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Does media portrayal of teen mothers help destigmatize the issue for the unfortunate who end up pregnant? Or does it somehow legitimize premarital sex? Readers weigh in.

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  • Posted By: rbrignoni @ 07/23/2008 8:53:24 PM

    Teen Pregnancy is difficult. I had my son when I was 17 years old. What was more difficult than raising him while I was still in the process of growing up myself, was the blatant disregard for my difficulties. I looked up to adults and was expecting guidance and assistance. To my disappointment, I received a cold shoulder and a look of shame which deeply penetrated my (young and scared) heart. Well, that was 16 years ago, and a lot has changed since then but I feel an obligation to reach out to young moms of today and give them encouragement and support. I wrote a book especially for pregnant teens, honestly, they are desperate for it. I hope that sharing this information with those of you, who read this blog, will help replace criticism with compassion. That is the only way to help them heal their breaking hearts.

    • Posted By: toriesc84 @ 06/13/2009 10:50:45 PM

      thank you so much rbrignoni pepole need to stop being hateful to these girls an be supportive no teen girl gets pregnate because they think its cool it just happens an they choose to take care of there children stay srong girls its not as bad as there saying be a good mom an you will have good things come to you

  • Posted By: Harpers_Fairy @ 07/28/2008 1:02:19 AM

    I look at the teen pregnancy rate as the down fall of our society. I don't think that teen mothers are bad people they are just humans who made a few wrong choices. I don't think a teenager can be a very good mom because they are still children and don't have any life experience or the brain capacity to make mature decisions. But with respect to teen mothers they do the best they can for their age and as far as Jamie Lynn Spears goes, she is far from the typical teen mother she has money to pay someone to do her job. I think society as a whole has said it is okay to have have babies when you are children...the family is slowly but surely dying.

    • Posted By: toriesc84 @ 06/13/2009 10:38:02 PM

      you know thats not true at 15 i did a good job with my son he is an amazing kid also my own mother said to me just the other day you were a better mother at 15 then most women are at 40 stop putting girls down for making choices that dont include killing there unborn babies the ones who choose to keep their babies are the brave ones

  • Posted By: toriesc84 @ 06/13/2009 10:29:24 PM

    you cannot say anything about a teen mom unless you have been one i was pregnate at 15 an now my son is an 8yr old strait a student an all around good kid a teen mom has all the resourses a older single mom has i asked for birth control my mom said no now i have a son it is only as hard as you make it for them they have a right to decide for themselfs an she should get to be happy about the new life growing inside them gods knows i had to smile when he kicked when none was looking im not saying every teen girl should have a baby but if it happens all you need to do is be there for them DONT JUDGE

  • Posted By: tranya55 @ 08/10/2008 3:13:16 AM

    Hooray for curch-40 who obviously has self-respect and a work ethic! Good luck to you and since you are obviously educated, please consider carefully the concept of "planned parenthood", with emphasis on the "planned". However, as a child and family therapist contracted to Child Protective Services, the unfortunate statistics indicate that there is very little to celebrate about young people having children, and I'm confused and terrified at the current climate of childbearing-as cool in this country today. Unfortunately, for most young people, or rather, most PEOPLE regardless of age, pregnancy is merely a side-effect of having unprotected sex. I won't list the ramifications of having children when one is not prepared--you can find this info on the net. And trust me, emotionless statistics cannot begin to describe the issues for these children-it's much worse in real life. The major point I want to make is WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SO MUCH FOCUS ON TEEN MOTHERS????? The last time I checked, it takes two to reproduce (o.k., except for fertility procedures). Why do we not also discuss the young (or older) men who contributing sperm to the equation? In my practice, more often than not, young girls are having sex early because of some or combinations of any of the following reasons: 1. to keep the boyfriend happy and attached to her (oh, and by the way, having his baby is also supposed to make him stay-right......); 2. peer pressure, being cool, getting lots of attention from boys, etc; 3. the young mom was sexually abused as a child; the young mom's family of origin was very chaotic, with usually some combination of addiction/violence/neglect/mental illness/etc, etc. It's starting to sound like these girls are victims, right? Well, the young men didn't have it any easier, but in our society we parents expend an incredible amount of effort trying to keep our daughters from getting pregnant, but our young men are not taught self-control, personal responsibility, etc. It's usually, "boys will be boys", and a secret sigh of relief frol Dad because his kid's not gay. In fact, some families actively encourage their sons to get out there and conquer! I have seen several cases where an older brother/cousin/uncle will show an 11, 12, 13 year old boy XXX rated porn as a way to man-him-up. Well, the technical term for that is sexual abuse. Anyway, thanks for listening, and please, let's also hold these young men accountable as integral partners in the lifelong endeavor called parenthood!

