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Obama Abroad

He's been called a naive idealist. But in terms of foreign policy, he's the true realist in the race.

By Fareed Zakaria | NEWSWEEK
Published Jul 19, 2008
From the magazine issue dated Jul 28, 2008

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  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/11/2008 6:53:19 PM

    Comment: Are any of you chicken hearted chicken hawk repug mccainites/bra burning clintonites ever gonna step up and answer or just do the ROVE thing avoid and redirect?

    I ask a repug "why is the sky blue?" Repug says "well grass is green." I ask why is water wet?" repug says "dirt is brown and grass grows in dirt so Obama is a Muslim"...lol


    Here lets ask a question and see if a repug can answer with out saying the words Democrats, Obama or Clinton:

    Q: Which American President ignored intelligence that could have prevented the 9/11 attacks, then LEFT AFGHANISTAN for Iraq (a country that has never attacked the US) Says he NEVER even thinks about those who attacked us, "I don't even worry about bin laden"...he says
    Sub question: which American Senator has supported nearly ALL of said Presidents policies on the WAR as proven by his record of voting with the "President" 90% of the time?

    A: have at it

  • Posted By: rawilliams11 @ 08/08/2008 12:40:34 PM

    Comment: By making this article.... Zakaria is presuming that political realism is the answer.

    But is it?

    http://the19thhole.wordpress.com/
    http://the19thhole.wordpress.com/

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/05/2008 5:27:57 PM

    Comment: Hey DavHerpe, that 15 times now you've been asked to answer a question instead you cower, and plead for others to come to your aid. I see you're having your "??????" issue again.

    This was my favorite line of all.....

    "Your comments will be considered!"...davole

    Typical rightwinger, thinks he has authority...LMAO

    Just answer the question, here I simplify it for you...

    The problem for McCain is his "Judgment", if he really had superior military insight, he would have never agreed to go to Iraq until Afghanistan was "mission accomplished". If mccain would have wanted to defeat Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, where they make base and train, if he would have wanted to actually bring BIN LADEN to justice, if MCCAIN has TRUE judgment, he would have stood on the floor of the Senate and said "WRONG WAR< WRONG TIME!" We would have "WON" in Afghanistan, instead of "cutting" our ability to supply more troops and "running" to Iraq, for a "WAR FOR OIL" and for the bush ego.

    If McCain had done that, there would not have been a "SURGE" required, AT ALL. thousands of Iraqis and hundreds od Americans would have been saved...but NOPE! McCain and BUSH wanted to go to a country that NEVER ATTACKED THE US, and star another war, and now MCCAIN AND BUSH want to go "bomb Iran, bomb bomb Iran". before AFGANISTAN or Iraq are clear...and you call that a "military mentality", you call that "Judgment"?

    Give it a shot, try one thought of your own in an intelligent response to this statement/question...I believe in you dav, you can do it ;)


  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/05/2008 5:15:21 PM

    Comment: McCain adopts another Obama campaign slogan..."Are you better off now than you were 4yrs ago?"...Obama has been saying it since the primaries. Now, mccain DESPERATE to seperate himslef form bush, though he has voted with bush 90% of the time, is using the EXACT same line...John, DESPERATION is a stinky perfume.

  • Posted By: divinely speaking @ 08/05/2008 11:38:04 AM

    Comment: My Dear Friend Fareed, he sees Pakistan as a major trouble spot, a country run by rogues in the ISI and Pakistani military. I wonder why you did not mention it.

  • Posted By: fishbite100 @ 08/03/2008 2:15:59 AM

    Comment: Hypothetical: A guy like Bush got elected twice on FEAR platform. Israelis likes Republicans because of Gun totting foreign policy which is fighting their wars on proxy basis at the cost of US economy and lives. Maybe Israelis will attack Iran before the election and drag US into a unwanted war and push the FEAR factor in, so that McCain can win on this platform !!

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/03/2008 4:56:38 PM

      Comment: fishbite100 -

      Practical: And then. maybe they won't!

      • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/03/2008 7:06:15 PM

        Comment: Hey DavHerpe, you're welcome for teh advice on puncuation and teh question mark issue you were having. Se wwe Obama supporters always try to help :) Even someone as lost as you.

        • Posted By: Davole @ 08/03/2008 10:13:32 PM

          Comment: hardlyhere -

          No, it's evident that you're the lost one - case in point,your partial statement - "teh advice on puncuation and teh" ... wow - 3 spelling errors in a 6 word expression - bingo - you win the prize - free tuition for grade 1. Better luck this time - now study hard!

          • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/05/2008 5:14:01 PM

            Comment: Like I've said I don't babysit my eagerness with WORD and end up my more qurestion marks than words on my posts. this makes 14 times you have avoided the question??????????????????? feel better

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 11:26:31 PM

    Comment: Yet another pasted article, and still noanswer awe, you can't do it can you, you can't answer, becausse when you try to finnd a answer to cut and paste, you can't, or don't want to admit what is said...GOTCHA!

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/03/2008 1:48:32 PM

      Comment: hardlyhere -

      Your juvenile exhausted plethora of unsubstantiated rants demonstrates that you're incapable of actually engaging in intelligent, original thought, meaningful, and respectful discussion, let alone understanding anyone???s comments to you - rant answered.

      • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/03/2008 7:04:14 PM

        Comment: Yet another paste, and what are we up to now DavHerpe...I thik that would be 10 times you'ev been asked and have NOT answered the question...keep dodging ;)

  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 10:04:29 PM

    Comment: The Messiah Gets Heckled; Wants Big Oil to Send You $1,000
    Rush Limbaugh.com Aug. O1, 2008

    RUSH: Speaking of The Messiah, he was heckled today.
    The Messiah heckled in St. Petersburg Florida.

    OBAMA: Hold on a second. (heckles) Hold on a second. (booing) That's all right. That's right, all right. Listen. Excuse me. (shouting) Hey. Hold on a second. (chanting) Hold on, everybody. Excuse me, young man. This is going to be a question-and-answer session, so you can ask a question later. Let me make my statement. (applause) Why don't you all sit down. Then you can ask a question. That's all -- sit down. You'll -- you'll have -- you'll have a chance to answer your question, but you don't want to disrupt the whole meeting. Just be courteous, that's all. All you gotta do is be courteous. That's all. Just be courteous and you'll have a chance to make a statement. Just relax. That's all. Just relax. You'll have a chance. All right. Where was I, and what was I talking about?

    RUSH: Well, they succeeded in heckling The Messiah. They unfurled large banners there that said: "What about the black community, Obama?" And he was clearly shouted down. This is something that we haven't seen before on the campaign, ladies and gentlemen, and that is The Messiah being heckled. In addition to that, I saw this this morning, and I was just blown away. Obama wants another stimulus check sent to every American. He wants the check to be in the amount of $1,000. And do you know who he wants to be responsible for paying for this? Big Oil. Oh my God, is right. Democrat presidential candidate, the Lord Barack Obama, The Messiah.

