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  • Posted By: AshleyKidd @ 08/10/2008 12:36:00 AM

    it's funny how touchy the subject sex is to mothers in the US. how contraversial it is.

    wow.

    Religious folks, watch this guy...
    he makes a good point:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

    • Posted By: thedcf @ 08/10/2008 12:43:04 AM

      lol i remember that. great stand up moment.... Funny how he puts religion in perspective

      • Posted By: AshleyKidd @ 08/10/2008 12:49:37 AM

        sadly he died.

        he makes great points.

  • Posted By: SinNM @ 08/10/2008 12:38:55 AM

    Again, one more little rant. I see so very much on here about "God's laws" and how we should live. What are these laws? Are you Amish, Orthodox Jew, Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, or what?

    If I guess correctly I'll bet over 90% will say "Christian", and yet that means follower of Christ and Christ didn't write a whole bunch of laws on sex. In fact, he didn't write anything. men wrote those stories decades after his death. The earliest being I believe Mark, which was still over 80 years after the Crucifixion.

    So, we must be following the "old testament" law's huh? Or at least those you've picked and chosen for your specific needs, cause you don't actually leave the house and live apart from your husband or kick your daughter out when one of you is menstruating right? That would be silly. Oh, and of course you probably eat pork. Hmmm, might even have sex with your husband during your menstrual cycle. Oh dear, that's a big no no.

    PLEASE! ALL ANIMALS ON THIS PLANET REPRODUCE IN SOME WAY! Most by having sex. Humans have sex. We are mammals. Why is it such a HUGE DEAL to simply teach your child from early on that there is nothing dirty or nasty about sex or the human body. Why not simply teach them that masturbation is a totally natural and pleasurable past time and can even help them out until they are mature enough to understand and handle sexual contact with another person.

    But no, most Christians preach against the vile evils of masturbation, the evils of lust, the evils of the naked human body, and so on and so forth. Making everything natural, unnatural, just so they can feel pious and superior. Then little "Johnny" goes and get's his classmate preggers and picks up an std in the process! KUDOS Brother and Sister Christian! Your youngster is a parent at 14! Yay you! Your methods work!

    • Posted By: AshleyKidd @ 08/10/2008 12:43:47 AM

      that is sooo true. masturbation is the purest safest form of sex.

      I've never heard of getting yourself pregnant or giving yourself an STD.

      masturbation actually has been proven medically, that it's healthy for people to masturbate, even when in a sexual relationship with someone else.

      what's bad about knowing what makes you feel good?

      it's a stress reliever, and not wrong at all.

  • Posted By: cneuhauser @ 08/09/2008 11:58:34 PM

    Falcon3: Wow you're a jaded youngster, so now you've learned to hate sex, that it's not enjoyable and that it's the bane of your existance. I feel sorry for anyone who ever tries to marry you...that's going to be a completely unfulfilling relationship, spent in seperate beds, probably in seperate rooms etc. How horrible, not wanting to have sex with someone you love....that's not love.

    • Posted By: falcon3 @ 08/10/2008 12:41:55 AM

      Who said i hate sex? how can u hate something u never did. i never had sex b/c i never had the oppertunity b/c of my parents. now i'm at a point where i have no experience which makes me really inseure around guys. I know most guys don't want or expect to have an inexperienced girl at this age. Maybe my parents ways weren't great but i'm not a single mother like many other girls i know.

    • Posted By: thedcf @ 08/10/2008 12:02:06 AM

      As the wise man once said, Love is nature's way of tricking you into reproducing. All jokes aside I agree with you.

  • Posted By: Lola P @ 08/10/2008 12:13:11 AM

    Personally, I think the biggest reason teens begin to have sex too early and without any type of protection is because their parents are not involved and the kids have no activities that interest them. Being involved in extracurricular activities raises teens self-worth and self-esteem which then leads to them not needing to resort to sexual activities to feel good about themselves. I played two sports in high school as well as being involved with two other non-sports activities at school. I never really had the sex talk with my parents but I also knew I didn't need to have sex to feel good about myself. Its all in how children are raised.