  • Posted By: Dangerous Thoughts @ 08/05/2008 2:06:27 PM

    I honestly don't think it is acceptable at all to say Jamie Lynn Spears is a shining example of a teenage mom, cuas she has enough money so she doesn't have to work, like she gets it pretty easy, but what about all the other teen moms? there's about 30 expecting and already teenager moms at my school. None of them have had a "fun time in teenage parenthood" like Jamie Lynn Spears. I think it's wrong to condem teenage moms and most of them are doing a great job, but to exalt Spears for getting pregnant as a teenager too and saying that she is a new role model or demographic is nothing but ridiculous

  • Posted By: TinaWith2Cats @ 07/27/2008 11:51:28 PM

    I wanted to be a teen mother, but my mother was set against me becoming a mom and did everything in her power to prevent it.
    Now after a major car accident and 15 years of recovery......I'm so grateful my mom didn't have to raise me and a child of mine!!
    At 38 I know my clock is only getting faster and time is running away. While I desperately want to have a child, today's economy and the thought of pregnancy, birth and raising the child alone is too much for me to consider getting pregnant.
    These young girls don't have a clue what life is yet and doesn't know what it really takes to go through something so life changing. The media has made pregnancy look fabulous and it is if your grown up, married and ready.......then you're still not ready.
    What is missing from the media is the reality of getting pregnant, telling parents, the pregnancy and hormones, child birth and raising the child buying diapers, formula, clothes, shoes, blankets, etc for the next 18 years.
    I blame the media for making Jamie Lynn's story so glamorous and easy......it isn't!! My 15 year old cousin is a daddy for the first time to a premature girl and the mommy is only 14! He will now not have a chance for college or a regular life through high school because he is a daddy.
    Parents are to blame for not educating their children and showing them proper ways to use birth control or just to not have sex! Sad so very sad

    • Posted By: iwillmakeit @ 08/02/2008 9:59:25 PM

      TInawith2cats: I think it is BS that you say your nephe will never be able to go to college. I had my first child when I was 17 and my husband wen to college straight after HS and I am now attending college. I believe we probably made it though because we had a loving and supporting family that NEVER put us down but pushed us to accomplish more. Maybe you can be the aunt that pushes her nephew to never give up.

  • Posted By: curch-40 @ 07/28/2008 4:52:44 PM

    I am 18 years old. I have an 11 month old daughter. I'm also engaged and getting married in April. I'm in a great relationsip with a guy who is not my daughter's father (as he was abusive, I got myself and my daughter out of that relationsip when it hit a turn for the worst). My fiance is however the father of the baby I'm pregnant with now. We planned to get married BEFORE I found out I was pregnant. We both are working and we are making it just fine. I also graduated with honors and am currently is summer session at university where I'm taking a dual major of psychology and law. My 20 year old fiance is a firefighter. I never have, and never plan to be, on financial assistance. So, don't worry, you're not paying for my child. I'm perfectly capable of doing that on my own, thank-you-very-much. If you were to ask me if it's all easy, I'd say no. But then again, at what age does getting up in the middle of the night with a sick baby become easy? 20? 30? How about.. never.. but it is worth it! I would NOT recommend this, but I wouldn't condemn it either. I knew I could make it work, and I've proved that, but some people just can't make it work. At any age. Not just as teenagers. I know just as many adults living on welfare, or being poor parents, as I do teens. Come to think of it, in my town, there are five sets of teen parents that I can think of, all but my ex and myself are still together (3 are married), and hopefully no adult would stay in that relationsip either. And only one is on welfare, and that's because she's currently in school to become a police officer. I can, on the other hand, think of many adult couples (or single parents) that are being supportted by tax payers and are terrible parents to their children. I take offence to the fact that they fail to show the teen parents that are actually doing something with their lives and making a great life for their children.

