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  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/22/2008 12:01:43 AM

    OBAMA SAYS: Dont tell me words dont matter!


    OBAMA WORDS: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela -- these countries are TINY compared to the Soviet Union. They DONT pose a serious threat to us!


    TWO Days later . . .


    OBAMA WORDS: Iran is a GREAT threat! Iran is a GREAT threat (REALLY)! Iran is a GREAT threat (I AM NOT KIDDING HERE)!


    WHAT does Obama really believe?? What are we supposed to think if he tells us words DO matter and he flip flops on such a major belief issue??.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lx-QcstDcU

  • Posted By: Izziemom @ 07/21/2008 10:36:05 PM

    I've always thought Obama was the realist. And he understands Mazlo's hierarchy of needs. McCain is the ideologue, and like all ideologues he's rigid. It's alwaysa baffled me that he's seen as stronger on foreign policy. In my opinion, being an ideologue automatically makes you less credible as a leader. It clouds judgment.

    • Posted By: Davole @ 07/21/2008 11:54:03 PM

      Izziemom -

      If you call him an idealogue, then he MUST be an idealogue!

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/21/2008 11:53:13 PM

    John MCCain is a Biggest LIAR.?
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19451.htm

    check yourself HOLY....everybody already know WHO's real John MCain only People like still sleeping....Wake up !!! and smell the rose..

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/21/2008 9:05:05 PM

    So shut up......!!!! if you dont Know hispanic community

    • Posted By: josemarti @ 07/21/2008 11:14:34 PM

      Yo soy un hombre sincero de donde crece la palma.

  • Posted By: Sam Clemens @ 07/21/2008 8:17:50 AM

    Enter Your Comment Good article , The comments are crazier than expected. The wingers gnash and snarl lots of luck with that folks. It seems to be a concentrated effort to promote the oh the media gives Obama a pass theme. The fact is McCain stories are not read as much. That is why Obama dominates the news even though the corporate propaganda machine is doing its hardest. Control the media/ control the masses.

    • Posted By: Galasso @ 07/21/2008 8:29:28 AM

      This makes no sense. The corporate structure does control the media. FOX news is supporting McCain. NBC and particularly MSNBC is solidly behind Obama as are the LA Times, Newsweek, The New York Times, The Atlanta Constitution, and the Washington Post. The liberal press has become - in and of itself - a corporate structure.

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 11:07:40 PM

        That is because media mogul Rupert Murdoch supports Obama. He is the CEO and chairman of News Corporation, Rupert Murdoch has a huge stake in the world press, including dozens of newspapers, magazines, television channels and websites. Plus George Soros supports him with MOVEON.org website communications.

  • Posted By: chrispalmer2 @ 07/21/2008 11:07:31 PM

    Great article. Thank you. Restores my belief in the value of journalism to inform and engage.

  • Posted By: mrzoid @ 07/21/2008 2:21:13 AM

    Sharenews: i will conceed all of the examples you list, if you will acknowledge a list of McCains loose connections as condemnations when it is produced. i'll be honest, i dont feel ambitious enough to research said list, but im sure someone with no drinking agenda will. If you agree, respond by getting indignent.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 2:50:05 AM

      I dont care about McCain, at least not until I see what happens at the DNC. After that I may or may not depending on the VP he selects. I selectively answer some of bloggers negative aspects about McCain and either provide supporting info to counter the point or not. I am a PUMA. So I am just having fun being the devils advocate for now. : 0

      • Posted By: Davole @ 07/21/2008 10:50:29 AM

        Share -

        I can never envision you playing the "devil's" advocate.

        Your personality and style demonstrates that you are only capable of playing the "angel's" advocate!

        CMIIW

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 10:46:22 PM

          Ahhhhhhh shucks, Davole. Thanks. : - D

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/21/2008 3:16:23 AM

        The only thing I can see that will make me vote Dem this year is if McCain picks Huckabee as VP....or if the DNC has a rollcall vote and Clinton is picked....

