McCain ad says Obama's the guy to thank for emptying our wallets at the filling station. We say that's ridiculous.
Comment: mcnasty is a fool drilling will not solve anything except make the oil companys richer and california poorer.
Comment: Ms Novak, with all due respect, your analysis is lame. It is absolutely true that gas prices are rising due to a decrease in supplies. Of the two candidates, McCain is pushing for opening up new drilling to increase oil supply. The price of oil on the open market would drop immediately if America decided to drill. I conceed that we don't know how much it would drop or for how long. But the point is this: one candidate is pushing for opening up more oil supplies, and one candidate wants us to tune our car and fill our tires. Your assertion that McCain is blaming Obama solely for this predicament is specious. You should get out of the fact checking business and start campaigning hoestly for Obama.
Comment: Planet is in Peril. Ice bergs are melting. Polar bears have reached the endangered species list. Water levels are rising. Weather storms and natural disasters are happening with frequency. Our atmostphere is being destroyed and we are the ones who have destroyed it.
So what is John McCains response to this global catastrophy? "Lets dig for more oil"
What will it take for stubborn politicians to WAKE UP and realize that the US MUST be responsible and work toward terminating our reliance on oil for energy. We don't have a choice any more. We must ACT NOW.
This idea of DIGGING for MORE oil is an absolute DISGRACE and IRRESPONSIBLE!
Comment: Planet is in Peril. Ice bergs are melting. Polar bears have reached the endangered species list. Water levels are rising. Weather storms and natural disasters are happening with frequency. Our atmostphere is being destroyed and we are the ones who have destroyed it.
So what is John McCains response to this global catastrophy? "Lets dig for more oil"
What will it take for stubborn politicians to WAKE UP and realize that the US MUST be responsible and work toward terminating our reliance on oil for energy. We don't have a choice any more. We must ACT NOW.
This idea of DIGGING for MORE oil is an absolute DISGRACE and IRRESPONSIBLE!
Comment: Get over it - Obama placed false or misleading ads out on Hillary as well - what did you guys do for those -
Oh Ya - Obama advertises with you still I see.
Comment: OMGcheck out what CornHolyO posted...lol sick.
Posted By: HolyRoller @ 07/26/2008 12:36:01 AM
Comment: Got ya'll some more Handsome jokes. I can't stop masturbating. Maybe I'll make this a daily post..............
Q. Why will Bill Oriley vote for Barack Obama?
A. He saw that three pointer and thought there was "no spin".
Q. Why will sharks vote for Barack Obama?
A. Cause Obama already fed them Hillary, now it's McCain...a much better year for meat.
Q. How will Osama Bin Laden vote for John McCain?
A. From hte ranch in Crawford TX
Q. Why will Britney Spears vote for John McCain?
A. Becuase he father her another child and then left her like his first wife
guess that Viagra is working out for John...he was quoted saying..."whoops, I did it again".
Q. What do McCain and Bush have in common?
A. Wait their not the same person?
Q. Why doesn't McCain drink Bud?
A. He prefers BUSH.
Q. Why wouldn't McCain support the American troops?
A. He said he forgot there were any "heros" except himself.
NOBAMA!!!
Extra:
Larry Sinclair submitted this one....
What do EXXON and HolyRoller have in common?
A: Niether one knows how to handle their oil, but they both like "drilling".
Comment: Obama's troop-cut policy gets support from the Iraqi government
Comment: and as of yesterday, so does John McCain...
Comment: No single American president has had all the experience to be president during their first term or even in their second term.. The difference between them is their sense of judgement and who they chose as their advisors. In this reagard Obama is far ahead of McCain.
Comment: Here if the answer, if I may. THE SURGE HAS NOT WORKED if it has WHY ARE WE STILL THERE?
The bigger issue is what if?
"IF" McCain and Bush had NOT abandonedour troops in Afghanistan to go to Iraq. "IF" we had"stayed the course" in Afghanistan and defeated Al Qaeda there captured Bin Laden, and depleatedthe Taliban. Then went to Iraq, taken Sadam down, and got the hell out, it was not until the unexpected appearence of...Al Qaeda, causing the need for more troops, which we should have had to begin with and would have had if not fighting two wars, the surge is a DIRECT reflection of the BAD JUDGMENT of both McCain and Bush.
Leaving Afghanistan was the biggest and most costly mistake Bush and McCain have made (imho). The cost of lives and money could have been greatly reduced, if McCain and Bush had better judgment on Afghanistan, which McCain STILL will not talk about, and when he does, he sound like Obama...lol
There is why we needed a "surge" and why Al Qaeda is now stronger in Afghanistan, the FAILURE OF MCCAIN/BUSH MILITARY POLICIES.
Comment: McCain said America has succeeded in Iraq because of the surge. Well was the surge the reason for us to go to Iraq to loose over 4000 men and women in iniform? McCain should tell us why he voted for the war and define the meaning of success in Iraq. Al Queda is still strong. Does this translate as a success?
Comment: McCain is confused. I think he is too old.
