Can Obama Stay Above the Fray?

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  • Posted By: gunlingbluecollarman @ 08/01/2008 11:00:40 PM

    Is Obama above the fray ? That question was answered when he accused McCain BEFORE THE FACT of planning to scare voters by asking "did I mention he's black?" If Obama can't resist running that tattered flag up the pole, he's hardly one to poo-poo old style politics.

  • Posted By: ivote2 @ 08/01/2008 10:58:29 PM

    Barack Obama is talking to his children:
    Barack: Girls, I've got good news and I've got bad news.
    Girls: What's the good news, daddy.
    Barack: When I'm President we'll have Christmas in the White House and you'll get lots of presents.
    Girls: What's the bad news. daddy.
    Barack: It looks like Christmas has been canceled again this year for the Obama family.

  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 10:28:49 PM

    Oh! Come on. . .let's be fair. If you're turning 72, how many more shots at Pres are you going to have? Of course he'll use fair means and foul. Whatever it takes. (altthough I am sincerely hoping none of that Christian stuff about the eternal hellfires of damnation apply to him. Probably not a problem, though. . .God' gotta be a Bushie/McCainie/Rovie/Chenie

  • Posted By: danram @ 08/01/2008 10:24:57 PM

    Well, well ... Whaddya know. Now Obama is in favor of offshore drilling. "Barack Obama: Whatever The Politics Demand". Now I'm waiting for his explanation where he'll infor all of us lesser mortals how he was REALLY in favor of offshore drilling all along. What a BS artist. God help us if the American public is actually stupid enough to elect him.

  • Posted By: Pete Kent @ 08/01/2008 9:48:01 PM

    Hubris and Drilling

    The article closes with a reminder of the campaign's hubris. A fatal flaw in an inexperienced candidate who is being lead by men who may have outstripped their own positive press.

    Obama has stumbled badly. That he is elegant makes no difference. When Fred Astaire tripped he looked clumsy like everyone else.

    His apparent intention to embrace drilling in the Senate is an example of how ill-advised he is.

    I think he will be savaged over it.

    As well he should be -- from the right and left.

    Will Hillary become a factor again?

    • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 10:12:06 PM

      "Obama has stumbled badly." Do you program your computer to come up with these random thoughts?

  • Posted By: factfinder0728 @ 08/01/2008 3:03:48 PM

    Washington Post: Please provide links or more info on "no evidence at all" for the accusation so we can contrast. The following quote is convincing. Please provide contrary evidence.

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_cancels_visit/2008/07/31/117945.html


    Quote:
    Today, Dr. Danny Jazarevic, who served as the Chief of Trauma, Critical Care and Vascular Surgery at Landstuhl, issued the following statement on Barack Obama's canceled visit to Ramstein and Landstuhl:
    "Last week, Senator Obama skipped a visit with wounded U.S. troops at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany because the Pentagon would not allow campaign staff or media to accompany him into the hospital. I served as director of trauma surgery at that hospital for nearly four years and saw the effect that a visit from a celebrity like Senator Obama could have on morale. During that time, I do not recall a single member of Congress canceling a visit with the troops despite being just a few hours away, but Senator Obama seems to have been more concerned with how the visit would affect him than how it would affect the soldiers recovering from wounds received in the service of their country."


    • Posted By: Shad @ 08/01/2008 10:03:28 PM

      Sun Jul 27, 1:41 AM Pacific THE JED REPORT
      Why didn't McCain want to see the troops in March?
      The curious thing about John McCain's dishonorable attack on Barack Obama is that McCain himself visited Europe in March, but didn't visit the wounded troops in Landstuhl, Germany.
      It's true that McCain's trip to Europe bypassed Germany -- he only went to London and Paris. But it turns out that London and Berlin are about the same distance from Landstuhl, and Paris is just a four hour drive away.
      So if McCain wanted to visit the troops, it would have been trivial to arrange -- no seismic event needed. But it's clear McCain didn't want to visit them, and as a result, it should be fair to ask McCain why he now feels entitled to attack Barack Obama.
      I'm not trying to say that John McCain didn't have other important things to do. For example, he hauled in much-needed cash at a campaign fundraiser hosted by a British Lord.
      But it's pretty ridiculous for McCain to be making this absurd, hypocritical attack on Barack Obama. They've both visited wounded troops in the past. And as commanders-in-chief, they would both work for the best interests of the nation, even if they would take it in different directions.
      McCain is desperate now, in full-fledged panic mode. If this is how he'd handle a crisis as president, it's all the more important that Barack Obama win this election.
      Update: There is an important difference between McCain's Europe trip and Barack Obama's -- McCain's was official business, and therefore taxpayer-funded. Obama's was political, and therefore campaign-funded. During the portion of Obama's trip that was official -- the portion in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kuwait -- Barack Obama did visit wounded troops, and he did so with no fanfare.

