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  • Posted By: Radrunner @ 07/29/2008 7:47:10 AM

    We're all in a hurry, but there are two things to remember... simple courtesy and physics. Simple courtesy means you are ALWAYS aware of others around you and yield the right away not only as law but as courtesy. Bicycles are more vulnerable but they can often (not always) stop more quickly more easily unless they're pedaling all out... which they shouldn't be. It's called having your vehicle under control at all times. Motorists should watch for bicycles when the car is entering/exiting the roadway, and bicyclists really should keep to the extreme edge of the roadway, in their 'paths' if provided. Then there's Physics... CAR BIGGER, Bicycle smaller, bicycler squishier. Don't challenge tons of steel with your body because you believe the law says you have the right of way. Right of way does not mean that a bicyclist can withstand the impact of tons of metal. Right of way doesn't mean that you can 'bump' a bicyclist with your car or bull your way around. Regardless of right of way... everyone should be prepared to stop, you are supposed to be 'alert', aware... and if you're impeding traffic, PULL OVER... don't put yourself at risk and don't make cars swerve to avoid you or stomp their brakes... that just means someone behind or beside them will probably crash into them, or get hit, etc. GROW UP. Bicyclists can use reason, and 'pause' or 'slow' for stops when there's NO ONE around, in range, etc. (famous last words)... but -really- pause/slow/look. Bicycles just need to yield more often for their own safety, cars need to be more aware because it's just the right thing to do. And if bicyclists are on the road, they need insurance and property licensing to pay for the privilege. Driving IS a privilege. I once came around a corner to find school kids riding their bicycles down the MIDDLE of the lane of a busy paved main road... because their teacher said they had a right to ride on the street. I told them not to ride in the middle... basically ;). Learning/teaching takes some effort, belligerence doesn't. It's not about 'rights'... 'us' vs 'them'. Bicyclists have to yield to physics, Motorists have to yield to safety... not just what some law says we have the right to do. Lastly, in my opinion, bicyclists do have to respect that motorists are the primary users (yes, they are)... and I like bikes. Unfortunately too many people lack simple courtesy, patience, good will, etc.

  • Posted By: lpsnowbell @ 07/29/2008 4:45:54 AM

    Along with the "right" (actually priviledge) to use the road as a bicyclist or motorist also comes the responsibility to go by the rules that have been established. Dear bicyclists, those stop signs and red lights may be a pain, but they apply to you (and me, when I ride a bike), too. It's as simple as that.

    • Posted By: MoPiDo @ 07/29/2008 7:44:09 AM

      Cyclists stopping at stop signs is absolutely a neccessity. Cyclists rolling a stop sign is no less dangerous than a car doing the same. It actually poses a greater risk for the cyclists as they are slower moving and harder to see by cross traffic. Traffic lights are another thing altogether. A cyclist should always stop at the light but waiting for it to turn green is another issue. Most traffic lights are made to accommodate mototrists. The road and camera sensors don't always (or never in my area) see a cyclist so you are left sitting there until a car approaches the intersection from your rear, you get off your bike and press the crosswalk button (if there is one) or you slowly and safely make your way through the intersection. All of these choices have their hazards and frustratiions for both motorists and cyclists.

  • Posted By: rthunder @ 07/29/2008 7:39:28 AM

    As an avid cyclist I am often ashamed of my fellow cyclist for their disregard for motorists. I strongly believe in the phrase "Share the Road" and see many of my fellow cyclists riding two abreast and not allowing cars to pass them safely, not using hand signals, not stopping at lights and other asocial behaviors. In my many years of cycling I have only been accosted once by a motorist and he was obviously drunk. Share the Road means just that. As cyclists we can do much more to make the roads a safer place for all users.

  • Posted By: rthunder @ 07/29/2008 7:37:54 AM

    As an avid cyclist I am often ashamed of my fellow cyclist for their disregard for motorists. I strongly believe in the phrase "Share the Road" and see many of my fellow cyclists riding two abreast and not allowing cars to pass them safely, not using hand signals, not stopping at lights and other asocial behaviors. In my many years of cycling I have only been accosted once by a motorist and he was obviously drunk. Share the Road means just that. As cyclists we can do much more to make the roads a safer place for all users.

  • Posted By: jviets @ 07/29/2008 3:23:29 AM

    Try being polite to a bike rider and you get the finger and called a b**ch. I came to a four way stop in my vehicle, saw a man on a bike half way thru the crosswalk and motined him to cross. The next thing I know is he is yelling at me and flipping me off for the courtesy wave to enter thru. This kind of disrespect made the rest of my day feeling crap! I was hit by a car when I was 6 yrs old by my own fault. I will always give peds and cyclists the room they need but when people are just plain mean it makes me sick!

    • Posted By: dragonmaster69 @ 07/29/2008 7:34:15 AM

      Im sorry that happend to you not all of us on bicycles are like that.Have a nice day,relax and just smile just knowing that you are nicer than that dumbass.

  • Posted By: marc201 @ 07/29/2008 7:34:01 AM

    They need to liscense and tax bikes. Bicycle plates may make them more respectful of cars and the law. I live in Chicago and the bikes here are very out of control. I think the cities (all of them) should fine bikers for not obwying the very same laws they expect cars to obey. In the end I think they are mainly just abucnh of spoiled, arrogant jerks with no real cause so they take this one. I CANT STAND CYCLIST!

