Yet another rediculous photo of Obama looking off into the sky or horizon as if he's deep in thought or looking to god for strength and guidance. It's been done to death and none of these photo ops are spontaneous. It will, however, make a great picture book for future generations to look at in the Obama presidential library if a miracle happens and he gets elected. JFK already did these pensive "weight of the world on my shoulders" photos and his were real.
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Posted By: ebony @ 07/21/2008 2:29:05 AM
Excellent article! Obama would be really great for the American people and the nation! He has a wide vision of the situation we are in not a narrow view like McCain! All McCain knows is WAR! Obama is a respectful individual even when he doesn't agree with you! We need that kind of leadership! Wake up America! We need better! If McCain get's in office, we will surely be doomed!
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/21/2008 3:03:16 AM
Fear Fear Fear....that's your only argument? I though the Dems hated using Fear to get votes....oh I'm sorry that's only when they lose....if they think they can win....they will and are using FEAR to get votes.....
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 3:06:10 AM
Hey Zombie, how work? I work in the afternoon so Im a late nighter. Well, carry on. : - )
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/21/2008 3:15:14 AM
It's good....boring but what's new....go to the Obama visits Iraq board...has a lot of old posts on there....I got a kick out of reading some of them....I almost miss A and G....they were always good for a laugh.....
http://www.newsweek.com/id/81812/page/1-
Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 3:48:10 AM
A and G? I am over there now. I will search for what you are referring to. LOL. Off hand, I do not remember A and G but will look for their posts.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/21/2008 3:53:48 AM
You know the racebaiters.....it comical re-reading those old posts....
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 3:59:54 AM
ahhh, okay, good clue. Lol . : - D
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/21/2008 4:07:39 AM
Isn't it funny though....really I was laughing for a good 20 minutes....showed a few people at work....they were appalled. Even got one co worker to commit to backing McCain for it....It's great when Obama's people get people to vote for McCain. =)
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Posted By: OnMaui @ 07/21/2008 8:34:02 PM
Just curious... did you also tell your co-workers what you said to Make A and G respond to you the way they did?
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 9:51:09 AM
Well who ever you are, it;'s obvious that your a name changer on here....so who were you? Got beat up too much so had to change your handle....the really best part is that being able to read those old posts, we read the WHOLE post. Alvy and Glimps and slew of others that used to be one here (probably you before you changed your name) would go out of their way to call anyone that voted for Hillary, "Stupid, racist, ignorant, bigots...etc" Just read those old posts, some of them were back from the Primaries, and you'd see someone say something about supporting HIlls, Alvy and glimps would called them racist because they were "afraid" to support a black man. It's despicable. They would accuse a poster of saying the "N" word with no proof or evidence except their "word," which was utterly useless to begin with and try to silence anyone that opposed their views. That's something Pia conveniently leaves out when she defends Alvy all the time. He used to get mad because she wouldn't say the same lies.
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Posted By: OnMaui @ 07/22/2008 12:07:30 PM
This has always been my name. I have read the blogs for months and very rarely comment. I have seen the things you have said to incite the anger of Alvy and Glimps. I do remember you using the N word and Alvy calling you on it. Then he continued to call you on it even as you tried to deny, retract, avoid.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 12:13:52 PM
Then why did Alvy get soo mad at Pia because she would say that I used that word. I never did and never have....he tried to use the same tactics against Sharenews and a few other Hillary supporters here....with nothing to back up his accusation except his "word."
Yes believe the word of a racebaiter.....Alvy cried wolf too many times and all his posting were pure hatred and vitriol. The only positive thing he ever said was on the fathers day speech, I even agreed with him and said so...of course I was still "a stupid ignorant bigot." Even when I agree on something with him....why do you think him and the rest of his ilk are not on these blogs anymore....because we called him on his BS and he didn't have a leg to stand on....period!-
Posted By: OnMaui @ 07/22/2008 12:22:46 PM
I think you really do miss him and his torment of you. I have seen you bring up his name many times since he left the blogs. He really got under your skin didn't he. I don't recall seeing him get upset with Pia. But should I take YOUR word on that one? Hmmmmmmm, who to believe. HAHAHA! I guess I will just have to ask Pia since she is still here. See Pia treats everyone sweetly even when she disagrees with them. She sees the inherent goodness in everyone that some of us (Alvy) just don't. I don't think Alvy would have been upset with her for being true to who she is. He might have teased her about it but not gotten angry.
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Posted By: MaddiesFace @ 07/22/2008 2:26:14 PM
I happen to agree with you OnMaui. I don't blog much, but have been watching like you. I think it is more civilized to observe. Mr. Alvy is not my favorite person, not because of how he blogs, but because he is probably a DemBot. But I have never seen him attack the innocent or non-racially motivated. And sometimes he is funny to almost evil, but Mr. Zombie to me is the worst kind of blogger because he betrayed his beliefs. And as a mature voter and republican, I do not want that type of attitude in the McCain camp. A traitorous Mr. Zombie and a few others take time to insult without merit by saying Mr. Obama "flips-off" people and "may not be a Muslim" and want to be taken seriously. Then they betray there party by taking credit for our McCains surge insist. These old Clinton supporters make their own purgatory and are not wanted by either party due to trust and believability issues. Don't you agree their kind are the most offensive on these blogs? Mr Alvy completely and professionally humiliating them slowed them tremendously. He would have been a great Republican.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 8:09:33 PM
Maddie'sFace, thanks for your positive comments about Alvy. He doesn't blog anymore, but he has visited and posted a few comments recently. I know Alvy away from the blogs and I will let him know of your comments to him.
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Posted By: MaddiesFace @ 07/23/2008 3:31:39 PM
Maybe we need people to fight repulsive with repulsive. Alvy never just made things up or hunted for bad things to say about the opponents like the unholy disloyal. He seems impenetrable. His only fault I think is that he supported Clinton too. He would have made a good republican.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 1:12:51 PM
OnMaui, I do appreciate your kind words but lately I have not been sweet. I have been battling for my candidate Obama. I hate to be mean to anyone, even the Obama haters.
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Posted By: OnMaui @ 07/22/2008 1:34:04 PM
You are most welcome. You know we all have bad days and this is an easy place to express things you have to remember not to take things too personally. Just think a little over 3 months and all of your sweetness can be around full time again because all of this insanity will have had a conclusion.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 3:05:12 PM
You are right OnMaui, only a few more months of the insanity here on these blogs.