Comment: Yeah how does Obama convert the racists and the chickenhearted of this country, concerned only of the WMDs and the "brown boogeymen" who will get you at 3am, what to do what to do. You se 80% of America believes that we are going in the WRONG direction, which McCain offers more of. Paint it with any brush you like and deny with all your might, it boils down to race, we ALL know it, we ALL see it, it's a clear as crystal. Not hispanics, Not blacks, Not women, Not YOUNGER WHITE voters, just the old crowd, the ones who swallowed but did not accept the "civil rights movement, those who say they don't like Obama because he's a "Muslim" and that's laughable, the word MUSLIM has simply taken the place of another word that is no longer acceptable to the public, not that it ever really was, but for a time, the time of this ONE group of OLDER WHITE MEN, you could use that other word and hate for the color of skin, that time is now gone. A new hatered has come and it's not what they want, it's what they can get away with, SO, they (older white men) don't hate him because he's black, nope, they hate him becuase he's Muslim, and they'll barelyadmit to that, they'll have some other bullsh!t excuse, "Experience" Obama has experienced more in his life that qualifies him to relate to TRUE Americans than some born with a silver spoon up his a$$, my daddy is an admiral, my wife is a billionaire, wanna and self procliamed "hero". Who has NEVER had to want for anything.
What Obama may lack in "experience" he MORE than makes up for in "INTELLIGENCE" I hear nobody arguing his intalligence, especially not 894th out of 899 McCain.
Obama also TRULY UNDERSTANDS diplomacy, not as McCain or Bush see it...that stupid step you have to pretend to go through before you bomb bomb somebody, but that diplomacy SAVES LIVES, American and foreign. Now I know that some of you blood thirsty chicken hawks think hey as long as more of them die than do Americans, we win, tell that to the nearly 4500 families that have lost their loved one in what John McCain described as a "WAR FOR OIL".
Obama has ALWAYS maintained that the REALwar America should be engaged in is in Afghanistan, where those who attacked us make base. That war has been ignored by Bush and McCain for years, it was only a week ago that McCain first mentioned Afghanistan, pitty. I guess Bin Laden is NOT a priority for McCain or Bush for that matter.
Obama has dignity, he has and still sticks to his character, where as McCain SWORE he wanted a "clean" campaign, at the first sign of his impending doom, he resorts to stopping just short of calling Obama a traitor...nice and clean, and how does Obama respond..."I feel sorry for John McCain". No mud, no name calling, as that is the McCian way of campaigning as is evident by his adds, his words, his actions, brought forth from his DESPERATION.
Good day ;)
Comment: Your eyes see the truth in such a way I cannot disagree with you at all. Thank you.
Comment: Wow, thank you ;)
Comment: What exactly is a "neoliberal" Jill from Florida? I would be interested in hearing your explanation of what i am supposed to be. I don't remember any old school liberals that have abandoned their party because of any new ideals. However i do remember Barry Goldwater's son mentioning recently that his father would have had absolutely nothing to do with modern neocons and the Republican party. Fascist sycophantic schill!
Comment: Experience only counts if you HAVE IT!, McCain has experience doing propaganda fims and sitting in a cell, oh yeah and crashing fighter jets lol. He also has a TON of EXPERIENCE turnig his BACK on POWs, VETs, and OUR TROOPS...Drillin and Killin 08 the McCainBush slogan.
Remember that McCain challenged Obama to travel, go to Iraq, yes McCain said Iraq, not the other stuff (Afghanistan Isreal, rest of the world), because all McCain see is IRAQ and not the other issues abroad...whoops sorry John, I like Obama, feel sorry for you ;)
Comment: Experience only counts if you HAVE IT!, McCain has experience doing propaganda fims and sitting in a cell, oh yeah and crashing fighter jets lol. He also has a TON of EXPERIENCE turnig his BACK on POWs, VETs, and OUR TROOPS...Drillin and Killin 08 the McCainBush slogan.
Remember that McCain challenged Obama to travel, go to Iraq, yes McCain said Iraq, not the other stuff (Afghanistan Isreal, rest of the world), because all McCain see is IRAQ and not eh other issues abroad...whoops sorry John, I like Obama, feel sorry for you ;)
Comment: Uncertainty causes huge price swings in commodity markets. WAR causes uncertainty. Bush's Iraq war is the main reason for escalating oil prices. BLAME BUSH! He started this war that has no purpose other than to protect Israel. We're paying for the war...1 trillion and counting...and we're paying higher gas prices because of the war...thanks W.
Comment: I can't help but laugh at how Newsweek reacts every time their canidate is exposed. I've seen the ad, and the point is not to lay the entire situation at Obama's feet, but to point out the difference of opinion between the two canidates. One is for drilling here at home, the other is against it. How one is for lifting the federal tax on gas, while the other isn't.
What I find funny is how people think one or the other of these two will make any difference. I see them both as the same. One is full of donkey dung and the other full of elephant dung............and so many Americans seem excited to be covered with one or the other.
I see higher gas prices as a blessing myself. I recently got the best deal I've ever gotten on a full size SUV, because I can afford the gas for it and car dealers are desperate to get rid of them.
So face the facts, it really doesn't matter which of these two gets elected. They are both going to continue to rob us blind with taxes and support their particular party's agenda. So the real question is, do you want to be buried in donkey dung, or elephant dung. Either way it's a smelly situation and a sad day in American politics!
Comment: Lets take a quick look at McCain's "qualifications, k ;)
Believes in 15yrs gone countries still existing
Thinks Iraq borders Pakistan
Until three weeks ago did NOT know what a KURD was (has since forgotten)
Does not know the difference between sunni and shiite (shia)
had 20hrs of combat "experience" in which time he crashed 5 fighter jets, and then was shot down.
did 32 propaganda films for the VC
Lied to Amerixcas POWs about remaining prisoners in VN.
