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  • Posted By: bcrawf2033 @ 07/21/2008 10:04:36 AM

    I think Senator Obama looks at the possibilities of all countries to achieve greater things for the good of its people, and sees the potiential they can reach. If he can encourage other nations, while setting a good example in our own Nation, then we are starting on the path to a new direction. Diplomacy will be a key component as well as strong military force where and when needed. We could all use some lessons on how to collaborate on solutions rather than beating each other over the head. For all mankind's achievements, we still have great difficulty controlling our anger and emotions. We allow the spirits of greed, power, and materialism to overwhelm us, thus making poor decisions that trouble our lives. Senator Obama is still on his fact finding mission overseas. Let's just wait and see what comes of it and observe how the rest of the world views him.

  • Posted By: lee226 @ 07/21/2008 9:58:08 AM

    I agree, we are the most obese nation in the world because we eat too much not because we do not exercise enough. We consume enough for 2 countries....the point is we want other countries to cooperate with conserving energy we have to set an example.
    What can you do for your country today beside blogging?
    I make less trips to save gas, use less water and electric. In fact many of us are doing that already.
    My temps is set on 76 and I am just fine.
    Hardly hardship.
    As for socialism it already exist in America, as for schools,libraries,social security, social programs,section 8 and so many other programs wich benefit both paries to dole out when necessary.
    Let's not forget bail outs of banks and other related financial institution.
    Let's face it we have been slipping down a slippery slope.

  • Posted By: lee226 @ 07/21/2008 9:35:45 AM

    Bush was a prime example of expertise in foreign policy. He was also behaving like a fascist not a republican. Those are people that have no manifesto but are able to infringe on the constitution for the safety of the people of course.They also call it patriot act.
    How many of you are expert on foreign policy, raise your hand or make some intelligent comments regarding a specific subject.

  • Posted By: tommyjonq @ 07/21/2008 9:27:55 AM

    neither obama nor anyone else will admit it in an election year, but he's more richard nixon than anyone else. you remember nixon's foreign policy. the baby we threw out with the bath water.

    that's the opposite of wilson. (where on earth did you get the idea he was a realist??????) you remember that wilsonian nonsense about acitvely supporting peoples' right to self-determination. in places like vietnam. and iraq. and iran.

  • Posted By: lee226 @ 07/21/2008 9:22:46 AM

    Of course we cannot expect everyone to mebrace his ideas or fall for his hope and change campaign.
    It akes some reasoning, information from unbiased sources, research, weigh the pro and con, since no candidate can please everyone and ultimately shift our vision to what is best for the country at this time and the world, since we are not isolated and have to do trade and have relation with the world at large.
    Sometime we have to use our global vision and step back from the everyday small issues that distract us to see the large picture. We also need to look at things from alternate perspectives to reach a wise decision.
    I say it takes work and preparation and ...less blogging and repeated comments that only confuse the issues.
    In the words of an old chinese philosopher -poet:
    In every word I seek the essential meaning.....
    who among us has not been guilty of superficial comment, lack of factual information, true understanding of the issues or person we talk about?
    Not many of use could say that.
    I say we need to rise above the petty arguments, ad hominem attacks and use our minds and the means available to learn before we speak.
    Sounds like I am preaching but it needed to be said.
    Keep democracy alive americans and be vigilant.

  • Posted By: funkdome @ 07/21/2008 9:22:38 AM

    "He could bash him for coddling China's dictatorship, urge him to boycott the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympics or criticize his inaction in Darfur"

    He doesn't need to. That's what Fareed and the other partisans who own the media are here for.

  • Posted By: Skypoint @ 07/21/2008 9:18:12 AM

    "Has nothing to do with the media leaning towards the left."

    What a laugh!!! The mainstream media not leaning left? You're correct, they're not leaning left, they've slammed into it! Don't fret... as a socialist, the empty suit will do well in Europe,

    Anchors don't even travel with the President. In the end, if we ever needed a prime example of the main stream media being in the tank for B.H.O., this is it!

  • Posted By: lee226 @ 07/21/2008 9:09:54 AM

    chindognyc, it is an easy answer , because Obama attracts attention and sells. He is a controversial personality, look at all the people here talking about it. If they really thought he was not important or relevant why do they spend so much time fighting it. They should ignore it and the media attention would fall.