    • Posted By: falcon3 @ 08/10/2008 12:33:13 AM

      You are totaly right. I played 2 sports in high school & college. I got alot of recognition & attention from guys for it that was not sexual. i remained a virgin & i still am. Like i said in another post, most of the other girls seemd desperate for attention form guys & would do anything to get it. My parents never talked to me about sex ever. But i learned what i needed to know at school. I never even thought about sex much in high school or college. I was too busy with sports & classes. I think i know about sex that many of my former classmates b/c many of them have had kids in high school or after graduation but none of them are married.

  • Posted By: thedcf @ 08/10/2008 12:29:44 AM

    reminds me how fewer people (proportionally) smoke weed in Denmark? than the US and its legal there. No thrill no big deal. It is just nudity. It really isnt that big of a deal. (sorry for the double post i replied to the wrong post)

  • Posted By: AshleyKidd @ 08/09/2008 11:54:58 PM

    falcon...did your parents put bars on your windows and have cameras surrounding every inch of the house?...did they never allow you to go to a party?....did they never allow you to go to school?

    because the parents [excluding your case] rarely have control over doing that kind of thing...

    [cause ive knwon many people [not myself, because its just plain gross] who've had some sort of sexual experience AT SCHOOL.

    [i could list...but i think you'd rather not hear]

    • Posted By: falcon3 @ 08/10/2008 12:20:30 AM

      No , i wasn't allowed to go to parties. when i asked my parents if i could go to so & so's house they said absolutley not b/c they knew there would be no supervision. my parents aren't stupid & they knew what went on at parties. Even if i lied & told them adults would be there they still said no b/c they didn't know the parents. I went to school but i would never imagine doing anything like that sexual hat at school. my school had cops & security so it wasn't easy to hide to that kind of stuff. I was never home alone much ever. My parents worked seprate shifts & my grandmother lived with us. so sneaking a guy in to my house would have been impossible.

      • Posted By: AshleyKidd @ 08/10/2008 12:29:20 AM

        i have school cops/security too... one of the top schools in california actually. security system is great,...and there were cameras.

        but kids are great at sneaking around.

        [you just had morals, congratulations]

        but not all kids are like how you were.

        im a virgin and 16!
        but if i WANTED to have sex.
        i could tomorrow if i wanted.

        it has nothing to do with parents...
        just the attitude towards sex as a teen

  • Posted By: Lola P @ 08/10/2008 12:16:46 AM

    P.S.- To everybody who thinks that STDs and HIV/AIDS are somehow "Black" diseases...let's all keep in mind that HIV/AIDS started in the white gay male community. But my point is that HIV/AIDS knows no race, no disease does. Any disease can strike anyone regardless whether they are orange, green or purple.

    • Posted By: thedcf @ 08/10/2008 12:27:22 AM

      reminds me how fewer people (proportionally) smoke weed in Denmark? than the US and its legal there. No thrill no big deal. It is just nudity. It really isnt that big of a deal.

    • Posted By: thedcf @ 08/10/2008 12:19:19 AM

      you forgot white..heh

  • Posted By: SinNM @ 08/10/2008 12:20:15 AM

    OH COME ON! The reason for all this isn't some lost "morality" in the USA. There has been widespread teen and even tween sex, sexual abuse, incest, std's, pregnancies, etc. since this nation began! Humans are GOING to have sex! The only difference between now and 60 years ago is that people are a lot more open, women have a LOT more power, and being the "man of the house" doesn't mean you can stick it to your daughter or son or wife whenever you want because they are just your property anymore. NOW it's more likely to be found out, talked about, hashed out, cried about in the street and on television, and a jury of your male peers aren't going to smile knowingly and let you off scott free.

    Morality my aunt fannie. The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, is a fully industrialized high tech country with a HIGHER RATE OF STD's and TEEN PREGNANCY, and ABUSE, and RAPE than most western high tech countries. The big difference between those other western democracies and US? THEY ARE OPEN ABOUT SEX! And I mean they don't make the human body taboo, they don't try to regulate sex through "the power of God", they don't push abstinence only faith based sex ed (which has FAILED MISERABLY), and they don't think there is anything wrong with a kid seeing a woman's breasts at the beach. Here, we have skimpy clothing that is a lot more provacative than anything topless or fully nude over there in Europe. We censor movies and slap them with a NC-17 if they show a penis, but they can show a man decapating a woman or slowly cutting off someone's fingers with a chainsaw and that's cool! That's only pg-13 or R. After all, mindless senseless violence is ok as long as no penis or vagina gets shown! Those are naughty bits! Nasty nasty, sinful sinful!