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/01/2008 3:12:14 PM

      This isn't really convincing of anything--it's just one doctor's opinion. We all know Obama cancelled the visit, but the only people who know WHY are Obama and his staff. Obama has had many documented visits with wounded troops before without cameras. In fact, every candidate knows that the Pentagon will not allow media. This is a given and they know BEFORE they schedule visits. Why would he know this, yet somehow be accused of wanting publicity even knowing he can't have cameras and media? They are allowed, however, a small group of reporters and staff to accompany them. Obama would not allow this group to visit the troops with him the other times he visited--which to me says that he really doesn't give a damn about publicity.

  • Posted By: ivote2 @ 08/01/2008 9:53:43 PM

    Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are talking.
    Bill: Well, Barack, whatever happens, I'll still go down in history as the first black President of the United States.
    Barack: But, Bill, you know that you're not black, don't you.?
    Bill: Yeah, but, do you know that you're not the President?

  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 9:48:12 PM

    "You know where this is going" I myself am way more curious as to where it might have come from. . .

  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 9:41:00 PM

    HoliBoller, I sure could use some of that stuff you're smoking. . .do you use a hookah?

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/01/2008 9:34:55 PM

    Many of you remember this....I discussed Hussein's Christian massacring cousin, in Kenya FOR WEEKS...All the obamamohammeds, tried to downplay it, ridicule facts, and discredit it. WELL, WELLl, WELL ...seems a NEW#1 BESTSELLER is on the stands. Obama Nation...by..Dr. Jerome Corsi Ph.D(remember the swiftboats???... Here is what Dr. Corsi says............................

    Dr. Jerome Corsi told Sean Hannity yesterday that he has tapes of Barack Obama campaigning for his COUSIN, Raila Odinga, in Kenya back in 2006.

    Odinga's trying to overthrow the US-backed government of democratically-elected President Mwai Kibaki, so he can institute sharia law (fundamentalist merging of religion and state) in Kenya.

    Obama campaigned for Odinga as a sitting United States Senator, where he spoke in front of crowds with his cousin Odinga:

    There's a natural train of logic here that could be very damaging for Obama in the general election if Corsi actually does possess footage of Obama's Kenyan campaign tour:

    (1) Odinga's supporters are determined to overthrow the Kenyan government, so his campaign appearances would address that as his chief goal.

    (2) By nature of wanting to overthrow the Kenyan government, Odinga's supporters are anti-American, since the Kenyan government is US-backed (and at least partially reliant on the US for stability).

    (3) A successful campaign by Odinga would mean making anti-American statements, coupled with anti-Kenyan government statements, at campaign stops to rev up his followers.

    (4) Obama appeared at campaign rallies with Odinga in Kenya, for Odinga's followers.

    (5) Obama has a proven track record of telling people exactly what they want to hear (see: San Francisco liberals re: bitter, gun-clinging Midwesterners; Ohio voters re: NAFTA; the Canadian government re: NAFTA; the liberal netroots re: FISA, campaign finance reform, you name it).

    You know where this is going.

    If Obama's audience wanted to hear anti-American remarks, and Odinga always obliged these people, then Obama, with Odinga, at a campaign rally like this, as a sitting US Senator, well, fill in the blank. Or, go read Corsi's book. Or, just wait for the tapes.

    Should be interesting. BUT WHAT THE HECK....They were only Christians...RIGHT???

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 9:37:41 PM

      Well they do say there's one born every moment, which makes you the poster-child of the here-and-now

  • Posted By: ozarkman @ 08/01/2008 9:34:54 PM

    Zen Like? Wow, can you say IN THE TANK

  • Posted By: ozarkman @ 08/01/2008 9:33:36 PM

    Zen-Like? Wow can you say IN THE TANK?

  • Posted By: black saint @ 08/01/2008 9:33:35 PM

    Blacks are the ones that refuse to take responsibility for high rate of high school drop out, sexual promiscuity, children born out of wedlock, , absence of male parenting/role models, drugs, crime, incarceration, AIDS.. They prefer to play the victim hood game and blaming everyone else for their plight! Until that time there will always be hate mongers & race baiter,s to use them and profit from their plight like the Rev. Wright, Rev. Jessie Jackson, Rev. Al Sharpton, as well as 10,s of thousands of White and Black Politicians. In fact the whole Democrat party! Hand outs, instead of a hand up, is the means of keeping Blacks down and economic Slaves! Keeping Blacks as an race of victims and believing all of the above is Whitey fault is designed to keep them from progressing. It is in the best interest of Black preachers and Democrat politicians! Blacks will never be lead to the promise land by hate mongering Preachers like Rev. Wright or by bottom feeding Politicians that wants and works to keep Blacks in the Ghetto, on Welfare, and voting Democrat!

  • Posted By: black saint @ 08/01/2008 9:28:13 PM

    As a life long Democrat and liberal I have never been more excited or proud of my party and the outstanding choices we ofter for the world,s future! I believe Hillary is the past and Obama Hussein is the future and the leader of the Democrat Party!

    Our parties strong stand against the Constitution and Rule of Law for Illegal Immigration should bring the Illegal Immigrants into our camp. Indeed, all immigrants from around the world that want to immigrate to the USA but do not want to go thought. the hassle of legal Immigration will support us. Finally American can live up to its creed under the Democrats and Citizens of the world irregardless of Religion, Race, Tribe, Nationally, Education, Diseases or Skills can come to American and be citizens of this great Nation and the Democrat party while slopping at the trough of public welfare! Our growing and expanding population with our teeming masses from sea to polluted sea will drive our wages to third world status and allow to us compete with China, India, and other third world countries and end outsourcing of our jobs.

