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A McCain TV spot falsely insinuates that Obama canceled his visit because "the Pentagon wouldn't allow him to bring cameras."

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  • Posted By: loriw @ 08/11/2008 9:09:16 PM

    I rarely post anything negative about Sen. Obama but I have to say on this one I was very disappointed that he did not keep his "appointment" with the injured soldiers. Ok so he couldn't bring cameras and the person he had advising him. So what....go alone but go anyway! You know news like a big celeb or politician coming to visit the soldiers gets around quickly and I bet that more than a few of these soldiers very much wanted to meet Sen. Obama. Let's face it- they are injured and hospitalized an ocean away from home and probably would love to talk with someone from "home" besides their drs and nurses. Imagine the lift to their spirits that Obama's brief visit would have brought. Sen. Obama spent a very large part of this European visit talking to people that aren't Americans, so would it have been so bad to spend even an hour talking with a few of our injured military people. I'm sorry but I think Obama owed them at least that much, after all he is now telling us that he is not going to end the war quickly like he initially did so some of these injured may very well be going back to fight again before it's all said and done. Sen. Obama you blew it on this one. BTW I have a son-in-law in Iraq. So I am watching very carefully how you treat our soldiers and on this one you lost points in my personal opinion poll.

    • Posted By: repub4obama @ 08/19/2008 5:38:19 PM

      Oh well look on the bright side you right wing conservative whack job if your boy McBush wins he'll have plenty of chances to visit dying soldiers in Iraq and soon Iran and probably a few more countries if your right wing conservative war machine has it's way.
      Save America kill a conservative

  • Posted By: ICYEYES800 @ 08/04/2008 10:21:58 PM

    Some people just post anything on these blogs WITHOUT any research....McCain has been to Iraq many,many times and continues to offer his support and well wishes to the TROOPS, after all, he was one of those guys...Just remember, do we want a patriot, or a crack head???
    The staged event in Germany is just that....does anyone really believe that German people walk around with American flags tucked in their pants???? NO, consider the FACT that those people could NOT undersand what he was saying and I doubt sincerely that any of them were sober enough to care what he said...think about it..he handed out flags, paid those guys a few bucks and grabbed the PHOTO OP...Unfortunately, he thought erronously that the American people would be more impressed with his world tour, than a picture of him consoling some wounded WARRIOR/PATRIOT....JUST SAY NO TO O

    • Posted By: howsoonisnow @ 08/08/2008 6:08:33 PM

      Research this: what percatage of German students have studied English (hint- it's a lot higher than your IQ or the percetage of American students who have studied German). Also, please tell me that you're not serious when you "doubt sincerely that any of them were sober enough to care what he said." (The last portion of your remark might lead readers to question whether you yourself are not syntactically challenged by the English language). Finally, I can't help but wonder if you're not smoking or sniffing something Machiavellian when you state that McCain "continues to offer his support and well wishes to the TROOPS" while voting against any increase in troop benefits or improvement in vet care . I guess you're just another armchair WARRIOR/PATRIOT.....

    • Posted By: howsoonisnow @ 08/08/2008 5:51:38 PM

      Research this: what percatage of german students study English as a second language? Also, please tell me that you aren't serious when you "doubt sincerely that any of them were sober enough to care what he said." Yeah, John McCain continues to offer his support to the troops- except for a little negative vote here or there that might actually improve their care and benefits. Well, at least I'm somewhat consoled by the fact that you're not running for president.!

  • Posted By: halfbruthaguy @ 08/05/2008 1:27:42 PM

    A patriot or a crackhead? Who is this crackhead that you speak of? Barack Obama is not Marion Berry. I am not in any way an Obama supporter, but trying to suggest that he is a crackhead is ludicrous. Hell, while he has done drugs in the past, just look at the pattern that we have followed in the past two administrations. Bill Clinton the pothead followed by George Bush the cokehead. I guess that going with crack next would fit our countrys' direction.

  • Posted By: halfbruthaguy @ 08/05/2008 1:26:50 PM

    A patriot or a crackhead? Who is this crackhead that you speak of? Barack Obama is not Marion Berry. I am not in any way an Obama supporter, but trying to suggest that he is a crackhead is ludicrous. Hell, while he has done drugs in the past, just look at the pattern that we have followed in the past two administrations. Bill Clinton the pothead followed by George Bush the cokehead. I guess that going with crack next would fit our countrys' direction.