LIED to POWs when he swore to NEVER use his "status" for political gain.
Does NOT support US TROOPS or THIER FAMILIES, as shown by his NO VOTE on the NEW GI BILL.
could go on but even half of what I listed makes my point ;)
Drillin and Killin 08..McCain/Bush slogan ;)
Comment: Isn't the key phrase "no end in sight..."???
And doesn't the "some" who are blocking the vote on lifting the ban include Obama?
The threat of increased production here should help bring oil prices down, or at least help stabilize them.
Comment: Hey genius, then let the US refineries run at 100% rather than 85%...hmmm
lifting bans and taxes will do NOTHING TO GAS PRICES...if it ever did impact prices it would not be for years, and only by a few cents, whodo you think will pay the oild companies to find the oil, to build the rigs, to drill for teh oil, to ship the oil, to refine the oil, to truck the oil, who's paying for that, you think big oil is gonna pick up the tab?
WAKE UP PLEASE, be a shepard not a sheep.
Comment: I think that the people behind McCain campaign is as ignorant as he is Obama has nothing to do with high gas prices thats ridiculous and proves the desperation of McCain and his entire bunch of idiots because they know they will loose this election WE NEED CHANGE
Comment: McCain is wrong. Obama hasn't done anything, and he didn't cause gas prices to go up. Period. Obama is smoke and mirrors and is clearly not influentual enough to cause gas prices to go up. He can't even get 50% of his party to vote for him. He's the media darling who's done no wrong and no right. He's done nothing.
Comment: Mr McCain, Desperation is a stinky perfume....and you reak of it ;)
Comment: Well said Captain. In-fighting just helps our adversaries. It pits us one against another and tells the world we are one nation divided not united. Let's stop the bickering...no matter who wins in November.
Comment: people, people, people.... Let's all calm down. Put yourself in their shoes. I'm sure everyone involved is trying to do the right thing for ALL of us. But things are never as easy as 'All ya Gotta Do'. These issues are complex and deeply entrenched in the fabric of our culture, our infrastructure and our expectations. Inflation is never welcome, but is inevitable. Perhaps a better course would be a cooperative dialog to an achievable end. Like conserving coupled with exploration, Alternative fuel develoment with better fuel economy. Better paying jobs with cost cutting iniatives. Sniping at each other will not solve our problems or move us in a positive direction. It simply brings out the worst in all of us. Let band together and watch each others back. Lets make a little room in our minds for another viewpoint. Let's support our country and it's leaders because they are doing the best job they can within the realities that exist. Want a stronger america, buy what your neighbor builds, Stop buying 'CHINA' and stop thinking it's all about you. It's all about US. JFK said it best. 'Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country' I'll start, will you?
Comment: This is so not true. We all know that the gas prices are to be blamed on BUSH.......
Comment: That's really lame. And the results have just been posted for the 2008 Presidential Election Weekly Poll and Vice President Weekly Poll. See what America thinks at http://www.votenic.com
Comment: If the neoliberals are giving out electric cars to all of the 300 million US citizens TODAY, then, yes - we don't need to open up drilling or find alternative energy for TRANSPORTATION. Until that happens, WE NEED A SHORT and LONG RANGE PLAN. Short term - OIL SHALE. Long term - Offshore drilling for natural gas - US automakers converting engines to NATURAL GAS.
Comment: Neoliberal??? That's a new one, posted by a REACTIONARY Consevative...
IT's shear folly to think that by allowing those flag-waiving oil barons, who really couldn't care about the USA, the green light to drill for domestic oil is going to solve ANY energy crisis. Put youself in their position---After spending the money to extricate the crude, then to refine it into gasoline, would you then put it on a market that fetches $4 of $5 per gallon, OR would you ship it off to those markets that are paying $8 or $9 per gallon? NO Brainer!!!
Comment: basedrum777:
How are we going to wean off the fossil fuels for transportation energy? Our airplanes certainly cannot be run by electricity. We need to become dependent on DOMESTIC energy - not FOREIGN. The neoliberals are NOT coming up with any short or long ranged TRANSPORTATION energy.
Rather than come up with viable solutions that will result in short-term and long-term plans for independence, they block everything. Since Canada has developed a cost-effective method to extract oil from sandy oil, maybe we could HIRE Canada to develop a similar method to extract oil from oil shale. That would result in as close to an immediate solution as we can get. In the meantime, we could do what T Boone Pickens recommends - offshore drilling of NATURAL GAS - which can become our ALTERNATIVE energy for the big rigs, boats, and airplanes.
Cannot the neoliberals EVER agree with anyone that solutions can be achieved? The neoliberals do NOT have the US people's best interest in mind - and their solution to high gas prices is the best example of how out-of-touch they are with the people.
Comment: More drilling is NOT the solution The oil companies are only drilling on 20% of the areas available for exploration. Lets lease them more acres for them not to drill on. Very viable solution! Unless you have a brain!
Even George Bush has admitted that opening up more acreage for drilling is smoke and mirrors. Come up with some REAL solutions before you spout this nonsense!
Comment: There is only one problem with your comments and I agree with most of them!!
However, the oil companies do not want to drill for gas or to extract from oil shale because it is not as profitable for them!!! They already have permits to drill where they haven't even started yet; why???
because they can keep their profit margin up with less rigs!!