Thank you again for being kind to me. I enjoyed our conversation and I look forward to more soon..
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 1:00:51 PM
lol so what am I a Masochist? Ha ha no I was just telling Sharenews something....and everyone jumped on the conversation....
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Posted By: OnMaui @ 07/22/2008 1:02:44 PM
Imagine that people commenting on a public forum.... how dare they???????
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 1:21:50 PM
I know the nerve of some people....
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 2:51:05 PM
Oh Z, thanks for your positive comment for Alvy regarding his Father's Day posts.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 12:47:32 PM
Z, believe me, Alvy hates no one. No one. Trust me on this. You don't know him. I do. I will not tell you this again.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 12:57:38 PM
His actions speak louder than your words....but we all have opinions....I respect yours....nothing you can say will change mine.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 1:44:50 PM
Thanks. I respect you too. Someday you will change your mind about A.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 2:00:27 PM
I doubt it...but you never know... I never thought I'd ever for GOP but see how things work out.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 2:39:26 PM
Don't doubt it. It will happen.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 12:16:10 PM
Yes and anyone that doesn't agree with you is close minded? Take a look in the mirror buddy.
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Posted By: OnMaui @ 07/22/2008 12:25:00 PM
You are so comical! Thank you for making me laugh!
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 12:59:09 PM
No problem....I get a kick out of these posts too...
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 12:54:14 PM
Z, I have never seen you post the N word. I have seen the others Alvy has accused, do it many times while arguing with him. I have not conveniently left out anything. Many times, I have actually stayed neutral and refused to take sides. But Z, how do you know what I have said to Alvy in private away from the blogs? You don't.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 1:07:55 PM
lol....I don't know and don't care really...so this is all for attention then?
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 2:41:53 PM
Whatever do you mean, Z? What is all for attention?
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/21/2008 8:46:57 PM
Hello OnMaui. How are you? Thank you for your support for A and G. The two posters here commenting on them don't smell like roses.
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Posted By: OnMaui @ 07/22/2008 12:01:58 PM
HI Pia! I am happy to show support and yes the bad smell was what made me decide to comment. How are things with you?
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 12:37:28 PM
OnMaui lovely to 'see' you and thank you again. I'm well thanks except I miss Alvy not posting. He will no longer be a regular poster. He did stop by a couple of times last week to give us support. Other than that, things are even better then they were when you asked me that question a couple of months ago. You do know what I mean. I'm still enjoying it very much.
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Posted By: OnMaui @ 07/22/2008 1:01:26 PM
A'ole Pilikia. It means no problem. Nice to "see" you too. I am glad things are going so well for you. I wish you the very best. I know it is hard to find a good man. I finally found one too! Nothing better! Have a wonder week. A Hui Hou! (until we meet again)
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 1:42:30 PM
Happy to know that OnMaui. It is wonderful! Thank you. The very best to you too and I hope to 'see' you here again soon.
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Posted By: OnMaui @ 07/22/2008 1:03:27 PM
"wonderful"
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/21/2008 9:00:04 PM
Z, you sound desperate lately, it must be because you're hanging out with the wrong crowd. I know you are not a smear artist. You've never done that. BTW, Obama people won' t vote for McCain.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 9:57:04 AM
Your the one hanging with the wrong crowd sorry. How many times did you see your "crew" post blatant lies and libel other posters and said nothing? I post what I do, because that's what I believe, I post links to other sources to help prove my case, which is something I never see you or your "crew" ever do, except Nins.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 12:45:28 PM
Z, whatever crowd I hang with, I try to be true to myself. I don't agree with some things my crowd says and you know I don't join in nor encourage it. Whatever they do post, is after all freedom of speech. I should not be teeling them what they can post. Do you ever call out your own buddies here? Don't forget that I have defended you against Alvy. I have even defended Huachuca and Smithback a few times. You, several times. About these links you speak of, I have never posted a single link. I have no time for that and I am lazy at times to do the research. As for Alvy, once again, you don't know him. I do.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 1:20:16 PM
Depends on what you refer to my buddies...do you lump me in with all the right wings loons like Holy or with the Clinton Dems supporting McCain?
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 2:37:19 PM
Z, you know I don't lump you in with these people. You're not like that. I think it's best I drop the subject now before I say too much about who I'm refering to. Forget about it.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/21/2008 8:48:58 PM
Z, many times, Alvy was in the right to call out the racists and you know it. I am not in any way speaking about you. I'm speaking in general. And again, I know Alvy, you don't know him at all.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 10:01:19 AM
Why not speak about what Alvy said to me and share? How many times did Alvy call us racist? Did he offer any proof or any evidence? No, he never did and to your credit you actually told the truth, and that pissed him off if I recall. So there are two cases of where Alvy was manufacturing lies, oh but all those other times had to be true right? Nope, all his credibility is lost, if he ever had any to begin with. How do you think that would look in court?
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 2:34:44 PM
Z, first of all A did not manufacture and again, I did not see you post that word. Second, my mistake, you're right, you don't hang out with the wrong crowd . I should have posted you have hung out with certain people lately. You know. I have my reasons for posting that. One, you are not like that.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 3:57:59 AM
Okay , I went there and gave up. Is A equal to Alvy? Not sure about G blogger at all. You dont have to reveal any more if you dont want to. Im just perplexed who you are referring to . LOL.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/21/2008 8:53:20 PM
Sharenews, how can you not remember Glimps? She could run circles around everybody including you. She is a psychotherapist you know.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 10:02:06 AM
Your too funny....circles? really?
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 12:28:46 PM
Circles.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 12:55:22 PM
Never saw it...so I guess I'll have to take your word for it
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/21/2008 8:51:56 PM
Z, glad to know you miss Alvy and Glimps.... Alvy was here on friday, Glimps hasn't visited for weeks now. I miss her. Yes, the blogs are boring without them and also Tired and Old. Z, you can go ahead and post their full names. They have nothing to hide. Do you?
