likely has Muslim "hate the U.S." ideas. Just because shills for the Mainstream Media insist that Obama is some kind of Christian means nothing. The MSM will say anything to help Obama and hurt McCain. While the New Yorker cover may be a little overblown, there is much truth to it!
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Posted By: ivote2 @ 07/19/2008 3:36:30 PM
Comment: John McLaughlin, James Carville, Jesse Jackson and Barack Obama are talking.
McLaughlin: "Barack, I'm sorry I called you an Oreo. That was tasteless and offensive."
Carville: "And I'm sorry I said you didn't have any cajones. That was also tastless and offensive."
Jesse: " And I'm sorry I said I'd like to cut off your nuts, if you have any that is."
Barack: "Don't worry about it guys. Despite what they say, I can take a joke. It was all in good fun."
Jesse: "Well, Barack, I don't know about these other guys, but I wasn't joking. I really would like to cut your nuts off.
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Posted By: Goldenah @ 07/19/2008 3:07:21 PM
Comment: Nice article. But I don't have the faith you (Ms. Clift) have in anyone, whether in the media or the American public to not have "issues" with a person of color running for President. I'm not holding my breath that this country will "change" all that much.
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Posted By: anotherview @ 07/19/2008 2:51:02 PM
Comment: Again Newsweek's bias is clear.
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Posted By: HouseOfSin @ 07/19/2008 2:47:02 PM
Comment: I have to disagree with your assertion that "the reason Obama is ahead by only a handful of points in a political environment poisonous for Republicans is because of lingering concern over his "exotic" (that's the code word) name and background." There are many reasons why this may be the case. I'm a lifelong, educated, urban Democrat. I'm struggling with my choice this year because I simply do not have faith in Senator Obama. He has spent most of the last 15 years running for the next level office and not much more.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/20/2008 2:38:55 AM
Comment: You and I and many many others are in the same boat. That is for sure.
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Posted By: BillyC @ 07/19/2008 2:32:43 PM
Comment: OK, now I get it !
New Yorker front cover satire for Dem / lefties = insulting and in bad taste.
New Yorker front cover satire fo Rep / righties = Humorous and on point.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/20/2008 2:41:18 AM
Comment: The artist who depicted this satire (say that loosely) will go down in history of the mag as being criticized and heralded for both reasons you state. Either way he has made his mark for sure.
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Posted By: ladeyday @ 07/19/2008 2:27:03 PM
Comment: Right on analysis of that cover. Many of us get it, but most don't. The majority of people who will see this cover (and by now, almost everyone must have) cannot discern it's satirical intent as most of us are unwilling to think past sound bites or visuals. Others who get it will use it to propagandize for someone (McCain) who is unfit for office due to his lame campaign, flip-flops, disdain for women, and questionable mental capacity. The New Yorker, by dislaying this cartoon, joined the ranks of the corporate media who do not report any of the reasons (just the truth will do) not to vote for .McCain.
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Posted By: jgomez_miranda @ 07/19/2008 6:13:50 PM
Comment: It is offending and condescending to think that only you and the people of your group are intelligent enough to understand a simple carton while the rest of us are too uneducated and uninformed to do it. That is the problem with Barack Obama and most of his supporters they think they are the only owners of the revealed truth and the rest of us have not been illuminated with that wisdom. People feel your superiority complex and this is one of the reasons that Obama is just head to head with McCain in a year that should be a Democratic landslide
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Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/20/2008 2:11:37 AM
Comment: Okay, now that you've had your two minutes please go sit down and be quiet. Let the "intelligent" people make all the decisions.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/20/2008 2:43:24 AM
Comment: Are you sure you are not Pia in disguise? LMAO.
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Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 07/19/2008 8:42:14 PM
Comment: Well said and right on the money!
It blows my mind that so many left-leaning bloggers are up in arms about this silly cartoon. Conversely, every conservative person I've spoken with about it immediately recognized it as satire, aimed at us! If anyone should be upset, it is those of us on the conservative side of the isle.
The left wing's condescending attitude is off the charts on this one.
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Posted By: danwaa @ 07/19/2008 2:19:28 PM
Comment: The damage President Bush has done to America's image abroad is greatly exaggerated. That one under experienced politician like Obama Barack can single handedly change the world' s perception of The USA is extremely rediculous and it shows a lack of insight by those who think this way. If one man can change the world's perception of the US, it shows how irrellevent that perception is and how twisted it is. The worlds perception of the US will not improve for long if Obama becomes president, because the world will see that the US no longer has a strong and good leader.
