McCain's Viagra Moment

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  • Posted By: tmccullough @ 07/26/2008 4:57:24 PM

    I would love to know what insurance company cover birth control. I have been an employee (not self employed) for 30 years under different employers but most of the time, the insurance was with Blue Cross/Blue Shield. For 12 years, my husband & I even were double covered because he worked those years for a company that covered us also. I have been fortunate enough to have WONDERFUL insurance coverage. I have NEVER had birth control covered. Maybe, it is the state I live in. I don't know. All I DO know is that I thought that was a VERY APPROPRIATE question for Senator McCain. Maybe, fact checker need to hire NEW fact checkers. Just let me know how many insurance companies cover birth control, their names, and what states they are in. I am an officer at my company. Maybe, I can talk to the upper management about hooking up with these insurance companies since 95% of our company (a bank) are female.

  • Posted By: karela @ 07/26/2008 4:25:13 PM

    As fact check says, their data is six years old. They assume that insurance covering contraceptives has become more common and not less. However, since Bush took office seven years ago many changes that negatively impact women's access to contraceptives have taken place. Highschools no longer teach how to use condoms or even that their use might help the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. This month the Bush administration has instructed Health and Human Services to begin a new directive that says any agency that receives federal money now has to classify all forms of birth control as abortion including birth control pills, IUDs and the morning after pill commonly used in rape and incest cases. The neocons have made war on women by making it much harder for poor women to avoid unwanted pregnancy while at the same time making it harder to get abortions. They are also not in favor of feeding the resultant children who are born into poverty. They cut funding to children and give billions of dollars of tax breaks to the 1% of wealthiest Americans. These people who claim to be so moral are the most immoral people imaginable.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/26/2008 4:40:01 PM

      Both Parties claim to have a patent on morality and both parties are equally corrupt. Look at Spitzer, Kennedy, now Edwards.....they all, both Dems and GOP, have skeletons in their closest.
      You need to look past your arrogant Partisanship and see both parties for what they are, a band of lairs and egomaniacs.
      McCain and Obama have lied, shifted, and pandered. One has the gift of gab and one doesn't. One has a a breadth of experience to draw from, and one doesn't.

  • Posted By: reformthesystem&deceptivecampaigning @ 07/26/2008 2:45:43 PM

    Since the ad implies there is a significant disparity between the number of insurance plans that cover Viagra and those that cover birth control, which is not in fact true as to 86% of plans that were typically written in 2004, the ad must be deceptive and fraudulent. Anyone, including a voter, acting in reliance on the ad would be defrauded. The media that ran the ad and its sponsors would have to pay anyone acting in reliance on it money damages, and the responsible persons would be criminally prosecuted for attendant violations, including mail fraud. The reporter and all those participating in the deception should have criminal records.

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 07/26/2008 3:25:17 PM

      Good deal, reformthesystem&deceptive campaigning, I think that I'll sue the Bush Campaign for however much they have left in their coffers under your theory of fraud and deception. They promised Compassionate Conservatism, and only delivered Dispassionate Deprivation to millions of Americans who have lost jobs, hospital coverage and God knows what else to the Bush vetoes alone, not to mention unprovoked war causing widows and fatherless children to be left in the lurch. Under your theory, Senator Mc Clelan probably has a tremendous suit against Karl Rove, too, for defamation, libel and slander. None of these incompetent mistakes is Compassionate, and probably true conservatives are aghast, as well, at the political atrocities beyond reason. It's not enough to just throw these bastards out. They need to pay damages. Thanks for the legal theory.

  • Posted By: reformthesystem&deceptivecampaigning @ 07/26/2008 2:48:44 PM

    If the planned parenthood ad is in fact untrue, as reported, a crime (false advertising, use of the mail to defraud etc.) has been committed and those responsible should be prosecuted. Any one who acted in reliance on it would have a claim against them for damages caused by the reliance, plus punitive damages.