  • Posted By: Hokeypokie3336 @ 07/29/2008 7:14:39 AM

    I live in Knoxville, Tennessee where most of our cycling takes place outside of the city. In the spring and summer there are many cyclists dressed up in there Tour de France clothes pedaling around Knox County. Problem is that Knox County is an urban environment with a rural road system. My biggest complaint is that these bikers feel that they are completely above any traffic laws. They blow through stop signs and red lights. They change lanes without warning. They block traffic. I understand that motorized vehicles must yeild to bike traffic but it seems that bicyclist feel that this means they can run all over motorists. I think it is the errogance of the cyclists that burns most people. I dirve around seeing motorists throw thrash out their winndows at cyclists. Blow their horns at them, Curse them. It is a new road rage brought on by the cyclists disregard for traffic laws, general safety and errogance.

  • Posted By: Hokeypokie3336 @ 07/29/2008 7:13:26 AM

    I live in Knoxville, Tennessee where most of our cycling takes place outside of the city. In the spring and summer there are many cyclists dressed up in there Tour de France clothes pedaling around Knox County. Problem is that Knox County is an urban environment with a rural road system. My biggest complaint is that these bikers feel that they are completely above any traffic laws. They blow through stop signs and red lights. They change lanes without warning. They block traffic. I understand that motorized vehicles must yeild to bike traffic but it seems that bicyclist feel that this means they can run all over motorists. I think it is the errogance of the cyclists that burns most people. I dirve around seeing motorists throw thrash out their winndows at cyclists. Blow their horns at them, Curse them. It is a new road rage brought on by the cyclists disregard for traffic laws, general safety and errogance.

  • Posted By: dragonmaster69 @ 07/29/2008 7:10:39 AM

    I live in okc,ok and ride my bicycle just about everywhere,and the drivers here rude crude and need to stay off the cell phone when they are driving.They also should give us bicyclists just a lilltle room on the road,and keep your commets to your self.Is it really the hard to use your turnsignals when driving?and stopping at stpolights and stop signs?If you want to say something to a cyclist just say hi or have a nice day,nothing else.

  • Posted By: Nightster @ 07/29/2008 7:03:06 AM

    I ride a Harley and I have to obey the Laws the same as if I were in my 4 wheeler and these Bycyclists act like they are above the traffic laws
    They do not stop for red lights or stop signs or at RailRoad crossings let alone signal for turns on top of all that for the most part they are very RUDE and think that they own the road..... Shame on you Biker Trash

  • Posted By: dragonmaster69 @ 07/29/2008 7:02:48 AM

    I live in oklahoma and ride a bicycle just about everywhere,the drivers here are not bicycle friendly,Ive been run off the road yelled at cussed at, but have not been hit yet.We have very few bike lanes,some pathe along the rivers and just last year they just put bike racks on the busses.T o the people driving cars if you want to say something to a bicyclist just say hi or have a nice ride,nothing else.

  • Posted By: durango42 @ 07/29/2008 6:55:20 AM

    I feel if cyclists are going to use the same street's / road's that motor vehicles use.The cyclists must be required to carry vehicle insurance / operators license / vehicle tags.Just think of the additional tax revenue this would create for all of the city's.

  • Posted By: durango42 @ 07/29/2008 6:55:05 AM

    I feel if cyclists are going to use the same street's / road's that motor vehicles use.The cyclists must be required to carry vehicle insurance / operators license / vehicle tags.Just think of the additional tax revenue this would create for all of the city's.

  • Posted By: PAmomof3 @ 07/29/2008 6:51:13 AM

    I know it's old school, but there ARE road rules for byciclists too! Stopping at red lights, watching the area aroung you, hand signalling for turns, riding you bike with traffic and not against it, etc. are all things that we learned back in the day.
    If this is going to become the "norm", there has to be a courtesy between bicyclists and drivers. What would happen if a car pulled out in front of a bike??

  • Posted By: Ole Coyote @ 07/29/2008 6:39:25 AM

    Hell, thought they were talking about M/C bikers. Some of those peddlers have a real attitude worse than us H-D riders.

  • Posted By: Ole Coyote @ 07/29/2008 6:36:57 AM

    Hell, I thought they were talking about us bikers (MC). Just as bad some new bikr riders have attitude.

  • Posted By: shiftgood2 @ 07/29/2008 6:23:33 AM

    GOD demands the glory from great people..HENSE GREAT LOVERS: BIKES tend to "look:" bad. Praise Jah!!

  • Posted By: shiftgood2 @ 07/29/2008 6:22:12 AM

    GOD DEMANDS THE CREDIT FOR GOOD PEOPLE...HENSE GREST BICYCLERS "LOOK" BAD PTL!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: Hyprdrv @ 07/29/2008 6:12:25 AM

    Weaving in traffic, riding up the right side while traffic is stopped into a right turn lane that cars begin to fill, riding up the left side through a left turn lane, riding between traffic at a light, not allowing traffic to pass on hills or narrow roads. The majority of bike riders on public roads are ignorant of the laws and think they have the right of way and get special treatment. A better understanding on both sides is needed of the laws. In most cases there is very few differences.

  • Posted By: kensub @ 07/29/2008 6:00:44 AM

    All roads with 2 lanes or more should have 1 lane dedicated to Bikes, Mopeds, Skate boards and any other means of transportation that either uses no fuel or gets atlease 70 MPG. They should be monitored with cameras and heavy fines issued for voilators who drive a car in this lane.

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