Teen Pregnancy, Hollywood Style

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  • Posted By: staven @ 07/27/2008 5:57:27 PM

    I am not sure where e_denny has received his information but he is wrong on all counts. Birth Control pills stop ovulation they don't allow a girl/woman to ovulate and then get pregnant and spontaneously abort, and condoms are a safe and effective way to prevent preg. and STDS IF used properly and have no defects. He/she is right though that the problem is children having sex and having children of their own, thinking it will be okay because mommy or daddy will help out, which most time the parents are stupid enough to do. If parents didn't refused to help and the word got around that they would be literally on their own I think most teens would maybe think twice, especially if they had to watch just one friend go through it completely by themselves. Oh and I am sorry but I think it's about time that the girls that do find themselves pregnant start demanding from the courts that the idiot boy start coughing up for some of the expenses it does take 2. If adult males who hold jobs have to hand over a portion of their earning to women they aren't married to or divorced from with children than so should they.

    • Posted By: oiweek @ 07/27/2008 6:52:32 PM

      staven, here's the briefest answer I could find to your comments on birth control: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiCU46_lWeE

      • Posted By: e_denny @ 07/27/2008 8:16:17 PM

        Very helpful, thank you.

    • Posted By: e_denny @ 07/27/2008 8:15:23 PM

      One thing I still don't understand is why the blame falls on the boys. Where were the "idiot girls" when the "idiot boys" were having relations with them. They aren't idiots they are immature and under a lot of peer pressure. Don't blame the guys, hormonally speaking girls have a bit more controll over themselves than guys do. It is one thing if a guy is pressuring a girl, but in today's society I doubt that a result in pregnancy was the girl's first time have relations. Possible, but unlikely.

    • Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/27/2008 8:02:30 PM

      Courts can and do require the "idiot boys" to pay up. The problem is that they are teenagers and, unless they have a job, have no way to pay up.

    • Posted By: e_denny @ 07/27/2008 7:03:01 PM

      It is typical that one would not believe that contraception is not always effective in stopping a woman from ovulating. After all we wouldn't really want this information to get out, because the pill is 99.5 percent effective in stopping pregnancy. Studies have shown that of 100 women taking the pill or mini pill properly 17 to as many as 40 women become pregnant. So why is it that the pill has only a .5 percent failure rate? According to Dr.Ralf G. Rahwan, Prof. of Pharmacology & Toxicology at Ohio State University "their (the pill) close to 100% effectiveness in interfering with pregnancy is due to the effects of the progestin component on the cervix and uterine endometrium in addition to the oestrogenic effects. This hostile enviroment results in interception." Interception which is defined as a fertlized egg prevented from implanting in the endometrium. Not to mention the high rise in cervical and breast cancer since the pill has been released. As for condoms even the FDA has stated that properly used it does not eliminate the risk of STDs as well as it's 10 to 30 percent failure rate in preventing pregnacy. Might I add that many STDs are smaller than the sperm ao that would probably make the risk of STDs even greater. Not to mention a woman has a small time frame in which to become pregnant, but she can contract STDs every day of the month.

  • Posted By: 3irock1011 @ 07/27/2008 8:15:59 PM

    before *they're married

    sorry, language arts was never my thing :-P

  • Posted By: MrsJoiner @ 07/27/2008 8:14:33 PM

    It is not about being in the position. It is about knowing all of the consequences. Getting up in the middle of the night for those early morning feeding. If you are still in school then you have to think of staying up all night with your baby because they are sick and can't sleep because they have fever and then finally getting to sleep just before your alarm clock goes off to get to school. You also should know about the pain you go through while you are pregnant. Sore ankles, contractions that make your stomach feel as if someone was ripping it, and sometimes you have to be on bedrest so you don't lose your baby. Having a baby isn't about getting attention just because your pregnant it is waay much more than that.