    RUSH: Seriously, Obama wants a new windfall profits tax on Big Oil because of these huge profits that they announced yesterday and another $1,000 stimulus check to every American that qualifies (which would be most, certainly not me) paid for from this windfall profits tax. This is idiotic. Once again it's pure pandering and pure populism and these guys can't figure out who their villain is going to be. When oil was approaching $150 a barrel, of course the evil villains are the spectators. Now it's back to Big Oil. Even the Los Angeles Times today got it right in an editorial: Nearly 50% of those profits reported by Big Oil are taxable.

  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 9:58:00 PM

    Comment: Continued - The Messiah Gets Heckled; Wants Big Oil to Send You $1,000

    That means federal taxation on the Big Oil profits. So whatever you read -- $11 billion, whatever the number -- half of it already goes to the federal government, and they want a windfall profits tax. There are a lot of things about this whole business of oil that a lot of people do not understand, but I just find it fascinating. Nancy Pelosi and the gang have left town. There is nothing going to be done for five weeks, not a single appropriation bill, nothing on drilling. And it was just four years ago, remember how John Kerry was hounding President Bush to go "jawbone" the Saudis and bring the oil price down? Now, four years later, all they want is for the price to remain high. They want you miserable. They want you suffering.

    RUSH: Looking at the polling data, Obama and McCain are tied now in the daily Gallup tracking poll, 45-44. (interruption) What do you mean, oh, no? You like McCain being ahead? Well, no, he probably is in likely voters. This is just registered. The point is this. Something's happened. The bloom is off the Obama rose.

    The Drive-Bys cannot save him. This whole messiah thing has blown up. I think the trip, the world tour, was a disaster. I'm telling you something, folks, he had a 15-point lead. The American people don't want to vote for a rookie, somebody they don't know who shows up across the pond and starts trashing this country. They would appreciate perhaps even a little thanks from somebody who seeks to be their leader and the president, but I think it's become clear, he's been revealed as nothing more than your average closet variety liberal who perhaps is more dangerous than anybody suspects because of his associations.

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 9:34:03 PM

    Comment: Here ya go Davherpe number 6 for this one also ;)

    Bias? CNN? It's JOHN MCCAIN SPEAKING are you saying John McCain is bias for Obama? I mean given McCain;s recent statements on Iraq and Afghanistan one might say yes ;)

    Here I'll ask you again...(with minor corrections on my spelling mam ;)

    As I said " Don't be fool enough to make me list ALL of the LIES this administration has told to further their WAR FOR OIL... but I'll give you one MAJOR lie..."PAT TILLMAN".
    Q: "where's your proof regarding everything that they said over an 8 year span"...Dilhole
    A: Evidentially under EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, except to day a BUSH appointed Federal Judge, said their claims are "Legally Baseless"...ot oh

    Q:"As to the verification of your assertion that John McCain lied by saying "TIME TABLE" on the CNN Wolf Blitzer show"...Dilhole

    A:"McCains does continually LIE, and say what ever he thinks will get him votes, as recently as him saying "TIME TABLE" to wolf blitzer on CNN only to turn and LIE about it 2 days later stating he NEVER said the WORD "TIME TABLE."

    Here I'll give you this cause it's fun:

    1st he says time table: @ 1:27 sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFVHup5b6Uw

    Next He denies using the word Time Table: @ 1:44sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5o6RhZilM

    Now can you TRY and answer the QUESTION, maybe respond to the TOPIC? hmm...mmmkay?


    TRY AGAIN ';)

    No Question marks this time there DavHerpe

    Gee, I wonder what ENERGY EXPERTS are saying about the McCain proposed "immediate benefits" to offshore drilling...what do the EXPERTS SAY?

    Hey DavHole, I bet you know, but I know you won't copy and paste that answer will...hehehe.

    There that's the 5th time on this question....let's see

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 7:40:44 PM

    Comment: Ok i asked nicely...hehe and you took the bait.

    Ist off I don't have a mom me and my dad use yours...
    and let me tell you speaking of flies, we did not even have to go to a garbage dump, her crotch was covered with them, but then you know that because according to your MOMMY you spend more time there then her own pubic hair does, which by the way I have seen dread locks before but DUDE, she got them down there.

    If you called it hair pie she'd be a bakery...hell a comericial bakeryfor that matter.

    I swear your mom is teh source of MOST if not ALL Bigfoot sightings, just based on her smell,let alone the hair every where, but you'd know that because according to your mommy, you groom her regularly, and oraly like a little cat, or the big pu$$y you are....

    Should I go on...

    Tell what let's get off moms, as I just got off yours...and stck to the topic of unanswered questions, like why you lust for your own mother, or what happened to your daddy?...Oedipus

    Hey your mom say's get your room cleaned up, what's up with all the Obama pics, vasaline, and wadded up tissues...ewe.

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 9:07:32 PM

      Comment: hardlyhere -

      Awe, you're P's "blog hero" - I'm sure that she's really proud of you now!
      I'm just waiting for her to post a reply stating how proud of you she is!

      And I wonder whether S may have discovered the real her - for just like Obama, people judge you by the company you keep.

      And you're a real shining example of a true friend of hers!

      • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 9:36:20 PM

        Comment: Awe DavHerps did'nt like mom jokes, UI tried to warn DavHerpe, but it does'nt read only pastes others articles and calls names...EVER GONNA ANSWER...COWARD?

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 7:30:31 PM

    Comment: Here ya go Davherpe number 5 for this one also ;)

    Bias? CNN? It's JOHN MCCAIN SPEAKING are you saying John McCain is bias for Obama? I mean given McCain;s recent statements on Iraq and Afghanistan one might say yes ;)

    Here I'll ask you again...(with minor corrections on my spelling mam ;)

    As I said " Don't be fool enough to make me list ALL of the LIES this administration has told to further their WAR FOR OIL... but I'll give you one MAJOR lie..."PAT TILLMAN".
    Q: "where's your proof regarding everything that they said over an 8 year span"...Dilhole
    A: Evidentially under EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, except to day a BUSH appointed Federal Judge, said their claims are "Legally Baseless"...ot oh

    Q:"As to the verification of your assertion that John McCain lied by saying "TIME TABLE" on the CNN Wolf Blitzer show"...Dilhole

    A:"McCains does continually LIE, and say what ever he thinks will get him votes, as recently as him saying "TIME TABLE" to wolf blitzer on CNN only to turn and LIE about it 2 days later stating he NEVER said the WORD "TIME TABLE."

    Here I'll give you this cause it's fun:

    1st he says time table: @ 1:27 sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFVHup5b6Uw

    Next He denies using the word Time Table: @ 1:44sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5o6RhZilM

    Now can you TRY and answer the QUESTION, maybe respond to the TOPIC? hmm...mmmkay?