  • Posted By: Markdsade @ 07/31/2008 1:24:31 PM

    Even if we had more refineries ... what makes you believe that the oil companies ... Amreican or not would sell it to us cheap? The issue is demand. Irrespective of the flow ... we are now competing with China and India for oil. Gas and Oil are not in short supply. what is in short supply is cheap gas and cheap oil.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/01/2008 9:38:09 AM

      There is enough supply of oil being pumped out now. Speculators gobbling it up is what is keeping the price of oil high. The price of gas is high because of the lack of refining.

      • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/03/2008 9:14:49 PM

        Your right, I meant to say that Obama has gone to see the troops more in 2008 than Mccain has.

  • Posted By: salacity1955 @ 08/01/2008 9:21:10 AM

    From our friend who is serving in Afghanistan


    Hello everyone,
    As you know I am not a very political person. I just
    wanted to pass along that Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for
    about an hour on his visit to 'The War Zone'. I wanted to share with you
    what happened.
    He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof
    vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who is
    the commander here at Bagram.

    As the Soldiers where lined up to shake his hand he blew
    them off and didn't say a word as he went into the conference room to
    meet the General. As he finished, the vehicles took him to the ClamShell
    (pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can play basketball
    or work out in with weights) so he could take his publicity pictures
    playing basketball. He again shunned the opportunity to talk to Soldiers
    to thank them for their service.

    So really he was just here to make a showing for the
    American's back home that he is their candidate for President. I think
    that if you are going to make an effort to come all the way over here
    you would thank those that are providing the freedom that they are
    providing for you.

    I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball
    Players or the Dallas Cowboy Cheer leaders than from one of the
    Senators, who wants to be the President of the United States. I just
    don't understand how anyone would want him to be our
    Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around those
    that provide the freedom for him and our great country.

    If this is blunt and to the point I
    am sorry but I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he
    really is. What you see in the news is all fake.

    In service,
    CPT Jeffrey S. Porter
    Battle Captain
    TF Wasatch
    America n Soldier



    • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/03/2008 9:12:25 PM

      Nice speech, only one problem, the news showed Obama shaking soldiers hands and talking to them in his visits to Afghanistan and Iraq. If you believe the news was fake, you must also beleive the war in Iraq has already been won, that the economy isn't going downhill, that tapping the public phones and limiting the powers of state government is okay, that we're safe because of the Iraq war, that Obama is Muslim, and that Global warming is a myth. So whatever you say or believe, it's either false or unbelievable, like you.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/01/2008 9:33:41 AM

      This letter has been proven to be false!!!

      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp

      Sorry folks there are many malicious emails going around about BOTH candidates.

  • Posted By: Gurman Bal @ 07/30/2008 6:19:47 PM

    McCain and his mentors Bush & Cheney CAUSED those troops in Iraq to become wounded. The McCain-Cheney-Bush Iraq War, built on lies about WMDs, lies about Saddam and Osama tag teaming, led to these brave soldiers, airmen, sailors and marines sustaining injuries. Please, Senator Obama, squash this old bug!

    • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/30/2008 6:42:31 PM

      The vote to authorize force was almost unanimous, including democrats. The MSM failed to challenge the baloney Bush and his crew were issuing as intelligence, just like they are not challenging Obama's credentials. Why? Because WMDs make good copy, engage audiences, and get good market share, just like Obama does.

      Why kill the golden goose that keeps laying the golden eggs? Obama is spending more than any candidate has ever spent on advertising -- do you wonder why he is the darling of the MSM?

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 07/30/2008 6:58:44 PM

        The vote to authorize force is also based on misinformation to those who voted. The information was calculated and false. We invaded for nothing.

        • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/30/2008 8:01:14 PM

          Correct on that one. I opposed the war from the beginning, taking all kinds of flack from my family and friends because I refused to agree that Sadam had WMD's or that there was any immanent reason to invade or any danger posed to the US by Sadam. I was making home made bumper stickers informing my fellow citizens of the death toll as it rose, which caused some near misses on the interstate as people suffered from their road rage at my insistance on the truth.

          Obama isn't the only one who opposed the war, but he is the only one who is acting like that is all he has to have done to merit the American trust. I don't trust him. Rev. Wright knew him for twenty years, and I believe he had reason to be saying what he said. Based on my own investigations, Rev. Wright was right, Obama will say and do whatever he thinks he needs to say and do to get elected and stay in power. That's pretty scary in today's world.

