The Taliban’s Baghdad Strategy

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  • Posted By: johnkilban @ 07/27/2008 4:40:25 PM

    I am a lower enlisted solider currently on the front lines in Afghanistan. I agree that the news media does us no good and should leave us alone but I know this is not going to happen so I will just say that the time will come when the American news media will answer for their crimes. They are going to have to face a generation of American fighting men and women who despise them. We hate the news media all most as much as the the terrorist they love to defend in the name of human rights. The truth is no one cares about the soldiers any more its a bigger story when they bust one who crewed up in the heat of battle and they get sent to jail for life and the liberals scream yea they are evil send them away. Then there are the articles that always fallow the story of a death of a soldier. "should we pull out of----------------". Thanks for insulting the memory of that soldier. I guess your right he or she died for no reason and let???s just give up and leave. It???s not like they are going to kill us back in America. You have all for spet.11 th. ROME IS BURNING PEOLE Our govt. has abandoned us in the name of big business, the media only cares about dollars not what???s right, the public is selfish full of greed and hubris, and the military is falling apart. I am sorry I love peace and freedom and stand for what???s right I am an evil person and should be jailed for doing my job. Standing for up for people who can???t stand for them selves and being the voice for those with none. Now that I think of it WWII was a waste to and the holocaust was not our problem. The news media should write stories about that. If you are stupid then you need to know that every thing from I am sorry to now was sarcasm. People the war is just and clinton screwed us. He left the military in disarray turned a blind eye to the evil knocking on the door. If we pulled out the world will no longer trust us our word is dirt and osama bin what ever is right we are a paper tiger and if you pull at our tail we will just fall apart. We have no taste for war and will not stand up for anything. We have no pride and only care about our bank accounts. We are a nation with no morals and no god. If we leave then the war will come to America and we will gush the life force that is the dream of America worse then we are all ready. We need to put honest people in public offices and stop the media. America is burning people what will you do to save it.

    • Posted By: TheTestTubeMinds @ 07/27/2008 7:55:47 PM

      Thanks for you Words God bless and The media is a way for the government to control it's people hahah

    • Posted By: TheFuzz3000 @ 07/27/2008 5:18:39 PM

      Well said Johnkilban...well said!

    • Posted By: onepatriot @ 07/27/2008 4:58:22 PM

      Soldier if you are one I would suggest you get your facts straight and be an honor to our men and women who serve and who have served. God bless them all.

  • Posted By: TheTestTubeMinds @ 07/27/2008 7:50:40 PM

    wow

  • Posted By: cubeman4 @ 07/27/2008 6:45:53 PM

    If our Constitution is being destroyed, then name one Constitutional protection that has been withdrawn from American citizens. The right to call terrorists living abroad? The right to wire money to terrorist organizations? The right to not go through security at the airport? Your free speech? What specific right has been taken away?

    None of course.

  • Posted By: cubeman4 @ 07/27/2008 6:43:38 PM

    GOP Evangelical isolationist Stanlisits? Is there such a person in existence? Farmerbob, you contradicted yourself over and over and never made a coherent point other than advocating internment camps for Republicans, Evangelicals, and all military veterans. What a way to reward the heroes that are fighting while you sit on your computer and whine.

    How are Americans in support of the war on Jihadism isolationist? It's just the opposite. Do you know what isolationist means? What are you talking about when you reference laws preventing "you from killing us representatives in the media"? I am unaware of any member of the media killed those that support the war on Jihadism. Do you even realize Stalin was a Communist? Conservatives are in favor of political and economic freedom while Stalin was in favor of politician and economic authoritarianism. You're the one proposing reprogramming in internment camps, like the National Socialists (Nazis) and Communists.

    I have never read anything more incoherent and ridiculous

    oyajie1942, if all Bush cares about is money then why did he go into politics when he was making millions with the Texas Rangers? You have no evidence or reason in your comment. If you're going to make such over the top statements at least have a logical explanation for them. I suppose if you used logic you wouldn't make such ridiculous statements in the first place though.

  • Posted By: ProwlerECMO @ 07/27/2008 6:31:35 PM

    So Farmerbob calls military vets, Bush supporters, etc.. Stalinist and suggests they be...wait for it...put in internment camps and deprogrammed. Like Stalin. And the North Vietmanese for that matter. I imagine if Bob is old enough he thought Uncle Ho was the greatest thing going. Funny how the left loves to threaten the right will all the things they claim that Bush does. If Bush is as they say, why are Noam Chomsky, Susan Sarandon, and George Clooney still walking around free? Farmerbob needs to pull away from his sheep and understand that the world contains evil people that cannot be reasoned with and must be dealt with the only way they understand, with brute, violent force. If Bob thinks OBL and his crew can be negotiated with, I will be more than happy to buy him a ticket to Karachi. Of course the end result would be that the very people he is so disgusted by having to risk their lives to go rescue him. Freaking Jackass.