  • Posted By: gommy goomy @ 07/21/2008 8:34:46 AM

    A survey of the Worlds' Opinion? Am I the only one who couldn't giva a Rats' Ass, what the "World thinks"? More of "The World" agrees with Obama? Yeah? And most of the world is what kind of a place? They're not FREE, they're not Capitalist. They're not Democracies. SO WHO CARES what they think. I don't know about the rest of you, but "The World" can kiss my AMERICAN ASS! We'll see how much they "think of us" when they need our HELP again. I say we STAY HOME. Let em feed their own people. Let em get their own medecines. Let em save their own people after the next Naturel Disaster. That's what I THINK.

    • Posted By: camarquez @ 07/21/2008 9:08:01 AM

      I'm sorry but you are so wrong about thw world. A decade ago we may have been able to tell the rest fo the world to kiss our a** but not anymore. China, Japan, and other countries are becoming true competition in the global marketplace, the dollar is growing increasingly weak, the media and business is more and more globalized, and we (the whole world) have a lot of work to do TOGETHER to solve the climat crisis that affects us all. Also, a country that had to borrow from China to give their own citizens tax refund check to help them deal with high gas prices because they are so dependent on foriegn oil is in no shape to be telling the entire world to kiss any part of them. We are all connected and now more than ever the U.S. needs the rest of the world almost as much as they need us. Because of the changing world and the effects of the Bush administration we are losing our pull with other coutries (ex. Saudia Arabia refusing to increase oil production for us) and we are not seen as the economic powerhouse we once were.

      I for one want a president that understands how interconnected the world is today and can intelligently research and understand the countries we are dealing with and know their limitations and problems they face; not just pushing our democracy on them, this is not always the solution. I am hopeful that if Obama is president he can help to reverse some of the world's opinions of us. Believe me, whether you think so or not, we need the world as much as they need us.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/21/2008 5:05:31 AM

    The political leadership of Europe exists at the will of the people of their respective countries. If an American President is popular with the people of Europe it makes it much easier to gain the assistance of European governments for NATO and American initiatives.

    More NATO troops in Afghanistan?
    More international help in Darfur?

    If we want to gain real international coalitions in curbing terror or stopping genocide it is far easier if the people of democratic countries are supportive of our President.
    European leaders have to meet with US Presidents but the people don't have to turn out to see a Presidential candidate. The fact that they will is an incredibly powerful image and statement that gives a clear signal to the German, French and British leadership that the folks who elect them are not going to toss them our if they suppor any intitiative supported by Obama.

    This isn't about some selfish rock star bullshit. It's about an uncommonly well informed electorate turning out to show support for an uncommonly popular US politician. It is a stark contrast with John McCain and Republicans.

    US arrogance really pisses off Europeans and Obama's willingness to address the German, French and British people - to visit with them and speak to them directly is not only advisible - it is imperative.

    I can't believe anyone would see this as a negative outside of reactionary Republicans who should rightfully be scared shitless of how powerful this move is. McCain couldn't fill a beer garden with free beer and a polka band.

    Republicans 2 things to offer What to FEAR and Who to BLAME

    • Posted By: Galasso @ 07/21/2008 8:51:01 AM

      Did a sailor steal your girlfriend or beat you at poker? Just curious because of the frequent irrational attacks on McCain. If you think that Obama's one appearance in Europe is the standard of proof to the Europeans that the US now has a President in-waiting who will be more to their liking - you are probably correct. Image - not substance - is the key to success these days. Obama is also playing to a crowd who very likely does not remember Kennedy's address in Berlin in the early 60's and Obama is going to attempt to replicate it. For those of us who remember that extraordinary JFK speech, Obama's European vacation is a tawdry Elvis impersonation compared to what JFK accomplished in the wake of WWII when the people in Berlin were still living in fear and uncertainty. Today there is no wall and Europe is prosperous. There is a huge difference almost half a century later. Obama's acompanying press groupies will surely gauge it as having no historical precedent, however.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/21/2008 5:14:07 AM

      Your really funny....I really like your line about Obama talking to "them" directly....didn't you know that Obama isn't taking questions from the foreign Press? It might hurt him to get asked real questions, not the softball's people like Chris Mathews ask.