          People drank the koolaid and voted for Bush and supported the war in Iraq because the MSM was behind it and helped him push it. We don't need to let the MSM pick our next president with biased reporting and commentary.

          • Posted By: Cashew @ 08/03/2008 9:32:44 AM

            The reporting on MSMBC is so one-sided it is unbelievable to a wise person. If it is negative and makes Obama look bad the newroom jumps on that ad, nomatter how wrong it is so that the propragand will be embeded in your mine until you believe it. Why doesn't any of the major TV stations tell what the real concerns of the American people are. Sorry, they do mention it in passing, but hone in on trash, mostly against the Democrate Parth. I for one have voted Republican for 48 years but not this time .

          • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/01/2008 6:51:23 AM

            Wait, Obama is doing and saying whatever he has to to become president, yet Mccain isn't. Obama is lying yet Mccain isn't. Do you not watch the new or have internet, or are you just a moron. Your saying the media is being soft on Obama yet hard on Mccain. Yet there have been numerous flip-flops and mishaps Mccain has made that have been censored and cut out, yet when Obama makes even the tiniest mistake it's blown out of proportion yet they're being hard on Mccain and soft on Obama. Do you even listen to yourself? You don't trust Obama yet you do trust a guy who has made more flip-flops than a pancake flipper. Have you even heard about Mccain's reverand who believes the Holocaust was gods way of punishing the Jews. That he sent Hitler like an angel of death to exterminate the Jews. You only look at the few negatives of Obama, yet turn a blind eye to the enormous amount of negatives Mccain has. You know the war you oppose so much, did you know in one of Mccains speeches he would continue the war for up to 100 years if he had to. You need to stop looking at Obama and start paying attention to the candidate you are supporting. Oh and by the way, if Obama was elected president, he would end the war and bring the troops back in a period of 16 months, if you've been paying attention to any of his positive aspects, you would know that.

  • Posted By: Cashew @ 08/03/2008 9:08:07 AM

    If the public is going to buy this for McCain then and believe it, why doesn't the press tell how McCain left his invalid wife for one of the nation's richest women. Does McCain really care if you are injured or helpless or poor. Who character are we questioning here. Dirt and insinuation are for the cheapest shots when you believe you can't win . Why doesn't McCain visit a homeless shelter and see my son and his two children born in America . He can't find work, yet the is a very hard worker, because in America if yo don't speak Spanish you can't find work.

  • Posted By: getalifeVirginia @ 07/29/2008 12:03:49 PM

    McCain does not insinuate anything. Obama was told he couldn't bring the media or his campaign staff so he decided not to go. Simple. You must be terribly desperate for news to make up such a silly story.

    Of course what you said says more about YOU than about McCain.

    You poor dear...

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 07/29/2008 1:44:17 PM

      did anyone read this article before commenting on it!? i'm gonna go out on a limb and say no

      • Posted By: okie47 @ 07/30/2008 7:57:57 PM

        I received an email from a friend's son who is serving in Afganistan. When Obama landed there he was immediately escorted to his car and driven to a meeting with some high ranking general. Obama then left there and went for a photo shoot of him playing basketball. Everytime Obama passed by the troops he didn't even acknowledge them. After his basketball game, Obama showered, changed, and left on his plane. YEAH he really cares. Obama is a wannabe. He loves the "Rock Star" lifestyle. But what about if he becomes president? He has no idea how to even run a business much less a country. Do I agree with everything that President Bush has done? No, but then if anyone says they totally agree with a president or anyone else then they are totally blind to what is going on. If you know anything about how our country is run, you would know that the president cannot do anything without the ok of Congress. In the past 2 years that the Democrats have had control of Congress our country has gone from having a surplus to being so far in debt that it will take years to get out. The only thing Obama says is that "he" will give us a national health plan, "he" will give us this and that and just be mister wonderful. Well SORRY but Obama can give us NOTHING. Too many of you have either forgotten or are to ignorant to know that WE are the government and WE are the ones that will end up paying for all these programs. Obama even admitted in an interview that he had never read the Consitiution of The United States. My I suggest that anyone who has not read it do so. It tells exactly what this country is all about. Seems to me if you want to be a leader of a country you would do your homework and find out the values of the country.