    TRY AGAIN ';)

    No Question marks this time there DavHerpe

    Gee, I wonder what ENERGY EXPERTS are saying about the McCain proposed "immediate benefits" to offshore drilling...what do the EXPERTS SAY?

    Hey DavHole, I bet you know, but I know you won't copy and paste that answer will...hehehe.

    There that's the 4th time on this question....let's see

  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 7:03:17 PM

    Comment: Bush rips Democrats for opposing offshore drilling
    MyWay By H. Josef Hebert Aug. 02, 2008

    WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush chastised Democrats on Saturday for refusing to allow a vote on whether to lift the federal ban on offshore oil drilling before lawmakers departed for their summer recess.

    "To reduce pressure on prices, we need to increase the supply of oil, especially oil produced here at home," Bush said in his weekly radio address. It was the fourth time this week that he has called for Congress to end the drilling restrictions off the Atlantic and Pacific coasts and in the eastern Gulf of Mexico.

    Some of the drilling moratoriums have been in place since 1981 for environmental reasons and concerns that energy development might harm coastal tourist industries.

    Bush acknowledged it would be years before any of the oil beneath the offshore waters could be pumped, but he said "lifting the ban would create new opportunities for American workers and businessmen."

    "But the leaders of the Democratic Congress have refused to allow a vote" on whether the drilling moratoriums should be lifted, Bush complained.


    My Commentary:

    If, as the Democrats maintain, that approval for exploration and drilling in offshore locations would not affect the price of oil, and would not increase the supply of oil for several years (often touted as the magic number 10 years), why not grant approval now to test that theory, and provide several thousands of well-paying jobs to stimulate the economy?

    Do Democrats actually fear that their rigid assertions would be proven to be false?

  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 6:04:44 PM

    Comment: Democrats anxious for Obama to widen lead
    FT.com Financial Times
    By Edward Luce in Washington August 1 2008

    In 1980, Ronald Reagan asked voters whether they felt better off than four years earlier. He went on to defeat Jimmy Carter a few weeks later. On Friday Barack Obama raised the same question: ???Do you think that you are better off now than you were four years ago or eight years ago???? he asked voters in Florida. ???And if you don???t . . . do you think you can afford another four years of the same failed economic policies that we???ve had under George W. Bush????

    With unemployment on Friday jumping by 51,000 to take this year???s job losses to almost half a million, Mr Obama is mining a potentially rich seam. But a number of Democrats, including advisers to the Obama campaign, are worried that the Democratic party???s overall electoral advantage this year has not yet translated into comfortable leads for Mr Obama. On Friday Gallup showed Mr Obama just one point ahead of John McCain ??? a significant tightening in the past two weeks

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 5:54:12 PM

    Comment: Here ya go Davherpe number 4 for this one also ;)

    Bias? CNN? It's JOHN MCCAIN SPEAKING are you saying John McCain is bias for Obama? I mean given McCain;s recent statements on Iraq and Afghanistan one might say yes ;)

    Here I'll ask you again...(with minor corrections on my spelling mam ;)

    As I said " Don't be fool enough to make me list ALL of the LIES this administration has told to further their WAR FOR OIL... but I'll give you one MAJOR lie..."PAT TILLMAN".
    Q: "where's your proof regarding everything that they said over an 8 year span"...Dilhole
    A: Evidentially under EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, except to day a BUSH appointed Federal Judge, said their claims are "Legally Baseless"...ot oh

    Q:"As to the verification of your assertion that John McCain lied by saying "TIME TABLE" on the CNN Wolf Blitzer show"...Dilhole

    A:"McCains does continually LIE, and say what ever he thinks will get him votes, as recently as him saying "TIME TABLE" to wolf blitzer on CNN only to turn and LIE about it 2 days later stating he NEVER said the WORD "TIME TABLE."

    Here I'll give you this cause it's fun:

    1st he says time table: @ 1:27 sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFVHup5b6Uw

    Next He denies using the word Time Table: @ 1:44sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5o6RhZilM

    Now can you TRY and answer the QUESTION, maybe respond to the TOPIC? hmm...mmmkay?


    TRY AGAIN ';)

    No Question marks this time there DavHerpe

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 6:26:26 PM

      Comment: hardlyhere -

      As you and all other bloggers and viewers on this political website can see, you do not, and cannot intimidate me!

      It's getting close to your bedtime - so scamper off to bed, and ask your mommy to read to you my replies to most of your rants which you posted yesterday and today.

      And then do put on your aluminum foil thinking hat, pull it down tight, and really concentrate on trying to provide at least one reply that has a semblance of rationality and normalcy.

      So far, you appear to be unwilling to answer my question regarding how many screen names you have had for this site, and why you need to keep changing them.

      Would the reason be that most intelligent bloggers on this site have dismissed you long ago as an intellectually-challenged juvenile ranter?

      Maybe if you pout long enough, your mommy will tell you another fly joke or two.

      • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 9:46:06 PM

        Comment: hardleyhere -

        There is no need now for you to answer my question regarding why your screen name has changed so frequently - it's probably due to your immature,abusive, profanity-laced, harassment resulting in you being banished from this website..

      • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 7:45:42 PM

        Comment: I see you took my advice on the question mark/puncuation issue, you're welcome ;)

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 5:01:43 PM

    Comment: John McCain could'nt attract a crowd of 200,000 if he covered himself in SH!T and counted the flies...ROFLMAO!!!! - My Mom wrote that one, way to go Mom ;) Gotta love it!

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 5:36:17 PM

      Comment: hardlyhere -

      Medic! ... Medic! ... Emergency! ... Emergency!
      Or on second thought - cancel that call!

      It???s just a little boy hyperventilating because he can???t get his way.
      Once we extract that thumb from his mouth, he should be OK (or as close to it as he has ever been).

      So, you???ve got a very, very close relationship with your mother - that explains a lot!
      And it sure seems as though it may ???run in the family.???

      Are you admitting that she supplies your talking points for you? That???s interesting.

      After reviewing your pathetic attempt at humour to which you attribute to your mother, it wouldn???t surprise me if her favourite vacation destination is the city dump or a sanitation sewer.

      Many people go to a park to feed the birds and squirrels, but you make it seem as though she goes to her preferred spot to feed the flies. Very interesting!

      Time out!
      Maybe it might be worth while for you to take a ride on your bicycle - or better still, use your tricycle, since you do seem to be quite unsteady now.

      If you???re good (or bad, depending on what your mother admires), maybe she???ll even let you stay up until 7:00 p.m. tonight.

      • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 6:02:37 PM

        Comment: Awe are you trying to tell us that you're mommy does'nt love you? Is that wh'y you're so angry and so quick to attack my mother? Do you really want to go there with me? Maybe that explains the questions marks, you're doubting your own sexuality and desires for your mom....interesting

        Say what you will Oedipus, but you STILL have NOT answered my question...so here it is again ;)

        See that's why I stopped using WORD to type in for the spell check and just live with the errors, I hated correcting the puncuation on everything I wrote to get rid of the question marks, BTW that's how you get rid of them you have to re-do your puncuation here...Try it when you answer my question lol ;)

        • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 6:05:35 PM

          Comment: Gee, I wonder what ENERGY EXPERTS are saying about the McCain proposed "immediate benefits" to offshore drilling...what do the EXPERTS SAY?

          Hey DavHole, I bet you know, but I know you won't copy and paste that answer will...hehehe.

          There that's the 3rd time on this question....let's see

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 4:58:55 PM

    Comment: Here ya go Davherpe number 3 for this one also ;) (techincally at least number five or six as I have made SEVERAL references to you NOT answering)

    Bias? CNN? It's JOHN MCCAIN SPEAKING are you saying John McCain is bias for Obama? I mean given McCain;s recent statements on Iraq and Afghanistan one might say yes ;)

    Here I'll ask you again...(with minor corrections on my spelling mam ;)

    As I said " Don't be fool enough to make me list ALL of the LIES this administration has told to further their WAR FOR OIL... but I'll give you one MAJOR lie..."PAT TILLMAN".
    Q: "where's your proof regarding everything that they said over an 8 year span"...Dilhole
    A: Evidentially under EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, except to day a BUSH appointed Federal Judge, said their claims are "Legally Baseless"...ot oh

    Q:"As to the verification of your assertion that John McCain lied by saying "TIME TABLE" on the CNN Wolf Blitzer show"...Dilhole

    A:"McCains does continually LIE, and say what ever he thinks will get him votes, as recently as him saying "TIME TABLE" to wolf blitzer on CNN only to turn and LIE about it 2 days later stating he NEVER said the WORD "TIME TABLE."

    Here I'll give you this cause it's fun:

    1st he says time table: @ 1:27 sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFVHup5b6Uw

    Next He denies using the word Time Table: @ 1:44sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5o6RhZilM

    Now can you TRY and answer the QUESTION, maybe respond to the TOPIC? hmm...mmmkay?


    TRY AGAIN ';)

    No Question marks this time there DavHerpe

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 4:11:08 PM

    Comment: John McCain could'nt attract a crowd of 200,000 if he covered himself in SH!T and counted the flies...ROFLMAO!!!! - My Mom wrote that one, way to go Mom ;) Gotta love it!

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 5:17:11 PM

      Comment: hardlyhere -

      Medic! ... Medic! ... Emergency! ... Emergency!
      Or on second thought - cancel that call!

      It???s just a little boy hyperventilating because he can???t get his way.
      Once we extract that thumb from his mouth, he should be OK (or as close to it as he has ever been).

      So, you???ve got a very, very close relationship with your mother - that explains a lot!
      And it sure seems as though it may ???run in the family.???

      Are you admitting that she supplies your talking points for you? That???s interesting.

      After reviewing your pathetic attempt at humour to which you attribute to your mother, it wouldn???t surprise me if her favourite vacation destination is the city dump or a sanitation sewer.

      Many people go to a park to feed the birds and squirrels, but you make it seem as though she goes to her preferred spot to feed the flies. Very interesting!

      Time out!
      Maybe it might be worth while for you to take a ride on your bicycle - or better still, use your tricycle, since you do seem to be quite unsteady now.

      If you???re good (or bad, depending on what your mother admires), maybe she???ll even let you stay up until 7:00 p.m. tonight.

  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 3:56:43 PM

    Comment: Obama risks voter ire by opposing new oil drilling
    PalmBeachPost.com Aug. 01, 2008
    By MIKE GLOVER Associated Press Writer

    ROLLA, Mo. ??? Barack Obama is once again betting that his eloquence can persuade price-weary consumers ??? read that as voters ??? to take the long view and not jump at a short-term fix when it comes to soaring energy prices.

    It worked in his presidential primary contest against New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton when she proposed a "gas tax holiday" for the summer, a pitch he opposed despite its popularity with many voters. But that was in April before gasoline shot past $4 a gallon.

    Virtually all polls now show dealing with energy prices high atop the agenda of voters.
    At issue for Obama's Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain, is opening up offshore drilling to boost production, a move McCain and others GOP lawmakers say would increase supply and help control soaring gasoline prices. Opponents, including Obama and many other Democrats, say new offshore oil would be years away from reaching consumers and even then would make little difference in prices and the ongoing U.S. need for foreign oil.

    Republicans clearly have targeted energy prices, looking to boost their standing with consumers. President Bush has pushed Congress to permit the offshore drilling and warned that "the American people are rightly frustrated" because Democrats won't allow a vote on opening up offshore drilling.

    For his part, McCain has his sights squarely on Obama's opposition to offshore drilling, labeling him "Dr. No when it comes to energy production." The tactic is not surprising, because polls have shown that consumers ??? even in environmentally sensitive states like Florida ??? are desperate for politicians to do something about energy and favor offshore drilling by big margins.

    Obama is pressed on the issue repeatedly on the campaign trail, but he refuses to budge, preferring to take pains to spell out his reasons.

  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 3:50:19 PM

    Comment: hardlyhere -

    Your juvenile exhausted plethora of unsubstantiated rants demonstrates that you're incapable of actually engaging in intelligent, original thought, meaningful, and respectful discussion, let alone understanding anyone???s comments to you - rant answered.

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 3:25:22 PM

    Comment: Here ya go Davherpe number two for this one also ;) (techincally at least number five or six as I have made SEVERAL references to you NOT answering)

    Bias? CNN? It's JOHN MCCAIN SPEAKING are you saying John McCain is bias for Obama? I mean given McCain;s recent statements on Iraq and Afghanistan one might say yes ;)

    Here I'll ask you again...(with minor corrections on my spelling mam ;)

    As I said " Don't be fool enough to make me list ALL of the LIES this administration has told to further their WAR FOR OIL... but I'll give you one MAJOR lie..."PAT TILLMAN".
    Q: "where's your proof regarding everything that they said over an 8 year span"...Dilhole
    A: Evidentially under EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, except to day a BUSH appointed Federal Judge, said their claims are "Legally Baseless"...ot oh

    Q:"As to the verification of your assertion that John McCain lied by saying "TIME TABLE" on the CNN Wolf Blitzer show"...Dilhole

    A:"McCains does continually LIE, and say what ever he thinks will get him votes, as recently as him saying "TIME TABLE" to wolf blitzer on CNN only to turn and LIE about it 2 days later stating he NEVER said the WORD "TIME TABLE."

    Here I'll give you this cause it's fun:

    1st he says time table: @ 1:27 sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFVHup5b6Uw

    Next He denies using the word Time Table: @ 1:44sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5o6RhZilM

    Now can you TRY and answer the QUESTION, maybe respond to the TOPIC? hmm...mmmkay?


