Mormon Beefcake

The Magical Underwear has symbols stitched into certain areas of the garments ripped off from Free Masonry. The Magical Underwear is nothing more than a symbol of obedience and lack of free will.

Learn to spell before you type!

I believe he was excommunicated more for refusing to stop publishing it than for having published it the first time.

Maybe you forgot to read a section of the article than.
"Hardy was a sixth-generation Mormon who some six years ago stopped attending church, tithing or wearing the requisite sacred undergarments, but he insisted he still admires the church and wanted to use the calendar a form of outreach. "I have my own feelings about the church; they're personal," he said." I'm rather certain we can say we don't know everything thats going on, but the fact that it's been six years since he's been a part of the church, I'd say that he probably has no plans to come back and this action was taken based on his actions for the last 6 years. You're assuming that all the men in these pictures are in the same exact situation which they may not be.

When i was newly baptized, I also had a lot of questions. I would ask other church members. Sometimes I would be condescended toward, as I weren't smart enough to understand. Sometimes I would be told insufficient information, because they didn't think that I really cared that much. Sometimes I was given incorrect information, because they didn't really know but they didn't want to sound stupid. Sometimes I was told the truth, but didn't understand it. Sometimes, I was given the truth, and I understood it, and it changed me. Questions are good, some answers are better than others.

This question, in some form, must come up in the life of every Christian: If God says do X, why is Christian Y not doing X?

Sometimes there are good reasons. Sometimes the questioner does not yet fully understand X. Sometimes God has given special instructions to person Y (Abraham sacrificing Isaac, for example). But, at least for most that I have seen, it was more often that Y is the one that does not understand X.

My wife likes Marie Osmond. I have never met her. I hope that she understands and respect the importance of wearing garments, but I have no proof of that. I don't even know if she has been to the temple. While it is within the realm of possibility that she has received special instruction from God about the garment, I find that the least likely possibility. Thankfully, I don't need to find out which it is.

I do not belong to the Church of Marie Osmond, nor that of any other famous Mormon. If they all stopped wearing garments, it wouldn't change how I felt about the promises I have made. And even if some of these famous people got my tithing money, I wouldn't stop tithing, because I would still be obeying God's commandment.

But, if you need to find out why, don't let me stop you. Ask someone else. Ask someone who has worked in the temple. Ask someone older. Ask others your age. Ask Ms. Osmond herself. And then you can decide whether her actions should be an example to you or not. But please, don't be a blind follower of Ms. Osmond, or anyone else.

You already decided to be a follower of Christ. There must have been some reason. My suggestion is to hold on to that reason, and find more. Though I know it is difficult, worry less about what Christian Y may or may not be doing, and more on what Jesus Christ is doing. Your own actions will fall into place accordingly.

I do not condemn you for asking the question. Just make sure that you act on the correct answer.

Good heavens...garments are a sacred thing. They represent a covenant made between that person and the Lord. Because of their sacredness she removed them so as to not make a public spectacle of them on national television. It has nothing to do with the "almghty dollar." The money from tithes doesn't go to the leaders of the church for their payment but rather is used in the construction of new church buildings, temples, and to furhter the work of the Lord throughout the world. I serisouly hope that your faith has not been shaken over a quesiton such as this.

I love how you complain about "censorship" like the church stopped him from producing the calender...... What did the church censor? If you said the N----- word on the radio you lose your job, sometimes you have to accept the effects of YOUR decisions. besides, I am sure the calendar is one of MANY things this guy did to get himself excommunicated

First of all you are requiring that I accept the BOM - - which I don't. I only go by the Bible, God's Holy word. 2nd of all, Faith without works means that I'm not honoring Christ with His gift of salvation. Works will not get me into heaven. Only through the blood of Christ will I be allowed into His one and only Heaven.
It's been nice chatting with you guys. but I've been told I've been spreading my lies and hatred long enough. It's interesting that you are allowed to claim I'm telling lies but - - well I can't say the same thing? Hmmm. My problem as was semi - stated earlier- in not a problem with the LDS person, but with the teachings of the LDS that do not align with the teachings of Christ. If you really want to learn more, get a study book that helps explain the Bible, and not a mormon book. Get a book that helps explain the Hebrew language and your eyes will be opened. I have a BOM. Yep! Have you taken the time to search for truth outside the mormon realm? I know where my future lies. I am not worried. If I died tomorrow, I'm secure in the fact that I will be in heaven. It's an awesome feeling. I don't have to worry if I've lived a good enough life. That's not possible. I just know that I live to praise and honor God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, the Trinity, Three in One. He just wants a relationship with me. Thanks for taking the time to read this and I just pray that one day, - - - -

I KNOW you are not comparing a missionary to a nun...I must have read that wrong...