      Both parties spread Fear and Blame to get their own ends....your a lier by omission. Obama isn't above using FEAR to get what he wants.

      • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/21/2008 8:34:23 AM

        What kind of questions would you ask him?

  • Posted By: TCAM053 @ 07/20/2008 6:41:23 PM

    OBAMA RULES #1

    • Posted By: ben nevis @ 07/20/2008 7:10:40 PM

      A King rules, America needs someone who can LEAD. Obama doesn't have the "Right Stuff". IF Obama is elected this nation will be sucked into a whirlpool of chaos.

      • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/20/2008 8:53:52 PM

        How, so far everything that he said we should do, the White House has followed. Case closed.

        • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/20/2008 10:05:59 PM

          Please can you elaborate?

          • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/21/2008 12:16:38 AM

            Meeting with Iranian officials with no pre-conditions. Need more?

            • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/21/2008 1:48:59 AM

              Ha ha are you serious, that's all you have?
              No preconditions are you serious? There are plenty of conditions and plus Obama wants Presidential level talks....I have yet to see Bush with Ahmenedijad. Please if you have a rebuttal post some links, because you have been known to lie when it suits you.

              • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/21/2008 8:42:17 AM

                I have never lied on this site. You are known for making up stories in your dark mind. Just the fact that you cannot accept that the White House is following Obama's advise tells me that you and sharenews both live in that one room shack.

  • Posted By: skpjonny @ 07/21/2008 8:04:56 AM

    Why are you surprised that a republican should seem idealistic and morally rigid with regards to anything, let alone foreign policy, when they have been catering to and influenced by the religious right for a generation? One could hardly find a less pragmatic, more idealistically black and white group in this country.

  • Posted By: resikrup @ 07/21/2008 7:54:54 AM

    OK We Get It you talk to Obama..do you have to mention it over and over? Does the association with the celeb make you more important?

  • Posted By: resikrup @ 07/21/2008 7:53:30 AM

    OK We Get It you spoke with Obama..do you have to mention it over and over? Do you feel the association makes you more important?

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 12:53:56 AM

    OBAMA On Saddam Hussein

    Now let me be clear. I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. . . The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

    But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his NEIGHBORS (errrrp. Obama ignores for eg that Saddam fired scuds at Israel and was paying $25k to the family of each PLO suicide bomber!!). . . .

    ...and that in concert with the international community he (Saddam) can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he FALLS AWAY INTO THE DUSTBIN OF HISTORY.(Obama steelings words from speeches again! This is a lift from Bush Sept 01 speech to congress)

    • Posted By: mrzoid @ 07/21/2008 2:28:34 AM

      I'll give that to you, Obama is stating the obvious. Not to mention, do you realize what is one of Isreal's main exports is? Arms. Arms to hostile nations. You make your money off what you're good at, and Isreal is good at defense. Its a shame that people like you dont want to recognize the type of world we live in. Democrats think the world should be a happy and peaceful place; republicans think that the world is a dangerous place, but we (america and its "allies" do nothing to perpetuate it being so. Both are living in a dream world. Capitalism is what moves the global market, and by any means nessecary, own it, embrace it, or ignore it till it runs you over.

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 3:02:07 AM

        I dont want to recognize the world we live in? Why the heck do you think I thought this flip flop of Obama was scary below? Did you have a chance to read the other postings about IRAN being a realistic threat if they got their hands on a nuclear bomb(s) than any of the other countries that have that capability? Nevermind, I will go look and see.

        OBAMA SAYS: Dont tell me words dont matter!


        OBAMA WORDS: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela -- these countries are TINY compared to the Soviet Union. They DONT pose a serious threat to us!


        TWO Days later . . .


        OBAMA WORDS: Iran is a GREAT threat! Iran is a GREAT threat (REALLY)! Iran is a GREAT threat (I AM NOT KIDDING HERE)!


        WHAT does Obama really believe?? What are we supposed to think if he tells us words DO matter and he flip flops on such a major belief issue??.