  • Posted By: 3irock1011 @ 07/27/2008 8:14:33 PM

    I am a 14 year old girl and haven't met pregnant teens nor I am not a pregnant teen or was one. I think that the media does pressure the young teens to have sex before there married. These movies and shows don't show the teasing of the young mothers have to go through, the pain of whether to have an abortion or not, whether to give up the baby for adoption or not. Juno was a funny movie, but unrealistic to me. The parents reaction was very unrealistic to me, and at the end of the movie when she gives up the baby for adoption and never sees it agin, she's with her boyfriend and playing her guitar happily. The Secret Life of the American Teenager completely glosses over abortion. I am personally again abortion, but it's an individual choise for everybody. I'm also tired of the premarrage (I know that's not the right word) sex and children. Not mattter what age you are, I don't belive people should have sex before they are married, no matter how glamorized it is in the movies. I am not fully blaming movies and celbrities, tough, because it's part of the parents and teen's fault if they have sex or get pregnant or whatever else (drugs, stealing ect). It bothers me when girls are dating when they are so young, I know a girl who has had 4 boys and two-timed before and she is only 13 now. Boy I feel old writing this :-P. I recommend the Nikki Sheridan series if you want to look into the teen pregnancy business, truthfully. (sorry I'm rambling).

  • Posted By: stormycoop @ 07/27/2008 5:49:09 PM

    I was 18 when I gave birth to my daughter . Shs waas to fulfill my need of wanting to be unconditionaly love by my parents. Little did I know about life or babies. My daughter was born with Cerebral Palasy. She is 19 years old now and still has the mind of a one year old . Through her colic , many operations, and years and years of her crying. I still love her but I had to learn the hard way that being a single teenage parent is far from galmorious and exciting. Tell you children you might not have a perfect baby . Tell them about me. Your your not guarnteed a perfect baby or a perfect life like tv makes it look.

    • Posted By: LabRatInOregon @ 07/27/2008 8:12:31 PM

      I have to commend you for your post. It is so true that children can be born with disabilities. So many of these teen mothers have no idea about these things and it's good that you spoke up about what can and does happen sometimes. I'm sorry that you had such a hard time. It was wonderful that you stuck it out and took care of you baby through all of the hardships.

  • Posted By: danleywalkington @ 07/27/2008 8:12:30 PM

    While I do believe all of what you guys are saying about the tv, movies, and media not showing you the real side of teen pregnancy there is acually one show that I have found that DOES in fact show you a little bit about it, and that show would be Degrassi: The Next Generation. This show is a Canadian show that is shown on The-N, it shows a lot of stuff that teens have to deal with in life and was actually founded by a teacher who knew this stuff wasn't being shown on tv so she took it into her own hands and decided that their needed to be a show out there that showed the best of a glips of what really goes on in the real world. This show has been around for a really long time there are actually characters in this show that are from the originally Degrassi and who are reasin there kids as well. This show shows us teen pregnacy (on more then one occation), mental illnesses, school shotings, vilance, one parent homes, eating disorders, deaths, being poor, gay people, rape, date rape, suicided, muit cultural homes, abuse, you name anything that we as people go through during our childhood, teens, and as adults it shows it. So really there is some hope out there and maybe some of you should check out this show.

  • Posted By: lmrsdiz @ 07/24/2008 2:52:48 AM

    My 18 year old has just had her 2nd baby. She now has a 2 year old and a 2 week old. She and her friends retort that it is their life but don't realize the financial burden and stress their choices put on their parents and their State resources. Guess who ends up supporting these precious children. Not their "boyfriends" but the state and their parents so they can get on with their lives. Am I mad? You bet!

    • Posted By: EquiPro @ 07/24/2008 12:18:48 PM

      Wow! Didn't she figure it out the FIRST time? There's something missing in your picture because, while not figuring it out and getting pregnant at 16 is a really sad commentary on your 18-year olds knowledge of her body and how to protect herself, getting pregnant a second time is idiocy. You need to figure out how this happened and make SURE that there isn't a 3rd time. I resent supporting your daughter and her child. My 10 year old knows - KNOWS - how pregnancy occurs AND that it only takes ONCE. She gets it and she's only 10. How did your child miss it TWICE??

