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  • Posted By: SirHawc @ 07/19/2008 4:20:01 PM

    This is a sick idea he had, making that calendar. Those kind of things are stupid anyway for boys or girls. Theone76, we're concerned with the good image we try to build for the Lord, not interested in judgeing others, where'd you get that idea?! Really, this calendar is trying to put the church WITH the world, not seperate us as we will be totally eventually (thank goodness). The world is going downwards, and we're standing our ground and keeping good, moral standards. That's all I have to say, take care! :)

    I don't care what you respond to this, I won't be checking back, not worth the time. IF you want to know the truth, check out the source at mormon.org.

    • Posted By: sadiemetz @ 07/19/2008 4:37:46 PM

      Judgemental people exist in every religious group known to man, whether it be Buddhists, Catholics, Baptists, Mormons, or INDEPENDENT FUNDAMENTAL BAPTISTS, so get over your attitudes and let these people worship as they choose. No one has the right to say another human lives....you are all hippocrits in someone else's eyes!! If you do not like the magazine, well then, DUH, don't buy it or look at it.......

  • Posted By: tha8 @ 07/19/2008 4:26:20 PM

    lilbiddy104022... LOL... You made me laugh... By the way, I'll post my original comments several more times, as you did, to ensure just as many people read mine as yours... I know more than you think about the Mormon faith and their ideals... Although I am NOT one, I have several friends and their families who are. My comments were meant more to 'stir the pot' because the whole issue is still ridiculous to me and will continue to be so. Why do the rights of "the Church" supercede the rights of the individuals who make up that church? Why can't handsome young men take a picture without their shirts on without it being a poor reflection on "the church"??? Why does it have to be "offensive" at all??? Good grief... It's not like they were nude... showing erect genitals or something... I repeat, give me a break!!! Oh, and I know all about when the LDS banned polygamy.... Thanks.... You just HATE that I brought it up... You can't hide from your past, babe... NOR your present... and today, your religion is just as self-righteous as it ever was... I'm sure you'll post more on the subject but I'm done! I'm bored with it... Oh, but I better get my order in on the new calendar before they are all sold out! Mmmmm....

    • Posted By: SirHawc @ 07/19/2008 4:35:53 PM

      Who care's about the polygamy thing? It's past and done. Drop it or not, it only matters with the people who want to find something wrong with the church, not get along with it.

  • Posted By: catscraps @ 07/19/2008 3:43:23 PM

    If you'd like some insight into what the LDS believe, you might try this blog: puzzlingbofm.blogspot.com. Very interesting stuff.

    • Posted By: inthemiddleoftheroad @ 07/19/2008 3:51:38 PM

      Or INSTEAD, why not go to the source. Don't you think they would be more accurate? http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/

      • Posted By: catscraps @ 07/19/2008 3:55:22 PM

        I have gone to the source. I've read the book of mormon and know what it says. I encourage everyone to read it and compare it to the Bible and history/science for accuracy.

        • Posted By: inthemiddleoftheroad @ 07/19/2008 4:35:43 PM

          Why do you have to compare it to the Bible. It is a totally different book than the Bible. Mormons believe in the Bible too. One of the standards of the church is, "We believe the Bible to be the word of God, as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God." Another states "We claim the priveldge of worshipping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privledge, let them worship how, where, or what they may."

          If you have read the Book of Mormon, you should know then that it is just an account or story of the trials of people from long ago who tried and failed and tried again, to live as Christ wanted them to. Right on the front of the Book of Mormon it says, "Another testament of God."

          Live and let live!

  • Posted By: tha8 @ 07/19/2008 4:12:38 PM

    Who cares if you practice polygamy or not.....??? You're still just as inflexible, demeaning, self-righteous and backwards a religion as you ever were... Be upset all you want... Call me ignorant all you want... It won't change the fact that your CHURCH is in an UPROAR about grown men posing without a SHIRT ON in 2008!!! Now, really... just WHO is the ignorant one???

    • Posted By: SirHawc @ 07/19/2008 4:30:44 PM

      Tha8, when you have standards, you keep them, you don't go with the flow. I doubt you're ignorant, though I'm guessing (optimistically) you have standards, but rarely follow them. If you want to stand for something clean rather than a sexual image (and you can't deny they are those things), then you NEED to get upset about stuff your people do if you want to stand as a person being the best they can. There's a reason to get upset right there.