Dear Friend, I know how this must sound (What you would expect from a religious fanatic) but the answer to all our problems to put our trust in God. I have never had to quit smoking, but I was once in debt so far that I felt I was lost. I put my problem to God in prayer and then watched for inspiration. I was inspired to search the paper and saw 2 opportunities - a fireworks stand and a salmon store. Under his guidance (busniness can be risky) I made a lot of money and today I am debt free..

"do not inter[r]upt people going on with their daily lives"

I don't recall seeing that passage in any bible I have read. As a matter of fact, a few contradictory ones come to mind, like the following...

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, bot a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and daughter in law against her mother in law." Matthew 10:34-35

"And thou shalt teach them ordinances and laws, and shalt shew them the way wherein they must walk, and the work that they must do." Exodus 18:20

"And thou, Ezra, after the wisdom of they God, that is in thine hand, set magistrates and judges, which may judge all the people that are beyond the river, all such as know the laws of they God; and teach ye them that know them not." Ezra 7:25

"So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou doest not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand." Exekiel 33:7-8

Then again, I am using the "Mormon Bible" (King James Version). Maybe your bible teaches a different Gospel?
Seriously, though, any bible believing people I know of believe it is not just their duty, but their obligation to go to people who don't believe as they do, and save them. Live and let live is not a scriptural principle.

because so many asian (mostly korean and japanese) women go to SLC to study, the plastic surgery rate in that region is considerably higher.

I realize that all history texts are really just someone's opinion on history, but most of the textbooks that I have seen say that the only reason we have all the Greek texts is because of the Muslims... am I wrong?

When I read some of the Greek texts (translated of course, and I have read admittedly few), those Greeks seem to be much more religious than 'the West' today... am I wrong?

I suppose as a Latter-Day Saint I should be defending my own religion against others, but as someone that had a difficult time 'finding' religion previously, I try to defend all earnest religious belief, good or bad, whether polytheistic or atheistic. However, I do find some of your wording interesting. While some might assume that your last statement might be profane, I choose to believe that you are using it correctly: that the rise of the 'Universal' (translation of Catholic from greek) church sadly did coincide with a loss of some doctrines that Christ taught, and through no fault of their own, many members began to fall into a state of spiritual stagnation, where no progression could take place. I do believe that many good people did all they could, but they were unable to progress, or, in other words, their progress was 'damned'. Thank goodness that God gave us a Restoration, and priesthood and doctrines were restored again, right?

I have only been in 4 temples, but I don't recall seeing any Berber carpet. Maybe you were in someone else's temple... ???

No, seriously, I understand what you are trying to get at, and it is possible that the (Hawaiian?) temple you saw had Berber carpet. I think it wears better than the plush that I have seen. Which gets to the real point... God wants people to come to His House. He is a wonderful host... The Lord of Hosts, as a matter of fact (I hope my puns are amusing). As a missionary, I was told that they whole reason for me to teach and/or baptize people would be for them to come to the temple, and make temple covenants. Since those covenants have strengthened me and made me happier, it made sense to me. And, since we have been commanded to take His Gospel to the whole world, if we achieve that goal, we will need some very well wearing carpet.

Bathroom tile, I know little about, just that the tile in Louisville is very difficult to clean. Maybe the Italian version cleans up easier?

PS, if Jesus had worked for Microsoft he probably would have LOVED his Mum to have a velvet cloak and a glorious chandelier- he was only poor cuz he had to be! Jesus said to give to others, he didn't say anything about doing without yourself- that was Lenin and Stalin.

Hey, check out the churches built in starving Ireland when MY people were dying by the roadside, or suffocating in the emigration ships! The "Holy Mother Church" never contributed a dime to the people, it was protestant landowners who tried to alleviate the starvation, though I hate to admit that, as a child Irish freedom fighters- money for the LDS temple is tithed and given freely, not demanded and taken off the backs of the people, or out of the outh of the children!