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Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/21/2008 8:45:06 AM
so Im a late nighter........How old are you? sharenews, they do have a site where you can leave your comments, it is called Romper Room. You and your boy Zombie can use your third grade education and not be judged.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/21/2008 9:03:28 PM
chin, I like you and you and I get along. With this said, please be nice to Zombie. He's not a bad guy, he's just misguided. Perhaps you and I can guide him to the right path.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 9:40:17 AM
Um excuse me....um no...your the one misguided.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 1:04:20 PM
Z, no, you are. I have a feeling you and I are going to be playing blog tag over this.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 1:17:58 PM
ha ha....nope....
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 12:05:00 PM
Your getting really lame... you used to have much better comebacks than that....
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/21/2008 11:49:51 AM
Wow....if thats all you got....pretty lame.
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Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/21/2008 8:35:56 AM
sharenews, you talk about Obama.....it is how's work.....How work lets me know that you should not be leaving comments.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 10:48:58 PM
I wish I worked at night and could blog. I am jealous for those who can. I should be so lucky. : - )
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/21/2008 9:04:06 PM
Great comments, thanks!
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Posted By: NO OOOOOOOOO @ 07/22/2008 8:22:16 AM
This is getting ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS! Obama is NOT POTUS
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Posted By: loriw @ 07/23/2008 3:10:11 PM
Didn't you see the presidential seal? and the flag with 57 stars?
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 8:57:14 AM
Not yet. He will be in Nov.
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/22/2008 9:09:52 AM
Don't hold your breath, fortune teller. The Empty Suit isn't in office yet!
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 9:22:12 AM
In November.
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Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/22/2008 10:05:15 AM
That kind of hubris could cost Obama the election
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 8:45:12 PM
News and Notes, be quiet. I'm tired of your bullying. The next time you post any personal attack, I will let you have it back and more. OR, Alvy will stop by just to visit with you for a bit. You do know Alvy, correct?
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 10:32:49 AM
Wasn't the big case those Obama people had against HIllary, was that she was being to presumptive? Now that shoe is on the other foot, its okay?
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Posted By: metzlerd @ 07/22/2008 5:18:46 PM
Pia's confidence is not the same as Obama making some kind of assumption that "it's his turn."
It was the statements that somehow there was some kind of pecking order or good ole boys club that he had to get through that people found objectionable.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 11:18:16 AM
In all fairness to Pia...she is just misguided. =)
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 12:57:39 PM
Z, I do thank you for your support, however I am not misguided. I have a pretty good head on my shoulder. I have made good choices throughout my life. I trust myself in supporting Obama.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 1:13:44 PM
If you say so...
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/22/2008 10:36:45 AM
Pia, you may want to listen to News and Notes.... Remember the Giants and the Mighty Pats?
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 2:55:40 PM
No, I do not want nor need to listen to News and Notes.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/22/2008 1:14:47 PM
LoL.....Go Blue!
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/22/2008 9:37:35 AM
Like I said, don't hold your breath.
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Posted By: Davole @ 07/22/2008 10:52:22 AM
Pia1981 -
And on what facts do you base your opinion? Oh, you don't have any yet - you're definitely a true obamabot.
Pssst - for your information, the candidate who is elected president will not assume office until the early part of 2009, not this November.
But that's OK - after all, you're just a misprogrammed (is that redundancy?) obamabot.
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Posted By: metzlerd @ 07/22/2008 9:29:03 AM
No he isn't. Nor does he claim to be.
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/22/2008 9:39:09 AM
Exactly. Though impossible to accomplish, as he is not what you're making him out to be.
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Posted By: metzlerd @ 07/22/2008 5:13:46 PM
I would disagree. I'm not making him out to be anything that he isn't. He may not be perfect, but he's quite good compared to the alternative. I see what he has voted on, and I see why he's voted that way. I looked at the same things for Edwards, Clinton, and McCain.
I would argue that he isn't what YOU and others are making him out to be. He's actually much better than that.
I'm not the one saying he has NO experience. I'm not the one saying he's a Muslim. I'm not the one saying the fact that he came out against the war when people called you unpatriotic for doing so, means nothing with regard to his support for the war. I'm not the one who is blaming him for high gas prices that started their rapid rise in 2002. I'm not the one saying he's against guns. I'm not the one saying he's against gun control. I'm not the one saying that he's against free trade or NAFTA. I'm not the one saying he's against America or unpatriotic.
I'm not the one saying gas prices will drop if only we allow oil companies to come over and drill for oil in protected lands. I'm not the one saying gas prices will drop if only we let the gas companies stop paying their taxes.
And frankly neither is Obama. It's precisely the people that are making these claims that are making Obama out to be something he's not. So if you're looking for Kool-Aid, check your own glass.
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Posted By: Kboogie @ 07/23/2008 2:38:27 PM
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!
McCain Gets History Of The Surge Wrong, CBS Doesn't Air Footage!!!!!
July 22, 2008 11:43 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/22/mccain-gets-history-of-th_n_114419.html
During a CBS interview on Tuesday, John McCain made a stone cold error on a subject about which he claims expert knowledge: the "surge" strategy in Iraq. In an interview with anchor Katie Couric, the Arizona Republican said, inaccurately, that the surge strategy was responsible for the much-touted "Anbar Awakening," in which Sunni sheiks turned against Al Qaeda, helping in turn to reduce violence in the country.
Katie Couric: Senator McCain, Senator Obama says, while the increased number of US troops contributed to increased security in Iraq, he also credits the Sunni awakening and the Shiite government going after militias. And says that there might have been improved security even without the surge. What's your response to that?
McCain: I don't know how you respond to something that is as-- such a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel MacFarland was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening. I mean, that's just a matter of history.
In fact, as Spencer Ackerman and Ilan Goldenberg have reported, the record firmly establishes the opposite: instead of being caused by the surge, the key signs of the Anbar Awakening occurred not only before that strategy was implemented, but before it was ever conceived.
Yet McCain's error was not seen by any CBS Evening News viewers. As MSNBC's Keith Olbermann noted (video below), "CBS curiously, to say the least, left it on the edit room floor. It aired Katie Couric's question, but in response, it aired part of McCain's answer to the other question instead." (Ironically, this edit came on the same day that McCain's campaign released a video mocking the media's "love affair" with Obama.)
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McCain is a liar and a puppet for the ready-made "Bush and Neo-Con Agenda".
The GOP could've at least chosen a candidate who's not suffering from the early stages of Alzheimer's.