    TRY AGAIN ';)

    No Question marks this time there DavHerpe

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 3:21:45 PM

    Comment: Hey Pia let's see how many times I have to ask DavHerpe the SAME QUESTION b4 he actually responds.

    Gee, I wonder what ENERGY EXPERTS are saying about the McCain proposed "immediate benefits" to offshore drilling...what do the EXPERTS SAY?

    Hey DavHole, I bet you know, but I know you won't copy and paste that answer will...hehehe.

    There that's the second time on this question....let's see

    Hey DavHerpe for me it may be spelling, but for you it's puncuation:
    You???re
    ???bussiness.???
    blogger???s
    ???You are our blog hero.???
    ???gist???
    ???I actually
    ???It???s politics.???
    There are so many, what are you the Riddler?

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 5:43:41 PM

      Comment: hardlyhere -

      Are you trying to hide behind her skirt now? Pathetic, but somewhat reasonable!

      After all, she has stated that you are her blog hero.

      You can run, ... but you cannot hide!

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 08/02/2008 12:42:51 PM

    Comment: This Oil will go to Market and Bring Back, whatever the market Bares and we'll still have High Prices to Contend with...Simple and Plain

    Thats what the Big Oil Corporations and the Mass Media are Withholding from All of You.


    Anyway this offshore Oil Drilling is a Farce....


    Big Oil Corporations have 38 Million Offshore Oil Land Leases and they hav'nt begun to Drill on these Already Aquired Lands and Big Oil also has 68 Million Land leases to Drill for Oil....


    Yet the Money Hungry Whores want More Land....


    What next, an Oil Field in Every Shore, City and State....


    If Big Oil Gets its way, Imminent Domain will be in "Full Effect"


    Your Neighborhood will be Next !!!


    Drill all You want, the Oil is Going to Market and it will Bring, what the Market Bares and America will in all liklihood, will See no Any Substantial Decrease at the Pump.


    Most of our Oil Comes from (Canada) the Upper North...


    Not Saudia Arabia !!


    Sorry, but Facts are Facts


    It will take quite some Time, to See any of this Oil, in any Event.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 08/02/2008 12:41:45 PM

    Comment: Who Voted Against More Offshore Oil Drilling, When then President Jimmy Carter Wanted... More Oil Drilling in the 70's..Hmmm


    Answer: Most of the Senators and Congressmen & Women of Carter's Presidency.



    Who Voted Against Drilling in ANWR in the 80's ?



    Answer: John McCain and Other Senators and Congressmen & Women



    Which Past President(s) Voted Against Drilling in ANWR and more Offshore Lands ?



    Answer: Reagan, Bush Sr and Bill Clinton, along with the Senate and the Congress of their Times and guess What Senator Voted Against Oil Drilling as well, during that Time....



    Senator John McCain....



    McCain Has such a Great Track Record on Oil Independence..Huh




    McCain's 25 Year Senate Record will be EXPOSED in this Offshore Oil Debate....



    McCain was Not Pro Offshore and ANWR Drilling, until...


    NOW in an Election Year !!!



    When he KNOWS that this Oil Drilling Scam and Gas Tax Holiday is a Farce for the Gullible and Simple Minded.

    Prices Will NOT Go DOWN, if this Ban is lifted...They will STILL continue to...CLIMB

    Because the Oil will go to Oil Market and Bare what the Oil Market Demands.
    -------------------------------------------

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 10:01:36 PM

    Comment: Hey Pia,

    I actually googled the word "davole"...it came back as a no longer in bussiness DOUCHEBAG manufacturer

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 2:25:18 PM

      Comment: Yo hardlyhere -

      As usual, you are wrong - I have not left the site.

      I just wanted to see how much juvenile strutting , hi-fiving, butt-kissing, and back-slapping you would do, and I???m not surprised at the visible results based on your various recent croons.

      I noticed your statement - ???I actually googled the word "davole"...it came back as a no longer in bussiness DOUCHEBAG manufacturer

      You???re still having problems with spelling - i.e. ???bussiness.???
      So much for attention to detail.

      Is this, your grand post, emblematic of your abysmal level of futile comedy and humour?
      Vulgarity seems to be your middle name, if not your first.

      What did mildly surprise me was a female blogger???s (name withheld out of respect) reply stating ???You are our blog hero.???
      Somehow she did not consider your crass terminology to be offensive or inappropriate.

      In a way, even if I were an Obama supporter who would agree with the ???gist??? of your post, I would have ???called you out??? for posting such petty-minded gutteral terminology.

      It sure appears as though few if any Obama supporters have any appreciable degree of integrity and respect. I guess that responsibility can be excused by the pitiful excuse which an Obama supporter had previously stated to me - ???It???s politics.???

      This may be a prime example of Barack Obama???s undefined meanings of ???Change and Hope.???

      There appears to be no limit to the depth of depravity to which obamabots will sink!

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/01/2008 11:49:40 PM

      Comment: Hi Harley, I'm here staying up late.
      D actually left? Gosh. It was because of me I suppose. Perhaps I should have ignored him entirely today. I did not say anything mean nor disrespectful to him. I never initiated the posts.
      Thank you for your help, Harley, here is a hug coming to you, ((((Harley)))).

      • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 12:51:21 AM

        Comment: He'll be back, like herpes(which I'm sure he has experience with) he'll be back.

        Funny how he REFUSES to diurectly answer a question huh, that's a total repug thing.

        • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 2:15:50 PM

          Comment: hardlyhere -

          No, I have not had any experience with herpes - I haven't met you, nor do I want to do so!

          I wouldn't be surprised to learn that you are a walking compillation of numerous social diseases, because their symptoms seem to be manifest in most of your posts.

          In reply to your opinion - "Funny how he REFUSES to diurectly (oh, no, not another spelling error) answer a question huh" - why should I answer one of your questions when you are unable to understand the answer?

          And Republicans do realize that many democrats, not all, are confounded by facts and detail, so they decide (if that capability exists for them) to launch a tirade of ad hominem attacks instead, just as you have demonstrated.

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 6:21:52 PM

    Comment: Gee, I wonder what ENERGY EXPERTS are saying about the McCain proposed "immediate benefits" to offshore drilling...what do the EXPERTS SAY?

    Hey DavHole, I bet you know, but I know you won't copy and paste that answer will...hehehe.

    • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 9:56:13 PM

      Comment: See there Pia, a harmless question about ENERGY EXPERTS..and DavHole ignores it and call me names, btw we both know how shook up I am over that...hehehe

      • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 3:37:11 PM

        Comment: hardlyhere -

        Do you have as much trouble simultaneously riding your bicycle and chewing bubblegum, as you do demonstrate typing and thinking?

        You accuse me of calling you names?
        Where have I done that, outside of bringing your screen name closer to reality?