  • Posted By: clarkdent @ 07/25/2008 6:36:30 AM

    Viagra is a medication for a medical condition. Birth Control is not for treatment of a condition it is no different than condoms, there to prevent unwanted births.

    • Posted By: Ellen J. @ 07/25/2008 10:03:54 AM

      Contraceptives are often perscribed for solely medical conditions such as endometriosis, ovarian cysts, and others -- they are not solely for the purpose of preventing pregnancy.

      • Posted By: gingerbroad @ 07/25/2008 11:40:37 PM

        Ellen, Clark will never know, because I assume that he is a man, the terrible cramps, heavy bleeding, and earth shattering micranes some women go through during their period. When I was a teenager, I remember throwing up 24 hours, having horrible back and stomach cramps for 24 hours, lying in a fetal position on the bathroom floor, and smelling of tylenol pills I've been popping every 4 hours through my pores. When I started taking birth control my 2nd semester in college it was the greatest relief. No more cramps, no more throwing up, no more heavy bleeding. I regained my life. No more staying home from school because i was sick, no more hostile temperament because of PMS. I dreaded those 28 days. It felt like 28 minutes. So I can see why a man would make that statement.

      • Posted By: gingerbroad @ 07/25/2008 11:33:38 PM

        Ellen, since Clark I presume is a male, he has never experienced terrible cramps which lasts for 24 hours. He has never layed in a fetal position on the bathroom floor wondering when the pain will end. He has never thrown up everything he has eaten for 24 hours. He has never smelled of Tylenol pills he had to keep popping every 4 hours to numb the pain. When I was put on birth control I regain my life back. i had to stay home from school whn I was on my period. I don't think I could have made it through college. On birth control, I don't have cramps, bloating, heavy bleeding, or migrane headaches, While I do still have symptoms, they don't compare to what I use to experience as a teenager.

  • Posted By: susie99 @ 07/25/2008 10:07:39 PM

    The point is that people are worried about the issue- it doesn't matter if insurance companies "currently" usually cover both, if McCain doesn't support that then they may not in the future- so he needs to let people know where he stands on the issue so we can make an informed decision in voting.

  • Posted By: krg875 @ 07/25/2008 9:53:59 PM

    Maybe Debbie in PHX shud lern to spel befour she jumps inta the frae.

  • Posted By: Debbie in PHX @ 07/25/2008 9:20:12 PM

    Actually, NONE of this is right. If you would just take the time to watch that day's news coverage you would see that the report was REPEATING a talking point from one of McCains OWN surragates and asking McCain if he agreed with the position that his surrogate had taken. When the reporter did not get an answer she then rephrased and just asked the question outright, "do you think it's fair..." If Newsweek is going to run a Jess Hennig article maybe it would be, oh I don't know, responsible journalism to actually fact check the thing thoroughly to make sure it has, lemme see, a factually relevant premise, wherein a reasonable person could surmise he had actually done justice to the piece... speaking in half truths is still lying... or at least it was last time I check... Maybe Jess went in and change the story there too!

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 07/25/2008 6:48:40 PM

    Well,apart from the fact that PP is a pack of damned liars,they must have missed a report by The American Journal of Medicine this week that showed that VIAGRA can assist women as well,especially in the area of sexual dysfunction while the woman is on anti-depressents. Thus women will get a break too.

  • Posted By: TemujinP @ 07/25/2008 6:12:07 PM

    Maybe McCain has PTSD or maybe he has Alzheimers, or a little of both.

  • Posted By: TemujinP @ 07/25/2008 6:09:36 PM

    Viagra type drugs should not even be showing similar numbers to what birth control is posting by the insurance companies. One is necessary, the other is not!