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Posted By: lupe130 @ 07/21/2008 11:30:45 PM
I'm tired of Newsweek's attempts to ram Obama down our throats week in and week out. All your flattering cover photos and blatantly fawning articles about the man serve to depict him as larger than life. On a small scale, It smacks of the brainwashing propaganda behind all those mega-sized billboards and statues of despots like Fidel Castro, Mao Zedong, Saddam Hussein that we have seen over the decades in totalitarian
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Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/23/2008 2:02:24 PM
I think Newsweek should change its name to Obamaweek.
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Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/22/2008 9:52:55 AM
Unfortunatley its working,he knocked off Hillary. At some point it will backfire. I hope its before the convention
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/22/2008 12:11:19 AM
Here is why this site and lots of other websites, newspapers, radio stations, etc are bias:
http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20080530-murdoch-praises-obama
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 11:57:22 PM
WHY IRAN IS A GREAT THREAT:
It is Irans APOCALYPTIC world view that distinguishes their likelihood to use a nuclear bomb than other governments (US, Israel, etc.) with nuclear weapons capability. See article excerpt below I obtained from a couple sections on this site:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Threats_to_Israel/Iran.html#threats
THREATS AGAINST ISRAEL AND AMERICA
The only way to confront the Zionist enemy is the continuation and fortification of resistance and Jihad, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was quoted as saying September 3, 2005, in a meeting with the militant group Islamic Jihad's secretary general Ramazan Abdullah (AFP, September 3, 2005).
In October 2005, recently elected PRESIDENT MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD QUOTED AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI AND DECLARED: AS THE IMAM SAID, ISRAEL MUST BE WIPED OFF THE MAP.
The president added: And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism (AP, October 26, 2005).
President Bush said February 16, 2005 Iran has made it clear that they do not like Israel, to put it bluntly. And the Israelis are concerned about whether or not Iran develops a nuclear weapon, as are we, as should everybody. Clearly, if I was the leader of Israel, and I listened to some of the statements by the Iranian ayatollahs that regarded my security of my country, I would be concerned about Iran having a nuclear weapon, as well. And in that Israel is our ally, and in that we have made a very strong commitment to support Israel, we will support Israel if their security is threatened.
Irans non-conventional weapons are not a threat only toward Israel, they also pose a danger to the United States and its interests around the world. And the American people recognize this danger. According to a January 2006 Gallup poll, 19% of Americans see Iran as an immediate threat to the United States and another 65% said Iran is a long-term threat.
On June 15, 2006, Irans defense minister, Mostafa Mohammad Najjar, signed an agreement with his Syrian counterpart, Hassan Turkmani, for military cooperation against what they called the ???COMMON THREATS??? presented by Israel and the United States. Our cooperation is based on a strategic pact and unity against common threats, said Turkmani. We can have a common front against Israels threats.
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Posted By: OldUncleTom @ 07/22/2008 12:41:05 AM
Well, to be fair, in this great "poodle" nation of ours, I'm quite sure that 19% of the population is afraid of flouride in toothpaste, so that argument is hardly relevant.
Consider this: America has military buildups almost surrounding Iran. They don't like us much, and we overtly threaten military action on a regular basis. What would our reaction be to 200,000 troops in Canada and Mexico, backed up by a massive fleet off the Atlantic coast?
Iran is not run by crazy people, contrary to all the BS rhetoric that being thrown about today. They are fully aware of this country's capacity to wipe them out in a full-scale war. The noise you hear is the defiance of a nation that feels very threatened by an aggressive America. If you recall, Saddam Hussein would not deny his possession of "super weapons" either, but how many did it turn out that he actually had? NONE.-
Posted By: sharenews @ 07/22/2008 1:56:12 AM
Are you a foreigner or US citizen? Cant tell.
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Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/23/2008 2:01:41 PM
Tom clearly has no understanding of Iran's history and the US relationship to it. He probably has never even heard of the Iran hostage crisis.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 11:59:51 PM
(Continued from above post)
WOULD IRAN USE THE BOMB?
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad believes the most important task of the Iranian Revolution was to prepare the way for the return of the Twelfth Imam, who disappeared in 874, bringing an end to Muhammad???s lineage. This imam, the Mahdi or DIVINELY GUIDED ONE, Shiites believe, will return in an APOCALYPTIC BATTLE in which the forces of righteousness will DEFEAT THE FORCES OF EVIL and bring about a new era in which Islam ultimately becomes the dominant religion throughout the world. The Shiites have been waiting patiently for the Twelfth Imam for more than a 1,000 years, but Ahmadinejad believes he can now HASTEN THE RETURN THROUGH A NUCLEAR WAR. Ayatollah Hussein Nuri Hamdani explicitly said in 2005 that THE JEWS should be fought against and forced to surrender to prepare the way for the coming of the Hidden Imam.
It is this APOCALYPTIC world view, Middle East scholar Bernard Lewis notes, that distinguishes Iran from other governments with nuclear capability.
THE SCARIERTHING IS THIS OBAMA FLIP FLOP. WHO REALLY IS THIS GUY?
OBAMA SAYS: Dont tell me words dont matter!
OBAMA WORDS: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela -- these countries are TINY compared to the Soviet Union. They DONT pose a serious threat to us!
TWO Days later . . .
OBAMA WORDS: Iran is a GREAT threat! Iran is a GREAT threat (REALLY)! Iran is a GREAT threat (I AM NOT KIDDING HERE)!
WHAT does Obama really believe?? What are we supposed to think if he tells us words DO matter and he flip flops on such a major belief issue??.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lx-QcstDcU
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Posted By: sharenews @ 07/22/2008 12:06:54 AM
NBC News
THE SURGE SUCCEEDS: McCain was Right! Obama was Dead Wrong
Chris Matthews
MAY 30, 2008
CHRIS MATTHEWS QUESTION TO DAVID AXLEROD, OBAMAS CHIEF STRATEGIST
Do you know . . . , do you know whether Senator Obama, given his position in the Senate, uh, on the FOREIGN RELATIONS Committee, do you know whether he thinks there has been progress made in Iraq . . because anecdotal evidence would tell you people returning, soldiers returning from Iraq, people, non-governmental people who have been in Iraq come back and say there actually has been progress made within the last year. Do you know what he (OBAMA) thinks about that?