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 07/24/2008 7:11:27 PM

    The biggest problem I see in this whole debate is - where is the discussion about the dads?

    As the mother of both a daughter AND a son, my message to them both was simple and direct, and identical: your body, your responsibility. Son - your clothes need to stay on, but if it comes out of your pants and you can't walk away, put a condom on it. Daughter - your clothes need to stay on, but if it comes out of his pants and you can't walk away, put a condom on it. Simple and direct.

    Babies and std's are preventable - please prevent them.

    Both sexes need this discussion, not once, but several times; all behaviors have consequences, for girls and for boys.

    That said, both my daughter and my son always knew if they had questions, concerns, symptoms or pregnancy, they could confide in me, and we would deal with it the best we could. I loved them enough to give them straight talk, and an unjudgemental parent.

    Fortunately for all three of us, they only thing they ever brought tme were their questions and concerns.

    • Posted By: fatherof2soon2b3 @ 07/27/2008 3:16:15 PM

      dads im the usa dont matter no more everything is geared towards moms and kids like the usa is saying kids dont need fathers then when the kids get into trouble and end up in jail there like well where was the father at? and this makes me mad being a father of 2 and one on the way.my last 2 kids i was allowed in the sonagram room this one the women doing it said sorry but the father isnt allowed in the sonagram room then she said but ill give u a picture. screw the picture i wanna see the live feed i wanna watch it on the monitor not a stupid picture.so the guys who dont want anything to do with there kids screwed it up for the guys who want to be in there kids lives and so thats why everything is geared toward women and children.

      • Posted By: fatherof2soon2b3 @ 07/27/2008 3:22:41 PM

        and before you go one bout its cause the women is the bearer of life well heres a news flash for u u need a guy to make a baby with out the guy all u got is an unfertilzed egg and there forth no bearer of life.

        • Posted By: bobomack @ 07/27/2008 10:16:19 PM

          If you think being a father is being negated and being at fault for causing pregnancy is bad in here. Try to go through the court system for a child support. The system has all but made you seem useless, except for the money you pay. The courts are geared toward woman and to get a fair shake is almost impossible in the USA. These women of teen pragnancy say it's their choice and everybody needs to mind their own business. At the same time,they are living on the social programs (welfare, HUD, AFDC) that you and my tax dollars support. These young girls don't have the skills or intellect to raise a child, as well as pay the way. I'm sure most of the women who wrote their comments here, are or were receiving welfare to raise the child. My tax dollars and yours have been spent on the women and children, and they have the nerve to tell us to mind our own business. Hey Honey, when you take money from me and society to raise your baby, you have now made it my problem. Judging from the vocabulary of the writers, most never finished high school. Jamie Lynn Spears is not a role model in any way shape or form, She's a classic Hollywood tragidy. The only difference is she has made enough money to hire a staff to raise her baby. If not, she would be another teen who used poor judgment or who's parents didn't talk to her about abstanance or protection. Hollywood,the media, and taploid rags won't teach our teens about self control and saying NO.
          NO, they sensationalize this and make it apear to be alright to to pre-marital sex. Of course, when she gets pregnant,, it's made to be the fathers fault.for not using protection. This a scurge on our society and i for one am fed up with my tax dollars supporting teens who can read and write or do math, but now find themselves pregnant.. I really feel sorry for the babies born to immature, self centered teens who don;t have enough brains to use protection. The have a real tough road ahead, which these teen mothers can't comprehend due to ignorance..

          • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/28/2008 3:08:19 PM

            I have never been on public assistance of any kind, nor have a lot of these posters on here. Before you talk about the poor fathers, you need to consider all of the 'men' who bail on their children. My daughter's father is still in the picture, but he pays the same child support he has when she was born--over 9 years ago. He makes $50,000/year and only pays $213/month. Please, tell me how that makes him a victim? Unfortunately I can't even get him to go away b/c support counts as 'contact'...my husband, who has been her father for the past 7 years, wants to adopt her and can't because of the measly $213/month that the military takes out of her biological father's check each month. Yeah, don't talk to me about the poor fathers out there...