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Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 07/20/2008 4:09:26 AM
Comment: Really? You consider GWB a strong an good leader?? Okay, you are entitled to your opinion. No, Senator Obama cannot singlehandedly change the world; however he will make a good start by being more open to world leaders. Nothing has ever worked well when our President labels other countries as the Axis of Evil. Look at how the world looks at us, we have lost total respect!! Other leaders are "polite" to our current president. His rating as President is now at about 26-27. NOT good!! I think a lot of people underestimate Senator Obama's power, yes, power. He is a strong and powerful man and wants to SERVE our country. You see, Barack Obama comes from humble beginnings, has worked hard to get to where he's at and I applaud him that at age 46 he is running for president of this great nation. He has done it on his merit. He does not have the power of a political family, he is not riding on anybody's coattails, and I give him kudos for that also. What Barack Obama brings are good character, integrity, good judgement, wisdom, vision, outstaniding leadership qualities, outstanding financial managerial skills. He is brilliant, smart, and extremely intelligent. To me, all these qualities chump the false claims of experience, such as McCain is using. FACT: NOONE HAS THE PRESIDENTIAL EXPERIENCE UNLESS HE/SHE IS THE INCUMBENT AND IS RUNNING FOR REELECTION.
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Posted By: ivote2 @ 07/19/2008 2:03:53 PM
Comment: Approved by the Campaign to Eliminate Humor in Politics If It's Aimed at Barack Obama:
Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are talking. Bill says, "You know, Barack, no matter what happens, I'll still go down in history as the FIRST black President of the United States." Barack says, "But you know, Bill, you're not REALLY black." Bill thinks a minute and says, "That's true, but I was REALLY the President." -
Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 07/19/2008 1:55:54 PM
Comment: Good cartoon about a bad candidate-STICK! "Cling" and "bitter" stupid comments-STICK! Buddies with accused terrorist in the USA-STICK!
Maybe the New Yorker is trying to purchace the appearence that the New Yorker opposes Obama to pre-position some NEUTRALITY, for the day the New Yorker blasts Mccain and urges everyone to support Obama!
A strategy! Which will also stick! Like so many other things. And more counting...
...sees fallen heroes not there-STICK! And whats he going to say and mean or not mean over seas?
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Posted By: John Marshall @ 07/19/2008 1:54:54 PM
Comment: Your opinion piece berates the New Yorker because its cartoon can be understood as anti-Obama. Therefore, your position is really troubling. Are you saying that the New Yorker should do nothing that can be understood as anti-Obama? Are you saying that satirists should do nothing that can be understood as anti-Obama? May I ask you, why? Why can't the New Yorker be the New Yorker and satirists satirists? How much should we, the ordinary American folk, give to ensure Obama's election? Why is your magazine willing to designate itself as pro-Obama, pro-PC, anti-satire, and anti-free speech?
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Posted By: John Marshall @ 07/19/2008 1:46:50 PM
Comment: Hi.
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Posted By: ivote2 @ 07/19/2008 1:40:51 PM
Comment: This joke has been officially approved by " Barak Obama Can't Be Made Fun Of Committee"
Ma and Pa Kettle are driving to church on Sunday in their Chevy pick-up truck with 7 kids in the back dressed in clean, pressed overalls. Pa sez to Ma: "Now that our girl lost, who ya gonna vote for." Ma sez: "i'm still votin' for Hillary." Pa sez, "How ya gonna do that Ma? She ain't gonna be on the ballot." Ma sez: " Well, I guess I'll jes rite her name in." Pa sez: "Damn Ma, I didn't know you could rite." -
Posted By: BillyC @ 07/19/2008 1:23:57 PM
Comment: LOL.............
Definition of New Yorker terrribly offensive cover: when it lampoons a warm and fuzzy Dem / leftie.
Definition of a New Yorker terribly satirical and humorous cover: when il lampoons a Rep. / rightie.
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Posted By: Cressonpa @ 07/19/2008 1:18:32 PM
Comment: Elanor-Just read these comments-You are so out of touch--Keep it up-With Hussein Obama moving to the center ,his cabal of 18-34 voters will quickly lose thier passion for their naive causes.
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Posted By: militarybooks @ 07/19/2008 1:17:58 PM
Comment: As someone who has been in adverstising and marketing most of my adult life, I can tell you why the New Yorker cover struck a nerve: because it resonates. Why? Because we know so little about Obama, but what we DO know (his judgments, his associations, his pastor, his wife, etc.) SUPPORTS, in the worst way, the New Yorker cover. It was effective because it has glimmers of truth running through it. And that is why it will be with us until election day.