AXLERODS ANSWER (MAY 30, 2008)
I think what he, what he said was, that theres been, uh, uh, the . . . I mean, he never disputed (? ? ?) the fact that if, that if you throw, uh, uh, a, a, a surge of American soldiers in an area that you can , uh, make a difference.
OBAMA . ..REGARDING THE SURGE (JAN. 14, 2007)
We cannot impose a military solution on what has effectively become a Civil war, and until we acknowledge that reality, uh, we can send 15,000 more troops, 20,000 more troops, 30,000 more troops, uh, I dont know any, uh, expert on the region or any military officer that I have spoken to, uh, privately, that believes that that is going to make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground.
THE REAL DEAL: McCain was RIGHT. Obama was DEAD WRONG.
Just imagine where we would be with the War in Iraq if Barack Obama was President?!
ABOVE INTERVIEW ON VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4vlBgh7KLg-
Posted By: OldUncleTom @ 07/22/2008 12:32:37 AM
Well, for openers, we would not be at war in Iraq, if Obama were President instead of lil Georgie and his merry band.
And, I suspect, we would have no Taliban, and Bin Laden would be arrested or dead, and most likely, Pakistan would like us a little less, but respect us far more. Along the way, Iran would probably be less belligerent, not having massive American military presence on 3 of its borders (counting the Gulf). And America will be about a trillion or two dollars less in debt.
You probably prefer the current mess, but I don't. It will take decades to undo the damage done by this borderline criminal adminstration.-
Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/23/2008 2:00:09 PM
Please, for your own edification go and read a history book about this part of the world. The Taliban existed during Clinton's administration. Issues with Iran go back decades. Bin Laden's power is wrapped up in this as well.
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Posted By: Davole @ 07/22/2008 5:49:29 AM
OldUncleTom -
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/22/2008 8:22:20 PM
Old Uncle Tom is delusional. As an apologist, Osama would still be operating as usual, same as he was after he attacked the USS Cole, our embassys, and the World Trade Center the first time. And no Taliban? That's laughable! And Iran less belligerent? He must mean less belligerent as when Saddam Hussein attacked and invaded Kuwait, a sovereign nation that did nothing to provoke him.
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/22/2008 8:42:16 PM
That's Iraq... my mistake.
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Posted By: delfairchild @ 07/22/2008 10:19:00 AM
Mr. Obama is like the new man in a Divorcee's life. Talk to the gal and when she says, "My husband never brought me flowers.", he'll go out and buy flowers. When she says, "I always wanted a nice rocking chair and he never bought me one.", he'll go out and buy her a chair. She thinks she is getting what she wants, and he will difinitely get what he wants.
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Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 07/22/2008 10:28:39 AM
You're describing Bush and McCain. Bush said "timetable" when the election said timetable. McCain said offshore drilling when Bush said offshore drilling. Hillary too, when McCain said gas tax holiday, Hillary said Gas tax holiday. Where is your argument using metaphors?
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/22/2008 10:48:03 AM
The idea here is that Obama is saying exactly what his public wants to hear. Most politicians will do this at one time or another, however, due to his ability as a quick change artist, and his ability to speak eloquently for 30 minutes and not say a word, Obama pulls it off so much better than anyone else.
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Posted By: Zip1 @ 07/22/2008 11:21:27 AM
And if you read the article you would know that he has been remarkably consistent about his foreign policy views. But you probably didn't bother.
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Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/23/2008 1:43:56 PM
Like he said some time ago that Iran posed no real threat due to its size and now he's stated it's a grave security threat?
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Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/22/2008 5:14:25 PM
Like when he switched from being pro-Palestinian to being pro-Israel when he decided to run for the senate?
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/22/2008 11:34:01 AM
Yes, I read it. That does not make the author right. As for his foreign policy consistancy, this is from a previous post:
Surge? I supported the surge. Surge? The surge will make thing s worse. Jerusalem: It should remain the undivided capital of Israel. Jerusalem: It is subject to final negotiations between Israel and Palestinians. Darfur: We should intervene in Darfur. Darfur, we should not intervene in Darfur. Pakistan: We should bomb without their approval. Pakistan. Is doing a fine job with th their war on terror...
Real consistant.
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Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/22/2008 5:13:37 PM
Dead on! Have you seen his email to democrats, asking them to let him know what they want for his platform? I thought the candidates were supposed to be establishing where they stood on the issues during the primaries, but perhaps his adoption of all of Hillary Clinton's platform provisions was simply him telling the voters what he thought they wanted to hear during the primaries, and now that he is the presumptive nominee, he is free to change what he stands for and believes in.
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Posted By: celeste47 @ 07/21/2008 12:42:08 PM
We need new leadership to repair the mess the Republicans have left us.....people, if we get this wrong again and put another Republican in office, be prepared to lose our #1 world ranking. China, Europe, and the Middle Eastern nations will rule and own us.
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/21/2008 12:49:57 PM
Can you explain exactly how he's going to do this? Because he's a smooth talker? He's yet to define "change". Other than run for president, Obama has done almost nothing in his short time in the Senate,
Since I can balance my checkbook, I wonder if Bank America will let me be their President? hmmmmm-
Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 07/21/2008 1:00:07 PM
He's defined his change agenda, you just haven't been listening. And maybe they will let you be President, just go put in your application and submit your resume.
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/21/2008 1:14:51 PM
You mean raising taxes through the roof....yes I did hear about that.
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Posted By: raddave @ 07/21/2008 1:46:32 PM
He is not advocating raising taxes, he is for letting the Bush Tax cuts, which were temporary, expire. These tax cuts only effected the wealthy. Obama is for a tax cut to favor the middle class.
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/21/2008 1:55:45 PM
You have a short memory. I remember Clinton telling the same lie about taxes that got him into office. Soon after taking office, he stated that he was sorry, he just couldn't give the tax break he promised. In fact, he said he'd have to raise those taxes. In fact, he raised them retroactivly.
Don't fall for that same old liberal lie again!-
Posted By: raddave @ 07/21/2008 4:00:18 PM
ha ha ha, he raised taxes retractively. Not possible, but I will let you keep you disillusions. The tax increase put into place while Clinton was president, only affected the top 1.2% of the tax payers.
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/22/2008 8:45:45 AM
As a good lib, you or course don't have your facts straight.
This was reported nationally...