    Wow, no wonder Americans are so very screwed up in the head. IT"S JUST SEX! IT"S JUST NUDITY! QUIT MAKING SUCH A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT! Let it be seen, let the human body be understood, remove the mystery and you remove the thrill and taboo. GET OVER YOUR CHURCH LADY HYPOCRITICAL SELVES!

    • Posted By: cneuhauser @ 08/10/2008 12:25:33 AM

      WOW...finally someone that's intelligent....praise the lord, I've got faith again.

  • Posted By: AshleyKidd @ 08/10/2008 12:24:13 AM

    agreeing with SinNM....you make a good point.

  • Posted By: bdmom @ 08/10/2008 12:20:55 AM

    Yes, we all know kids can sneak sex when they're determined. The key is to have a great relationship between kids and parents. If kids think their parents are just out to rule over and control them, they will rebel, of course. They may anyway, just because of personality, circumstance, human nature, etc. All I can do is tell them why the boundaries exist, and that our rules are designed to make their lives better and more fulfilling (just as God's laws are not designed to restrict, but to ensure a good quality life). They know they are precious and wonderful, and that their lives will be better if they put sex in its proper place in life.

  • Posted By: cneuhauser @ 08/10/2008 12:20:39 AM

    Most of you zealots are still practicing religious ceremonial rituals that were created by men who thought the world was flat, and the earth was the center of the universe....doesn't that strike you as odd? Don't you question your religious doctrine, or are you devoid of all free-will?

  • Posted By: thedcf @ 08/09/2008 11:59:16 PM

    I know what your saying Ashley... Happens in the stalls from time to time. Its impossible for parents to be there all the time.

    • Posted By: AshleyKidd @ 08/10/2008 12:06:25 AM

      exactly. not just stalls. but i've known people to do stuff under the bleachers, behind the curtains in the gym, on the STAGE in the performing arts room, in classroom, on the stairs, behind things, on the football field.

      sex is EVERYWHERE, believe me, i have a lot of teenage friends who go to school.

      and im one myself. who of course doesnt engage in those gross sexual PDA moments.

      • Posted By: thedcf @ 08/10/2008 12:09:53 AM

        on a halfpipe...in a dugout....Yeah that was kind of awkward. I'm not taking shortcuts through the baseball field ever again.

        • Posted By: AshleyKidd @ 08/10/2008 12:15:38 AM

          ahaha, that reminds me of the sex corner. There was a couple basically getting it on in this corner between stores. and me and my friend hund out in a different corner, but decdied to name ours the sex corner... [even though none of us ever did anything in that corner except eat chocolate with bread and stupid sean breaking a glass bottle then we couldnt sit there for like 4 months...yeahhh]

  • Posted By: cneuhauser @ 08/10/2008 12:10:22 AM

    For all of you Zealots....there's a good movie to watch called ALTERED STATES. It's about the scientific research done back in the 60's and 70's regarding deprevation chambers. Basically you sit in a floating chamber with no light or sound, only your mind to keep you company. Basically it's like being in the womb again. Great spiritual movie where I guy reverts into an ape with pagan thoughts and ideas...shows you what self deprevation does to people...gee wiz isn't that what you're preaching, self deprevation? I also recall the catholics whipping themselves on the backs as they walked through plagued towns during the middle ages, and wearing braces with spikes on them around their legs for self mutilation in some religious zen type fashion. Hahahah...religion is funny that way, yet some of you still believe in its ancestery like it was much better "way back when".