  • Posted By: TemujinP @ 07/25/2008 6:07:28 PM

    There should be NO comparison of Viagra type drugs versus birth control. One is necessary, the other isn't!
    T. Powell

  • Posted By: serious discussion @ 07/25/2008 2:36:14 PM

    Let's state the facts. McCain "forgets" 3 times that the Czech Republic exists, puts Iraq on the Pakistan border, accuses Obama of causing the gas prices to rise, accuses Obama of sedition, and in general is having more senior moments than my Dad does at 83 years old. He appears now to be an old grumpy forgetful guy and do you want him leading us in ANYTHING? Let's contrast. Obama's positions on Iraq and Iran was just proved correct. McCain has now been forced to accept Obama's position on Afganistan. Our European allies are greeting Obama very well as well as the masses of Europeans are welcoming the thought of a thoughtful American who loves his country. Obama understands that the USA cannot survive in the isolation of the last 8 years. This isolationism and flawed strategy has cost us serverly in young military lives and BILLIONS of dollars better used at home. Can anyone find a reason to vote for McBush? Newsweek, try this contrast for a change and get rid of the bias toward teflon John. Obama 08!

  • Posted By: mj it @ 07/24/2008 4:35:21 PM

    The point is McCain is unaware...of everything.

    • Posted By: jh35180 @ 07/24/2008 5:42:51 PM

      And Obama's head is so far in the clouds he says one stupid thing after another.

      MERCI

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 07/24/2008 5:49:00 PM

        What "stupid" thing has Obama said? I can't recall... he sounds refreshingly intelligent to most of the rest of the world. What planet are you from?

        • Posted By: serious discussion @ 07/25/2008 2:31:32 PM

          Let's state the facts. McCain "forgets" 3 times that the Czech Republic exists, puts Iraq on the Pakistan border, accuses Obama of causing the gas prices to rise, accuses Obama of sedition, and in general is having more senior moments than my Dad does at 83 years old. He appears now to be an old grumpy forgetful guy and do you want him leading us in ANYTHING? Let's contrast. Obama's positions on Iraq and Iran was just proved correct. McCain has now been forced to accept Obama's position on Afganistan. Our European allies are greeting Obama very well as well as the masses of Europeans are welcoming the thought of a thoughtful American who loves his country and understands that the USA cannot survive in the isolation of the last 8 years which have cost us serverly in military lives and BILLIONS of dollars better used at home. Can anyone find a reason to vote for McBush? Newsweek, try this contrast for a change and get rid of the bias toward teflon John. Obama 08!

        • Posted By: djheru @ 07/24/2008 6:48:14 PM

          As you can see, the slime machine cant provide any examples of Obama's supposed stupidity. It cracks me up to no end to hear this attack from the supporters of the barely coherent GWB.

        • Posted By: jh35180 @ 07/24/2008 6:08:09 PM

          I am from the planet earth. I live in reality. Obama lives in a fantasy world.

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 07/25/2008 7:11:05 AM

        No Obama only says things that he thinks will make him sound better. He is driven by Ego.

  • Posted By: serious discussion @ 07/25/2008 2:16:39 PM

    The actual point was that McCain voted against a bill that forced Insurance companies to cover birth control for women. A larger point is that McCain's voting record on women's issues is 0% and Obama's is 100%. If you're going to fact-check--do it right. As a 64 year old white working woman that was active in the women's movement of the 60's it is unreal to me that anyone would consider voting for McCain at all and that includes both genders! Obama 08!

  • Posted By: FoonTheElder @ 07/25/2008 2:06:09 PM

    This writer doesn't have a clue. Most health plans cover Viagra because it is supposedly there to cure a medical problem. Many health plans don't cover contraceptives because they are not taken to cure an injury or disease. Most companies of over 200 employees are self-funded and they can cover whatever they want, as state coverage requirements don't apply to them.