        After reviewing your numerous rants posted yesterday and today, I have noticed you calling me -
        DOUCHEBAG, Douche, THE QUESTION DODGER, MAMMA ladyboy, Idiot, TROLLDavHole, Moron, Punk, Wanna be bully, Troll, and b!tch (note your spelling error).

        So, hopefully even you can appreciate the ridiculous fallacy of your contention.
        You can, can???t you?

        Maybe you should be given prominence in the obamabot mantra by revising it to state - Yes we can, except for our beloved hero hardlyhere!

        And I do notice that ???the lady who doth protest too much,??? in her frequently naive viewpoint, attributes my non-existent name calling toward you as prompted because of her.
        She couldn???t be farther from the truth!
        Yes, for some people it is difficult to pay attention to detail!

        No, I???m directing my rebuttal of your fairyland contentions at you, because you are the one spewing the name-calling which even she refuses to acknowledge, but instead, wants to ???bask in the sunshine of admiration.???

        Lastly, will you be man enough to answer this question - Since you have been blogging on the Newsweek website, what are the different screen names under which you have posted, and why can???t you stick to just one name?

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/02/2008 12:22:05 PM

        Comment: Harley, I'm sorry he called you names. It was because of me.

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 6:19:34 PM

    Comment: There are too many reasons to list of why you're such a douche...

    Bias? CNN? It's JOHN MCCAIN SPEAKING are you saying John McCain is bias for Obama? I mean given McCain;s recent statements on Iraq and Afghanistan one might say yes ;)

    Here I'll ask you again...(with minor corrections on my spelling mam ;)

    As I said " Don't be fool enough to make me list ALL of the LIES this administration has told to further their WAR FOR OIL... but I'll give you one MAJOR lie..."PAT TILLMAN".
    Q: "where's your proof regarding everything that they said over an 8 year span"...Dilhole
    A: Evidentially under EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, except to day a BUSH appointed Federal Judge, said their claims are "Legally Baseless"...ot oh

    Q:"As to the verification of your assertion that John McCain lied by saying "TIME TABLE" on the CNN Wolf Blitzer show"...Dilhole

    A:"McCains does continually LIE, and say what ever he thinks will get him votes, as recently as him saying "TIME TABLE" to wolf blitzer on CNN only to turn and LIE about it 2 days later stating he NEVER said the WORD "TIME TABLE."

    Here I'll give you this cause it's fun:

    1st he says time table: @ 1:27 sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFVHup5b6Uw

    Next He denies using the word Time Table: @ 1:44sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5o6RhZilM

    Now can you TRY and answer the QUESTION, maybe respond to the TOPIC? hmm...mmmkay?

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/01/2008 9:10:48 PM

      Comment: hardlyhere -

      Your exhausted juvenile plethora of unsubstantiated rants demonstrates that you're incapable of actually engaging in intelligent, original thought, meaningful, and respectful discussion - rant disregarded.

      • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 9:53:47 PM

        Comment: Ladies and Gentleman...please welcome...."The Question Dodger" as I expected, you are incapable of answering a question. You again try with DESPERATION suitable for a mccainite, to avoid, redirect and quickly change the TOPIC.

        SO call me all the names you like how ever: Du bist das Kind hier, das Frau Hasser, das mccain Kugel licker, der flase Profit, das liegenarschloch, die Querbehandlung, die wie deine Mamma ladyboy ist.

  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/01/2008 4:54:53 PM

    Comment: Thanks Z, I will do that, that's what Sky suggested I do too. I have been doing that, but the hits keep on coming. I hope with the last post below, they wil l stop.
    Thank you for checking this out.

  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/01/2008 9:38:33 AM

    Comment: Pelosi blocks offshore drilling vote GOP wants
    Zachary Coile, Chronicle Washington Bureau
    Friday, August 1, 2008

    For weeks, pressure has been mounting in Congress to approve more domestic oil drilling, but House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has held the line, using her power to block a vote on offshore drilling.

    President Bush has made almost daily calls for Democratic leaders to take action. House GOP leaders, citing a new poll showing that a slim majority of Californians now favor offshore drilling, issued a release Thursday saying "even (Pelosi's) own California neighbors oppose her efforts to block new drilling far off American coasts." GOP lawmakers are so disgruntled they're urging Bush to deny Congress its August break by calling a special session on energy.

    Some Democrats wary

    Even some Democrats are getting antsy, fearing the party's stance could hurt them in the fall elections. But Pelosi, who has opposed offshore drilling throughout her two decades in Congress, insists opening new areas to drilling won't lower gas prices in the short term. She believes a vote would only help the GOP blame Democrats for high gas prices.

    "I will not ... give the administration an excuse for its failure," Pelosi said at an end-of-session roundtable interview Thursday.

    Republicans have put a bull's-eye on the federal moratorium on coastal drilling, which has kept most of the East and West coasts off limits to new oil rigs since 1982. Bush announced earlier this month that he would lift the presidential moratorium on drilling, and the GOP is now seeking to lift the congressional ban.

    Pelosi drew derision from her critics for telling the Web site Politico this week that she was blocking a vote on offshore drilling because "I'm trying to save the planet." But she elaborated on that theme Thursday, saying she sees energy independence and fighting global warming as "my flagship issue." She said she will use her power to resist a policy that could increase the country's oil dependency.

  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/01/2008 9:34:47 AM

    Comment: Continued - Pelosi blocks offshore drilling vote GOP wants

    "I'm not going to be diverted for a political tactic from a course of action that has a big-picture view - a vision about an energy-independent future that reduces our dependence on fossil fuels ... and focuses on those renewables that are protective of the environment," she said.

    Republicans are quietly gleeful at Pelosi's tactics, which have only breathed more life into an issue the GOP is clinging to as a lifeline in an otherwise grim year for the party. Some House Republicans said Thursday that they will ask Bush to order a special session of Congress in August if lawmakers adjourn this week, as expected, without voting on drilling.

    While a special session is unlikely, House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, made clear that his party plans to use the issue as a bludgeon against Democrats throughout the five-week August recess.

    "A solid majority of Americans want us to have more drilling for more American-made energy, and they aren't going to take no for an answer," Boehner said Thursday. "Speaker Pelosi, Senators (Harry) Reid and (Barack) Obama are defying the will of the American people, and they're doing so at their own risk."

    Some Democrats have already started to shift their views. Rep. Tim Holden, D-Pa., who voted two years ago against drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and for a federal ban on offshore drilling, told a hometown paper last weekend he now wants to "drill everywhere."

    A new CNN/Opinion Research poll released this week found that 69 percent of Americans favor more offshore drilling, while 30 percent oppose it. But the poll found the public was split over whether more coastal drilling would lower gas prices, with 51 percent saying yes and 49 percent saying no.