    • Posted By: fatherof2soon2b3 @ 07/27/2008 3:19:49 PM

      Son - your clothes need to stay on, but if it comes out of your pants and you can't walk away, put a condom on it. Daughter - your clothes need to stay on, but if it comes out of his pants and you can't walk away, put a condom on it. Simple and direct.

      that is wrong ur putting all the blame on the guy the women has a choice to keep her legs closed and her pants up and why does the guy always have to have the birth control the women have a choice to pop a pill to kill the eggs and the guy wouldnt need a condom.

  • Posted By: Sum1nTx @ 07/27/2008 5:25:47 PM

    For the record, birth control pills are only 90-95% effective (depending on the brand and other stuff). Condoms are only 85% effective. Food for thought for all the teens out there.

    • Posted By: Milo-kun @ 07/27/2008 8:11:29 PM

      Actually Birth Control is about 99.8% effective and Condoms are 98-99%. Get you facts right and get your head out of the abstinance programme propaganda.

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/28/2008 3:01:19 PM

        Those statistics are with PERFECT use, which rarely happens. Perfect as in taking the pill at the same time every single day, a condom not breaking, etc. Sum1nTx's statistics were more accurate. The most accurate form of birth control is having your tubes tied, Depo, Norplant, and things like that...and they STILL are only 99.7%, so your statistics are completely off base. Perhaps you should get YOUR facts right. http://www.fda.gov/Fdac/features/1997/conceptbl.html

      • Posted By: wdjd4kjp @ 07/27/2008 10:30:52 PM

        And Milo-kun, what is so wrong with teaching abstinence? It doesn't matter about the facts of effectiveness of anything. What is important is letting our teens know that we love them no matter what, but that they need to save their gift for the one they will marry. And only to be given on the wedding night. Some people are against abstinence because they are participating in pre-marital sex and are trying to justify their sin. There is no justification. Sin is sin. And sex outside of marriage is a sin against the body. Again, we should love those children who are having children, but we need to let them know that they will have consequences. As parents we need to support our children when they have made a mistake. But they also need to learn to live with their choices.

  • Posted By: AmandaCHaney @ 07/28/2008 12:40:50 AM

    I am a teen mother and it absolutely pisses me off that people have such horrible things to say about us. Yes, there are those teens who don't take good care of their children and are not deciding to go far with their lives... however, there are those of us who still finished high school, are going to college and taking damn good care of our babies. If you don't know what you're talking about, you shouldn't speak. You aren't in our shoes and have no room to judge. We are not a bad example or an example of irresponsibility. We are a example of maturity and people who know how to step up to the plate when needed. It's ridiculous that people assume that because ONe person makes a bad example of a teen parent, that all of us our the same way. I got pregnant at 17 and had my daughter at 17. I continued to go to school and graduated on time with above average grades. My daughter's father is still in the picture and we both take Very Good care of our 3 month old. So all of you who think you know everything about us can shut the f*** up immediately because if anything, You are a bad example. An example of a judgemental, disrespectful individual.

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 07/28/2008 2:53:20 PM

      Whoa, sweetie, calm down. I was a teen mom, too, and I'm not offended by the stigma because it's true. Does that mean that you aren't a great mother? Not at all. You are an exception to the rule and should be extremely proud of yourself. I finished high school and continued all the way through to my MBA, but for everyone one of you or me, there's ten women out there who are on welfare, don't take care of their kids, and are irresponsible. If you read the posts, a lot of them are by people who have been down the same road as you. Being a teen mother is not a good, respectable thing. Call it whatever you want, but it's not. It's wonderful that you are doing such a good job, but getting pregnant at a young age, before you can have an education, house, marriage, stable career, etc. is not the ideal way.

  • Posted By: doehoe @ 07/27/2008 9:10:11 PM

    ok.i am a teen mom and i never would have thought about have a kid till i got pregnet with mine.you make it sound like it is a bad thing which it is not.so i dont know why you people are up in everyone business.let us be its are life not yours so i dont know why you care so much.we are the one taking cre of them not you.so just leave us alone and let us take care of your lifes

    • Posted By: Yuseff @ 07/28/2008 1:06:47 PM

      Excuse me Ms. Hoe,

      I would personally like to buy you a copy of 'Hooked on Phonics'. Please leave your address so I can know where to send it.

