Talking the Talk

Lets put this to rest.

Genesis 9:16: "And god blessed noah and his sons, and said to them...Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth.." and once again at the end of the passage "be fruitful and multiply, bring forth abundantly on the earth and multiply in it"

It says NOTHING about..."You must be 18 years of age, have had primary education, be in love with your spouse, get married in my church with lots of people around, your parents must bless the wedding, THEN you can have kids" hahaha No such luck John, Gods word right there!

In the same token JOHN: Lev:19.5 -- Basically says if you eat a meal in Gods honor (say xmas dinner) then you have to eat it in its entirety within two days, on the third day you're an abomination if you eat it and the food needs to be burned. This would truly suck if I were a literalist and excepted the bible as the written world because I love leftovers thoroughly.

falcon3: What's wrong with being a single mother? I agree it's not the most ideal situation, but you say it like these people are without morals or a personal constitution. I assure you that people who are single parents aren't dumb or less than moral people just because they have children and don't have a spouse around.

Last JOhn: Since I enjoy debating with you. Where in the bible does it talk specifically about sex? Does it talk about oral sex? Anal sex? Are these things taboo? Is only missionary position worthy of god? You folks may laugh but I'm asking a serious question here. How many times are married couples allowed to have sex every week John? Since you claim the bible is such great learning material, does it talk about a womans cycle, and the reasoning behind it? Does it talk about men and prostate cancer; because according to most physicians these days, you need to masturbate at LEAST once a month to use it, thus reducing chances of prostate cancer.

John if you need help with these things....I'm a JHU grad I can help you understand sir.

How about this...sex should wait until you're married.
It's a smart idea, and it's God's law...how cool is that? :D

I agree with these tips 100%, I am a 17 year old male, and I am a father of a 3 month old baby boy. While I am going to be just starting my Senior year in High School in September, I now wish, that I would have thought twice about having sex with my girlfriend. My girlfriend and I are now engaged, and we are also parents of a 3 month old baby boy. I have had to work 6 days a week at a full time job with a construction company all summer long, just to make enough money to afford all of my expenses on the baby's needs. My parents and her parents have been helpful by helping us with doctor bills, and other things, but its still a hard time. Every day I wake up at my house, and I go to work, of which my father owns the company that I work for, but I think about how I call my father "Dad", and he is also the my sons Grandfather, and I am only 17 years old. One piece of advice that I can give all other teens, both guys and girls is, if you are going to have sex, use protection, and don't ever think that you are ready for giving birth to baby, because I know from experience, having a baby at 17 years old, makes your life very difficult, because I have had a son for 3 months, and yet to have any medical insurance for him yet. My father does own the construction company, so I have medical insurance for myself, but he is working with the insurance company to give my son medical insurance. My fiance has medical thru her parents, but does not work, she stays with my son Andrew, everyday while I work, and then I get to see him when I come home from work and on my day off on Sunday. So again, to all you teens out there, who are thinking about sex, think again, girls, think, "do I really want to give birth at my age? can I afford a baby?" Think about that, and then decide if you are ready or not. I know if I do decide to have another baby with my girlfriend, it won't be until me and her are both 22 or 23 years old. Parents, my advice to you is to check your child's rooms at night, because the way I got my girlfriend pregnant, was her parents weren't home that night, they were on vacation, and I snuck out of my house and drove to her house at about 1:00am, and then made sure I was back in my bedroom by 4:00am before my parents were awake yet.

Teaching your children to use condoms and other forms of birth control ISN'T teaching them that anyone anywhere should have sex any time they want to. Teaching about birth control is a response to today's society, where kids experiment and have sex younger and younger. By teaching kids how to protect themselves, combined with the maturity and emotional readiness a person should possess before having sexsex,

It's wrong according to who John? You?

Ah, gods word, such a broad word it is too. Gee wiz John, I'm still flipping through the bible looking for something on global warming and addictions to oil and the internal combustion engine.

John, you really need to read the old testament my friend, a very vengeful god is portrayed, then he's all puppy dogs and icecream in the new testement.

BTW what denotes two people as being married? Because as previously stated I didn't read anything in the bible that talked about ceremonies for wedlock.. "So and so took so and so as a wife" etc., the meaning behind this is they had sex and concieved, not that they stood at an alter and a priest blessed their union. The christian faith hadn't been clearly established yet, and if it was god that looked down and with burning bush and booming voice said "I hereby acknowledge your union" then no one on this planet would be married right now because I haven't seen anything in the recently wed column of the newspaper stating that god blessed a union of someone.

So many people are responding soo negatively to this subject. I myself first had sex when i was fifteen years old with a guy who I sincerly loved. When you think of someone the age of fifteen having sex you most likely cringe.. We had been dating for a year and 4 months and now he is 18 and I am 17 and we both are still very much in love. Love is not limited to age which I think many people don't understand, don't want to accept, or even try to forget. My mother and father never came out and had a direct sex talk with me but always told me that when I was ready, to come to them and they would "prepare" me the best they could. I spoke to my mother, she cryed and denied me birthcontrol.. I was devistated... I then went to my sister who provided for me.. I knew that I wasn't going to perform the act unless I was protected (double protected) I believe that I was ready and don't regret my decision... I do believe the more parent need to support and talk with their children about sex, it's a very important subject for us and the worst thing a parent coud do is completely avoid the subject..

My Mom talked to me about sex at the age of 10 and told me dirty jokes growing up, and I waited til I turned 22. And it was with someone I had known for years.

Also I read about about a girl who said she was not taught anything about it and used to think her menstruel cycles were god's punishment for having bad thoughts so she would hide it from anyone. Then at the age of 19 she was homeless with a baby in her arms. Another example is a girl who's parents lied and pretty much made her feel worthless and told all her throughout her young life that she would be okay as long as she had a man to take care of her. Then at 16 she had a miscarriage with a 26 year old who was engaged to somebody else.

So I agree with this post. My brother wants to remain abstenent and he's 15 and we are very open about this subject.

The unfortunate part about the bible is that it was written in a day and age where the world was completely different, societal woe's were completely different and the ideology of people's were less than educated. Every other text known to man, that's in some way related to forging a future for ourselves is updated regularly to include items that we previously thought were right or wrong and now we've found out otherwise. The bible hasn't been updated in thousands of years, oh sure king james version etc., yet here's the real irony, it wasn't written by god, it was physicially written and interpreted by man....therefore inherently flawed from the start. Too bad the bible doesn't elaborate on melting our polar ice caps and depleting our ozone layer, and being good little monkies that drive electric cars. If you wanna talk about natural sin, that's the biggest of them all. We're basically killing ourselves and doing it with a smile on our faces...

So if you wanna be a good little religious robot, please do something worth while, use your computer for helping other instead of spreading religious doctrine. join http://folding.stanford.edu/ put your processor to use and help Stanfords med team fold, and possible cure some diseases.

John 3:16: Great John you've figured it out for us...kids shouldn't have sex until they're married. So lets be like certain faiths (ahem mormons) and have KIDS getting married as soon as they're out of highschool so they can rush into sex and the glorification of marrage, only to, realize it's not all its cracked up to be, and it's a lot of work and comprimize, then be completely unsatisfied and mal-adjusted parents and raise bitter little children. Typcial baby'makers great, just what the world needs!

look at these statistics:
not much of a big difference bettwen whites and blacks, huh?
White, not Hispanic: 394,024
Black, not Hispanic 409,982

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