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 3:45:46 AM

    Comment: DAvhole, bist du ein Idiot, du würdest saugen glücklich die saggy Kugeln von John McCain. Deine Mamma war ein ladyboy.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/01/2008 4:48:59 PM

      Comment: Du bist eine ***.

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/01/2008 9:28:46 AM

      Comment: hardlyhere -

      It is evident that you realize that you are unable to express rational thought in English, so you are trying to do so in German - failure again!

      But it's surprising what you can pick up in the beer halls and taverns -probably even some of your female obamabot ranters.

      Did you fail your way through each class in grade school?
      It is a blatant defect in your educational system whereby failures are just shifted from one grade to the next, irrespective of any student accomplishment in learning.

      If you are interested, you might be able to enroll in a summer school program.
      And then again, the education system would probably consider you to be a hopeless case.- uneducatable.

      Better luck next time!

      • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 6:13:59 PM

        Comment: AWE DavHOLE doesn't speak German...maybe Zomb can translate for you ;)

        TROLLDavHole

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 2:49:48 AM

    Comment: As I said " Don't be fool enought to make me list ALL of the LIES this administration has told to further their WAR FOR OIL... but I'll give you one MAJOR lie..."PAT TILLMAN".
    Q: "where's your proof regarding everything that they said over an 8 year span"...Dilhole
    A: Evidentally under EXECUTIVE PRIVILIDGE, except to day a BUSH appointed Federal Judge, said their calims are "Legally Baseless"...ot oh

    Q:"As to the verification of your assertion that John McCain lied by saying "TIME TABLE" on the CNN Wolf Blitzer show"...Dilhole

    A:"McCains does continually LIE, and say what ever he thinks will get him votes, as recently as him saying "TIME TABLE" to wolfe blitzer on CNN only to turn and LIE about it 2 days later stating he NEVER said the WORD "TIME TABLE."

    Here I'll give you this cause it's fun:

    1st he says time table: @ 1:27 sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFVHup5b6Uw

    Next He denies using the word Time Table: @ 1:44sec

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD5o6RhZilM

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/01/2008 4:50:28 PM

      Comment: What's the Pat Tillman lie? He died in Afghanistan. Seriously you don't make any sense a lot of times.

      • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 6:06:32 PM

        Comment: YOU"RE A MORON !!!!!

        Bush and Rumsfeld said Tillman died saving other infantry, he did not, he was shot by one of his own men from less than 15' away, they LIED to PROMOTE the WAR! GOD you and DavHole are idiots, got to FOX and BOLG away you'll find your kind there...

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/01/2008 10:09:28 AM

      Comment: hardlyhere -

      You're pathetic! Are you "la creme de la creme" of obamabot bloggers?

      There is no such term as "EXECUTIVE PRIVILIDGE" - "look it up" in a dictionary or thesaurus, if you should have one or both (you really should), or if you have actually learned how to use either of them.

      So, the CNN Wolf Blitzer show is your biased supposed news source - keep on watching, he sure sucks in the viewership ratings which appear to depend on his relatives, you, and an occasional channel-surfer for an audience.

      Even though I choose not to watch his stilted program, I think that you should refrain from calling him a "Dilhole" - that might hurt his feelings, along with those of other obamabots.

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 07/31/2008 10:09:36 PM

    Comment: "but very few, if any people lie all the time " can you say "bush and cheney for 8yrs"...what's your thought on that? Don't be fool enought to make me list ALL of the LIES this administration has told to further their WAR FOR OIL... but I'll give you one MAJOR lie..."PAT TILLMAN".

    McCains does continually LIE, and say what ever he thinks will get him votes, as recently as him saying "TIME TABLE" to wolfe blitzer on CNN only to turn and LIE about it 2 days later stating he never said the WORD"TIME TABLE...WTF and his list goes on and on.

  • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 07/31/2008 10:04:18 PM

    Comment: Davole, I see you're running a thread for your personal propaganda again. Well, I found you, and we'll get this under control, just like last time.

    Pia the cavalry has arrived ;)

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/01/2008 10:23:40 AM

      Comment: hardlyhere -

      I see that you persist in posting unsubstantiated rants - you're limited by your abysmal level of education and intellect - rant disregarded.

      Also, you claim that you'll "get this under control" - hardly, you've never been under control, so why should you start now?

      The only control which you demonstrate is the obamabot campaign's control over you actually expressing an original thought of your own.

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/31/2008 10:27:25 PM

      Comment: Harley! I knew you'd come! Thank you. Today I was thinking of asking you to check out the comments D has been posting about me but I didn't want to call more attention to them. He posts personal comments that bother me.

      Sending you a hug my friend, thanks again.

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/01/2008 4:44:42 PM

        Comment: If you don't want Davole to post to you, then don't respond to any of his posts. Your a strong girl so I know you will be okay. Take a break if you need to.

        • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 9:25:17 PM

          Comment: Zombiehero -

          Out of respect for P, I've assured her that I will not post any blogs to her.

          Today, her "blog hero" (hug, hug) is in true rare form.

          Would you be willing to alert her to view his rants today so that she can send him a few more hugs?

          I think that he may need them, along with a straight-jacket!

        • Posted By: Davole @ 08/02/2008 2:41:30 PM

          Comment: Zombiehero -

          You've offered excellent advice to her. Thank you!

      • Posted By: Davole @ 08/01/2008 11:21:26 AM

        Comment: Pia1981 -

        Well, the ingratiating Lolita butterfly of this website is "a flutter" again!

        I expected that there would be a link between you and this radical blogger, and here you have confirmed it.

        So you decided to "throw a tantrum" as demonstrated by your envious juvenile attacks against sharenews, just because you have a disagreement with me, and you immaturely decided to "take it out" on her that same evening. Very telling!

        Your previously posted explanation of the reason for the "1981" tail end of your screen name does explain why you have probably developed that reactionary propensity. And that was 27 years ago - plenty of time to just "let go". But instead, you have chosen to let that experience define you, and the way you react to others who disagree with you.

        May God help you! Despite your actions, I still do like you, and I even pray for you, hoping that you will return to practicing some of the religion in which you stated that you were raised.

        Still trying to respect you! Have a fine day!

      • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 12:37:39 AM

        Comment: He's a punk and a wanna be bully

        • Posted By: Davole @ 08/01/2008 11:24:00 AM

          Comment: hardlyhere -

          You're pathetic!

          • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 6:08:19 PM

            Comment: YOU'RE a TROLL ;) and we all know it, look that up b!tch ;)

          • Posted By: AskPlus @ 08/01/2008 12:27:39 PM

            Comment: No Pia and Harley are right. You're not nice and too very personal in negative way. You should not claim you take the high road, then take the low road. That's very McCain-like. Calling people names and using improper innuendo with regard to something negative in someones past does not make you smart, or humane. You should leave people alone in that respect. Your barbs are immature. Anyone can hit a girl sir.