        • Posted By: raddave @ 08/01/2008 10:16:26 AM

          There has not been a budget surplus since 2000, the year that Bush was elected president. That was not of his making, but the previous administration, A DEMOCRAT. In every year that Bush has been president our country has had a record budget deficit.

        • Posted By: raddave @ 08/01/2008 10:14:20 AM

          One more time, the source of this email was not a friend's son, It was from a mass email that is circulating the internet and has been proven false. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp

  • Posted By: debdeb @ 07/29/2008 1:22:50 PM

    Am I missing something? Obama knew long before his decision not to visit the troops that the press wouldn't be allowed to go...it's Pentagon rules. So his decision not to go could not have been based on this fact. Some people hear....but they don't really listen.

    • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/29/2008 6:10:56 PM

      It was his campaign staff he was trying to get in to take the pictures, not the press.

      Wasn't about the servicemen and women at all, was all about Obama.

      Poor Obama, didn't get his way, wasn't anything in it for him, so he decided not to go.

      • Posted By: raddave @ 07/30/2008 2:14:15 PM

        It was not his campaign staff, he wanted to visit along with a retired Lt. Gen. who is a volunteer on Obama's staff.

        • Posted By: okie47 @ 07/30/2008 8:30:24 PM

          Obama could have visited our wounded servicemen and women but he when he was told that one member of his group could not go Obama canceled the visitation. Now that's a leader! He could have gone by himself but did he? NO. I have a very good friend who has a son in Afganistan. When Obama arrived there, he got off his plane and immediately went to his car. He was driven to a meeting with the big wig general and was there for quite some time. After Obama finished with his meeting, he went to the tent where the soldiers have some relaxation time, and had a photo opt of him playing basketball. After the photo opt, Obama cleaned up, got on his plane and left. All the photos that were taken were all staged and Obama snubbed all the service people there. Obama is what we use to call a "con man". If you watch the old movies, "The Rain Maker" and "The Music Man" you will see Obama. Obama admitted on a tv interview that he has never read our American Consitiution. How can you know what our country stands for if you have never studied our national documents? I would much rather have someone as president that understands what being an American is all about. Do you really want someome who has no idea what being a president is all about. This position is not ment for "on the job trainning". Obama keeps telling us about all the things "he" is going to do for us. Well first of all "he" can't do anything without Congress, secondly, anything "he" comes up with is going to cost money and "We" are the ones who will pay for it. Everything Obama has campagined about was tried in the 1930's and 1960's. All of these things (oil, economy, health care, etc) failed miserably. All they did was put us into a recession that almost burried us, gas lines and reationing. If you don't study history, you will repeat it. Obama keeps comparing himself to president Kennedy. He is NOTHING LIKE KENNEDY!! Kennedy said "Ask NOT what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country". He knew that if we did not take pride in our country and work rigiously to keep it great it would not last. It does not matter if you are a democrate or republican, you need to do your homework and vote for the person who is going to do the best job for the entire country. I for one do not want a "Rock Star" for my president. A war veteran who has experience in the areas that a president needs has my vote everytime.

          • Posted By: raddave @ 08/01/2008 10:12:34 AM

            Obama cancelled the trip because he felt it would be percieved, and rightly so, that his visit would be seen as political. The source of this about Obama is not a son of a close friend of yours, it is from a mass email that has been proven false!!! http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp Obama did not play basketball in Afghanistan, it was in Kuwait.

            Obama has never admitted to not reading the Constitution. Obama went to law school and one of the things they study in law school is the U.S. Constituion. Obama taught Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago for twelve years.

            ALL politicians talk about what he or she is going to do if elected. Everyone knows that it cannot be done alone and must include Congress.

            ALL campaigns have been about those issues. There was no rationing of gas in the 1930s or 1960s. It was rationed in the 1040s during WWII. You know when Germany had control of most foreign oil supplies and most of our supplies were going for the war effort.

            Obama is not a Rock Star, he has never been in a Rock band. Hell, I don't know if he even can play an instrument.

    • Posted By: Mimi13 @ 07/29/2008 6:17:20 PM

      Yes, you are missing something. The Pentagon did not release it's memo on the hospital visit until after Obama landed in Europe.

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 07/29/2008 6:24:17 PM

        Wouldn't it be grand if they read the entire article?