      • Posted By: emmarcee @ 07/25/2008 8:57:04 AM

        she did n't learn probabaly because you were supportive the first time? taking care of the issues? who cares for a fatherless generation?

        • Posted By: Schwartzzee @ 07/27/2008 8:11:15 PM

          Who cares for the 'fatherless generation'? Well, obviously not their mothers! If the mothers cared about anything or anyone beyond themselves these children would not have been conceived in the first place. Those who were conceived would be either aborted or adopted. I know! Let's cut off all government support to unwed mothers and then see how many children are born or born and not adopted once the "money train" is gone. Anyone care to experitment?

    • Posted By: sherin86 @ 07/27/2008 4:12:03 PM

      you know what if the state makes it hard to get and the stupid parents dont stop supporting them then they wont stop. Because all they are thinking about is satisfying a guy that dont respect them enough to think that they are worth more and them being igorant not knowing that true love and respect does not come from or based on how much they spread their legs. GOODLUCK!! on being walked on it can hurt as im told.

    • Posted By: kas_wolf @ 07/24/2008 4:49:13 PM

      I know this sounds cold as ice - but - it is quick work to change the locks and put her stuff on the porch. Perhaps she will learn a little personal responsibility.

      Let me guess - two different fathers - right?

  • Posted By: Douloux @ 07/27/2008 8:10:30 PM

    The real question is when will we come back to the truth and righteousness? When will kids and adults stop satisfying their own selfish desires and do what is right? The problem is not that kids aren't using birth control and not being educated about sex. The problem is that they are having sex outside of marriage - completely uncommitted to their partner, and only wanting to satisfy their own cravings. And what comes most of the time after the pregnancy? The MURDER of helpless little babies. Sex was created by God to be a sign of our love to our spouse (ONE MAN, ONE WOMAN). It is beautiful and pure within the boundaries of marriage. May God convict our Nation for its evil and its deliberate turn from Christ and righteousness and pour out his mercy instead of the judgment that we deserve! I challenge all of you to read the Scriptures, to seek a relationship with Christ and to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sins. All of us deserve Hell, and that is what we will get unless we believe on Jesus. May God have Mercy on us!!

  • Posted By: bze-2008 @ 07/27/2008 4:45:34 PM

    Getting pregnant as a teenager is not the end of the world. But it is hard work & there will be many days when you'll wonder just what you have gotten into. I should know I was right there a few years ago. But girls give it your all. Being a SINGLE TEENAGE parent WILL make you a stronger person. At the end of each day just take a few minutes to be thankful for your baby.

    • Posted By: desertgirl @ 07/27/2008 8:09:53 PM

      People can become strong without having children.

  • Posted By: Douloux @ 07/27/2008 8:09:47 PM

    The real question is when will we come back to the truth and righteousness? When will kids and adults stop satisfying their own selfish desires and do what is right? The problem is not that kids aren't using birth control and not being educated about sex. The problem is that they are having sex outside of marriage - completely uncommitted to their partner, and only wanting to satisfy their own cravings. And what comes most of the time after the pregnancy? The MURDER of helpless little babies. Sex was created by God to be a sign of our love to our spouse (ONE MAN, ONE WOMAN). It is beautiful and pure within the boundaries of marriage. May God convict our Nation for its evil and its deliberate turn from Christ and righteousness and pour out his mercy instead of the judgment that we deserve! I challenge all of you to read the Scriptures, to seek a relationship with Christ and to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sins. All of us deserve Hell, and that is what we will get unless we believe on Jesus. May God have Mercy on us!!

  • Posted By: ProudMommi18 @ 07/27/2008 6:26:29 PM

    were in the 21st century people need to deal with teen pregnancy your kid these days are gonna have sex weather you like it or not parents can talk talk talk all they want but hey *** happens im tired of seeing *** like this on the internet im an 18 year old mom and those things are true and i think the main thing that i get is a big get over it sign. beeing a young mother is glamourouse in the fricken 18th century kids were haveing babies at 14 and younger..... so you can talk all ya want but the reality is ya kids gonna do it or not with or without protection even the nerds at school straight A students do it one big thing.....Get A Life And Get Over It

    • Posted By: Sam223 @ 07/27/2008 6:39:00 PM

      i have to agree with you. im 19 years old and have a 16month old. its not as hard as everyone thinks, i just would say go out and do it its fun. u do need to be carefull and u need to no that u r realy ready before u have a baby.