    • Posted By: inthemiddleoftheroad @ 07/19/2008 4:22:37 PM

      I don't think the Church is in an uproar. They already took care of the issue. You sound like you are in an uproar. And by the way, ignorance means that you lack knowledge, which you clearly do. While you rethink your question, give a thought to what tolerance means. (and it doesn't mean to accept, just to understand and not judge!)

  • Posted By: knowitb4usayit @ 07/19/2008 4:29:43 PM

    I think that the people who replied to this article should actually look at the teachings of the LDS church (Mormon is an outdated nickname). There is nothing fundamental about the Christian teachings of the LDS church. As a member of this church I have never felt bullied. Furthermore, many members of the LDS church are highly educated people. In fact, the LDS church encourages its members to get an education. I think it is best to seek out accurate information about the church rather than simply spreading narrow-minded opinions about something that you may not fully understand.

  • Posted By: clarkabc22 @ 07/19/2008 4:27:10 PM

    It seems an odd thing that the man claims to be doing this to promote the church and his faith , so much that he was defiant when the church asked him to stop, and then apparently excommunicated when he didn't. It would seem to belies the nobility of his professed motives,

  • Posted By: DakotaClark @ 07/19/2008 3:48:45 PM

    Hmmm... My Great-great-great grandfather emigrated from England in 1853, as part of the early groups of Mormons settling in Salt Lake City. The church excommunicated my father, because of his refusal to accept the church doctrine; and, for his belief that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a false religion.

    Therefore, I feel entitled, compelled, and obliged, to make a few comments. Much to the upset of my grandparents, mercifully, my mother refused to let my brother and I become members of the church. (The LDS Church indoctrination starts in infancy.) After studying about 40 religions, at age 21, I made the decision to become baptized - as a Presbyterian.
    However, I do not attend Presbyterian Church. If I need to speak with the boss, I attend the Little Church by the Seaside, or, The Church of the Forest.

    I do not like it very much that the Mormon Church feels obligated to ???baptize??? virtually every person on the planet, without the consent or knowledge of the individuals, I might add. I do not like being told what to wear, what to eat, what to drink, or, who to vote for in an election.

    The LDS Church hierarchy has very boxed thinking, and is not in step with modern times. In many parts of Uduh, including Salt Lake City, there are many ???Good Mormon??? households that contain more than one adult female. There is a wink and a nod at this behavior. Of course, this is in addition to the splinter groups that flaunt plural wives. Yet, the same ???elders??? that condone this behavior express upset and remorse at a calendar showing the bare chests of young men.

    The whole thing would be laughable if it was not so serious. I want to wish Mr. Hardy the best of luck in his commercial ventures. Being free of the shackles of the church can be quite liberating...

    • Posted By: jjjacks @ 07/19/2008 4:26:25 PM

      Why would your g g g grandfather want to be part of a religion that he didn't think was true anyway. That is why he was excomunicated. Also the groups that practice polygamy are not affiliated with the LDS church in any way. They were kicked out a way long time ago so I don't know why everytime there is something in the news about the LDS church, there is some comment about polygamy.

      We are in step with modern times. We have a prophet on the earth that recieves revelation for our day just like they did in the bible. About baptizing, if you don't think anything will come of it and we do not have the right authority then it probably shouldn't bother you. To you it would be just like having a bath but to the LDS church it is a sacred commandment. It really does not matter that you don't like it.

      The church gives it's members guidelines to live by so that the members can live better lives free of the problems that come with immorality and addictions. The reason why we don't smoke and drink strong drinks is probably because it is bad for us and this commandment came around before anyone even knew what cigarettes and alcohol did to your body so I think it is cool that the early leaders of the church recieved revelation for that. Also the standard to dress modestly shows that we respect our bodies and we don't advertise our goods to everyone. I don't see anything wrong with respecting your body.

      I just don't agree with your comments. You need to get your facts straight. The church cannot and does not condone trying to control people. The LDS church teaches the pure doctrine of Jesus Christ and that's it.