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Posted By: ivote2 @ 07/19/2008 1:13:35 PM
Comment: So now that we know that their are "approved" jokes that you can tell about Obama, Here's One:
2 Hillarybillies are sitting on a fence chewin' tobacca and cleanin' their guns. One says, "Now that our girl lost, who ya gonna vote for, Bubba?" Bubba says, "Well, not Barack Obama. He's got a funny name and he's a MORMON." Billy Bob says, "Bubba, That's Mitt Romney!" Bubba scratches his haid, thinks a minute and says, "I didn't know Mitt Romney was black." -
Posted By: Cressonpa @ 07/19/2008 1:06:36 PM
Comment: Elanor you have lost it._So have all the far left and east coast socialists. This guy at best is a girly man.No self -respecting man or patriot will vote for this Marxist. Higher taxes,no energy plan other than ,do with less.His wife is an angry racist .Just picturing her in the Whitehouse is enough to convince soccer moms to be repulsed. Rev.Wright ,Ayers and the drug use---The fun has just begun !
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Posted By: cuppa jo @ 07/19/2008 12:58:09 PM
Comment: Why does the MSM continue to be cheerleaders for one specific presidential candidate. If Obama can't handle it, he shouldn't be running for the highest office of the land. Get over yourselves!
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Posted By: JournalismNOT @ 07/19/2008 12:40:09 PM
Comment: Elaenor,
With all due respect and at least a modicum of unearned deference, when the hell did it become the job of journalists (and I employ that term in the broadest possible sense) to devote the full compliment of their efforts to safeguarding the image of a presidential candidate. I understand the irrational exuberance of your cabal of secular sychophants upon first glimpsing the radiant salvific splendor of an unexpected and unanticipated Messiah, but you must remember you still have a day job. Couldn't you, Chris Matthews and your fellow worshippers gather on the weekends for extended restless leg syndrome rituals and still exercise your critical thinking skills during the work week? -
Posted By: Avetoom @ 07/19/2008 12:18:38 PM
Comment: It is is difficult to discern Mr. Obama's core beliefs because he works hard to leave no trail. In three years as a senator, Mr. Obama voted "present" 130 times (rather than say "yes" or "no" to a piece of legislation). Shouldn't someone who wants to be president be more willing to be on record with a decision? Shouldn't a lawmaker make laws? You say his greatest gift is to move people, but so far his only writing has been
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Posted By: jjaffie @ 07/19/2008 12:40:43 PM
Comment: that was when he was a state legislator
mccain has missed more votes in every session of congress, he can't even show up to listen & learn. that's not the kind of president I want
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Posted By: DannoJyd @ 07/19/2008 11:53:45 AM
Comment: Congrats on getting it right this time, Eleanaor. Your comment, "The Republicans are trying to write the narrative that Obama has no core beliefs, that he's a flip-flopper and we don't know what he stands for." hits it right on the head. Where you miss is in understanding that those are all true.
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Posted By: Lynne00 @ 07/19/2008 11:45:55 AM
Comment: Eleanor Clift, you are full of bullshit. What can a novice like Obama really do except excite old women like you and young kids? The New Yorker correctly depicted him and his corrupt muslim ideas and those of his wife too. How appropriate. Whot the *** cares about Europe and what they think of our president.
This guy is a danger to the free world. You are just plain stupid and older than John McCain, at least you look it and sound it. BTW I trust and repspect John McCain and I am an upscale white woman from the south, not an old hag hasbeen newsperson from the east like you are.-
Posted By: Moman @ 07/24/2008 8:20:46 AM
Comment: Upscale White Woman from the South heh?.....I grew up in the South and based on your emotional Tirade here, it has not improved much in the tolerance department even though there was a premium on decor and manners then. If you are typical of the John McCain supporter then we are in trouble!
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Posted By: JaneMS @ 07/19/2008 11:36:48 AM
Comment: A leftist magazine shows the truth and all the obamabots with stiffies for him can't handle it..
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Posted By: Dan-O-Dan @ 07/19/2008 11:34:14 AM
Comment: Eleanor,
It frightens me that the media is so obviously taking an active role in trying to help someone get elected, rather than serving as a neutral observer--our eyes and ears. And, according to you, Obama's chief qualifications are that, a) he moves people, and b) he moves the rest of the world. Holy God, what about POLICY? What about EXPERIENCE? What about PLANS FOR THE COUNTRY? He has no record of accomplishment, and now the digging is showing he is a calculating and shallow politician. If he had the same credentials, and was white, would he the nominee? Of course the answer is NO. He is the first Affirmative Action president. God help us. -
Posted By: john02 @ 07/19/2008 11:26:22 AM
Comment: Since when is the "ability to move people" the highest attribute we look for in our Presidents? Adolph Hitler, among countless othere despots over the centuries, clearly possessed such a gift. That may be what you are looking for in our next leader, but I think I'll stick to evaluating the positions the candidates take as well as the character they have displayed over the years.
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Posted By: avid reader @ 07/19/2008 11:13:48 AM
Comment: Where were the complaints by Eleanor Clift and her cohorts regarding the nasty depictions of President Bush? Oh sorry that's right, Republicans deserve that kind of treatment.. By the way Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ a demonination that is actually Unitarian and Unitarian is not Christian. I speak as a former UCC member.