  • Posted By: oyajie1942 @ 07/27/2008 6:28:41 PM

    Nothing good has ever come out of a lie. The Bushwhacker's - senior and junior- have always had one agenda - money, money, money. Bush Jr. is a mental midget well controlled by the VP and his father. They have little regard for ordinary folks that just want to raise our kids, plant our flowers, work our jobs, pray to our God. They have no regard for us wherever we are. So they hate-monger, fear-monger, andgenerally do whatever is needed to keep us scampering around and hating each other. The Bible warns of this, and so do all teachings of all the world religions. I do not hate Afghans, Iraquis, Iranians, or Racist Americans. I truly believe that in the end, TRUTH will conquer all because it is of God. I am tired of the division between peoples - who benefits?

  • Posted By: DarrelSegers @ 07/27/2008 5:28:17 PM

    iam ex military , we will fight this evil either on there turff or ours , these people want to kill us, they want absolute control to do thier evil ,I prefer to fight them on their turff , freedom isn't free ,never has been , all male members of my family have served their country and the cause of freedom for many generations , its not tradition ,its duty , we have lost some in combate for the cause of freedom , its going to be along fight , as we are fight those who run and hide ,and use innocent people ,women and chidren for cover ,to protect themselves , we need government people who understand this and who are qualified to command and make the critical decissions nessasary to to control these people and keep their agenda at bay , which is to kill and destroy our freedom

    • Posted By: onepatriot @ 07/27/2008 6:02:37 PM

      Our Constitution is already being destroyed where do you think we get our freedoms from and what oath did you give ex-military

  • Posted By: khairy11 @ 07/27/2008 5:01:47 PM

    as muslim i enjoy freedom of speech more than ever because i can tell someone like you argent ,in hill thinking you Ara better than Chins ,they are buying you coon heed. it is matter of time your impair will absolute am not american .i burn my green card at vietnam ware jerk. keep obama for yourself.
    you will never defeat Taliban .they more committed to there religion more than orthodex Jews madrasa in new york city. wake up it is not your fight ignerant. islam is coming you like it or not

    • Posted By: onepatriot @ 07/27/2008 5:37:48 PM

      I am a Christian and am pleased to meet my counter part in your part of the world. I have learned that most men where ever they live have a supreme power they pray to, mine is God my Father I always call him Father and I accept his son Jesus as the Christ Son of the living God. This is a hard world and there is so much anger between so called leaders that it's hard to make peace even at our level as ordinary men. I too am unhappy the way things are going in this world and there seems to be no way to solve it .
      I just want you to know that most the people I know are as unhappy with the ways things are going as you are. I wish I could make things better in this world but I can only pray to my God to help us all

  • Posted By: gcrowe @ 07/27/2008 5:24:26 PM

    jonh mccain told obama to go on a trip so he could learn something and he did. now mccain is angry because he did and learn more than mccain wanted him to. now mccain is crying that he should have been here and he was wrong to leave the states. you can't please this man no matter how you try. i feel sorry for the boys that are being destroyed for nothing. i call it a war crime wheh you sent boys to die because you hate the leader of another country. who got gall enough to take the person in the united states to court for it?

  • Posted By: sanityprevail @ 07/27/2008 4:15:41 PM

    oadyboy should be running for office! Lots of vague things that sound nice and wonderful, but ZERO specifics for exactly how one would go about implementing "prosperity!" You make it sound as if it's something we can put on a boat or a plane and ship right over to them in plentiful supply, when the leaders of THIS country haven't got a clue how to make it. Building Afghanistan into a stable and prosperous country is something that will take DECADES to do, and you can't just walk up to a terrorist on the street and say "hey buddy, how about a job, and you give me that gun?" Exactly why type of job are you going to give them? Building a road or a hospital? Yeah, right, well the problem with that is convincing the vast majority of them simultaneously that ending their fight is going to be worthwhile. That's not possible. Wake up and get a clue, then go back and push some more papers around your wildly successful company that you claim to be the "CEO" of.