    • Posted By: inthemiddleoftheroad @ 07/19/2008 4:04:32 PM

      Dakota, you have your facts all wrong. I would hope that ANY religion would excommunicate a member for refusing to believe the religion is true. If that is how your father felt, wasn't he glad to be excommunicated? Then what's the problem? All churches and religions want to baptize their members. It is because the Bible tells us that we must be baptized. So why are you upset that Mormons want to baptize people - the Presbytarian church baptized you! The LDS church does not tell its members what to do. They set guidelines, that incidentally ALWAYS leave politics out of the equation, just as Christ sets guidelines for us. So what is wrong with that? Please understand that those that choose to dress a certain way, eat a certain way or vote a certain way is because they wish to. I know lots of LDS members that are Republican, Democrats, Independants, treehuggers, those who don't care about the environment, etc. I applaud religions that stand firm on their beliefs and do not let the world dictate what they should believe. Isn't that your point? And if you knew more about the LDS church, polygamy was banned SO LONG AGO that I don't know why it is even brought up! It is other religions that say they are LDS, but really aren't, that practice polygamy. The church would actually excommunicate you if you had more than one wife. There is no winking or nodding at polygamy. This is NOT in addition to splinter groups. And as far as the "shackles" of the church, anyone wishing their names be removed from the church records may do so. Of course the church would want to know why, wouldn't any decent church worried about your salvation want to know why? Its the shackles of Satan that you should worry about.

    • Posted By: Eternal Happiness @ 07/19/2008 4:03:29 PM

      Dakota, it's a noble thing to make a statement. Unfortunately, you've done yourself and others a disservice by spouting off incorrect information regarding the church. You're writing purely on emotion and disregarding the facts.

  • Posted By: tamm342 @ 07/19/2008 4:26:11 PM

    Give me a freakin break.These guys only have their shirts off.We have all seen men without shirts.If this is the worst thing they ever do be thankful.I think the calendars are very tasteful.I agree that the problem is probably with the 2 gay men and nothing else.If everyone would quit worrying about the little things and start worrying about much bigger things the world probably wouldn't be in the shape it is in.

  • Posted By: bkpkr2@hotmail.com @ 07/19/2008 4:25:59 PM

    Hmmm, just curious what the Catholic church would do if this were a calendar of nuns or priests...? Everyone has standards, and this guy disregarded the standards of his former church when he chose to show a group of people who have sworn off sex and social activities for two years to preach, in poses that could be construed as provocative (if only for the fact they are scantily clad). And for Pete's sake!... all of you who are associating the LDS church with polygamy are simply ignorant- the LDS church has not condoned polygamy for many many years, and the polygamist groups will be the FIRST to tell you that they are in no way associated with the LDS church.

  • Posted By: soupseeds @ 07/19/2008 4:25:35 PM

    It's okay to marry several women, have tons of children in our over populated world, but it's not okay to appear slighly seductive on a calendar. Hmmmm, not consistent, but duly noted.

  • Posted By: soupseeds @ 07/19/2008 4:24:29 PM

    It's okay to marry more than one woman and have tons of kids, but it's not okay to appear slightly seductive on a calendar. Hmmmmm Okay. Not very consistent but at least now the world "gets it"

  • Posted By: jennhild1 @ 07/19/2008 4:24:08 PM

    I would like to point out that those people who practice plural marriage are not members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In a Manifesto in October of 1890 the President of the Church made it very clear that members of the church were abiding by the laws concerning plural marriage set forth by Congress. I do not wish to offend any person that practices plural marriage because they have not been taught the way I have.

    I would also like to say that despite Mr. Hardy's intention to portray the LDS population as modern and not strange like many view us, I feel that this calendar is not an appropriate way to do it. True you're not seeing anything that you wouldn't see at a church pool party, but it is not the way the Lord would promote the church. Our bodies are sacred, and therefore should not be flaunted in this way next to pictures of these young men on their missions. I have many friends currently on missions, and I know they would want to be invited in to share the message of the gospel because of the Spirit they carry with them...not because of a promiscuous calendar someone was curious about.

    Although many people think the church restrains people and controls what they do, this is not true. We are all free to choose what we do, and we are given council to help us live in a way so that we can return to live with our Heavenly Father. Everyone knows that all actions have consequences, I just like to think of the eternal consequences in addition to mortal ones. It is my decision to live my life how I want to live it. By following the teachings of the Lord I am happy and as free as I could ever be. It is because of my agency that I am free.

  • Posted By: tha8 @ 07/19/2008 4:17:46 PM

    Comment: This whole issue is crap! Such hypocrosy! Oh, the church has a problem with these young, handsome men having their pictures taken with their 'shirts off' (heaven help them) because they didn't abide by their rules of modesty and sexual conservatism... On the other hand, it's perfectly OK for them to go back home to Utah (The Promised Land) and marry 6 wives and procreate to the high heavens because THAT'S more in line with their teachings and beliefs!! Give me a break! They certainly aren't modest while they're impregnating multiple partners... They're certainly being seen with more than their shirts off to make that happen! No, the real problem here is the church didn't want any gay men (gasp) or single women to view their young men as sexual objects because that's reserved for MORMONS only!!! Ridiculous!! Call it whatever you want... it's ridiculous... I can't wait for the "self-love" videos to come out... Now, THAT would be something to talk about!