    • Posted By: uptilltwo @ 07/27/2008 11:07:47 PM

      People generalize about teen moms like they do about everything else. They take ONE aspect of a person and make all kinds of judgement calls on statistics that are altered depending on who publishes them. Hang in there mom and hold your head high. You;ll meet many with a narrow view because they have neither traveled anywhere except the reaches of their own narrow minds and back yards, nor read a page
      of history which shows this happening in all societies (media or no media) since the beginning of time.

  • Posted By: Odkin @ 07/27/2008 10:33:23 PM

    The media always hurt, because the media always take the wrong side of any socio-political issue. If the media is unbiased, how exactly have Conservatives been able to accurately predict for decades that the media is 90% Democrat? That number is consistently proven out by polls of journalists and public donation records. Of course the media glamorizes teen pregnancy, single motherhood, and working moms. It always puts "personal empowerment" ahead of responsibility, common sense, and social order. The media would never show a working or single mom failing as a parent, and when it does it is always because we stingy taxpayers don't subsidize bastard children adequately. Never because it's just stupid, wrong, or irresponsible.

    • Posted By: Yuseff @ 07/28/2008 1:00:36 PM

      Never show a working or single mom failing as a parent? You must not watch the 10 o'clock news.

  • Posted By: SHAMAR17BROWN @ 07/28/2008 1:15:01 AM

    WELL I DON'T SEE WHY PEOPLE ARE MAKING SUCH A BIG DEAL OUT OF TEEN PREGNACY.BACK IN THE LATE 1800"S AND THE EARLY 1900'S TEEN PREGNACY WAS VERY COMMON AND EVEN STARTED AT THE AGE OF 11.PARENTS HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY WERE DOING AT THAT AGE. TEENS ARE GOING HAVE SEX WETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.DECADES AGO MOSTLY AFRICAN AMERICANS HAD TEEN PREGNACY,GOT MARRIED TO AN OLDER MALE ADULT,OR HAD TO BE A SLAVE WHO WAS BEING RAPED BY THE SO-CALLED MASTER!!!SO GET OVER IT'S NOTHING NEW TO THE WORLD ABOUT GETTING PREGNANT AT AN EARLY AGE.AND YES I WAS A TEEN MOTHER!!!

    • Posted By: Yuseff @ 07/28/2008 12:50:32 PM

      Yes, in the 1800s and early 1900s people were having children at 15 or so, but they had gotten married at 14 and the young man had a job working down on the farm or at the mill somewhere. You can't quite compare that to whats happening today.

  • Posted By: cinbob @ 07/28/2008 9:20:14 AM

    I am not against teen moms. I am against glamorizing teen moms the way the OK magazine does Jamie Lynn. Jamie Lynn's experience is not the norm for teen moms, but teens may not be able to see past the flash. The media does the same to adults too. Looking at Angelina Jolie you wold think that it's possible to have 4 children under age 6, be pregnant with twins, and work on multiple movie projects while doing charity work and attending publicity events. How does she do it? Lots of money and hired help. So not the typical experience for moms of any age in this country. The thing is, as adults we realize this. Teens haven't the life expereince and maturity yet to recognize that Jamie Lynn, like Angelina, lives in a world with resources most of us can only fantasize about.