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 4:01:46 AM

          I actually really liked Huckabee. He seemed like such a decent, respectable person, and wasnt he going to pursue the eradication of the IRS? : - )

          • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/21/2008 4:16:38 AM

            He is a religious nutjob that would do his best to eradicate the separation of church and state. I don't want a preacher anywhere near the Oval Office.
            His only positive was Chuck Norris....

            • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 4:54:44 AM

              . . . and I was surprised when Chuck Norris of all people endorsed him.

              • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 4:57:38 AM

                ..why do you think it was a good thing? Albeit I like the guy. My mom absolutely loved this actor. She has since passed on. But she watched every one of his movies.

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/21/2008 10:00:44 PM



    Nothing is more critical to Our Own National Security than assuring that future generations of leaders around the world think of America as a progressive force that will benefit their lives rather than an "evil empire" intent on dominating them and preventing them from achieving their own aspirations. Like it or not, it is this latter message that George W. Bush has sent to young people world-wide.

    The Bush years have convinced vast numbers of young people around the globe that America is the country of neo con unilateralism and preemptive war. It will be very difficult for us to change those perceptions as the current generation of young people ages and takes on responsibilities for running their countries. When it comes to public perception we will pay the price for George W. Bush for years to come. Those perceptions will damage our security for many years.

    We can't afford to lose another generation. Barack Obama's election -- especially if it is decisive -- would go some distance to shock even those in the "Bush generation" into re-evaluating the way they view America.

    In the United States, presidents are more than decision-makers and leaders. They are Chiefs of State, symbolic embodiments of the values that define our country. This week Americans -- and people around the globe -- will get a glimpse of what it would be like if Barack Obama becomes the personal embodiment of America in the 21st Century. I believe they will like what they see.


  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/21/2008 9:50:48 PM



    How can a foreign trip affect Barack Obama's domestic presidential campaign?

    Of course it doesn't hurt that on the first day of Barack Obama's journey, Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki edged very close to endorsing his plan for American troops to withdraw from Iraq. In an interview in Der Spiegel he is quoted as saying: "U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes".

    The trip will highlight the fact that it isn't just the American people who want us to leave Iraq -- all of the polls of the Iraqi people want us out as well -- and now so does the U.S.-backed Prime Minister of Iraq. That leaves Bush, McCain and the neo cons as the only people around still committed to their reckless program of keeping U.S. troops in Iraq far into the future. It puts in full relief McCain's flawed judgment when it comes to foreign policy.

    Of course, by making his first stop the front lines in Afghanistan, Obama also emphasized once again how Bush, McCain and the neo cons have taken their eye off the ball by diverting resources to an "elective" war in Iraq and away from the central front where terrorist cells intent on attacking the United States are actually organized.


  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 07/21/2008 9:38:53 PM



    As Barack Obama began his trip to the Middle East and Europe, the media was already speculating about the possibility of a gaffe. Barack Obama's travel "carries political risk," the New York Times reported, "particularly if Barack Obama makes a mistake."

    But the only foreign policy error made in the last few days came this morning on ABC's Good Morning America, when John McCain made ANOTHER geography gaffe while trying to criticize Obama's visit to Iraq. (Just last week, McCain repeatedly referred to Czechoslovakia, a country that hasn't existed since 1993.)

    Asked by Diane Sawyer whether the "the situation in Afghanistan in precarious and urgent," McCain responded: "I think it's serious. . . . It' a serious situation, but there's a lot of things we need to do. We have a lot of work to do and I'm afraid it's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq/Pakistan border."

    But as Rick Klein noted: "Iraq and Pakistan do not share a border. Afghanistan and Pakistan do."

    Extend you geographical pain with your vote for McCain


  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/21/2008 9:28:19 PM

    Please you dont even understand how to speaks spanish yet you're talking Hispanic community..get lost with your bullshit.....Im a volunteer for Hispanic Community,I know better than you HOW THEY feels right now...so go away

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/21/2008 9:04:25 PM

    I speaks 3 languages beside Spanish....you aslo as a vlounteer for Hispanic Community in my area

  • Posted By: truefan1947 @ 07/21/2008 9:01:10 PM

    Massive damage has already been done to American society by those who own and operate the economy. Candidates are representatives of the wealthy. U.S. foreign policy is run for the benefit of a few rapacious wealthy, at the expense of millions of people all over the world. Fareed knows our history, but the interpretation is in need of sharpening. Perhaps the book "The Great War For Civilisation" by Robert Fisk should be required reading for all political candidates running for public office in America.