  • Posted By: Flash McGruder @ 07/27/2008 3:45:13 PM

    This Newsweek reporter seems to be reporting on a lot of ???Chicken Little??? gossip and rumor which does not seem to have been verified and does not seem to be supported by objective evidence. That said, I find it disturbing that the quality of the military intelligence against the enemy seems to be so poor. Maybe this is because things are still being run by armchair military managers who are still looking at things from a large-scale perspective. These are the types that think that ???asymmetrical??? warfare is something new when it was used by us during the Revolutionary War (Francis Marion, the ???Swamp Fox???) and our Civil War (Jeb Stuart and John Moseby) and was also used against use in Viet Name (in the form of guerrillas).
    If Taliban is moving from one place to another we should be able to track them (including as soon as they come in from Pakistan) with technology or small units and then take them out at a place of our choosing. If they have observers tracking our guys, why can???t we be better at finding them first and taking them out? If Taliban fighters are moving toward our one of our bases, our guy???s should have tools to help them know about it so that they can set up a counter strike (How about Claymores with minicams? Some of this is a technology issue. So of this is having overlapping support, which would require the personnel and material support that Bush and Cheney and the DoD politicos had prevented at the outset.

  • Posted By: oadyboy @ 07/26/2008 8:50:57 PM

    Rather than bombing and destroying countries, wouldn't it be better to invest in them and create jobs and prosperity for both the people of the country as well as the people, corporations and goverments that make those investments. If there is a healthy economy and people have jobs, homes, utilities, a means of getting educated and a financially secure futture to look forward to, most likely they aren't going to strap a bomb on themselves.. People need to be given an environment that nurtures desire, detemination, dedication, development and a proud people; Not Desperation, Hopelessness and Despair.
    Let's not be mislead by the labels of the "War on............" slogans that the politicians and large corporations put out to the public. How long has the "War on Poverty" been fought? Do we have more or less poverty than in the past forty years?. Then there's the "War on Drugs" has that been won? Are there more or less drugs in this country since that war was declared? How are the big Corporations, Judges, Attorneys, Prison Administrators, DEA, , FBI, CIA, Homeland Security doing on the war on Drugs? Financially, they're doing quite well with the tax payers money. However, it would probably would be a real stretch to say that victory in the war is in sight.
    And of course there is the "War on Terror." This war seems to be very similar to the other wars that have been created by our politicians. Once again little or no progress is evident that this war is being won either nor is any type of victory on the horizon.
    What will be given the next " War on Label"...War on Farming Subsidies, War on Population Explosion, War on Global Warming. Is it possible we will have many, many more wars without ever winning?

    • Posted By: becca77 @ 07/26/2008 11:12:24 PM

      Wow! You have thought it all out, why can't the politicians figure it out.

      • Posted By: CombatVeteran79 @ 07/27/2008 10:28:51 AM

        you sound like a tree-hugging, hippie-freak!! DUH! yes investing in these countries and providing jobs, education and all the opportunities we have as AMERICANS is a good thought....but there is one problem...wait...actually thousands of problems and their running around with AK-47's or whatever weapons they have destroying their country as well as others. Security is needed, thats why as soldiers we are there to clean up the trash, then and only then investments and opportunities will arise!! Obviously you've never been to Iraq and no nothing about war and what IS actually going on...as a human-being you have every right to your opinion...but your as ignorant as they come...your probably voting for the talibans leader...obama..just go ind yourself a steep cliff to jump off of!!!

        • Posted By: oadyboy @ 07/27/2008 2:59:01 PM

          It's unfortunate that uneducated, uninformed people like you are led around like sheep by the politicians and Corporate Greed mongers. Let me clarify a few things for you since you seem to think you have so much insight into me. I'm a Viet Nam Vet, have an MBA, am CEO of a very successful corporation, volunteer my time to non-profit causes and have the ability to think for myself, not listen to a bunch of propaganda and think it's true or anywhere near reality. I don't need to go to Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran or any other of the middle eastern countries to understand the history, culture, political regimes and strategic as well as economic interests those countries might represent.
          Your analysis of the problem is very flawed; you obviously don't seem to grasp the ideal that prosperity and opportunity along with the other things i mentioned are far better deterants to combating insurgent behavior than any war and occupation upon a country and it's people. If that strategy were to be implemented we wouldn't have the problem as you see it; thousands of people running around with AK-47s killing everyone. They would be busy working their jobs, getting educations, sharing their prosperity with family, friends, neighbors and the community as a whole. Positve activities that make people happy and content for the most part.
          BTW, I'm not what you have referred to as a "Tree Hugger" i hug people not trees. It seems to me that you might need a hug yourself or better yet why don't you give someone a hug?

