Can Obama Stay Above the Fray?

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  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 8:21:59 PM

    holyroler, do you think that the spittle dribbling from your lips as you declaim enhamces or takes away from your obviously well thought out position on Obama? For example: "HolyRoller @ 08/01/2008 20:14:44

    Comment: How,s this...silly little sissy...punk....pompous...idiot...doper...Jr Sen....Jr Sen on the down low...commie...did I say PUNK.....BUT most of all.........

    Hussein Obama is a Crook and a Fraud.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/01/2008 8:25:05 PM

      I would say that is a pretty good description of Hussein. Oh yea...I left out...MOHAMMED.

      NOBAMA

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:27:55 PM

        Perhaps Holy Roller is the crook and the fraud. He's obviously extremely disturbed...

        • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 8:31:39 PM

          Don't they call that projecting in psychotherapy? Although I think holirooler is a bit past help. . .probably kind to children and small animals, though. . .

          • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:35:22 PM

            He's actually more intelligent than he projects himself on these blogs. He just gets all riled up like a madman and thinks he knows something going down. But he's all bluster and drool, and just like the Sound and Fury,...etc.

            • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 8:37:33 PM

              He's right. . .something big IS going down. . .our first black president. . .I guess that's the connection that turns on his bile gland

              • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 9:00:36 PM

                I know. Having a Black (bi-racial at that!) President is really something to get excited about. It's a history-making moment for the US and a defining moment in our history, especially considering we had segregationi in my lifetime ... but Holy is very excited about this, and wants the world to know how much he adores Obama.

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/01/2008 8:34:52 PM

          what disturbs me is this....ANY American could support such a pompous, lack of character, lack of legislative achievements, associate and friend of HATE AMERICA creeps, commie leaning, mohammed RACIST.

          It shows that P.T. Barnum was right...."There is a sucker born every minute." It's Ludicris.

          NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/01/2008 8:42:21 PM

    You've got Holy Roller all wrong. He is a purified person who writes the most eloquent posts of all. His name actually tells you this. He has a mischievous nephew who is a brilliant computer geek. This nephew set Holy Roller's computer keys askew and even though his fingers have typed material that all would enjoy, it comes out in another form. The proper way to read his posts is to simply imagine the best of the best in his theme, really supportive of Barack Obama, and empathize with him over the misfortune of having to raise his twisted orphaned nephew, an evil computer genius. With Holy's proven persistence, it is a forgone conclusion that he will straighten his nephew out in September and help Obama to victory in November. Remember, I told you this first.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:58:37 PM

      hahahaha, very funny! I always suspected that of Holy.

      He likes to grab the attention away from Obama, and get us bloggers all some comic relief. We do comiserate for his plight with the evil twin or whatever he is...

  • Posted By: vbarbarino @ 08/01/2008 8:45:33 PM

    What an awful article. Many of those things that Clift asserts are "untrue," are in fact, true. Obama was allowed to visit the troops, period. But no cameras, no Obama. And those quotes that she says were taken "out of context," were just grouped together. I have heard the full quote on each of those, and they are much worse that the snippets McCain used. Lastly, I fully expected her repeated use of
    "Zen-like" to be tongue in cheek, but of course it wasn't.. What a pile of garbage.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:57:07 PM

      Wow, scary to see how the truth really doesn't matter any more. The "truth" is what people CHOOSE to believe, from all the crap they ingest on the Internet, TV, radio and blogs. Just shows how much our plebiscite has been diminished in the past 8 years under the Bush regime, which set such a good example.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/01/2008 8:16:52 PM

    We live in a junkyard. We didn't move there. It came and surrounded us. It started with the junkyard dog campaign tactics invented by Karl Rove and it won. The proprietor of our junkyard home is named Bush. Now, the same tactics are beginning for Senator Mc Cain's campaign. If he wins, we will not get to move to a better neighborhood, but we will stay in the junkyard with the dogs. When you get into office with junkyard dog tactics, the public has no idea what you intend to do with the power. The power that the junkyard dogs gave to the idiot prince was used to turn our home into the junkyard that we live in. China owns the junkyard now, in effect, because we owe them the price of the whole concern. Maybe they will repossess it one day and we can live in a chinese laundry.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/01/2008 8:29:52 PM

      everytime I read your posts...I come to the same conclusion. For someone who goes by Old and wise...You sure are dense.

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/01/2008 8:44:23 PM

        Guess you got me there, Holy. I'll keep trying.

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:33:46 PM

        Well, Holy, your posts make you sound like a bull in a china shop. All bluster and fuster, some crashing and bashing, and then you herd out of the shop in a blaze of cowpies.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:26:55 PM

      Funny, great analogy..

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:13:21 PM

    We should be so lucky to have a brilliant, well educated, energetic, purposeful rock star to run our country! If Mick Jagger (who graduated from the London School of Economics) had run for Prime Minister of Britain, I bet he would have won hands down...