We need wind and solar and gas for alternate energy to possibly reduce our appetite for oil. But as long as the oil companies and their backers get what they want, we will never get on the road to being weaned!!!
So don't just blame liberals, darlin'; there are more than enough GOP involved in big oil!!!!!!!!!!!
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Comment: Drilling in our protected areas, which we won't see the results of for years, is only a band-aid. THE WORLD IS RUNNING OUT OF OIL, PERIOD. Stop focusing on a brief, inadequate stop-gap.
Comment: I don't agree that we need to try to drill out of this problem. To suggest that we start drilling in areas which will never be rehabilitated from the destruction that drilling causes for oil that won't be pumped for 10 years (even giving you some time there since most say more than that) if ever is deplorable. You guys mentioned Clinton not allowing for drilling. Why stop there? How about Bush I, or Reagan, or Carter or the presidents before then? How about we concentrate on lowering our usage before we go on what amounts to a wild chase looking for something that may or may not yield results? Why are republicans so against the idea that restraint may be the best path to follow? Stock in big oil possibly? They have had the largest profits in history and no argument that its not a real profit will work because I audit some of them. Its real money.
Comment: While the neoliberal Democrats continue to WHINE about how drilling will not result in any usable oil for 10 to 28 years (2030), the only solutions they provide are alternatives for electric energy and electric cars.
18 wheelers, airplane, boats cannot operate on electricity. The neoliberal Democrats have NO solution for TRANSPORTATION energy, and refuse to negotiate on it. They feel it would be better for the people to walk, ride bicycles or drive electric cars, so the transportation energy can be used exclusively by the WISE neoliberals for their personal consumption.
Comment: Correction: " ... for 10 to 22 years (2030)
Comment: Erik_001:
Believe me that I AM for alternative energy and renewable energy. Something should have been done 25 years ago, but most funding was stopped. We are 2 1/2 decades BEHIND because of it.
While we stopped funding on oil shale, Canada continued research in sandy oil (similar procedure of extraction.) the majority of Canada's oil comes from sandy oil.
In the 70's and early 80's, funding was provided for ethanol and coal gasification. In the Great Plains, ethanol has been available and USED since the 70's. North Dakota has had an operating coal gasification plant since the early 80's. Currently, the western part of ND is booming with coal mining (surface) and oil drilling, brought on by the price of oil.
Comment: And, how long will it take to convert the 18 wheeler engines?
Comment: Dinosaurs drill; it has been shown by current research that algae can supply all of USA transportation needs. Algae double in 24 hours. No crop land needed, just brackish water, light and CO2 ands limited space. A new technology that could start by keeping those semi trucks running costing about $2 per gallon to produce.
Comment: Considering that Obama has chosen the neoliberal Democrats WHO ARE AGAINST ANY US PRODUCED FOSSIL FUELS as his think tank team, you can expect gas prices to double without ANY relief.
Just as Obama thinks he needs to tell us what kind of vehicle we NEED to drive, that our kids NEED to learn Spanish, he believes that we will ONLY want renewable energy if we CANNOT AFFORD fossil fuels. In other words, Obama and his neoliberal Democrats think we have no common sense and are complete idiots. And, based on comments made by some Obama supporters - they are correct about his followers.
Comment: T Boone Pickens for POTUS. He is the only one whose concern is FOR AMERICA by AMERICANS. He WANTS the US to be powered by AMERICAN produced energy.
We have to be weaned off the oil. The neoliberals are against the Offshore Drilling for Natural Gas too. Just how do the neoliberal Democrats EXPECT our heavy duty trucks to operate? Or, do they expect there to be NO trucking? How is an 18-wheeler going to distribute the electric cars without comparable fuel? How short-sighted they truly are!!
Comment: NEWSWEEK----
It's bad enough that the media is giving Obama a HUGEEEEE amount of excessive good coverage but you now find it necessary to post negative or questionable articles about McCain. Could it be that you are getting concerned because you are not seeing as many pro Obama comments/posts as you are use to seeing?
Why don't you report on Obama not wanting to admit that the surge is working and instead of giving credit to our men and women who are fighting he would rather attribute a lot of "nonsense" as reasons to why there's reduction in violence instead of attributing the success to the sacrifice, hard work and dedication of our troops!!
The news coverage is so biased and fake that it is ridiculous. Newsweek, are you REALLY in the tank for Obama or are you scared to do some real reporting on him because you don't want to be labeled a racist paper?! I am sure your researchers found out Obama is a huge fraud and possibly more, why on earth do you refuse to be objectional and report your findings instead of being a cheerleader!!??
Comment: And, how is the Democratic proposed $0.10 per gallon increased federal gas/diesel tax going to HELP keep the cost of fuel down?
Yes, we need to reduce consumption, but contrary to neoliberal Democratic solutions - we CANNOT STOP all consumption today. As T Boone Pickens stated yesterday in the Senate hearings, we cannot go to Page 2 before we finish Page 1.
It was the neoliberal Democrats who stopped most funding for alternative energy and renewable energy research back in the early 1980's - the same neoliberals who are on Obama's nation of advisers.
Comment: Shouldn't Obama have known 10 years ago that we should have started drilling? He should have been screaming out for increasing our domestic oil production since he was in Illinois state senate.