      • Posted By: LabRatInOregon @ 07/27/2008 8:08:12 PM

        Yes, babies (when they are healthy) are fun when they're little....then they get bigger, and eat more, and need more clothes, and stuff. In ten years, this cute little person is going to be attitude on wheels if he/she is anything like the mother. It sounds like you have an attitude as well, so enjoy.

      • Posted By: Krys @ 07/27/2008 6:51:25 PM

        How stupid are you? Its fun?? What are you going to do when you become a grandmother at 35? Be happy, because your kid was having fun?

    • Posted By: mommyjulianne @ 07/27/2008 6:51:22 PM

      I've read a lot from teen who love their kids and think being a mom is great. I like to see that however the bigger picture is health ins. In my community most teen mom are on Medicaid, WIC, food stamps, etc and not working. Are you paying your own way for you and your baby???
      I've been asking and have not had any responses! So all you teen mom what do you know that I don't know!

    • Posted By: Krys @ 07/27/2008 6:46:20 PM

      So when your kid comes home one day and says that they are going to be a mom or dad, your going to be ok with this?GROW UP! And keep your legs closed!

  • Posted By: Angie12985 @ 07/27/2008 8:02:32 PM

    I'm a teen parent and this article aggrivates me to no end. It makes a big deal over the fact that contraception is not dicsussed. If the girl is pregant what difference does condoms or birth control make now? What matters is the situation at hand and what to do with it. I think Juno was done wonderfully. If they added in any more of the trumatic events that you actually go through, people wouldn't have been able to watch it. It would have been too emotional to watch. So as mentioned in the article, yes Juno and those other shows are good ice breakers to talk to your kids about it. It's not hollywood's job to teach your kids about sex. It's called parenting.

    And a comment to those that think every teen parent is on welfare-you're full of it! I don't receive any assistance what so ever other than my daughter's health insurance. I graduated high school without missing any time and I'm graduating college next spring with an associates degree. By the way, I paid for my degree by myself. Yes my parents have been and contnue to be extremely supportive. I also work full time. So to everyone who thinks all us teen parents are deadbeats and depend on the government, check yourself.

    It's not the choices you make it's how you handle the consequences!

  • Posted By: MrsJoiner @ 07/27/2008 8:01:47 PM

    It is about time someone says something about the parents. I was 18 when i first had sex and the reason why i was 18 was because my daddy had a strong hold on my decisions. Everytime i thought abot it there was my daddy in my head telling me not to. I am 24 now and i have a two year old i am married but there isn't a day that goes by that i don't think about my decision two and a half years ago. Parents we really need to step it up in today's times or the abortion rate will rocket and the number of teen parents is going to sky rocket. Don't pass up the chance to talk with your children tell them how you feel about it and don't hide your feelings. Don't be scared to tell them whats right. Thank you. Sharon Joiner ,Meridian Mississippi

  • Posted By: Vickster @ 07/27/2008 7:56:06 PM

    When it comes to sex, drugs, violence, and alcohol, the media (movies & television) does not show the complete story. They only show the excitement and the thrill. They may at times show the negative conseqences, but only if it will help sell the story. Teens should be growing and becoming independent slowly. Having a child as a teenager is not slow. It is havng to face the reality of adulthood at too young of an age. Why do teen want to grow up so fast?!! Why not enjoy being young and free without all that responsibility? The time will come when you are bogged down with so many responsibilities that you can only wish you had time for fun with your friends. That is not even mentioning your education. Education comes first. I have four children. Three sons and one daughter. Two of my sons are18 and 19. I have told them to wait until marriage for sex. One of the mains reasons is money. It is expensive to date and they do not have the money right now. I tell them to go out and hang with their friends. When they are mature enough to face marriage and fatherhood (after college graduation),then they can think about getting serious with a girl. Each human has been given a beautiful, unique gift from God to be shared with their marriage partner. If it is saved for that one and only person, the gift is the most precious gift that anyone could ever give another.