  • Posted By: Morgan2008 @ 07/21/2008 7:59:44 PM

    Barack Obama's ego is so huge that he will surely declare himself to be a foreign policy expert after this one trip..Oh yes, I think he has already declared himself to have the best answers for foreign policy even before making the trip. Everything about Barack Obama is orchestrated publicity stunts and propaganda to try to make him seem more presidential, i.e. flashing his own presidential seal already. America needs a real person who is an experienced and qualified leader as president... not some phony egotistical novice who has manufactured propaganda and Hollywood style marketing to power grab the presidency of the USA. I hope Americans will not fall for the propaganda campaign of Barack Obama and vote for the candidate who has fought for his country and is the most qualified and experienced candidate for president of the USA. We do not have to question John McCain's allegiance to America. A democrat for McCain.

    • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/21/2008 8:55:15 PM

      Why is Obama making McCain look so bad when it comes to foreign policy. Iraq, Iran, Pakistan. The White House is taking Obama's advice. McCain said that Iraq bordered Pakistan. How come Iraq actually sits next to Iran. McCain is looking bad everyday.

    • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/21/2008 8:22:55 PM

      The Answer is NOT Obama BUT FAILS Republican Party.past policies....including LIES,FEARS tactice......are you Blind?

    • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/21/2008 8:10:03 PM

      Im One of those historical Republican for years that going to Vote Obama this fall.8 long years of Bullshit and felt Betrayed and many Republican like me Voted for Change this Fall.

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 07/21/2008 8:01:40 PM

    T he only thing McCain has been close to right on is this surge. But Obama agrees the surge has worked in terms of violence suppression. Read his OPED piece in the NY Times. But this is all McCain has to brag about and he's running it into the ground. Obama has been right on so many other aspects: initial Iraq vote, diplomacy, timeframes, where the real al Qaida fight is and the waste of almost 4200 Service men and women, countless civilians on both sides, and hundreds of $Billions on something that turned out NOT to be true. PUT MCCAIN IN OFFICE AND THIS WILL MOST LIKELY TO HAPPEN AGAIN IN IRAN.

    And by the way, if we hadn???t attacked Iraq, Sadam Hussain would still have Iran in check. That???s right, Iran thought he was a major power in the Middle East which kept Iran essentially peaceful and non aggressive. Taking him out has now changed all that.

    Worth it? I think not.

    • Posted By: Davole @ 07/21/2008 8:55:11 PM

      tiredoflies -

      Yes, I agree with the final 2 words of your post - that you "think not"!

    • Posted By: Galasso @ 07/21/2008 8:15:33 PM

      It is doubtful that Saddam could have kept Iran "in check". He sent all of his jets to Iran before the invasion, there were UN teams from UNSCOM prowling the countryside for WMD and missiles, and there was a no fly zone that was enforced. His biggest liability was the Iranian border area - especially in the South. He had no real Army left to deploy after the first Gulf War given the main desert battle tanks were destroyed and he had a big problem with an emerging Kurdish presence in the North. Please tell me how he could have intimidated Iran?

  • Posted By: Vote_For_X @ 07/19/2008 5:11:27 PM

    Let's be very clear- I enjoy Fareed's perspective on a great many issues. He is one of the true journalists left who presents a clear and reasoned argument in his writings and points of view.

    However, to all of those whose comments include "fair and balanced", "unbiased" or "objectivity" to describe the motivation behind this article- you do not know, and have likely never watched, Fareed in interviews. He is an Obama supporter.

    This is a piece designed to sway voters. A very well written piece; I enjoyed, as always, reading Fareed's perspective. However, when you don't dig deep to recognize the facts behind a point, you are misled and misinformed.

    Whether it's believing Fareed is being "objective" or that there were WMDs in Iraq, Americans as a whole need to get their facts straight before opening their mouths. Democrat, Republican or Independent- uninformed is uninformed. Do some research before you fall lockstep in line and spew uninformed "truths". We'll all be better for it.