    But no way - our own dumb electorate sees this as a threat. We're thinking of cutting off our noses to spite our faces again and elect another GOP idiot to lead us off a cliff. By golly, when do we all wise up here? Is the whole country stupid, or is it just some of these bloggers?

    Someone like Obama would have a lot more appeal to the younger generations of voters, even some of us older ones. But McCain attracts all the older white stodgier voters and their champions. Well, we shall see who wins in the Fall. We've got a long time from now.

    And Obama is pretty street smart when it comes to politics. I bet he bounces back when the time is right. Like a smart jockey in a long horse race - save your best energy for the last furlongs to the finish! And take the prize.

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/01/2008 8:27:17 PM

      The tactic is simple. List all of the attributes of your opponent and then turn them into something ugly. Popularity, for instance, becomes incompetence, the point being that popular people are not competent if you use an example of an incompetent popular person in your attack ad. This tactic implies that vulgar old farts with whistling teeth who have to look down to read everything that they say to a crowd, are so repulsive that they have no chance of being popular and hence will make the most competent leader that our nation has ever had. If that's what the voters want, then that's what we get. Look what it got us the last two elections for the office. It all proves that even great and intelligent nations can also fall on their butts in a cloud of stupidity in history's unerring path to the edge of the earth. It has to be strong to survive this stuff. Poison. Blood poisoning. National blood poisoning. Self administered.

      • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/01/2008 8:32:38 PM

        We need to hire Holy Roller to purge us of this poison. He can purify our blood again with his eloquence. The poison will have no choice but to run from him. Dr. Holy Roller, you are up to bat on this.

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:29:27 PM

        Heroin, more like.

        You write so well, love your posts!

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:04:35 PM

    Obama is no weeping elitist either. He'll smack back or luck will swing in his favor - he had a great week overseas, and returned to a mediocre week dominated by moronic distractions from the GOP once again. What else is new in America?

    Gott a luv it.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/01/2008 8:12:20 PM

      he is done

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:14:02 PM

        You wish.

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/01/2008 8:20:54 PM

          Nope...I KNOW...It is just getting started. Obama Nation debuted at #1 on Amazon. PROOF he is a communist, Islamic sympathizing, crook and a fraud. I could go on...don't want to give away the end of the book.

          I told all ya'll Hopium addicts...The Kerry Swiftboats will look like little rubber duckies.

          McCain will carry MINIMUM 35 states. Most likely much higher.

          NOBAMA!!!

          • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:31:18 PM

            Clutching at feeble straws, Holy. What goes around comes around.

            It's your Karma, baby. Dig it.

  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 8:07:25 PM

    "He deserves that label, rock star" Well Mr. Marshall, it's good to see you repeating the party line!

    Now, would you happen to have any of your own thoughts to share?

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/01/2008 8:14:44 PM

      How,s this...silly little sissy...punk....pompous...idiot...doper...Jr Sen....Jr Sen on the down low...commie...did I say PUNK.....BUT most of all.........

      Hussein Obama is a Crook and a Fraud.

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 8:18:16 PM

        As a wise man once said, "We get the government we deserve. . .either we, the electorate, see through the lies, or we don't. . " So, quiet down

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 08/01/2008 8:22:11 PM

          sure I will

          NOBAMA!!!

          • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 8:27:35 PM

            You're getting deeper, holiroler, watch out you don't get vertigo. . .

  • Posted By: Rapport @ 08/01/2008 8:17:43 PM

    McCain claims that these attacks were fun and humorous. Looks like we have another clown auditioning for the most important job in the world.

  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 8:15:59 PM

    Which is why I should pay less attention to the mendacious bleatings of the right. . .notroubleatall1963

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:17:13 PM

      Yes, you're right... ;-)

  • Posted By: Rapport @ 08/01/2008 8:16:34 PM

    McCain claims that these attacks were humorous and fun. Looks like we have another court jester auditioning for the most important job in the world.

  • Posted By: John Marshall @ 08/01/2008 8:04:28 PM

    The Britney-Paris-Europe ad did a very effective job of labelling Obama as an empty celebrity. He deserves that label. He earned it. The tour of Europe and the rockstar appearance at Germany's most important monument screamed empty rockstar. The speech that he gave at the German gate screamed empty idealism. Together, all of that screams "juvenile." So, Obama asked for the Britney-Paris connection. Why not give it to him?

    Now, in a normal election year, one would expect Obama's juvenile antics to bring about his own destruction. But this is not a normal election year. The MainStream Media are firmly in Obama's grasp. They present Obama's juvenile events as worthy of praise: "see how the world loves him!" Some large number of voters respond positively to the MSM's praise. That element must be tackled head-on by McCain's strategists. Otherwise, McCain loses the election. The Britney ad did just what was needed. It said to the public and to the MSM, Obama's rockstar events are worth just as much as Britney's rockstar events. They are juvenile.

    In any election, candidates must label their opponents in some negative way. In other words, you must encourage voters to recognize shortcomings and view them negatively. The hot air balloon that is Obama and the MSM must be popped. There is no alternative. The McCain campaign strategists created an ad that is a brilliant response to Obama and the MSM.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:07:36 PM

      God, only in my country would a person who did superbly in a substantive foreign relations tour be derided as an "empty suit" -- people are so jealous.