Oh, that's right, he is only against issues, not for them.
Comment: THAT GOES TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH YOU KNOW. HE WASN'T A SENATOR 10 YEARS AGO. ALL OF YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU JUST BELIEVE WHAT PEOPLE SAY TO YOU. USE YOUR BRAINS SEARCH, SEARCH, SEARCH, SEARCH. AMERICA NEEDS SMART PEOPLE.
Comment: an entire article on a 30 second ad? I think the author missed the whole point of the ad. lousy 'reporting'.
you had to break down a 30 second ad? seriously????
Comment: I can't believe an article like this gets on Newsweek ... especially with such substantiated "debunks" like ... "Not true. The federal government's estimate is that if the moratorium on offshore drilling were lifted today, it would be 2030 before we'd see a noticeable effect on supply and prices.
Oh! The federal gov't said is so it must be true. What is this, The New York Times?
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Comment: CactusRuss
do nothing? No How about we develop alternative energy like T.Boone Pickens is doing all over Texas? You say you don't want your taxes hiked past your groin. You must be part of the 7% of the highest paid people in America that would actually pay more in taxes. Poor guy
Comment: when is it fair that so very few of the people pay almost all of the taxes?
Comment: When they have almost all of the income!!
Comment: It certainly sounds like McCain has Carl Rove doing his lies for him.
WE MUST FOCUS ON NEW POWER TECHNOLOGY AND NEW SOURCES OF ENERGY FOR THAT POWER AND WE MUST START YESTERDAY!
Mr McCain get real, be truthful we do not need four more years of the Bush, Cheney, Rove deceit!.
Please,
Bill
Comment: why cant we focus on new power and drill for new oil? Why is it only alternatives for the democrats? we will still need oil regardless how much we get from alternatives because we dont have the infrastructure for only alternatives. i'll buy an electric powered car tomorrow if I can go 200 miles and recharge in 15 minutes at an electric pump off the highway. I'll put solar panels on the roof of my house when it's economically feasible and I can get power at night. And I'll use wind power when ted kennedy allows windmalls of the coast of Cape Cod.
Comment: The Norwegians have an electric car called the Ox that can go 120-150 miles on a charge: fully recharges in 2 hours and recharges to 80% in 1 hour. The technology will improve if it's supported. There are lots of ways to make electricity including free way like solar. For Jill, if all the cars in the world are electric, there is plenty of oil to run your 18 wheeler and your jetplane. Please refrain from name calling; it's really immature and of no value in a discuusion attempting to resplve issues.
Peace everyone.
Comment: Because the neoliberal Democrats want the US citizens to bear the entire burden of sacrifice. While we will have to walk or ride a bike to work, they will continue to have their limos take them to the Capital the 3 days a week that they work, fly home first class every Thursday and return Monday afternoon, go on their worldwide junkets in private jets, etc. We must conserve all the fuel for their "worthy" use.
Comment: I'd give up on the first class, if I were you, when MCShame just got his own new jet!!!! Yeh, the MCCain's are where the real people are all right!!!!
Me thinks you need to do a bit more research because all you're doing is acting like him...........spewing nothings!!
Comment: Mattgilman, that is EXACTLY what I feel and that I know that McCain has already said was his focus. Get started moving with drilling to get oil from off our shores of our states where we have reserves (e.g. off our shores like Florida, cuz it wont be long before e.g. a country like Cuba around to sift out the oil in that same area). I dont understand why Obama will not include drilling of our own oil drilling in addition to all of the other targeted energy resources to pursue.
Comment: Do you really think our Govt will stand up to big oil? Right after the Govt straightens out the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. I will be holding my breath.
Comment: Interesting article. Seems as though Senator McSurge, I mean McCain, is getting into the swift boat mode of campaign ads. Essentially, McCain is a war monger with no new ideas. On energy, he's become simply a drill proponent, apparently to appease all the right wingers who still have doubts.
Slowly, but surely, he's selling out to the right wing. In the end he will be another failed presidential candidate...shilling for ED drugs.
Comment: are those troops he's bringing home actually coming home or going to afghanistan?
Comment: So what is your solution, do nothing? Check your facts we can improve our domestice supply in 5 years and show Mid East countries we mean business. So you like Obama good for you. I don't want my taxes hiked past my groin.
Comment: Hmmm, isn't the key phrase "no end in sight..."???
And doesn't the "some" who are blocking the voteon lifting the ban include Obama?
Comment: I predict that there will be more lies of this nature in the near future. The "let's see what sticks" mentality is alive and in play. I predict the real and imagined McCain supporters will deny this article was even written, and find some way of blaming the DNC.
Comment: it seems to me that obama has been trying the "lets see what sticks" game with all his positions since he won the nomination. still dont know what he really stands for.
Comment: Well, it seems my prediction came true. You didn't even reference the article of course. You did however take the time to blog like a republican. Okay here goes. Exactly what did Obama say about McCain that can be construed as a blatant lie like this one?
Comment: YOU WILL NEVER KNOW BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT HE STANDS FOR.
Comment: The CEO of Chevron says drilling will not do ANYTHING now or in the future. Because they will export 75% of the domestic oil and the 25% they will sell us at "world prices" whether it comes from Mexico, the middle east, or anywhere else, it will be sold at over $4.00 a gallon.
Comment: our government can prohibit the exportation of oil from US fields. The CEO of Chevron knows this.