In his State of the Union speech, President Clinton claimed credit for reducing the budget deficit. What he didn't say is that when he signed the budget reconciliation bill last August, he set in motion a fundamentally unfair and unconstitutional approach to tax policy that has implications for every taxpayer.
That bill, the largest tax increase in American history, raised income corporate, estate and gift taxes rectroactively to Jan. 1, 1993 -- a date that fell 20 days before Clinton's inauguration and four days before the 103rd Congress was sworn in.
Never before in American history have taxes been applied retroactively to a prior administration. On Jan. 1 last year, most Americans eagerly awaited enactment of Clinton's promise of a middle-income tax cut.
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Posted By: raddave @ 07/22/2008 6:16:14 PM
If you you would do some actual reasearch and not just read right-wing propaganda you would know that the budget reconciliation bill was NOT the largest tax increase in history. Here is a breakdown of what the bill did to taxes:
Income Dollars Percentage
Less than $10,000 -68 -14.9
$10,000-$20,000 -86 -5
$20,000-$30,000 -41 -1
$30,000-$40,000 50 0.7
$40,000-$50,000 105 1.1
$50,000-$75,000 192 1.3
$75,000-$100,000 312 1.4
$100,000-$200,000 649 1.9
$200,000 or more 23,521 17.4
SOURCE: Congressional Budget Office
And last it was not retroactive and went into effect 1 Jan 94-
Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/22/2008 11:21:57 PM
Good grief Dave, can you not read? It was the largest increase in history! That's not right wing propaganda.... it a fact! Your numbers from the budget office are just that... just numbers off of a gov. schedule! And yes... it WAS retroactive!
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Posted By: raddave @ 07/23/2008 12:06:09 PM
Ok, then show me the "proof".
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Posted By: raddave @ 07/23/2008 12:16:57 PM
Here's a little proof for you, in 1916 the top income bracket was taxed at a rate of 15% In 1917 the top bracket increased to 67% That seems to me to be a larger increase than the One under Clinton. Source: wikipedia.
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Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 07/21/2008 2:16:38 PM
Your argument is still out of touch. You're trying to connect dots with numbers out of sequence. Listen, just be happy that Obama will let the Bush Tax Cuts expire and implement measures to correct the Social Security issue, address the workking class tax system and give you a good night's sleep.
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/21/2008 2:27:21 PM
Out of touch, I think not. I stated facts (you remember Clinton's big tax lie). And the only thing wrong with SS is that the gov. keeps borrowing from it!
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Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 07/21/2008 5:40:01 PM
Oops! You forgot Bush 41: "Read my lips. No new taxes."
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Posted By: raddave @ 07/21/2008 4:01:19 PM
Clinton did in fact cut taxes for the lower income tax brackets and expanded the Earned Income Credit.
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Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 07/21/2008 2:44:06 PM
Any taxes spent in America and not in Iraq are fine by me.
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Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/21/2008 3:13:54 PM
Bush's tax cuts help only 1% of the country.
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Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 07/21/2008 1:26:58 PM
I don't think you have been listening since that is McCain's stance. And besides, if you are basing your vote on taxes, then I don't think you have paid attention at all and just vote Republican every cycle. There are tons of issues at stake this election that will only become worse if McCain takes office, which by the way he will not if the nation has anything to say about it. Obama is a person with a vision to lead and all great presidents start with a vision. Because if its about shoot first and ask questions later, then we have tried that the last eight years and I for one didn't even vote for it in the first place.
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/21/2008 1:50:21 PM
Quote: "Because if its about shoot first and ask questions later, then we have tried that the last eight years and I for one didn't even vote for it in the first place."
Yes, I remember well when we adopted your way of thinking the eight years before that. As in when our Embassys were bombed, the USS Cole was attacked, and the World Trade Center was bombed the first time. Yes, the Europeans loved us as we sat on our asses and did nothing!-
Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 07/21/2008 2:07:05 PM
Sky point, you're point never left the ground. This argument is moot to the point of why you would vote in McCain. He is still all about firing the missile first before any evidence is presented. But as you just stated, the Republican run Senate and House sat on their asses as we were being taken out. Open a History book instead of just watcing FOX.
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/21/2008 2:36:34 PM
Pahhhleeez!!!! That was a Clinton decision, not a Republican controlled congress! You just said the Republicans shoot first and ask questions later. If that is true, (and I agree) why wouldn't they have gone after them then?
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Posted By: raddave @ 07/21/2008 4:04:32 PM
What was Clinton's decision exactly?
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/21/2008 7:14:43 PM
He didn't make one. His response? Osama, your time is up!
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Posted By: raddave @ 07/21/2008 9:41:01 PM
Osoma's time is up when Obama is president.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/21/2008 10:16:58 PM
Ditto.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/22/2008 9:17:52 AM
My 'ditto' above is for raddave's comment about Osama.
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Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/22/2008 8:38:46 AM
lol
He will do what Clinton did. Nothing.
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Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/21/2008 1:24:51 PM
We got it wrong when the DNC and Party elites snubbed Hillary and pushed obama over the top
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Posted By: Omaar @ 07/23/2008 11:39:19 AM
BERLIN (Reuters) - (German Chancellor Angela Merkel) is an Admirer of U.S. Presidential candidate Barack Obama -- even though she has not yet met him in person.
Asked at a news conference on Wednesday what she thought of Obama, Merkel responded: "I would say that he is well-equipped -- physically, mentally and politically."
Obama is due to meet with Merkel for about an hour on Thursday morning and will later give a speech on transatlantic relations at the "Victory Column" in Berlin's Tiergarten park.
Merkel objected to initial plans by the Obama campaign to hold the speech at the Brandenburg Gate. His appearance is expected to draw tens of thousands of Germans, who polls show prefer him to his Republican challenger John McCain.
Since coming to power in 2005, Merkel has repaired relations with Washington damaged when her predecessor Gerhard Schroeder clashed with U.S. President George W. Bush over the Iraq war.
Bush was famously caught on camera at a G8 meeting in 2006 giving Merkel a quick backrub and the chancellor was asked on Wednesday whether she expected more massages from Bush's successor -- whether it's McCain or Obama.
"That's not really up to me," she joked. "But I wouldn't resist."
Merkel said she would not be in Berlin for Obama's hotly anticipated speech, but added: "Maybe I'll turn on the television."