  • Posted By: candose @ 07/27/2008 7:55:52 PM

    I'm a single teen mom and I'm still going to school. There is no where in the rule books saying you can't be a mom in school. I've got lots of people that help me out, sure, but in all honesty, I'm doing it alone. Her dad has her two days a week and that's all. I still live with my mom but after graduation my daughter and I are moving out and making a life for ourselves. Just because I got pregnant doesn't mean my mom is not a good person or a good parent. I was on birth control, I could talk to her, and I was still blessed with my 7 1/2 month old daughter. I decided to stay in school because that's what was best for my daughter. Just because someone gets pregnant in high school doesn't mean they're a bad person or a bad role model. And if the person in question who gets pregnant decides to keep their child and go on with life as best as they can, they should be looked up to because they made the right decisions. Age can't decide how good of a parent you are.

  • Posted By: lmeeks104 @ 07/27/2008 7:55:41 PM

    My question is this... when do we start talking about sex and it's benefits and it's comsequences. This past year at the middle school where I work 5 out of the 22 that I work with ended up pregnant and one, a 13 year old, dropped out and another one was glad that she at least made it past the eigth grade. When I spoke to my girls, they had no concept of their own body, no idea why women go through the changes or how their bodies worked. When do we start re-educating them about basic biology.

  • Posted By: twood001 @ 07/27/2008 7:52:31 PM

    I don't think our society helps in this situation or any other as far as that goes, we have become an individualistic society and truly our concerns are more about "I" not the "US". Trying to solve this and put the blame on someone can't be done. We "Our Society" is to blame. We aloud this to happen, we encouraged things like this to happen. It is a time for change and for us all to look at our country as a whole and make and take the effort to help the teenagers, through this difficult times. Not let hollywood let this be a style, cause as you know we all don't have it like these individuals. Something has to change, or things will continue to be out of hand in our world,

  • Posted By: e_denny @ 07/27/2008 5:45:03 PM

    The problem isn't that teens are not using contraception or condoms. The problem is that they are sexually active. It's sad that most people don't realize this. It's not a problem what people's kids are doing until there is unwanted consequences. A huge majority of people including doctors aren;t even aware how contraception and condoms work. Since when have condoms made sex safe? Never. It will not stop sexually transmitted diseases including AIDS. Many of these diseases are small enough to go through the condoms . Condoms are very ineffective in stopping pregnancy as well. Contraceptives do not stop people from getting pregnant either. It does not stop ovulation as was thought early on. It just makes it near impossible for the babies that are conceived to implant due to a film-like substance it causes to be produced in the uterus, thus causing spontaneous abortions (miscarraiges).

    • Posted By: mommyjulianne @ 07/27/2008 5:56:55 PM

      I disagree with most of what you said and didn't hear a point or solution. Are you for teaching Abstinence only to our children?? Have you done any research on teen pregnancy or STD's. Are you doing anthing in your community to educate or combate STD's or teen pregnancies?
      I'm for promoting sex education, including Abstinence & STD education. Knowledge is power!! I work in public health and will be attending a school board mtg in Aug 08 in my community regarding teen pregnancy. I am currently tracking teen pregnancy stats in my community.

      • Posted By: e_denny @ 07/27/2008 7:51:50 PM

        Very informative link!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiCU46_lWeE

        Yes I am for teaching abstinence only, but that is not all it takes, people need to be more aware of what their children are doing. So many people just let their kids go off and do whatever. I have read up on many studies done. And when an opportunity comes up, God give me courage, I will inform people of what I know, but after that people will believe what they will. Your giving someone info wont change people's minds they have to do the follow up investigation on the facts you give them, if they are willing, which most people aren't. The majority of people have their minds made up before the conversation begins. I beleive that sex ed should be done at home, although parents aren't obviously doing a good job of doing this. The school system generally is giving kids too much info and raising curiousity. Not to mention the how envoled Planned Parenthood is in our society today as far as sex ed, abortion, etc. How many people are aware that this organization was started by Margaret Sanger, an outspoken racist, whose ideas you can look up at the following link http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm.