  • Posted By: carefullmom @ 07/28/2008 4:17:04 AM

    When I was just a fourteen year old child I was surprised to find myself pregnant. I knew how it happened, but I think I was so naive that I didn't think that it would happen. I don't recall my folks ever speaking to me about the subject. When they finally figured out what was going on with me, they drove me to a clinic and forced a decision down my throat. I don't really know what decision I would have made if it had been left up to me, I think I probably would have just gone on in childlike ignorance not believing that any of it was really happening. After the tears cleared and I realized what had happened, and took responsibility for what I had done, I became so angry that I became near obsessive about having another baby. At 18, I did. I moved out of my parents home at midnight on my 18th birthday and called them a few months later to tell them that they would soon be grandparents. They indicated that the 4 years of remorse that they had watched me endure had led them to believe that only having a child was going to help me begin to heal. I thank God for their support and believe that my daughter healed wounds in my family that might never have otherwise healed. With my folks support and personal drive resulting from wanting the very best for my daughter, I finished college, landed a good job, eventually married a great man who adopted my daughter, finished graduate school, and now have two more children. The first five years when I was going to college and being a mom were really challenging. Other students were going to parties and I was washing diapers and working a night shift to make enough money to pay my rent and buy food. My oldest daughter, now 20 and in college, and my middle daughter, now 14, know that they can come to me with anything and I will not judge them, but will help them no matter how difficult the situation. They tell me that I have given them a tremendous role model to strive towards in their own lives. We have spoken openly and honestly about birth control, sex, and the hardships of raising babies alone and in poverty for so many years now that I cannot remember when we started. I think teen mothers and mothers-to-be or perhaps not-to-be need more non-judgemental support to help them make a decision about whether they have what it takes to raise a child. And for those young women who do choose to keep their baby, government programs should focus less on hand outs that lead to dependence and more on high school completion programs and college credit programs such as childcare money for woman who take college courses to enable them to get good paying jobs. Judgemental and negative comments certainly won't help a young pregnant woman make healthy decisions. I thought Juno was a thoughtful representation of how a family dealt with a crisis, and how a young girl made a very brave, realistic, and generous decision for the well-being of her baby.

  • Posted By: sweetgirl*08 @ 07/28/2008 1:42:59 AM

    responseibilty and take care of him and i thank my mom for that. It just hurts that people think we cant be good parents because we are young and they wont have both parents in their lives well my son is now 3 and his dad and i have been together for 5.5 years and i love him to death and we are expecting are second little boy in september i have been on my own since i was 18 with my boyfriend right by my side.

  • Posted By: lillysmommy @ 07/28/2008 1:42:53 AM

    It is my opinion that we need to try to better educate teen mothers. Trying to prevent teen pregnancy is great but imposible. The fact is teens are going to get pregnant. The best thing to do is educate the teens when the do become pregnant and teach them how to be the best mom they can be and help them continue school and find jobs. I was lucky. My daughter was born when I was 16 years old. Luckily I had a supportive family and a school that centered on educating teen mothers. I was able to get my diploma get a great job and I am now attending college as well. My daughter has not suffered in anyway from the time needed to go school and work. Online classes are a great thing. I can be home with my kids and go to school. My daughter and I spend tons of quality time together. If there was something I could do to help educate teen moms and help them through this time in their lives I would be more then happy to do it. I have gained a lot from my experiences and I think all teen moms should have the same opportunities available to them.

  • Posted By: yammiscammi @ 07/28/2008 1:41:24 AM

    How the heck can we compare Jaime Lynne Spears to the normal teen?..We can't. She could raise that baby with or without her family. She can afford the finer things in life for that baby. We could only wish!..As a Latina and a mother we need to teach our teen daughters that we need to stay focused on respecting ourselves and our bodies. To all the teen mothers out there...(Keep your head up and be strong!)

  • Posted By: sweetgirl*08 @ 07/28/2008 1:38:02 AM

    I had my son at age 16 at 16 and a half got my first job at a fast food place not much but it paid for my gas and stuff we needed. we lived with my mom at the time and she DID NOT raise my son yeah she helped out and showed me a lot of stuff but i am the mom and i had to learn she wasnt the one who got up and feed him at night i was, am i mad or angry with her NO he is my son and i had to grow up and take the responseibi


    responseibility

  • Posted By: lillysmommy @ 07/28/2008 1:37:21 AM

    I believe that trying to prevent teenage pregnancy is impossible. It is my opinion that the best thing to do is educate them on how to handle being a teen mom if and when it happens. If educated about the topic teen moms have more options. I had my daughter when I was 16 years old. Luckily I had family support and a school that taught me how to be a good mom. I graduated high school have a great job and am in college as well. My daughter has not been left out in anyway. I spend tons of quality time with her and I am able to take care of her by furthering my career and education. I believe that we as a society need to worry a little more about educating teen moms because no matter how much effort is put into preventing teen pregnancy it just isnt possible.

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