    It may require a balancing act having both the Blacks and Latinos under the same tent with Latino hater of Blacks while Blacks are very upset over Latinos Hi-Jacking their civil rights by equating walking across a border to the nearest welfare office, as the same as blacks experienced with slavery. T

    I think as a seasoned, & experienced drug user Obama and as he says in his book , knowing how to score some blow, he will address how backward, unfair and punitive our drug laws are and legalize drugs. This would release millions of Drug users and drug dealers from prison. They, with their knowledge and experience could go into selling, distribution and expanding the legal drug trade and help our economy and the Black & Hispanic communities. In addition to saving tax payers Tens of Billions now spend in incarceration, prevention and drug fighting cost. Of course, all drugs would have a high tax but still be much cheaper than Illegal drugs. We could earmark the tax receipts from drugs to the millions of Uneducated Immigrants we gave American citizenship to help offset the net cost of 20k per year each cost in public welfare. This would reduced the price of drugs to where the average American citizen could afford good coke, just like the elites and Politicians, This will also reduce the price of creak for our poorer citizens, and make their life more enjoyable for our teeming masses. But I fear legalizing drugs will be beyond even Obama. The drugs lords have so many Billions due to high prices , to share with our Politicians to keep our borders open for drugs, illegal immigrants, and terrorist to pour across, that the special interests will never let him legalize drugs. I know Obama, you will do your best and that is all we can ask!



  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 9:12:12 PM

    More of a one-trick pony, notroubleatall196

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 9:11:20 PM

    Black Saint = Modern Day Klansman???

  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 9:02:01 PM

    "scary to see how the truth really doesn't matter any more" Any more, notroubleatall1963? Is that not the nature of this (and let's be honest, even Barry plays the game sometimes)

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 9:08:36 PM

      Not sure what you mean. Who to believe then?

  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 9:08:28 PM

    I am SO sorry, black saint! I had not realized you only have one thought. . .feel free to post it, whenever the mood takes you.

  • Posted By: black saint @ 08/01/2008 9:02:21 PM

    As everyone but politicians & the Media knows, Action talks, Bull Sh-t walks! Barrack sit at the feet of his friend and Mentor for 20 years, supported him with his money, his family, subjected his children to his hate filled rants and listened to hate whites, Jews, American, hate everyone with the exception of Blacks and Muslims!

    Barrack & his wife are American hating, Black Power Racist proven by 20 years of attending & supporting the Church of Hate and backed up by Barracks words in Dreams of my Father!

    All the pundits, talking heads, Liberal drivel and warm tingling feeling below their waist, cannot change the facts.

    Now, he says it was repugnant to him and he does not endorse it or agree! It is 20 years too late for anyone with an brain to accept. Either Barrack is lying or he has an serious mental problem! No one in their right mind would sit in the church of hate for 20 years and support it every way possible, unless they agreed with the message or they were crazy!

    What if an White Republican politician had sit at the feet of his Friend and Mentor in an Baptist Church for 20 years and listened to him preach, rant and spew out racist hate bile against everyone and everything except Whites and Baptists.

    Oh, The Outrage, the Moral Condemnation, The Media, Blacks leaders & all the Black Rev's crawling out of every cracker jack box, the Liberals and Democrats would be squealing like pigs caught under the gate! The squealing would be heard around the world and seriously threaten the collective hearing of the Nation!

    Republican politicians chiming in loudly to prove how politically correct they are.

    What does Barrack, the Magnificent (May Peace be upon Him) have to do? Why just make an nice little speech blaming it all on his little old white grandmother, just throw her under the bus of his racist prejudice and if that is not enough, just whites in general!

    But Wait, that speech was for the Rev. Wright and his hate rants, Not why Barrack the Chosen one, the scion of the Muslim goat lover, the deserted son of the typical black father, the one that has came to lead American and the world to the promise land. Barrack the deaf one sit in the church for 20 years and listened to his Friend and Mentor spew out hate Rants. That He, the Supreme one, found repugnant and disgusting but with just one little speech and never answer why the Magnificent One and his Wife (may Peace be upon them) has so much hate and all is right and forgiven in Barrack land!

    If nothing else this campaign has Exposed the racism of Blacks and the total Blinding, Unbelievable Hypocrisy, the like of any Balance or Morals that the Liberals, Democrats, and Media have! They have been exposed as Lying, Deceitful, Bigoted Hypocrites, Unable or Unwilling to face or to tell the truth!

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 9:07:46 PM

      Wow, Blacks might be a little "damaged" for all the Whites have done to them through the decades in this country. Let's see, KKK, hangings, burnings, torture, segregation... insults, humiliation, belittling... Have you studied your social history of the US? Why are you so scared?

  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 9:04:26 PM

    black saint, once was at least an harangue; this is merely tedious. . .

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