    • Posted By: thedcf @ 08/10/2008 12:13:26 AM

      Is it sci-fi or documentary? 'cuz it sounds like its worth watching

  • Posted By: thedcf @ 08/09/2008 11:50:47 PM

    I think it would be more humiliating not being able to date in high school but that's beside the point. Jails are full already with many who really don't belong there, you really want to fill them with parents who have kids who have had sex? Would you accept masturbation as an alternative or would that be forbidden as well? And you well know that not all of your friends had kids while in high school...come on you aren't fooling anyone

    • Posted By: falcon3 @ 08/10/2008 12:12:39 AM

      Thats not what i said. Some of my friends had a kid while in high school & the others have kids since graduating. None of them are married or in a serious realtionship. i'm the only one with no kids & a virgin. They all had the sex talk & it didn't work obviously. I used to feel like a loser for being allowed to date but now i don't b/c i know 99% of high school realtionship are pointless & a waste of time. They never work out. Besides i had better things to do. All the other girls wre begging for attention form guys & would have sex with anyone that would pay attention to them. I didn't want or need that kind of attention.

  • Posted By: cneuhauser @ 08/09/2008 11:55:09 PM

    dell2460: by the way chap....be aware that it wasn't until the last 100 to 150 years that families had seperate bedrooms; middle class and working class that is. So parents would have sex in the same room as children, since there was usually only one room in the house. Families would sometimes have three generations in the same room or household....so how would you like your parents hearings you have sex. Geee wiz, I prefer the modern ages thank you very much!

  • Posted By: pretty1 @ 08/09/2008 11:55:09 PM

    The comments made by 'Computethis' are one-sided, & do not correlate accurately with scientific findings. 1 in 4 Americans has the herpes virus, a group comparable with the entire population of Canada. We do not have a racial problem, we have a morality problem. The core of the problem is sin, the solution is God.

  • Posted By: dell2460 @ 08/09/2008 11:30:19 PM

    what is the world coming to that sex isnt reserved for marriage were turning it into a cheap way to fele good thats not special etween a man or women.

    • Posted By: cneuhauser @ 08/09/2008 11:52:21 PM

      to DELL2460: What is the world coming to when people of faith believe that you can't love someone out of wedlock, and that a ceremony and religious doctrine are the only true ways of official recognizing love between two people. Another religious zealot that thinks the world is worse than it was hundreds of years ago....hahaha, you people don't read much history other than the bible do you? If you romanticize the OLD WAYS so much, I emplore you to return to the middle ages and enjoy that so called chivalry....because it's a far cry from the life you read about in your romance novels, or see in the movies. I assure you our sexual practices are FAR tamer and more civilized than those of the past, including forced sex, rape, planned marrages etc.

  • Posted By: thedcf @ 08/09/2008 11:37:10 PM

    Computethis.... seriously you don't think anyone will go to that site and go "Golly gee wizz this guy is has the right idea, I think I'll set up a no black people in the house rule for my daughter to protect her". These comments act like STDs are airborne. Hate to break it to you but last time I checked it takes two to have sex. Pretty sure their skin color doesn't make them catnip with a 100% guaranteed STD attachment to your daughters.

  • Posted By: dell2460 @ 08/09/2008 11:33:37 PM

    what is the world coming to that sex isnt reserved for marriage were turning it into a cheap way to fele good thats not special etween a man or women.

  • Posted By: computethis2 @ 08/09/2008 11:28:08 PM

    I see we have another racial and ignorant person in our midst once again. The fact that this may be true is besides the point, why is it that certain people feel that they must degrade black people or people of ethnicity at any available point under frequent circumstance. I am not black myself but the comment Computethis has posted does not pertain at all to the above article. Another thing though, chimpout.com sounds to me as if it looks like a racial website which targets black people specifically; so if you would like truely factual information, and not some KKK inspired blasphemy, then try the national health website or the WHO website.
    Now back to the main point, although children should not engage in sexual intercourse they must be aware of the social and psychological ramifications of having intercourse at an early age. While I do agree it is difficult to speak with a child, who thinks they are ready and know what intercourse entails, they are not. Having said this you must respect the prepubescent and pubescent ego and understand that the majority of their eagerness to have sex comes from hormones but also from a lack of inexperience and the natural human instinct to adapt and learn from new, undiscovered and untested experiences. With this in mind you must let your child talk as well, have them tell you what they feel and what they think they know and you will find this a much more efficient and through this you will facilitate the difficulty and burden placed on yourself.

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