            • Posted By: Davole @ 08/01/2008 4:14:48 PM

              Comment: I notice that you do not have the competence and maturity to respond to my reply to your comments yesterday. For that reason, I certainly do not value your opinion in other regards.

              Can't you start an iniative for discussion on your own, without merely seconding the statements of others, such as hardlyhere and Pia1981?

              You wouldn't be capable of determining whether or not I am nice, because you're lacking in that regard.
              You merely parrot other biased bloggers' rants.

              With regard to your accusation that I am "too personal in negative way," I merely drew Pia1981's attention to the fact that she had spoken out of "both sides of her mouth" by applauding one blogger who had repeatedly insinuated that John McCain is senile, and then telling another blogger that she did not think that McCain is senile. So, my comment was valid! And my intention was not to denigrate her - it was to enable her to realize that, and to improve herself.

              Also, I have mentioned several times to Pia1981 that I do like and care for her, and I have often wished her well.

              If I had been doing the same by being opportunistic at the expense of demonstrating integrity, I would have appreciated someone drawing that behavour discrepancy to my attention.

              With regard to your assertion that I claim that I take the high road, then take the low road, where have I done that?

              I believe that modus operandi is much more evident by the actions of Obama, and not McCain. In fact I'm even surprised by the several instances in which McCain has refrained from doing any criticism of his opponent, even though warranted.

              Where have I "called people names and using improper innuendo with regard to something negative in someones past?"

              You claim that what you regard to be my " barbs are immature." Can and will you be specific here?

              And lastly, you state that "Anyone can hit a girl." I don't know about that - for I have never hit a girl. Have you?

              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/01/2008 4:39:28 PM

                Comment: Davole- Okay, this is it- I am going to ask you now to please stop posting about me. I am asking you nicely. This is not about my John McCain's senility comments. This is about you calling me Lolita, this is about you saying that I am envious of sharenews which I am not. This behavior of yours is about you bringing up my 1981 comment to Skypoint which is none of your business. That's right, what Sky and I discuss is none of your business unless our comments are directed at you. You commented in one post the other day about 'strings attached.' That is none of your business. Have you noticed that Sky and I are not blogging together here lately? Have you asked yourself why? Davole, I am sorry that you obviously have a problem with me even though you keep insisting that you like me and care about me. Sure you do, you embarass me, you offend me, you insinuate that I am not intelligent, and that I am catty and naughty amongst other things. You even offended me over my religious upbringing! Don't deny any of it, Davole, it's all on this page for all to see! There is even more evidence of your abuse on another article. I have been nice to you, I have been respectful to you, you on the other hand have disrespected me. I can see now that your disturbing behavior is out of jealousy for Skypoint. What other reason could there be? Now, please, I am asking you nice, leave me alone.

                • Posted By: Davole @ 08/01/2008 8:21:28 PM

                  Comment: Pia1981 -

                  You asked me to leave you alone - fine - this will be my last post to you.
                  I apologize for it being a long reply - I have put a lot of thought, time, and effort into it, and I believe that I owe it to you.

                  I would like to address and clarify several statements which you have made in your reply, if I may. Would that be acceptable for you? If not, then don't bother to read the rest of my reply.
                  I'm not expecting you to reply, nor do I intend to converse with you again, if that???s your wish.

                  I never posted "about" you - I replied to your posts, and out of consideration for you, only posted as a reply, never as a comment on ???center stage??? as you have often done about me.

                  I apologize for calling you Lolita. That may have been out or order - it was in reference to you using this political website to teasingly socialize, nothing more.

                  In regard to my saying that you are envious of sharenews, you yourself had stated that in one of your posts on Jul. 26, 2008 in which you stated that you were considering criticizing her.
                  I do respect her, probably just as Skypoint respects you. Can you understand that?

                  I mentioned your 1981 comment to Skypoint because it was visible on this board for all to see, and because it provided an explanation regarding your possible internalized feelings when coping with an uncomfortable situation. My intention was not to denigrate you in that regard.

                  You may have misinterpreted my comment about 'strings attached.' - I was not referring to your discussions and friendly relationship with Skypoint - my intention was to convey the fact that I had wanted to try to help you, without receiving anything in return. Should I be vilified for that?

                  Yes, I have noticed that Skypoint and you are not blogging together here lately, and I think that I have correctly suspected the reason. I believe that he truly cares for you, and is trying to shield you from any possible future embarrassment. And that is very decent and noble of him.

                • Posted By: Davole @ 08/01/2008 8:14:44 PM

                  Comment: Pia1981 - Continued

                  I don't believe that I have a problem with you (but obviously you do with me, and I can accept that), and yes, I do appreciate your acknowledgment that I regularly have stated that I like you and care about you.
                  Some of your replies were either dismissive or negative in that regard.

                  I am not aware of any instance in which I have insinuated that you are not intelligent.
                  And yes, I agree that I have asked you once or twice whether you were being catty or naughty, as opposed to your having stated at times that you had been bad. I may be wrong, but I believe that being catty or naughty is not as severe as being so-called bad.

                  My intention was not to offend you over your religious upbringing - it was to ask you to consider whether your actions were consistent with those guiding principles. I was leaving that up to you, and you perceived my questioning as an offense, even though it wasn't meant to be one.

                  You say that you have been nice and respectful to me - yes, in several instances, you have been.

                  Lastly, you state that I am jealous of Skypoint - no I'm not - he appears to be a very fine gentleman, a decent, respectful individual who cares for you, and has demonstrated that he "brightens your day" on many occasions. That's great, and I do appreciate that for both of you.
                  Please convey that sentiment to him for me. If you do - thanks. If not - I understand.

                  I'm sorry that you have perceived my intentions otherwise, but I can live with that.

                  Finally, as you have requested, yes I will leave you alone.
                  If, for whatever reason you might care to reply, you will have the last word in this regard.

                  Have a satisfying and accomplished day (and I do sincerely wish that for you)!

                • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 6:12:19 PM

                  Comment: PIA if he pictures you as not only a "girl" but a "little girl" then not only does he gat a thrill from TRYING to bully you, but he gets a "rise " out of it too (though I guessing by the level of insecurity he expresses it's not a very substantial rise...lol ;)

                  DavHole is just a troll.

                  • Posted By: Davole @ 08/01/2008 8:32:17 PM

                    Comment: hardlyhere -

                    Is that how you get your "kicks"?
                    If so, then I truly pity you!

                  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/01/2008 6:42:59 PM

                    Comment: Hello and thank you Harley, my friend. I have not done a thing to Davole. I have never posted anything disrespectful to Davole. I had never even posted one comment to him until about a week ago. I asked him an innocent question. I asked him whether poison ivy grows in Canada, that's all. After that he assumed he had carte blanche to post personal and offensive remarks about me.

                    • Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/01/2008 10:00:31 PM

                      Comment: I actually googled the word "davole"...it came back as a no longer in bussiness DOUCHEBAG manufacturer