        • Posted By: BiteMeObama @ 07/27/2008 11:48:17 AM

          I think your ignorance really shows you war pig. Combat Veteran my ass where did you serve. I think you are the one who needs a bullet to your head. I am a vet and never sling buls*it like you do. If you have all the answers why dont you go back and fix it you narrow minded moron

  • Posted By: NeoPoliticus @ 07/27/2008 2:42:08 PM

    Anyone who interviews the Taliban and prints their propaganda is a terrorist. It's the news media that supported the terrorist bombings in Iraq.

  • Posted By: onefriendforyoutoday @ 07/27/2008 12:54:58 PM

    We need a MIRVed Intercontinental Ballistic Bubble Gum bomb. When exploded it will seek out terrorists and wrap them in delicious bubble-gum they can chew but cannot escape until they grow up and kiss Satan goodbye. Until then I think prayer is a primary weapon not fully utilized. This is a God sized problem. Short of extinguishing the Islamic world there is no solution. SATAN HAS STARTED A LOT OF RELIGIONS SINCE ADAM, AND ISLAM MAY BE ONE OF THE WORST.

    • Posted By: installpros @ 07/27/2008 2:41:37 PM

      Satan come on get real what we have is religious extremest that have been fighting for centuries,the only difference is that we has americans don't know how to mind our own business.Secure our borders and let them kill each other.Protect our airspace and build good in our own country.Regardless who becomes president white black male female nothing will change until we realize that charity starts at home.You hate satan fine then find god whatever works.Islamic Christian Mormon Catholic it doesn't matter what your beliefs are as long as you believe in something and quit blaming a non existent entity on our worlds troubles.

  • Posted By: misterharban @ 07/27/2008 1:52:11 PM

    Has anybody considered asking either candidate what our mission in Afghanistan is or should be? What will define victory in Afghanistan? Perhaps when the Taliban are no longer active there, but what if that is simply the result of the Taliban successfully relocating to a nuclear armed Pakistan? And what if the result of a total Taliban relocation to Pakistan is the evolution of a muslim extremist governed Pakistan? Will we chase them into Pakistan as Obama once blithely suggested? And at what cost, and for what objective?

    The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. And the conflict in Afghanistan looks so much purer, so much more justifiable for now, than our war in Iraq. Afghanistan, right now, is just another Iraq, but without economic or military power. Pakistan, on the other hand, will be a ripe plum if our adventure in Afghanistan results in Pakistan???s transformation into a radical muslim nation. What will either candidate do then? What price will we be willing to pay to stop that?

    Or is this military adventure possibly more hopeless than many thought Iraq to be just twelve months ago? As presumptive president, Obama (and McCain) is prescribing a surge for Afghanistan much like the one which he was certain would not work a year ago. How high will he allow the stakes to go? Clear to the mat with a nuclear armed Taliban?

    Simply transferring the issue from Iraq to Afghanistan does not increase the likelihood of success, does not consider the value of undertaking that conflict and certainly is naïve about just how deeply pursuing that rabbit might take us into a hole. It seems obvious that many Democrats would relish the prospects of pinning a defeat in Iraq on Bush. They should consider the possibility that defeat in Iraq might be followed by a harsher defeat at the hands of a nuclear armed enemy in Pakistan, when we discover that we are pursuing a goal which might not be worth the cost of attaining it. Its not that we cannot win, it will be when our leaders conclude that the prize is not worth the price.

  • Posted By: khairy11 @ 07/27/2008 1:47:06 PM

    who gave dam about you or obame . both of you scumbag any way.
    you want bomb all middle east what about Iran jack ass.
    future belong to Islam and muslim . i am muslim

  • Posted By: Sigonella @ 07/27/2008 1:35:15 PM

    Could the person who wrote the article be PAKISTANI TALIBAN? His name sounds a bit like he could be.

  • Posted By: Sigonella @ 07/27/2008 1:32:18 PM

    The writer should be writing for National Enquirer. Coalition and US forces certainly need him to tell the world that insurgents are hiding in the alleyways. He has a personal invitation to come to San Antonio, Texas to the southside and write about the gangs who crawl out of the woodwork at night. Not unlike those who live in Kabul, won't catch many residents traveling in that area.
    I work in Kabul and am tired of big-mouth reporters making our efforts meaningless.

  • Posted By: American Airstrike @ 07/27/2008 1:30:30 PM

    United States of America will slit any throats that try to overtake us.

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