  • Posted By: jordanadah @ 07/30/2008 4:58:35 PM

    McCain is such a liar. He had an ad blaming the whole energy crisis on Obama when he's the one whose been in the senate forever and has never done anything to prevent this. Now he's got one out there comparing Obama with britney and paris. What?! McCain has obviouly lost his marbles.

    • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/30/2008 6:31:35 PM

      Nope, McCain is only blaming Obama for his continued refusal to let development of the resources we have in this country, offshore drilling to be specific, come to the floor for a vote. Even the prospect of that additional supply will bring the futures for oil down, will encourage the OPEC countries to pump more oil now while the prices are high and we are dependent on them.

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 07/30/2008 7:01:18 PM

        McCain switched three times in five months.

        • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/30/2008 8:10:32 PM

          Obama swtiches from day to day. Here's a quote from Obama that says it all: "The nature of politics is that you want to have everybody like you and project the best possible traits onto you," he says. "Oftentimes, that's by being as vague as possible, or appealing to the lowest common denominators."

          • Posted By: raddave @ 08/01/2008 9:47:37 AM

            ALL politicians try to be a vague as possible.

      • Posted By: raddave @ 07/31/2008 10:10:54 AM

        Obama is not the Senate Majority leader, who allows resolutions to come to the floor for a vote. Since you seem like a Hillary Clinto supporter, you should also be aware that she has also opposed new oil leases.

        • Posted By: raddave @ 07/31/2008 10:12:13 AM

          Sorry I meant Hillary Clinton. Also if OPEC were to pump more oil, it will not decrease the cost of gas, because refineries are already opperating at full capacity.

  • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/01/2008 6:28:52 AM

    You know what I find funny here is that it says John Mccain is here for our troops and Obama isn't. Yet in the past year, Obama has visited troops in Iraq three times, and Mccain hasn't gone once. Oh yeah, and Mccain also voted against funding our troops as well as voted against benefits for war veterans. Aren't these ads just hilarious.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/01/2008 9:45:42 AM

      Your statement is false. Before this summer Obama had not been to Iraq since 2006. John McCain was in Iraq in 2006 and 2007. The rest, however, is correct.

  • Posted By: salacity1955 @ 08/01/2008 9:20:23 AM

    I received this email from a friend who forwarded it to me,
    From our friend who is serving in Afghanistan


    Hello everyone,
    As you know I am not a very political person. I just
    wanted to pass along that Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for
    about an hour on his visit to 'The War Zone'. I wanted to share with you
    what happened.
    He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof
    vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who is
    the commander here at Bagram.

    As the Soldiers where lined up to shake his hand he blew
    them off and didn't say a word as he went into the conference room to
    meet the General. As he finished, the vehicles took him to the ClamShell
    (pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can play basketball
    or work out in with weights) so he could take his publicity pictures
    playing basketball. He again shunned the opportunity to talk to Soldiers
    to thank them for their service.

    So really he was just here to make a showing for the
    American's back home that he is their candidate for President. I think
    that if you are going to make an effort to come all the way over here
    you would thank those that are providing the freedom that they are
    providing for you.

    I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball
    Players or the Dallas Cowboy Cheer leaders than from one of the
    Senators, who wants to be the President of the United States. I just
    don't understand how anyone would want him to be our
    Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around those
    that provide the freedom for him and our great country.

    If this is blunt and to the point I
    am sorry but I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he
    really is. What you see in the news is all fake.

    In service,
    CPT Jeffrey S. Porter
    Battle Captain
    TF Wasatch
    American Soldier





    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/01/2008 9:35:12 AM

      This letter has been proven to be false!!!

      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/afghanistan.asp

      Sorry folks there are many malicious emails going around about BOTH candidates.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 07/30/2008 4:22:16 AM

    McCain: ???I Said We Would Have An Easy Victory??? In Iraq And ???We Did???»
    In late 2002 and early 2003, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was a fixture on cable television, assuring Americans that an invasion of Iraq would be ???easy.??? ???I believe that the success will be fairly easy,??? McCain told CNN in September 2002. ???We will win this conflict. We will win it easily,??? he told MSNBC the following January.

    Over the years, McCain has often claimed that he made never made rosy predictions, saying in 2006 that he ???fully understood from the beginning??? that Iraq ???would be a very, very difficult undertaking.??? In January 2007, however, he wasn???t sure what he believed. First, he said that he knew it was ???going to be long and hard and tough,??? but six days later he claimed, ???I said the military operation would be easy. It was easy.???