    • Posted By: Vote_For_X @ 07/21/2008 8:52:31 PM

      Do not misinterpret my comments- Fareed is knowlegeable and does his homework. Always. As I said previously, I enjoy his work for these very reasons.

      My comments are to those who shower kudos for "fair and balanced" reporting. I do not dispute Fareed's accounting of facts. But there is plenty of subjectivity mixed in with those facts, his personal bias. Bias, by it's very nature, can not be "fair and balanced".

      He is an Obama supporter, there's nothing wrong with that in the least. But to say he's "objective" in this piece, whether I agree with him or not, is incorrect. The purpose of this piece is to present Obama in the shiniest light possible, and it was done well. It is well crafted, with just the right mix of facts and persuasion. Fair? Maybe. Balanced? Nah. Objective? Definitely not.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/19/2008 5:52:42 PM

      I cannot begin to speak for Fareed, but I imagine anyone of his background, education and perspective might have a much broader view of the world than just trying to "sway" voters here in the US.

      I think the interests expressed in this article reflect research, candid interviews, careful analysis and thoughtful commentary.

      Whatever you want to call it, this is an excellent article if you can possibly look beyond the narrow confines of the US presidential election within the physical 50 states - consider yourself a world citizen, if that's even remotely possible, and try to see our election through the lens of an overseas observer. I think that might be a better approach to reading this article - taking a worldview rather than a US-first view.

      • Posted By: PaulStewart @ 07/19/2008 7:42:08 PM

        I invite you to underline for us where the writer is making an error in his facts. I happen to think what is being said fits in with what I think about Obama. You know, I think you will be surprised when Obama is President. He is trying to get it right. Obama does not look like the traditional, but funny enough, he is the traditional. Obama is neither liberal or conservative, left wing or right wing, he is a main stream, shrewd, common sense person with a solid moral core. That is a tremendous base for leadership of America. It is what she needs.

        This is not a difficult choice for the majority of right thinking Americans. What an interesting gift.... Wake up and smell the roses.....

    • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 07/19/2008 5:33:33 PM



      I respect your point of view; he is certainly not sounding objective or about the fray as someone like Wolf Blitzer would. The point is that Zakaria is a foreign affairs expert, and when the choice is between "Bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran-McCain and someone as sober as Obama, he will indeed write more about the latter than the former. McCain is, after all, still endorsing a foreign policy approach that has been, objectively speaking, one of -if not- the largest blunders in American history. I hear your point, but these are not "uninformed truths".

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/21/2008 8:51:51 PM

    el Idioma español docente, Im el miembro de la Comunidad española en Florida. Usted sabe tuerca acerca de personas hispanas que siente, soy respetado por personas hispanas

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 07/21/2008 8:46:12 PM

    Iraqi backing of Obama plan irks the Bush White House....


    WASHINGTON - The White House expressed unhappiness Monday about Iraqi leaders' public backing for Barack Obama's troop withdrawal timetable. And it said that Baghdad may be trying to use the U.S. presidential election as leverage in talks about the future of American's military presence and obligations in the war.





    Bush last week reversed course and agreed to set a "general time horizon" for bringing home more U.S. troops, based on Iraq's ability to take care of its own security.




    Al-Maliki's spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, initially appeared to try to discredit the magazine report but on Monday he expressed hopes that U.S. combat forces could be out of Iraq by 2010, the timeframe proposed by Obama.

    Buoyed by a sharp reduction in violence, Iraqi leaders have become more assertive about the country's sovereignty, giving rise to demands for a specific plan for American forces to leave.

  • Posted By: junk3555 @ 07/21/2008 8:41:23 PM

    Another puff piece of the Obama adoring media. In reality, Obama has no foreign policy. What goes for Obama foreign policy is the cold calculation of a corrupt Chicago politician using 300 advisors for local consumption. Whatever the views of any given day will give him points to get the position of power he craves, he will present it on that day without regard to being the complete opposite of the position espoused yesterday. That's why it's so nuanced and vague. Not because he's a Realistic Idealist of Idealistic Realist but because it has to be kept vague so that it can be completely different tomorrow.

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