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  • Posted By: Artemis1 @ 07/22/2008 8:58:44 PM

    Yes, tsides22, nature destroys too. But it does so in the natural cycle of things which is ESSENTIAL to the survival of a healthy earth and the renewal of all living things. And Yes, nature can be brutal. I watch around my mountain home how even something as benign as humming birds are brutal to other humming birds - not wiling to share- it is the nature of survival. HOWEVER - sometimes WE interfere with natural cycles which are necessary either because we feel they are so destructive (environmentalists) or because we alter environments in destructive ways so we can use nature's products or land. (oil & gas behmouths). Either way - environmentalist or "the oil and gas behemouths " - the result is devastating. Both groups have messed with the environment. The issue is not that both groups have had a hand in the "Interruption,or altering of natural environments, but the extent to which each group is narrow in their view and blinded by their fixed vision on their goal. The Environmantaist vision is always good - it is the fact that they , like the oil & gas , lumber, etc people have a distorted view of where to go in and when to leave nature alone. So while the orignal intent is good - both groups are out of hand at times. I have watched my home area almost destroyed by the fact that for decades fires were so controled that the forest grew into an unatural tangle of sick old trees and overgrown underbrush. Then there was a fire no-one could stop that burned for 3 weeks at 2500 degreees (not the usual 250 degree fire). The devastation was horrible and the ground was seared. Sometimes even those of us who want to protect the environment go overboard too. the result is as bad as the oil & gas people when they are out of control. The key is moderation and keeping emotions under control so we can look at the facts - not get so attached to our ideal of saving nature or using nature for our gain that we can no longer see the whole or objective picture.

    And .... unless you live under a rock in the woods or on the desert where there is no road, gas or electricity, do not own a vehicle and own only a few items of necessary clothing, then, you, like most of us are perpetuating the need to obtain natural resorces and thus are part of the probelem too.

  • Posted By: unraveled13 @ 07/22/2008 7:05:07 PM

    You're absolutely right. If not for those damn environmentalists, we'd be breathing poisonous air, drinking toxic water and saying goodbye to all of those worthless species of animals (Polar Bear, etc.) that no one around Colorado has even seen during the entire lives anyways. I can't believe how shortsighted some people are. Maybe when all the trees are gone, the oil and gas behemouths who run Colorado can finally have their way and poke a hole in the ground every 2 feet to extract whatever's left of the fossil fuel below the dirt and infect our groundwater with chemicals whose contents the government doesn't even know because the contents are "trade secrets!" Yeah, those damn environmentalists. If I had one wish, it would be to spend one day...tomorrow...living in a world where the "horrible environmentalists" wouldn't have "screwed anything up." That way, maybe moronic, short-sighted people who think the way you do may actually see that there is some benefit to them.

    • Posted By: pejsar @ 07/22/2008 8:05:55 PM

      Why is it everytime someone goes on a rant around here their user name is always something like "unraveled"? I live in the lodgepole forest outside of Central City Colorado. It absolutely is true that most of the problems I face are the result of "feel good" environmentalism ie: no burn policies run amok. I spend a lot of time trying to keep the thousand or so trees on my property healthy. We are doing that by cutting down two thirds of them. I actually can speak for people around here when I say natural resource management by committees that meet at Starbucks in San Mateo or Berkeley or even Denver (sorry if you live there) don't have anything to offer us at all. Just a bunch of city people trying to tell us they know more about what we need than we do.

    • Posted By: pejsar @ 07/22/2008 7:59:47 PM

      Why is it everytime someone posts something close to a rant their handle is alway something like "unraveled"? I live close to Central City Colorado, in the lodgepole forest. It is true, that the diseased state of the current forest is the direct relust of "feel good" environmentalism ie: no burn policies. I spend a lot of my time trying to improve the health of the trees on my land by cutting two thirds of them down. People that are "unravleing" have no right to act on my or my neighbors behalf. If it wasn't for idiots in cities trying to manage natural resources from their local Starbucks, some of these problems wouldn't be problems.

  • Posted By: Poodle Momma @ 07/22/2008 7:32:22 PM

    You know SOMEONE will trace this back to MAN MADE pesticides creating the "super beetles," right?
    It's always man's fault, just because people have trouble realizing that God can be sarcastic too.

  • Posted By: Colorado08 @ 07/22/2008 7:02:49 PM

    Montana- Thank you so much for your concern for the residents of these mountain communities. Regardless of who is at fault- you should never wish forest fires on anyone or any area. If and when the fires happen it is going to be devestating.

  • Posted By: kopette @ 07/22/2008 6:34:14 PM

    And one tiny lightening strike and you can say good bye to the forest from Grand Junction to Montana to New Mexico....This is not just an infestation of Colorado. And the environmentalists thought Yellowstone fires were an "answer"....this will make that look like a birthday candle!

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