    On Larry King Live last night, when asked about the decision to invade, McCain went back to saying that he predicted America would have ???an easy victory??? and that ???we did???:

    MCCAIN: I think we did the right thing. I think that it was a colossal intelligence failure on the part of the United States and every other county as to whether he had them or not. But again, I would remind you, I said we would have an easy victory. We did.

    Watch it:



    Just as he can???t figure out his current position on timetables, McCain can???t keep his rhetoric straight on whether he???s a cheerleader or critic of the Iraq war. As Matt Duss points out in the Wonk Room, McCain believes it???s ???a job for the historians??? to figure out if invading Iraq was a good decision.

    With his haphazard declaration that the initial invasion was ???an easy victory??? and his refusal to reconsider the decision to invade, McCain ignores the numerous disastrous consequences of that invasion, including over 4,000 U.S. soldiers killed and over 30,000 wounded.

    Transcript:

    KING: If this would go back, start all over again, would you go into Iraq if you could go back?

    MCCAIN: I think the world is better off knowing what I know at the time and the fact that Saddam Hussein was bent on acquiring weapons of mass destruction, $12 billion Oil for Food scandal. American airplanes were being shot at. Sanctions were breaking down. It???s clear that he wanted to go back and acquire weapons of mass destruction and use them. I don???t think there is any doubt. I think we did the right thing. I think that it was a colossal intelligence failure on the part of the United States and every other county as to whether he had them or not. But again, I would remind you, I said we would have an easy victory. We did.

    And then we employed the wrong strategy which doomed us to failure and we were losing this war when I said we had to have this new strategy all along and stoop up for it when most political pundits said that my career was finished.

    • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/30/2008 9:51:50 AM

      We did have an easy military victory, it was what was done afterwards which doomed the mission to failure. How could a weak country like Iraq stand against the most powerful military in the world?

      Combat troops are not trained to be peace keepers and diplomats. It was the failure to plan for and address the insurgency and to establish a political system that would work with the tribal social organizations that created the mess. It was Bush's total failure to adhere to the rule of law, both in the US and abroad which has undermined our stature in the world.

      Bush is an idiot. McCain has opposed torture and denial of due process from the beginning.

      As for Obama going into dangerous areas, I guess he wanted it to be dangerous, but had to take his flak jacket off because it was too hot and it wasn't as dangerous as he wanted it to appear.

      AS for the "fact finding" tour he took with two other senators, why didn't he go with McCain oh that fact finding tour? Why make taxpayers pay twice?

      Oh no, McCain ruined Obama's big surprise visit, NOT! Obama was taking the media with him, was broadcasting his plans to the world with daily publicity on what was supposed to be a "fact finding" tour.

      As a taxpayer, I resent being asked to pay for Obama's politically motivated photo ops.

      • Posted By: raddave @ 07/30/2008 2:33:18 PM

        Many senators have visited Iraq and Afghanistan at many differnt times and it is funded by your tax dollars, but you do not seem offended that they didn't travel with McCain.

        • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/30/2008 8:16:33 PM

          So why didn't Obama go with them? And why didn't he hold committee meetings on Afghanistan, which all the sudden he has found to be important? In fact, why did he skip out on so many VA committee meetings if he is so serious about taking care of our vets?

          Obama is there for the show, not because he wants to know.

          • Posted By: raddave @ 07/31/2008 10:19:02 AM

            Obama has gone before with other senators, this trip along was with three other seantors. Obama is the chairmen of a sub-committee on European affairs, not on Afghanistan affairs. I do not know where you got that about Obama skipping out on so many VA committe meetings. But he was there enough to qustion the practices of Walter Reed Hospital and to help bring the problems there to light.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 07/30/2008 4:41:43 PM

    When Obama saying this,I Know what he's refering on,the future the Gas Price shall be increase tremendously up in few years time to US 12 per gallon.He's well advance to know that the fossil Oil from Planet Earth can only produce is depleting.

    Experts have already estimated the total reserves of the world oil can only produced 800 billions of barrels left with us, world consumption: 76 millions per day, it looks like planet Earth has oil for about 10,000 days left for us or Its about 27 years from now.