Comment: No, we can't. Because we belong to the World Trade Organization (another neoliberal Democratic blunder), we cannot restrict distribution, nor provide a subsidy for US citizens. That would be unfair to OPEC and against our trade agreements.
Comment: The WTO is an off-shoot of the GATT. Rules updates ballooned from 1945 to 58 ending with Eisenhower.
It's a political blunder. Neo-liberal by the way is an off-shoot of what? You are very opinionated and emotional and it seems you try to write to convince, but you're just noise.
Comment: Neoliberal - off-shoot of Democrats for the Globalization under the CFR.
Comment: And since we import 69% of our oil to begin with your point, Pearsoncrz is absurd.
Do the math.
Comment: The CEO of Chevron says drilling will not do ANYTHING now or in the future. Because they will export 75% of the domestic oil and the 25% they will sell us at "world prices" whether it comes from Mexico, the middle east, or anywhere else, it will be sold at over $4.00 a gallon.
Comment: Stop being fools. It's no coincidence that we are facing high oil prices at a time when two oil men have led the country for 8 years. Now you are swallowing solutions that are designed to enhance oil company stocks and profits.
Here are numbers and links to government sources:
The estimate for how much oil there is in offshore reserves less than 4% over 8 years (--Federal offshore proven reserves: 4483 million barrels total, US current consumption 20,687,000 barrels/day).
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/natural_gas/data_publications/crude_oil_natural_gas_reserves/current/pdf/ch3.pdf#page=2
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/servicerpt/anwr/index.html?featureclicked=2&
http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/quickfacts/quickoil.html
They oil companies have approved offshore drilling areas they havent even gotten to yet!. They will not get to any new leases for more than 4 years. If they get to it, they cant get oil in less than 7 years! By that time, if we are still primarily on oil, we are toast anyway.
There are some real research numbers here and more REAL analysis and solutions if you are interested in TRUTHs (from government sources)
http://kenny.netvios.com/Proposal_Towards_US_Energy_Independence.htm (look in the references)
Comment: J. Richter...you keep mentioing the prices of oil stocks...exxon mobil is flat over the last year yet oil prices have skyrocketed. Where's the correlation? We live in a capitalistic society where profits are GOOD. Individuals and pension funds ovwn millions and millions of shares of these oil companies so why would more profits be bad? And because they are addicted to profits (as they should be) dont you think they'd want to sell more at these prices? So why arent they drilling on all these supposed leases they have? Do some research on that.
Comment: Congress Democrats banned offshore drilling in most federal waters since 1982, citing environmental concerns. And with few exceptions, oil companies have largely given up the fight to start drilling off the coasts of California and Florida, where the most reserves are believed to be...
Republicans argue that the United States could easily produce an extra 3 million barrels of oil a day - a 35% increase in daily domestic production - if the oil companies were allowed to explore in American waters again...
It's true that lifting the ban won't get a lot more oil flowing quickly. On the other hand, any significant new find could bring down prices simply because the market would know the oil would be available eventually.
Lets say we discover something within two years of getting the drilling lease,... We may not produce it for another two years, but the price impact may actually be felt during that period. But you'll never find any new discoveries without actually going and looking."
With the exception of the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska, America's coastlines are largely unexplored. There have been only about 350 exploration wells ever drilled in federal waters along the Pacific Coast. Along the Atlantic, it's closer to 50. That compares with more than 40,000 wells in the Gulf of Mexico.
If the ban were lifted, oil companies would probably rush into places they know, like off the coast of Los Angeles and Santa Barbara. There are already 26 million barrels a year produced there from platforms built before the offshore moratorium on new wells went into effect.
Comment: Oil companies are only drilling on about 20% of the areas available for domestic exploration.
That's like saying, "I only have 2 dollars, and a cup of coffee costs 2 dollars, so someone please give me 10 dollars more so I can buy a cup of coffee." DOES NOT COMPUTE!
Comment: This is FALSE and you know better:
"Lets say we discover something within two years of getting the drilling lease,... We may not produce it for another two years, but the price impact may actually be felt during that period."
They have drilling areas they havent even gotten to yet!. They will not get to any new leases for more than 4 years. If they get to it, they cant get oil in less than 7 years!
The estimate for how much oil there is less than 4% over 8 years (--Federal offshore proven reserves: 4483 million barrels total, US current consumption 20,687,000 barrels/day).
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/natural_gas/data_publications/crude_oil_natural_gas_reserves/current/pdf/ch3.pdf#page=2
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/servicerpt/anwr/index.html?featureclicked=2&
http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/quickfacts/quickoil.html
STOP PUSHING FALSEHOODS. It will kill us all 10 to 15 years from now if we go down this route.
There are some real research numbers here if you are interested in TRUTHs (from government sources)
http://kenny.netvios.com/Proposal_Towards_US_Energy_Independence.htm (look in the references)
Comment: Unspecified "key states" huh? Those would'nt be the same states where Hillary won would it.The ones where the people have no education(not too smart),not as affluent(poor),live in the mountains(rural areas),and probably aren't really people with much of a tan.(Caucasian)
Comment: yup, you got it (you elitist)...all those poor folks that cling to guns and religion (good Americans but obviously inferior to you)
Comment: What's the problem with giving more land to oil comanies for drilling in the hope that it will reduce the price we'll pay for gas in 12 years at best?