      • Posted By: ljm2717 @ 07/27/2008 6:22:05 PM

        i am very interested in what you are doing within you community. i am very scared for teens in mine i have never seen so many pregnant CHILDREN. Id like to know how you will address the school board. i have a five year old and as a parent i will educate her on safe sex and pregnancy.

        • Posted By: mommyjulianne @ 07/27/2008 6:47:18 PM

          Hi, I also have a 5 yr old girl so this is a very important topic for us. We will do sex education at home but I know not all parents can/will do that so I think it is very important to get into the schools. I work at the local public health department so i have access to lots of information on teen pregnancy/STD's/Contraceptive's. First let me say I'm not sure how the board mtg will go. As of now all local schools only teach Abstinence because we are in the "bible-belt" in the mid-west. This is a touchy subject so education our community leaders is the first step. I hope to do this by showing the stats on teen preg and STD's. Number don't lie!! The schools will tell you teen preg is not a problem but that because the girls are not staying in school and the administration is turning their heads. SHOW THE NUMBERS IN YOUR COMMUNITY!! You can get the #'s from you public health department or state website. The CDC is also a great place for information (stats). Find out what you school is teaching. Find out if other parents are concerned about teen preg. Start a group, educate yourself, and meet w/ other leader in your community and express your concerns. It takes time....I know! But if you can help a few and stop the cycle it will be worth it! Good Luck and wish me luck and the board meeting. I will be one of few :o(

  • Posted By: rebjar @ 07/27/2008 7:51:05 PM

    I think we've got some screwed up ideas in this country--that it's impossible to practice abstinence before marriage, that marriage should wait until you're "mature", and others. The media shows us so often that it's alright to have sex, alright to produce children, but that it's sooo wrong for teenagers just to get married. Maybe if we preached a little less safe sex and a little more that it's okay to just committ completely and totally, we might have fewer teen pregnancies--or maybe they wouldn't matter any more because they'd be the pregnancies of Mrs. So and so. A little about me to justify this radical viewpoint--I got married at 18 after dating my husband for a year. We have been married nearly 8 years and have 2 wonderful children. We both graduated from college and hold professional certifications along with our degrees. Not bad for a teenage marriage, eh? Oh yeah, both of us were virgins when we married.

  • Posted By: emilys.mommy @ 07/27/2008 7:50:19 PM

    I'm 19 years old and I have a 16 month old daughter. I have been married for over a year to the father and I can honestly say that God has blessed us immensely. Yes being a teen parent is hard, but it's not impossible. You just have to grow up and that's not at all a bad thing. I love my life and I wouldn't trade it for the world. My husband and I both work full time and are getting ready for college. Age doesn't make a difference if you are mature enough to handle it. I did drop out of high school around the same time I found out I was pregnant but it wasn't because of the baby. It was to take care of my mother before she passed away. God gave me this gift, a child who helped me to cope with my loss and to carry me through to live my life to the fullest. I buried my mother when I was 4.5 months pregnant but I had no other choice but to press on and turn to God. He has done wonders for us as a family. My husband and I are both saved and we may be 19 and 20 but we don't act like it. We pay our own bills and we live as adults should. We don't drink, we don't party, we don't do anything that we can't do with our child. She is our world and we're very excited to have our future children as well and to live the way God intended.

    We know several other teens who are parents and unfortunately almost all of them are single and if not single, they might as well be. They don't want to grow up. Our biggest struggle as young parents is finding other people our age with the same maturity. Hence why our friends are all years older than us. It can be frustrating to see the mistakes they are making. They don't want to work or go to school. They'd rather dump their babies on their parents while they go party. It's rediculous. If you are a teen who's pregnant then either grow up and do the best for your child or give them to someone else who will give them what they deserve and that's a real chance at life.

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