    Obama is VERY right to Prepare Americans of the REALITY before it's too late.He has the Vision of the Future for America,unfortunately many Americans still dont realise

    John McCain is the either the Biggest Liar or just Plain Idiot

    • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/30/2008 6:38:18 PM

      Here's the deal:

      1. Ethanol is not economically viable - just look at how ethanol companies are doing and you will see this, not to mention the way that using food crops to make gas hikes the price of food.

      2. Solar is not economically viable yet - pv cells are too expensive to pay for themselves in energy cost savings even at today's high prices. This will change, but is not expected to come online for another decade. AND it won't be available everywhere because the sun doesn't shine enough everywhere.

      3. Wind is another possiblity, but it will take decades to build enough wind farms to make a dent in our energy needs, and again, it won't be available everywhere because the wind doesn't blow hard enough everywhere. If you don't believe me, check out the studies Florida has forced the power companies there to do.

      4. Cellulosic ethanol is perhaps the alternative with the most potential, but scientists have not yet figured out how to harvest and break down the complex carbohydrates that make up cellulose in an energy efficient and economical manner. It may take another twenty years to get this up and running.

      So what are we supposed to do until then? Nothing? Why not insist that the oil companies develop the resources we have right here in our own country, especially since we are subsidizing their research and development costs?

      The key phrase in the McCain ad is that there is no end in sight. That is true. in the meantime, there ARE things we can do that we are not doing.

      • Posted By: raddave @ 07/31/2008 10:08:55 AM

        I would have to disagree with you on the economic viability of ethanol. Brazi, the 5th most populated country in the world fuels 90% of its vehicles with ethanol.

        2. Research in Germany shows that solar water heaters will pay for themselves in 3 years. While not producing electricity, it cuts the use of fossil fuels for heating homes and hot water.

        I do agree we need to force, not insist the oil companies to develop the resources we do have, 86% of the public lands that they hold leases on has not even been explored.

  • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/30/2008 5:47:19 PM

    Note how this article carefully says "press" and not campaign staff. That was who Obama wanted taking pictures. He knew the press would not be allowed, but hoped he could bend the rules to get the photo ops he wanted. Had to settle for some hoops video instead.

    Poor Obama

    • Posted By: raddave @ 07/31/2008 9:58:01 AM

      Again, Obama did not want to bring the press along. He wanted to bring a retired Lt. General with him, who is a member of Obama's foreign affairs staff.

  • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/30/2008 6:43:38 PM

    McCain's facts are literally true

    • Posted By: raddave @ 07/31/2008 9:56:33 AM

      you cherry picked that, this is what the whole thing said. "McCain's facts are literally true, but his insinuation???that the visit was canceled because of the press ban or the desire for gym time???is false. In fact, Obama visited wounded troops earlier???without cameras or press???both in the U.S. and Iraq. And his gym workouts are a daily routine."

      Typical right wing strategy.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 07/30/2008 6:57:28 PM

      Not according to fact check and eye-witnesses. Do you guys ever read the whole article or just cry and type?

      • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 07/30/2008 7:50:51 PM

        AskPlus, that was a quote directly from the article. Why don't you read the article before posting the DNC talking points?

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 07/30/2008 11:57:45 PM

    The War sure as hell took a Long TIME to WIN and those WORDS are HOLLOW anyway, because it waas the Anbar Awakening that made PRESUMED VICTORY a Reality.

    Whoever you are, Stop Believing Yourself and look to the facts, Mccain had nothing to do with Winning Wars, via his own Military Strategies, It was just 20,000 Additional Troops and the Military Strategy was MCFARLAND'S MILITARY STRATEGY ...........

    NOT MCCAIN'S..

    Got it...Great !!

    John McCain Made Nothng but a Series of Desperate Political , Busch League Blunders During Obama's Tour and Fate gave McCain, what he Deserved...

    The Ole Rock Concert Rhetoric...AGAIN

    Obama is "The Rock Concert"....

    Name the Headlining Artist that Attracted Over 200,000 People, Must've been a BIG NAME to Attaract Over 200,000 People ?

    You can't !!

    John McCain could'nt Attract a Crowd at a Ohio German Weiner Haus and You think the Germans, French Or Britains would come out to See him, as they did Obama....Please

    McCain tried it in April and later in Canada, Columbia and Mexico and he ...FAILED !!!

    Everybody in those Countries were saying, Who is this Old A!! Guy and why is he... HERE !!!