        • Posted By: mrzoid @ 07/21/2008 7:22:14 AM

          I love the flip-flop stuff. I like it most when partisan whiners pretend that their representatives arent doing it as well. Iran being a legitt threat? Yes, they are a threat. They have no intercontinental missle capability, but they are a threat none the less. Do you really think that they are less of a threat than isreal to the regional peace though? I hate to drop this on you, but if you havent read between the lines yet, Isreal has nuclear weapons. Iran is run by slippery bastards, but what real threat does that pose to America? Besides, unless you're planning to go fight the Iranians if John McCain gets into ofice and is so inclined to declare war, then piss off. Its always the people that wont go risk their own lives that talk so passionatly about what we must do about "threats".

  • Posted By: joe1022joe @ 07/21/2008 6:59:13 AM

    Puff, puff, puff, puff piece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obama, Obama, Obama. Have I told you about Obama, Obama. Well, Obama, OOObama!!!!!! By the way, I haven't told you all about Obama. And finally, Obama, Obama, and Obama. Yeah!!!!Obama!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: JamesS @ 07/21/2008 6:55:21 AM

    So Obama's worldview basically is the best of both conservatism and liberalism. How convienent for Zakaria to make him so. True is Obama is naive and inexperienced and has the gaffes to prove it. This article is one of the bigger puff pieces that I have read about Obama and that is saying something.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/21/2008 5:02:49 AM

    The political leadership of Europe exists at the will of the people of their respective countries. If an American President is popular with the people of Europe it makes it much easier to gain the assistance of European governments for NATO and American initiatives.

    More NATO troops in Afghanistan?
    More international help in Darfur?

    If we want to gain real international coalitions in curbing terror or stopping genocide it is far easier if the people of democratic countries are supportive of our President.
    European leaders have to meet with US Presidents but the people don't have to turn out to see a Presidential candidate. The fact that they will is an incredibly powerful image and statement that gives a clear signal to the German, French and British leadership that the folks who elect them are not going to toss them our if they suppor any intitiative supported by Obama.

    This isn't about some selfish rock star bullshit. It's about an uncommonly well informed electorate turning out to show support for an uncommonly popular US politician. It is a stark contrast with John McCain and Republicans.

    US arrogance really pisses off Europeans and Obama's willingness to address the German, French and British people - to visit with them and speak to them directly is not only advisible - it is imperative.

    I can't believe anyone would see this as a negative outside of reactionary Republicans who should rightfully be scared shitless of how powerful this move is. McCain couldn't fill a beer garden with free beer and a polka band.

    Republicans 2 things to offer What to FEAR and Who to BLAME

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/20/2008 11:38:20 PM


    NBC News
    THE SURGE SUCCEEDS: McCain was Right! Obama was Dead Wrong
    Chris Matthews
    MAY 30, 2008

    CHRIS MATTHEWS QUESTION TO DAVID AXLEROD, OBAMAS CHIEF STRATEGIST
    Do you know . . . , do you know whether Senator Obama, given his position in the Senate, uh, on the FOREIGN RELATIONS Committee, do you know whether he thinks there has been progress made in Iraq . . because anecdotal evidence would tell you people returning, soldiers returning from Iraq, people, non-governmental people who have been in Iraq come back and say there actually has been progress made within the last year. Do you know what he (OBAMA) thinks about that?

    AXLERODS ANSWER (MAY 30, 2008)
    I think what he, what he said was, that theres been, uh, uh, the . . . I mean, he never disputed (? ? ?) the fact that if, that if you throw, uh, uh, a, a, a surge of American soldiers in an area that you can , uh, make a difference.

    OBAMA . ..REGARDING THE SURGE (JAN. 14, 2007)
    We cannot impose a military solution on what has effectively become a Civil war, and until we acknowledge that reality, uh, we can send 15,000 more troops, 20,000 more troops, 30,000 more troops, uh, I dont know any, uh, expert on the region or any military officer that I have spoken to, uh, privately, that believes that that is going to make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground.


    THE REAL DEAL: McCain was RIGHT. Obama was DEAD WRONG.

    Just imagine where we would be with the War in Iraq if Barack Obama was President?!