    • Posted By: Jubilee12 @ 07/19/2008 4:22:24 PM

      Hey, tha8, you don't need to keep posting the same comment. It's an OK comment, OK? We read it already like three times. Write something new, who's you're favorite in the 'o8 edition? (snicker-giggle)

  • Posted By: Revart @ 07/19/2008 4:21:24 PM

    There are a lot of people lying about LDS beliefs and practices here on these comments. I am LDS. If you want to know the truth about what we believe and practice visit mormon.org or lds.org Then read it , ponder it and then ask God if it is true. You have to ask having faith that he will answer you. The Holy Spirit will tell you the truth of all things. Reading misinformed people's comments will tell you nothing about the LDS church except their opinion.

  • Posted By: firedriver @ 07/19/2008 4:20:18 PM

    There were other things discussed in the meeting concerning the excommunication. There is more to this story than can be discussed in public. The calendar maker clearly did not want to "break stereotypes" of those in the LDS faith. He simply wanted to create controversy for the LDS church and make an easy buck at the same time. The men who "volunteered" for the calendar photos also did so at the expense of offending the many members of the LDS church who firmly believe that our bodies should not be exposed for the benefit of others. Also, nobody would have been notified of any church discipline involved with this man. He clearly wants the world to know how "unfair" he is being treated by the LDS church. The funny thing is that he is the one drawing all the attention to it so that he can sell more calendars.

  • Posted By: lilbiddy104022 @ 07/19/2008 3:46:32 PM

    tha8 you have no idea what you're talking about. It's so sad to see that there are still people out there who talk on and on about subjects they clearly have no idea about. You are obviously very naive The Mormon church banned polygamy a very long time ago and have distincly made that known. So get your facts straight before you bash on a religion you clearly know nothing about! The mormon church has always been VERY kind to my family...

    • Posted By: tha8 @ 07/19/2008 4:02:17 PM

      Enter Your Commentlilbiddy104022... LOL... You made me laugh... By the way, I'll post my original comments several more times, as you did, to ensure just as many people read mine as yours... I know more than you think about the Mormon faith and their ideals... Although I am NOT one, I have several friends and their families who are. My comments were meant more to 'stir the pot' because the whole issue is still ridiculous to me and will continue to be so. Why do the rights of "the Church" supercede the rights of the individuals who make up that church? Why can't handsome young men take a picture without their shirts on without it being a poor reflection on "the church"??? Why does it have to be "offensive" at all??? Good grief... It's not like they were nude... showing erect genitals or something... I repeat, give me a break!!! Oh, and I know all about when the LDS banned polygamy.... Thanks.... You just HATE that I brought it up... You can't hide from your past, babe... NOR your present... and today, your religion is just as self-righteous as it ever was... I'm sure you'll post more on the subject but I'm done! I'm bored with it... Oh, but I better get my order in on the new calendar before they are all sold out! Mmmmm....

      • Posted By: inthemiddleoftheroad @ 07/19/2008 4:14:37 PM

        You totally miss the point tha8. The rights of the Church do NOT supercede the rights of the individual. Its just like in society - if you murder some, you COULD get the penalty. If you choose to not follow the church guidelines, you COULD be excommunicated. Why do you take such offense to that? This young man could have realized that he shouldn't have associated the LDS church with such a calendar. It wasn't his right to do so. I bet if he had just left off the pictures of the guys when they were on missions and had done a biography for each one, it would have had different results.

  • Posted By: the0ne76 @ 07/19/2008 4:12:47 PM

    PITTY YOU GUYS FOR JUDGING TOO MUCH OF THOSE LDS.... jesus still love you guys

  • Posted By: Revart @ 07/19/2008 4:10:40 PM

    There are a lot of people lying here on these comments. I am LDS. If you want to know the truth about what we believe and practice visit mormon.org or lds.org Then read it , ponder it and then ask God if it is true. You have to ask having faith that he will answer you. Reading misinformed people comments will tell you nothing about our church except their opinion.

  • Posted By: the0ne76 @ 07/19/2008 4:06:59 PM

    You guys are really funny making a big deal of this guy posing T-SHRITLESS ((LOL)), how about those priest that mollested some child, how about those otherreligion who did worst thing why not judge them too??? and make fun of then

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