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The Saudi's need our military know how to survive more than they need the British. Also we need to mount a"Manhattan Project for Alternitive Energy" and free our need for the Saudi's or any other country and the will turn the political tables and make us strong angain!

Yes the Saudi's could try this, but they need our military know how to maintain their own survival. This is just another reason for us to mount a "Manhattan Project on Energy" to free ourselves of any need for the Saudi's or any other nation and turn the political tables on them.

So in the name of fighting terrorism - Blair himself fell for extortion or mini-terrorism. Shame on him and those who hail him as a leader. A leader is person who stands up in the face of adversity for and by truth as his/her ally. Seems to me Blair is a sheep in a wolf's skin. It just goes to show how Britain has always - historically - stooped to low standards to get their work done. Right from the initial days of colonizations and setting up feuds between the colonies rulers - till date when they shuddered to this Prince. Talk about Liberty and Justice under Her Majesty. Shame on the empire. The SUN is surely setting in all respects on the empire.

So in the name of fighting terrorism - Blair himself fell for extortion or mini-terrorism. Shame on him and those who hail him as a leader. A leader is person who stands up in the face of adversity for and by truth as his/her ally. Seems to me Blair is a sheep in a wolf's skin. It just goes to show how Britain has always - historically - stooped to low standards to get their work done. Right from the initial days of colonizations and setting up feuds between the colonies rulers - till date when they shuddered to this Prince. Talk about Liberty and Justice under Her Majesty. Shame on the empire. The SUN is surely setting in all respects on the empire.

The Saudi's are the worst one's in the Middle East....I.e. 9/11. Yet they claim to be our greatest Arab ally while our government (and the British) continue to pander to their threats and complaints. Call their bluff! Without US/UK support the House of Saud would fall to the "wahhabis"!.

Who will protect the Saudi's from being bit by the dogs they feed if not the U.K. and U.S.A. I'd have called
Bandar on it and see if he wanted the firewall that protects the House of Saud from jihadist groups they
fund.

Whatever happened to "give me liberty or give me death" Arabs mention terrorism and we shudder. We need to grow some cojones and stand up to Saudi Arabia. For all of their tough rhetoric Bush and Blair are simpering whimps when it comes to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia the breeding ground for the 9/11 terrorists.

With friends like this we don't need enemies.

The Saudi government could not be more corrupt if it tried to. Israel is no longer the main reason why Arabs are weak especially following its defeat in the Lebanese July war on the hands of HezbAllah. Just as bad is Saudi Arabia ill-willingness to care about what happens in the rest of the Arabic-speaking world, unless it's suiting to the promotion and advocacy of its Wahabi so-called faith. And Bandar, well we know that his criminal involvment goes back as further as Sep.11 if not even earlier than that. The Saudi government continues to show itself for what it really is, made up of radical fundamentalists who continue to promote a backward ideology while at the same time gambling, whoring and corrupting their oil revenues for evil purposes. Shame they live in the Holiest Islamic city!

If it is to their advantage both the Britain and the US will do anything even to discard whatever good principle.

US & UK are still considered military might. Plus, when on earth your Mi5 and Mi6 will be put to good use. Having all these military power, you can???t play a martyr. Accept it. You love corruption, you spread corruption. You give asylum and residence permit to people who are wanted in the world, just in the hopes that someday you might have some strings to pull against some government. You support dictators in Africa to keep the African wealth in your control. And if some one comes up and drives you out, you then use your forces to oust him. The B&B team (blair & bush) have killed tens of thousands in Iraq & Afghanistan. Lot more than 3,500people killed in WTC. So those 19 were smaller terrorist than the B&B. Do the math!

Don???t play martyr. Don???t blame anyone. Your people choose scumbags like B&B to spread violence and hatred on this earth. So not just those politician but a vast majority is on board! I wonder why price Bandar just took 17million. He should have charged in billions!

Is this the first time Britons sold arms to Saudis? If not, then it means, BAE or Whitehall was bribing Saudis to get the contracts since late 80s or even before, who knows. So what's the big deal? Yes, it could be that now there are more Ethically right people in UK who object to such things. But i wonder why do they accept anyone's threat? Why did Blair had to accept any threats from Saudis? UK & US are still

You sleep with dogs you get fleas. Ever wonder why the USA did not follow the money trail for the short selling of stock that happen prior to 9-11. If I remember it all pointed to Saudi traiders knowing that something was going to happen. And they make millions on this knowledge. IMO Bush was told to shut up and go away by the Saudi's.

How bad can it get. The UK caved in to a THREAT by the Saudi to cut off cooperation on counterterrorism operations'. How sickly addicted to oil we are, UK & USA that we placate the REAL terrorist nation just to keep from loosing their oil. At least that is the way it appears Blair is playing this. I also appears this needs to by investigated deeper to see if Blair may have profited from this.
As to w, most all of us have seen the solidarity of w and the prince/king by the pictures of them holding hands, the show of friendship in Saudi. And w's off shore accounts must indeed be massive.

"Terrorism is being used to blackmail the West. You watch, it is only a matter of time before they do this in the U.S."

My guess is they've been blackmailing the U.S. for quite some time. After all, the house of Saud and the Bushes have been buddies for a long time. And as far as the Saudi's getting a foreign government to disregard their own justice system, why gee, George Bush has disregarded our justice system for almost 8 years - he should have no trouble allowing the Saudi's to help.

I am not saying it is right by any means, but this kind of thing is just a way of life in Saudi Arabia when it comes to government contracts. I worked there for three months on a contract with the civil air ministry, and was informed that virtually every contract that is made with foreign firms has some kind of kick-back for the person writing the contract. In most cases though it is the Saudi intermediating company that actually provides the kickback (the Suadi governent is actually normally not allowed to buy anything directly from a foreign business, so a Saudi business acts as an intermediary). One time a friend who worked there said he was reviewing a bill from one of these companies and found a $70,000 "transportation fee." When he asked about what this was for, someone pointed to a new Jag sitting outside. The justification that folks there use is that the land and its oil (bascially the only sourse of income for the country) belongs to be people of Saudi Arabia, so they are just taking there piece of it. So in a nutshell, I am not sure how BAE got directly involved in this, but it is really just the way business gets done

I am not saying it is right by any means, but this kind of thing is just a way of life in Saudi Arabia when it comes to government contracts. I worked there for three months on a contract with the civil air ministry, and was informed that virtually every contract that is made with foreign firms has some kind of kick-back for the person writing the contract. In most cases though it is the Saudi intermediating company that actually provides the kickback (the Suadi governent is actually normally not allowed to buy anything directly from a foreign business, so a Saudi business acts as an intermediary). One time a friend who worked there said he was reviewing a bill from one of these companies and found a $70,000 "transportation fee." When he asked about what this was for, someone pointed to a new Jag sitting outside. The justification that folks there use is that the land and its oil (bascially the only sourse of income for the country) belongs to be people of Saudi Arabia, so they are just taking there piece of it. So in a nutshell, I am not sure how BAE got directly involved in this, but it is really just the way business gets done over there; therefore, it made quite a bit of sense for Prime Minister Blair to do exactly what he did.