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'Manny Being Manny'

I confess I have, at times, been quite amused by the former Red Sox outfielder's antics. But ultimately we are talking about a character flaw that should weigh on any assessment of Ramirez's career.

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  • Posted By: lordxixor101 @ 08/01/2008 2:14:40 PM

    my problem with this is, this man is a hall of famer, despite his flaws. Ok, he doesn't run to first. Ok, he might not care if he wins or loses. That being said, with all those doubles turned to singles, yet his stats are still scary. He might not be a gamer, but that isn't a hall requirement. Baseball's hall of fame isn't there for hustling, it's there for being great. Manny is great enough to be there. If it bothers the fans enough, don't retire his number, never mention him when he's gone, but he helped break the curse for Boston.

    Character flaws have never kept players from the Hall of Fame. Ty Cobb beat up men in wheel chairs who heckled him. Others have had their issues. Plus, for all of his hussle issues, I never saw the Red Sox suspend him during critical stretches of the season. Winning matters, and he was better than the alternatives.

    Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe hurt (al least alledgedly) the integrity of the very game being played. You know going in Manny doesn't care, that doesn't hurt the integrity.

    Put it one final way. During Greg Maddux's prime, he seemed to have a character flaw. He would cruise through the game, until his team gave up an error. Then, he'd fall apart, giving up a run or 2, before pulling it back together. This cost the Braves games, and possibly more World Series. Say we find out that he was asked to see a shrink, and he refused. Is that Greg being Greg. Do we throw him out of the hall? No, that would be stupid. Same thing here.

  • Posted By: johnny_offensive @ 07/31/2008 2:37:07 PM

    So tired of articles like this. You miss the point entirely. Manny's "character flaws" are the reason he's so good at hitting. He doesn't let anything affect him. If you want an intense player, there are literally hundreds of players that take the game seriously and can't hit because they think too much. You can have them. I'll take Manny and his flaws ANY day.

  • Posted By: sregis @ 07/31/2008 2:34:58 PM

    for red sox fans, the question now is how to fill the hole manny leaves behind.

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