  • Posted By: jlmealer @ 07/24/2008 11:24:08 PM

    IF Obama is elected he would crush this nation by doing the following:
    Obama's World Poverty Bill (google it) would be passed and take ALL of the US Gross Domestic Profit earnings to give to the UN for distribution to African nations (seriously, GOOGLE IT) (All 7%. Which is the US profit margin).
    Guns would be also gathered up according to Obama's Global Poverty Bill plan (Did you Google it yet?)
    Obama plans to heavily tax the investor class and no new small businesses would come into being (esp with the bank failures going on at the moment and no new loans being issued).
    America would stagnate and begin to fall apart without small business growth.
    Obama's tax on the investor class also takes away incentives for lower classes to strive to become wealthier people.
    Did you hope to begin your own business someday?
    Obama says NO!
    Obama must keep us in our place, after-all.
    Obama would immediately tax the large corporations which are already just barely balanced between the democrat instituted American Workers Union ridiculous demands and simply closing up and moving overseas or to Mexico.
    The USA corporate infrastructure would be destroyed within a year.
    Obama would force the remaining small businesses to pay totally unaffordable health care for employees and they too, would close up and go out of business even before finding health care, IF it were available.
    This will really hurt the women business owners who employ mostly younger women in retail, who have higher health care coverage.
    THEN Obama comes up with some LIE that he wants to give small business $5K per covered worker. Do you realize how many workers there are in small businesses throughout America? How would he pay for those TRILLIONS?!! Talk about not even thinking about how grand of a lie he tries to weave.
    Obama will over tax and over extend this country so quickly and at the worst time that we will DIE as a nation.
    If you want the USA to watch America die, then you surely want Obama to become president and vice versa.
    Note to Obama:
    Terrorists do not eat crumpettes, they send their brainwashed neighbors into tea N crumpette shops with bombs strapped to their bodies.
    They do not negotiate!
    This is not some game where we can push reset and this certainly is not a basketball game or charisma pagaent.
    This is the cold hard reality of Obama that people play deaf and dumb to.
    This is real life.
    McCain 3R Plan is a start, but Obama's view is obviously the end of the USA.

    • Posted By: GoHomeFascist @ 07/25/2008 2:05:56 PM

      You have got to be kidding me. How could ANYONE be a worse President than Dubya has been? You could literally pull a stranger off the street and put him in the White House, and they would do a better job. You are one lost fascist, living in fear and letting fear control your judgment. The end of the USA? Oh that's right, Obama is a Muslim Manchurian Candidate and does not wear a flag pin.

    • Posted By: Eugene23 @ 07/25/2008 7:27:59 AM

      You rant and rave. When I read this sort of thing, I make sure to point out that the commentator is playing to the emotions of voters, trying to get his/her way. Playing to the intelligence of voters, of course, takes intelligent commentary.
      That would call for a depth of knowledge about the issues that is greatly lacking in these brainless remarks.

  • Posted By: Jerome B @ 07/25/2008 1:24:42 PM

    wow this was apoorly written article. i hope you did not pay this person for this.

  • Posted By: kirt @ 07/25/2008 1:00:01 PM

    Somehow there is hummor in this sad fact. Old farts like myself are now at risk in making kids at retiment age while younger people who are having kids out of wedlock can't get help for not having kids. Then the age of children having sex has become younger, just say no ant working! The train of common sense have left the station.

  • Posted By: Deminmd @ 07/25/2008 9:18:56 AM

    Most political ads are b.s. If Newsweek is going to dissect this one, then explain McCain's one that blames Obama for gas prices. Some ads out there show Obama as a Muslum, not true. Most intelligent people know that these ads are opinionaded, not neccessary always fact based by either candidate.

    • Posted By: EveryoneHasBias @ 07/25/2008 12:56:06 PM

      Newsweek didn't dissect anything; they just reprinted a factcheck.org article. Here are links to the articles you suggest should be written instead. I find that the site in general does a pretty good job of pointing out bogus claims from both sides when they see them, even to the point of being nitpicky sometimes.

      http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_full_tank_of_nonsense.html
      http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

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