(Writing by Noah Barkin; Editing by Catherine Evans)
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Posted By: mj it @ 07/23/2008 11:36:21 AM
Iraq was ALL about business. And McCain has been nominated to keep that war machine churning out the bucks...at regular American's expense.
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Posted By: Omaar @ 07/23/2008 11:31:10 AM
Find one Congressmen, Congress Woman, Senator, Male Or Female that does not have Arabic Ties....
You Can't and you Won't find One !!!
The Saudia Arabian & United Arab Emirates are Directly Connected to (911) yet we're Occupying Iraq !!!
Did Obama Travel to Saudia Arabia or the United Arab Emirates ?
No He did Not !!!
Bush is a Staunch Saudia Arabian-United Arab Emirates Supporter, George Bush Jr. and Bill Clinton are the Very Reasons the (United Arab Emirates Control all our Major Ports), Thank Both of these Great American Presidents...OK
The Clintons, Bush Families & John McCain all have Arabian Ties, what kind of Fools do we have here, saying or thinking otherwise.
John Mccain has Big Oil Lobbyist Ties and is a Career Politician and has Traveled to Arabic Countries Strengthening those Arabic Ties, so does Madaleine Albright, John Kerry, George Bush's Cousin and a Slew of US Senators & Congressmen...All have Arabic Ties, Especially Men backed by Oil Men (Oil Lobbyist) and John McCain has a Slew of them, in his Campaign
Duh !!!
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/23/2008 11:00:06 AM
What's up with this???? Must be a bunch of, bitter, uneducated, clinging to their guns and bibles, racists, moving to Ohio. OR...could it be.....people are starting to realize, that...
.............Hussein Obama is a crook and a fraud............................
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 Email to a Friend
John McCain has opened a modest lead over Barack Obama in the key swing state of Ohio. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the Buckeye State shows McCain attracting 46% of the vote while Obama earns 40%. Last month and the month before McCain held a insignificant one-point lead over Obama.
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Posted By: Kboogie @ 07/23/2008 11:19:44 AM
Looks like you left out a few things. Rasmussen also reported:
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows Barack Obama attracting 45% of the vote while John McCain earns 42%. When "leaners" are included, it's Obama 47% and McCain 45%. In Colorado, Barack Obama leads Republican John McCain by seven percentage points, 49% to 42%.
And don't forget............The Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator shows now Obama leading in states with 210 Electoral College votes while McCain leads in states with 168 votes. When leaners are included, it's Obama 273, McCain 227. Rasmussen Markets data gives Obama a 65.3% chance of winning the White House.
Isn't the Electoral College what counts? I wonder why Karl Rove and Sean Hannity don't refer to this colorful array of states, anymore............hmmmmmmmmmm.
Happy cherry-picking, Holy!-
Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/23/2008 11:22:45 AM
It's really early in the process to be counting electoral votes, especially in states where neither candidate has 50% in the polls. The double digit undecided factor has yet to weigh in
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/23/2008 10:41:22 AM
What's up with this???? Must be a bunch of, bitter, uneducated, clinging to their guns and bibles, racists, moving to Ohio. OR...could it be.....people are starting to realize, that...
.............Hussein Obama is a crook and a fraud............................
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 Email to a Friend
John McCain has opened a modest lead over Barack Obama in the key swing state of Ohio. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the Buckeye State shows McCain attracting 46% of the vote while Obama earns 40%. Last month and the month before McCain held a insignificant one-point lead over Obama.
NOBAMA!!!-
Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 07/23/2008 10:53:21 AM
If that poll stuff works for you to keep your hopes alive then go for it.
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Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/23/2008 10:47:48 AM
Not surprising after Obama's show and tell overseas
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Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/23/2008 4:56:29 AM
MCCain ....Oh MCain please stop,Where did all Americans going to hide their Face from Embarrassment of the World with your bad credential gaffes to be US President.....Please stop insulting Americans they're all already tired.
That referred to an ABCNews.com posting asserting that McCain appeared to confuse Iraq and Afghanistan in a ???Good Morning America??? interview with ABC???s Diane Sawyer, who asked whether the "the situation in Afghanistan is precarious and urgent.???
McCain responded: ???I'm afraid it's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq/Pakistan border." The ABC posting added: ???Iraq and Pakistan do not share a border. Afghanistan and Pakistan do.???
Unfortunately for McCain, that wasn???t an isolated slip. Among the other lapses:
??? ???Somalia??? for ???Sudan???: As recounted in a reporter???s pool report from McCain???s Straight Talk Express bus on June 30, the senator said while discussing Darfur, a region of Sudan: "How can we bring pressure on the government of Somalia?"
Senior adviser Mark Salter corrected him: ???Sudan.???
??? ???Germany??? for ???Russia???: A YouTube clip from last year memorializes McCain referring to Vladimir Putin of Russia ??? following a trip to Germany ??? as ???President Putin of Germany.???
??? This spring, McCain said troops in Iraq were ???down to pre-surge levels??? when in fact there were 20,000 more troops than when the surge policy began.
??? Also this spring, McCain twice appeared to mistake Sunnis and Shiites, two branches of Islam that split violently.
??? In Phoenix earlier this month, McCain referred to Czechoslovakia, which has been divided since Jan. 1, 1993, into the Czech Republic and Slovakia. He also referred to Czechoslovakia during a debate in November and a radio show in April.
??? In perhaps the most curious incident, McCain said earlier this month that as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, he had tried to confuse his captors by giving the names of Pittsburgh Steelers starting players when asked to identify his squadron mates. McCain has told the story many times over the years ??? but always correctly referred to the names he gave as members of the Green Bay Packers-
Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/23/2008 5:35:34 AM
Obama: [T]he objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with people like President Karzai or Prime Minister Maliki or President Sarkozy or others who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to 10 years.
You thought Bush shat all over the constitution. Obama is already talking of taking out an Amendment....-
Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 07/23/2008 7:30:59 AM
Which amendment would that be? Like I said, Obama is making McCain "change" his agenda. If you are on the defensive the whole summer, how does that qualify you to be POTUS? McCain can't even think on his toes. I watched some of his town hall meeting and noticed he went to an inside coat pocket and felt nothing and then went to his other inside coat pocket and found his snot rag and read from it. LOL! Give me a break, getting suggestions from boogers. HAHAHAHAHA!