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Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/19/2008 10:57:06 AM
Comment: Make this election a referendum onMcSame (McBush) and the GOP (Greedy Oil Party).
Obama is by far the more talented, and his wife is fabulous - smart, well educated and charming, powerful in her own right and in her own previous career, and a true role-model for girls across this nation - just as Hillary was and still is for many women and girls... The Conservatives picked on Hillary too.
The image on the New Yorker cartoon has people confused. Americans just don't "get" satire, irony, parody and the rest - not eve Hollywood does a good job in its creative efforts at these conceits. There is just not a good literary or artistic appreciation of these vehicles of expression - it's too complicated. And Elinor is right - many dummies will misinterpret the magazine cover and see it as reinforcement of the image.
But MOST Americans have a sense of humor and will take a cartoon as just that - satirirical humor... and forget about all the agonizing, hand-wringing, wimpering and maniacal extremists on the Right who are just as potentially damaging to America as the intensity of their patriotic vitriol to the opposite intent!-
Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/20/2008 2:05:57 AM
Comment: Yeah, he's talented alright. Talented at giving a decent speech. And hey he can even use a teleprompter. And he looks good in a suit. Let's vote him in NOW!
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Posted By: mrkcswll @ 07/19/2008 2:22:57 PM
Comment: Check out the rest of these posts if you think America will chalk this off.
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Posted By: mistermcfrugal @ 07/19/2008 4:12:18 PM
Comment: Man, this is what I call wishful thinking!!
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Posted By: jhgeorge1935 @ 07/19/2008 10:53:00 AM
Comment: There are many things that might have made this cartoon funny, how about the cartoon as a thought of some obvious bigots? Or not-- what if a prominent Jewish friend of McCain's such as Lieberman was portrayed as a Zionist Nazi along with all the usual Jewish hate crap thrown in-- would this be as funny as the Obama cartoon? I don't think so.
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Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/19/2008 10:59:01 AM
Comment: Yeah, I have to wonder how many Zioinists grace the editorial halls of the New Yorker, BTW. Perhaps they thought this was a good punch at Obama for not caring to lead us into a war against Iran on behalf of the mad-chicken Israeli state that we supply with nuclear and all other types of weapons.
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Posted By: Carl Y. @ 07/19/2008 10:45:01 AM
Comment: Ha ha ha... Great satire, Eleanor !
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Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/19/2008 10:42:20 AM
Comment: Why do all the dumbest people across this country support McSame?
Why do all the so-called "elites" and educated college grads in the urban centers tend to support Obama?
Because we are TIRED of being led by MORONs in the White House. THAT's the CHANGE that a new, fresh, SMART and polished communicative leader will bring - INTELLIGENCE and INFLUENCE - to the entire world, not just for the benefit of our countrymen.
Why is there still such reactionary resistance? Let the good thing happen and stop agonizing over whether or not this candidate is an elitist, an effect intellectual and an "exotic" personage. We need to get the BEST PERSON POSSIBLE into the WHITE HOUSE and this is NOT John McSame. That would be as bad or worse than allowing Mr. Bush Jr. to be "elected" by hook or by CROOK for two terms. We should CRAVE A HUGE CHANGE from this illegal, illicit, CHEATING, LYING WHITE HOUSE and PRESIDENT - and DISTANCE OURSELVES as far as humanly possible from a similar path ni the next four years.
DO NOT ELECT McSAME, McPAIN, McCAIN'T, McCOMPLAINT, McBubba, McMoron. It would be setting us back another 50 years and putting us on a sure course toward DECLINE. An aging, doddering old man with stale, old ideas backed by a derelict and obsolete GOP and a Trophy Wife who looks like she is a Stepford Robot.... You can't tell me that the majority of Americans will settle for this ultra-cliche of a Presidential candidate, this sheer and utter mediocrity, this lack of innovation, creativity and intelligence???
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Posted By: mrkcswll @ 07/19/2008 2:33:51 PM
Comment: Your "elites" and Urban college graduates obviously think they are better than that, but then you guys have your noses so far up in the air you have no idea how real America thinks. You guys went for Kerry big time yet his scholastic record was worse than Bush's. The manner in which you have written your comment betrays the worst kind of bigotry as you call most Americans dumb (far less than 50% are college graduates) while all the while you express support for a guy that if he were white would not be seriously considered for the office by anyone. Dispute that if you like.
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Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/20/2008 2:04:57 AM
Comment: How educated and intelligent is it to call other people names rather than to argue based on facts and policies? It just makes people who insult others look equally stupid.
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Posted By: holmantx @ 07/19/2008 10:25:25 AM
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Posted By: chefmhf @ 07/19/2008 10:23:38 AM
Comment: or put his hand on the Qur'an
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