Globally, oil is set to end between 2039 and 2045. If we havent worked for and found alternatives by 2030 (by which time drilling and defacing our coast was a quest for the unnecessary), we'd be toast, anyway. We keep forgetting the earth is only 7,918 miles or 12,742 km in diameter and petroleum in crude oil or any form represents an infinitesimal, slowly ending resource whose production has peaked.
There are current leased offshore lands yet undrilled. Giving more lands to oil companies will only raise their stock (as all other policies by this oil men administration of Bush Cheney Halliburton and now McCain). THINK mattgilman. Its a coincidence that oil went over $4 under an admin run by oil men for 8 year?
For true details and science: look here:
http://kenny.netvios.com/Proposal_Towards_US_Energy_Independence.htm
Comment: Unspecified "key states" huh? Like maybe the same states with the type of demographics that won for Hillary hmmmm?. You know the ones I'm talking about,the states with the high trailer park errr...rural and poor and uneducated populations.
Comment: yup, you got it...all those poor folks that cling to guns and religions.
Comment: You are so smart. I'm sure you've done better in the past 8 years than the average government-distrusting, voting-on-trusted-issues such as guns and religion (the original comment that was twisted) folk. I'm also sure you were one of those who thought electing the current two oil men to manage our country was a great idea (what better way to bring oil under control than put two oil entrepreneurs in charge, eh).
I'm sure you are doing well in an economy in which the overall country is so devalued that Europe and China are now buying us up (see the low value Budweiser posed to the Belgian company based on the dollar). Who though our dollar would be less than the Canadian 8 years ago? I'm sure you are one of those who think throwing more money at the rich in form of tax breaks with the assumption that they create job and it will trickle down is smart policy (this simply increases their disposable income and they spend it on luxuries or overseas - the rich has no country!). In spite, of this I believe that genuinely you think you know what's best for our country and are not letting your personal emotions dictate who's best to trust in this issue. Sometime we fall on idealogical sides based on our own insecurities inspite of evidence to the failings of those choices.
Comment: You are right J. Richter! Congratulations for that! I have done well over the last 8 years (did fairly well the 8 before that too) but I dont think you really want to vilify success, do you? Is it bad to be successful in America these days? And if you havent done better over the last 8 years, dont blame me or George Bush. Blame yourself. If you have done better, good for you and well done! My success had nothing to do with the government helping me (i did not get a rebate but I guess I help fund it, yet I'm still getting abused for some reason) and my taxes as a % of my income is higher thanks to George Bush. I do believe that I know whats best for our country, as do you obviously. I believe we need lower taxes not higher and less regulation not more. We need as much free trade as we can get. We need freedom from government not more government. There's nothing emotional about it.
Comment: Here's a thought for all of the people who seem to think allowing drilling in currently protected areas off the coasts of the U.S. will solve or make the oil situation any better, what if there is no oil? People assume that permission to drill will automatically conclude with pumping of oil in 2030. What if it doesn't ? Must we wait until the year 2030 to implement a different plan that does not include off shore drilling?
Comment: thats a nice attitude: let's not try because we might be wrong.
Comment: No. Let's not try because by the time we get the oil, we'd be done. Globally, oil is set to end between 2039 and 2045. If we havent worked for and found alternatives by 2030 (by which time drilling and defacing our coast was a quest for the unnecessary), we'd be toast, anyway. We keep forgetting the earth is only 7,918 miles or 12,742 km in diameter and petroleum in crude oil or any form represents an infinitesimal, sloqly ending resource whose production has peaked.
There are current leased offshore lands yet undrilled. Fiving more lands to oil companies will only raise their stock (as all other policies by this oil men administration of Bush Cheney Halliburton and now McCain). THINK mattgilman. Its a coincidence tha toil went over $4 under an admin run by oil men for 8 year?
For true details and science: look here:
http://kenny.netvios.com/Proposal_Towards_US_Energy_Independence.htm
Comment: and just to clrify "toil" (im guessing you mean oil is at $128 a barrel, not $4...if it were $4 we wouldnt be having this discussion
Comment: Per gallon, mattgilman. Focus on the important. Picking the keyboard wont help anyone $4 or $128.
Comment: oh, sorry...but im not sure the last time oil was $4 per gallon. you threw me for a loop.
Comment: ok, I've thought about it for 1 second. You are right. Oil production is not going up, which is kinda ironic since you all claim Bush has been good for Oil. If he were really good for oil, he'd let them drill so they could sell a whole lot more. All thats happening now is the Middle East and Venezuela are making money. But over the last eight years the big reason prices have gone up is that the emerging markets (China, India, Brazil, etc) are industrializing rapidly and they are all less energy inefficient than we are. They are using a lot more oil. Demand is much higher and supply is the same, which results in higher prices. Not so sure what's so controversial about that J.Richter
Comment: Look at the figures for global oil demand from the government links I sent you. Let's not sit around and push arguments without interest in truth or facts. No one is here to waste time. We are both interested in what's right (except if you are profiting from this oil-friendly environment at which point I'd say kudos to you - your shareholders come first not the country or the environment - that's business, that capitalism, its the job of the governmetn to regulate or place country interest first).