    ABOVE INTERVIEW ON VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4vlBgh7KLg

    • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/21/2008 12:13:50 AM

      sharenews, you have some real problems. You are writing their comments word for word. You must live in a shack by yourself. Come with something better.

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 12:26:30 AM

        Talk about caught in a lie. Something better? LOL. This one was excellent. : - )

        • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/21/2008 1:18:11 AM

          sharenews, the White House is following Obama's advise.

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 3:15:23 AM

            May be . . . Maybe not. But I will continue to do what it takes to make people aware that he is just not the most qualified candidate . And if he gets in, so be it. I can at least say that I tried to make people aware of why I feel he is the most inexperienced, lack of accomplished democratic President to ever get in the White House. It is too bad, cuz if a black man were to be the first President I would have wanted that person to have the resume to have earned it, maybe like, lets say, Colin Powell. Guess we will see what plays out moving forward toward the DNC and ultimately the GE.

            • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 3:25:38 AM

              Sorry, my original response was to (what I thought) was you saying that Obama would get into the White House (I read your post too fast).

              Here is a great response to your question that captures the answer perfectly. S/he is one of this sites best (well spoken) bloggers, IELeibowtiz. S/he said it best:

              Uh, you got it all backwards:

              Bush has been engaging in diplomacy with Iran through back channels, the UN, and in collaboration with the European Union, Russia, and China before Obama started bloviating about it. Bush has stated repeatedly that he prefers a diplomatic solution while not taking other options off of the table should that one fail. What he has refused to do, though, and what Obama originally wanted, is unconditional face-to-face meetings between the American and Iranian heads of state. Obama has since backed off his insistence on meeting with Ahmadinejad without conditions.

              As for Afghanistan, Obama has been forced to recognize that the surge in Iraq did not fail like he predicted. He doesnt want to admit that fact, but his wanting what is in essence a surge in Afghanistan is tacit admission that he was wrong. McCain wanting to have a surge in troops in Afghanistan, though, is no surprise. McCain was a supporter of the surge in Iraq from the time it was announced, and now that the surge is ending successfully, it is natural for McCain want to deploy a surge in Afghanistan.

              What is interesting now is that Obama is subtly shifting his positions to be closer to those already held by Bush and McCain, yet his supporters think that these are brand new ideas that he just came up with on his own.

              • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/21/2008 3:28:05 AM

                Ha ha great minds think alike....I was 2 seconds later than you though.....

                • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 4:51:58 AM

                  Zombie, I figured you would be. LMAO. : - )

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 3:27:44 AM

            I misread your statement first time around. See my second response below. : - )

          • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/21/2008 3:25:40 AM

            Yeah right, begs the question why do Bush and Obama agree? That should be antithesis to Dems to agree with Bush....but the answer is simple. Obama has moved so far to the right since June that his stance as morphed into what Bush has always said....now Obama is trying to take credit for it...which is his MO.
            Look at FISA, Faith Based Initiatives, Gun Ban....Obama has moved so far Right on those Issues...he is voting with Bush on them....

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 12:30:29 AM

        The uh's in Axlerods response to Chris Matthews especially were added for effect . . . he was all over the place back paddling. LOL

  • Posted By: All4America @ 07/20/2008 11:58:16 PM

    Mr. Zakaria, what a piece of trash journalism you've written! It is simply a propaganda piece for the Obama candidacy. It seems Newsweek as a whole has lost any remaining traces of journalistic objectivity.

    • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/21/2008 12:11:57 AM

      How would this article be a bad thing. You really need help.

      • Posted By: druked @ 07/21/2008 12:50:43 AM

        You need help chindognyc....getting your head out of your ***. Think for yourself. The article is clearly biased and I've been reading Newsweek for many years, they are one of many "news organizations" that has lost all journalistic objectivity.

        • Posted By: chindognyc @ 07/21/2008 1:17:10 AM

          Like I said, it is the truth and your just mad.

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/21/2008 4:49:10 AM

            Biased, biased, biased. NoDoubtAboutIt!!!!!!

        • Posted By: babelfisher14 @ 07/21/2008 1:08:51 AM

          Care to point out where anything in this article is inaccurate? You can't, because it's all true. Just because you wish it were false doesn't make it so.

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