    John McCain an his Planned Big Oil Rig Showcase, to Upstage Obama, instead McCain got a Category 2 Hurricane and Oil SPILL and thats just Fate having it's Way.

    Sarkozy Gave McCain 45 Minutes and he's a Conservative and Embraced Obama and called him a "Friend" also Sarkozy said he knew Obama.

    Big Note: McCain Did take his Entourage and MEDIA with him on his Fact Finding Mission and they Covered his MisSteps, Misques and Forgetful Moments, all Caught on Film, You Tube...IDIOT !!

    Face Facts...While Obama and Clinton were campaigning against one another....

    It was John McCain that went to Iraq and all the other Countries that Obama Toured last week...

    It was John McCain that Challenged Obama to Tour Iraq and Afghanistan, during or nearing the END of his Long Battle with Hillary Clinton.

    It was Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh Screaming Obama was Afraid to go to Iraq & Afghanistan.

    Karl "The Big Cranium" Rove, said that Obama's Tour was in fact ..SUCCESSFUL and he's trying to HELP John "Semi-Senile" McCain's Campaign !!

    It was also John McCain Begging to Tag Alongside Obama, when he said he had planned all along to go to the MiddleEast and see how the land lays.

    Note: When Obama was en route to the Middle East Region, it was john McCain, Dastardly and Bastardly, Giving the Dates of Obama's Arrival to the Region, when in fact, that was a Security Risk !!!

    Did You See Obama Stoop to such a Low, as to Broadcast McCain and that Troll of a Man, Joe Lieberman's Tour Dates...Of Course not, Just Think, an Over Zealous Nut in Afghanistan Or Iraq, could've Done the Un-Thinkable to Obama and his Comapany !!

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 07/30/2008 11:54:55 PM

    The McCain camp has nonetheless been using Obama's canceled trip to insinuate that he's anti-troops. "Barack Obama is wrong," McCain spokesperson Brian Rogers said in a statement yesterday. "It is never 'inappropriate' to visit our men and women in the military."
    It turns out the same thing happened to John McCain himself back in April of this year.

    Note: But of course when it happens to him, he brags that it "was a good thing" that HE didn't visit the troops, "because he always follows the rules."

    The problem here is that the McCain campaign was denied a visit to a military base under the same policy back in April. Of course, there was no outcry or false outrage from Brian Rogers at that time.

    From CNN:

    With Department of Defense rules prohibiting political campaigning on military bases, it was determined that in some cases McCain could visit the installations as a senator but could not engage in any political activity or have news media present.
    McCain campaign officials said Thursday they intentionally did not campaign on military property.

    "We follow the rules," said senior McCain adviser Steve Schmidt.
    I have to ask, just how much lies, hypocrisy, and double-talk is this man willing to resort to in his quest for the presidency?

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 07/30/2008 11:52:39 PM

    McCain's Campaign Mgr. challeged Obama to Tour Canada, Columbia & Mexico, as he did weeks ago...

    Does'nt McCain know that Obama is also Highly Respected in those Countries as well...

    Hey "Semi-Senile" John McCain: Learn to Google....Please

    It was also John McCain Begging to Tag alongside Obama, when he said he had planned all along to go to the MiddleEast and see how the land lays.

    Note: When Obama was en route to the Middle East Region, it was john McCain, Dastardly and Bastardly Giving the Dates of Obama's Arrival to the Region, when in fact, that was a Security Risk !!!

    Did You See Obama Stoop as Low, as to Broadcast McCain and that Troll of a Man, Joe Lieberman's Tour Dates...Of Course not, Just Think, an Over Zealous Nut in Afghanistan Or Iraq, could've Done the Un-Thinkable to Obama and his Company !!

    Obama Marched Onward into the Most dangerous Areas...Afghanistan and Later Toured Iraq, in spite of .........McCain's Low Life Move Of literally Breaking Rules of Security Conduct and Courtesy.

    Obama would Never do that...Never.


    Obama also showed Class and Dignity, by Not Rubbing it in to McCain, when he could've...

    He could've Met the Masses that Waited for him in France and Great Britain, but he maintained a more Subtle and Professional Manner, Opposed to going to the Eiffel Tower and Wimbley Stadium...Then McCain and his Staff would've had a Cardiac Arrest.

    Obama has Class and Dignity and that is a Presidential Quality, to Look Above and Over Petty, Triteful and Busch League Politicians like John "Semi-Senile" McCain

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