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/23/2008 9:03:57 AM
Nice change of subject.
Obama is supposed to be a Constitutional Scholar....so why doesn't he know about Presidential Term limits? Of does he plan on changing that too if he gets into office?
I won't tell you which Amendment it is....you SHOULD already know....since you don't know the fundamental aspects of the US Government....yeah I'm going to trust your pick for POTUS.-
Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 07/23/2008 9:34:20 AM
I know what you were referring to but wanted you to state the Amendment about term limits. I don't know exactly which one it is, oh snap, I have to admit I don't know... boo hoo. But Raddave answered in terms of how I would have responded. Everyone knows the POTUS is an eight year term even Barack Obama. Well, maybe McCain doesn't know but he doesn't count.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/23/2008 10:53:15 AM
Sure you did....trying to save face huh? Thanks for trying to turn the issue back to McCain...can't seem to defend your guy can you?
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Posted By: raddave @ 07/23/2008 8:51:26 AM
What is wrong with what Obama said? Since he has not been sworn is as President, that means if he serves two terms, the it would be more than 8 years from now. Also, he did not say 10 years as the President of the U.S., maybe after his two terms, Obama plans to do business with the European Leaders as a Private Civilian.
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Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/23/2008 9:28:42 AM
Parse it how ever you like....I know you'll spin it however you can so that Obama doesn't look bad, but that belays the point that he is suppose to be a Constitutional Scholar...yet forgot the 22nd Amendment.....that's not something I can just parse away like you can. With all the crap Bush did, I don't want Obama to come behind and do him up one better.
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Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/23/2008 10:39:13 AM
Barack Obama's Trip abroad is as well organized, scheduled and managed as you will ever see and may just be the best you have ever seen. Whether or not you agree with his policies and his vision for the United States and consequently the world his management skills are unsurpassed by any political campaign in recent memory. It is a sure sign of how his administration will be operating when he is our next President.
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Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/23/2008 10:41:52 AM
It is a superbly orchestrated political event. How it relates to his competency to be president remains to be seen
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Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 07/23/2008 8:57:16 AM
And another thing, Obama is on top of things. He is more than knowledgeable about the war on terror as he has always supported the troops, the "coalition" of troops (we aren't alone as McCain seems to think we are), recognizing Afghanistan as the central focus on the war on terror, use of federal budget to fund the war on terror (and not the war on Iraq as Bush and McCain seem to be hell bent on maintaining). Obama knows more about the economy, using taxes properly to negotiate the future of social security, creating jobs and increasing wages, getting revenue back in order to help consumers. Obama will bring back the checks and balance that Bush and the GOP have stolen. There is so much that will need to be taken care of it's pitiful. Obama has the advisors needed to get the job done. He will bring in Cabinet members that balanced the budget years ago (before Bush ruined it), Obama is what we need right now. This is the test of what the Constitution was written for. If it fails, this country fails.
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Posted By: News and Notes @ 07/23/2008 10:39:44 AM
Obama is very bright and knowledgeable, as well as being an exceptional orator and politician. However, his ability and experience to deliver on his policies is what bothers many Obama skeptics
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Posted By: junk3555 @ 07/22/2008 3:53:26 AM
I want a drug test on Obama.
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Posted By: Davole @ 07/22/2008 5:56:56 AM
junk3555 -
Obama would probably attempt to negate any drug test results by stating that he was merely respecting a local custom while he was visiting those foreign lands.
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Posted By: NO OOOOOOOOO @ 07/22/2008 8:34:03 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ talk...what do you people think he does with all that dough you send him and he gets from corporate America? He pays off anyone who dares to expose him for anytthing negative. Take that to the bank!
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/23/2008 10:05:33 AM
No oooooo, this is silly.
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Posted By: raddave @ 07/22/2008 8:42:02 AM
I doubt he would say that. He is not Bush.
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Posted By: junk3555 @ 07/22/2008 12:25:29 PM
If I said: "All black people are drug users." I would rightfully be called a racist. But that is exactly what Obama said about his use of drugs. He takes a sterotype: "Black people use drugs" and used it to defend himself. He didn't say I wanted to get high (more honest) or I was at a party in Hawaii and it was the seventies. No he said he used drugs in some kind of (bogus) exploration of what being black is. But maybe it can be explained because his father abandoned him when he was 3 years old and he was raised by white people. Maybe he's one of those typical white people he talks about when he was discussing reverend wright. He said my grandmother is a typical racist white person.
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Posted By: IamAmerican @ 07/22/2008 1:20:53 PM
I have read through all these comments and I am amazed at the emotions by which you all express your views. As a forward thinking country, the leader of the free world, we as its people lack the internal freedom to see that change is not black or white. It shows our evolution as a people of advanced thinking and set the example for others to follow. Everyone, just take a step back and look at where we were, where we are now and then think of the future. The legacy we will leave our children. So I say WAKE UP! WE ARE AMERICANS!
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/23/2008 10:00:26 AM
Excellent comment, one of the best lately. Thanks.
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/22/2008 2:31:56 PM
ATTN......... ALL OBAMAMOHAMMEDS....BREAKING NEWS...HUSSEIN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FAKE...............
Laugh it off. Ignore it. Whatever you like. THIS WILL get MSM coverage. For the entire story go to.......
....................... http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/forensics-expert-obama-birth-certificate-is-a-forgery
Larry Johnson and others are going to FORCE an inquiry. Here is a snippet........
The following report was written for TD/NQ by Techdude, who hurried to complete it after his tires were slashed and a mutilated rabbit was found hanging by his front door. He is currently working on another exclusive follow-on report.
Who threatened Techdude, and why? And if his findings are correct, why did Barack Obama publish a fake Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) on his own website, FightTheSmears, and on DailyKos?
Well, well, well....what's up with this??? We will all find out soon. Check out the entire investigation.
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Posted By: Pia1981 @ 07/23/2008 9:49:48 AM
HR, okay, If you say laugh it off, I def. will esp since this is more ridiculous nonsense. This stuff is dumb and silly!
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Posted By: muslimsforpresidents @ 07/22/2008 3:45:38 PM
dont you just love conspiracy stories, maybe the us govt decided to crash the planes into the twin towers too, hows your boyfriend Sinclair doing? Figures, you would post hysteria since McCain is in a dire situation, no more hollyrollingpins
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