Yes, demand is increasing slightly (yes due to China and India but not Brazil - Brazil is using over 50% ethanol locally developed - shocking - the only country that has above the 50 mark). Based on economic elasticity law of demand and supply, the current price of oil is several points above projections. Remember, Saudi already stated that the problem is not surply. And yet they even iincreased it further. Squeezing the earth for oil will end, you dont want us holding the bag at that poitn stil running an economy on oil. And no, at best our overal ANWR and offshore resource will add less than 1% to total supply in 12 years AT LEAST.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/natural_gas/data_publications/crude_oil_natural_gas_reserves/current/pdf/ch3.pdf#page=2
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/servicerpt/anwr/index.html?featureclicked=2&
http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/quickfacts/quickoil.html
Comment: You are right, it is not Obama's fault. The fault lies with the environmentalists and the Democratic party. They are the ones that do not want energy independence. They want us to wait for renewable energies. So after 30 years of waiting, it still does not work in an efficient manner. When do they expect renewable energy to be the wave of the future. Maybe 10, 20 or 30 more years, meanwhile, the democrats want to support the terrorist by ensuring that we cannot driil for our own energy needs.
Comment: You are right, it is not Obama's fault. The fault lies with the environmentalists and the Democratic party. They are the ones that do not want energy independence. They want us to wait for renewable energies. So after 30 years of waiting, it still does not work in an efficient manner. When do they expect renewable energy to be the wave of the future. Maybe 10, 20 or 30 more years, meanwhile, the democrats want to support the terrorist by ensuring that we cannot drill for our own needs.
Comment: Obama did not cause high gas prices. But he still supports an outdated policy that has contributed significantly to high prices. Whether the effects of that policy can be reversed in three or twenty years is irrelevant. It shouldn't surprise anyone however, that a politician is not interested in taking a position that would only help the situation once he's long-gone. Maybe if he would support offshore drilling, it might provide some relief for the younger generation who is going to get stuck with the bill for his abominable universal health care plan.
Comment: The GOP has turned this into an "offshore drilling" issue - which is just what the oil companies would like - and they've managed to shift the blame from them - for Bush not doing anything sooner to help increase US production - to Obama. It's stupid, because it will backfire on them. They had 8 years to do something about offshore drilling and DID NOTHING until it became a political issue during an election.
I didn't see one Republican clamoring for more US production - not until the oil companies decided they might rather back McCain because he might cost them less than Obama.
Comment: you actually think they could have done something about offshore drilling? Did they have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate during the Bush years? And if it really dows take years and years to get the oil out of the ground like you oil guys say, isnt it really bill clinton's fault for not doing something about it?
Comment: Yap,... you got it !!!!!,... The veto of Bill Clinton from 1995 actually put to the rest all hope of increasing the oil production in USA... Only ones,.. (in 1995) congress passed the legislation to allowing domestic oil production, which has been vetoed by Clinton???
Comment: It is really a non-issue; there is not enough supply in the US, either offshore or on, at this time to meet the world (and our own domestic) demand. Whether or not we drill offshore has no immediate bearing on prices today at the pump, except maybe psychologically and temporarily.
We need to reduce consumption (reduce DEMAND) and explore for as much oil as possible until we exhaust all supplies in the world. Simultaneously, we need to hurry up and figure out altneratives for fuel, for tranportation, for plastic goods, lubricants, etc. that petroleum currently provides (or helps provide).
Comment: so you say it's psychological? is that what mccain has been vilified for saying? oh thats right he's dumb and you're not because you know. And you are for exploring and drilling for more oil but you are against drilling offshore? Now I see why you are voting for obama.
Comment: you were for drilling before your were against it...the john kerry of the oil business!!
Comment: Adam & Evil has hit the nail on the head. We don't have the refining capacity built up either. This all costs a FORTUNE and the infrastructure is not in place. The oil we do produce would be sold on the world market, not funnelled to the US citizens... consumption is way too high here to begin to supply 100% and wean us off imports - just ain't gonna happen, not unless we REDUCE CONSUMPTION over time dramatically.
In steps Obama with a better plan for diversification, R&D, etc. McSame and Bush will do nothing but make prices higher.
Comment: lets see..we buy oil on the world market and if our oil goes to the world market and increases supply, prices will go up? Obviously you didnt major in economics.
Comment: It's a demand side problem.
Comment: You obviously have no clue about the oil business.
Comment: No, I majored in liberal arts; I work in the oil business.
Offshore drilling won't make a tinker's damn worth of difference to US consumers until we reduce our consumption. No way can anything we produce in the US begin to satisfy our domestic demand. Not even if we find a huge new discovery. Oil will be much higher -priced by the time that comes online in 10 years or so, assuming we discover anything worthwhile... In 10 years, the price of oil will be so high we will be using alternative options for transport, etc. There just won't be enough supply in 10 years to justify using it at the rate we use it today.
Comment: So you're one of those money grubbing Big Oil guys that only cares about profits and bringing the consumer to its knees? So hypothetically speaking, if we were to increase oil supply it wouldnt be better for prices than if we did nothing?
Comment: Drop in the bucket; it's a dmand-side problem. Global demand is growing much faster than global production and will do for the foreseeable future.
I'm voting for Obama because McCain is too dumb, and Bush did nothing for our energy policies other than bring us into a war that increased prices dramatically. His is a failed presidency because he couldn't even manage to secure the oil fields in Iraq and had no exit strategy until Al-Maliki and Obama decided on one.
The GOP is outdated, stale and intellectually obtuse these days. Perhaps they need some fresh new thinking.