      If it were McSame who got 200,000 people to wave US flags and respond so favorably, you would be lauding him as a genius.

      It's all in the politics. This too shall pass. We still have a long ways to go.

      If you want a doddering old man ruining your country, you have every right to cast your vote for him.

      But leave the rest of us to choose more wisely for the rest of the country.

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 8:02:36 PM

    I think Obama treated Hillary like a gentleman. She pulled some classic sh-- on him during her campaign and turned a lot of folks off.

    The McCain camp is just struggling for attention. This too shall pass. Obama will be elected this year.

    McCain is a loser, judging from his campaign's mismanagement, lack of message, distracting, dumbing-down tactics -- it's pure entertainment, fluff -- maybe some of it comic relief, but ultimately, he's showing the true colors of the GOP = MORONIC. A party for idiots, short-sighted blubbermouths with a penchant for getting everything wrong and screwed up beyond all recognition.

  • Posted By: KYJurisDoctor @ 08/01/2008 6:20:05 PM

    It is OBVIOUS that John McCain needs a NEW set of advisers! OsiSpeaks.com

    • Posted By: fowlowl @ 08/01/2008 6:24:49 PM

      A new set of advisors? How's that? Have you noticed the polls over the last week? They're KILLING your boy Obama.

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/01/2008 7:57:27 PM

        This too shall pass!

  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 7:54:36 PM

    What, no love, Noir Sainte?

  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 7:50:08 PM

    This is the kind of lies we can more eailiy see through. . .the man has no subtlety:

    "But Wait, that speech was for the Rev. Wright and his hate rants, Not why Barrack the Chosen one, the scion of the Muslim goat lover. . ."

  • Posted By: Langley @ 08/01/2008 7:50:00 PM

    Looks like he has your vote. You might agree to imprison McCain too.

  • Posted By: Snerdgrasse @ 08/01/2008 7:47:56 PM

    We get the government we deserve. . .either we, the electorate, see through the lies, or we don't. . .

  • Posted By: Langley @ 08/01/2008 7:47:42 PM

    Do you recommend we put Mccain in prison and install Obama?

  • Posted By: black saint @ 08/01/2008 7:45:25 PM

    As everyone but politicians & the Media knows, Action talks, Bull Sh-t walks! Barrack sit at the feet of his friend and Mentor for 20 years, supported him with his money, his family, subjected his children to his hate filled rants and listened to hate whites, Jews, American, hate everyone with the exception of Blacks and Muslims!

    Barrack & his wife are American hating, Black Power Racist proven by 20 years of attending & supporting the Church of Hate and backed up by Barracks words in Dreams of my Father!

    All the pundits, talking heads, Liberal drivel and warm tingling feeling below their waist, cannot change the facts.

    Now, he says it was repugnant to him and he does not endorse it or agree! It is 20 years too late for anyone with an brain to accept. Either Barrack is lying or he has an serious mental problem! No one in their right mind would sit in the church of hate for 20 years and support it every way possible, unless they agreed with the message or they were crazy!

    What if an White Republican politician had sit at the feet of his Friend and Mentor in an Baptist Church for 20 years and listened to him preach, rant and spew out racist hate bile against everyone and everything except Whites and Baptists.

    Oh, The Outrage, the Moral Condemnation, The Media, Blacks leaders & all the Black Rev's crawling out of every cracker jack box, the Liberals and Democrats would be squealing like pigs caught under the gate! The squealing would be heard around the world and seriously threaten the collective hearing of the Nation!

    Republican politicians chiming in loudly to prove how politically correct they are.

    What does Barrack, the Magnificent (May Peace be upon Him) have to do? Why just make an nice little speech blaming it all on his little old white grandmother, just throw her under the bus of his racist prejudice and if that is not enough, just whites in general!

    But Wait, that speech was for the Rev. Wright and his hate rants, Not why Barrack the Chosen one, the scion of the Muslim goat lover, the deserted son of the typical black father, the one that has came to lead American and the world to the promise land. Barrack the deaf one sit in the church for 20 years and listened to his Friend and Mentor spew out hate Rants. That He, the Supreme one, found repugnant and disgusting but with just one little speech and never answer why the Magnificent One and his Wife (may Peace be upon them) has so much hate and all is right and forgiven in Barrack land!

    If nothing else this campaign has Exposed the racism of Blacks and the total Blinding, Unbelievable Hypocrisy, the like of any Balance or Morals that the Liberals, Democrats, and Media have! They have been exposed as Lying, Deceitful, Bigoted Hypocrites, Unable or Unwilling to face or to tell the truth!




  • Posted By: All4America @ 08/01/2008 7:28:23 PM

    The Obama camp started playing the race card against the Clintons at the start of the Democratic primaries. Let's be candid, race-baiting has been an integral part of Obama's electoral strategy. And, the fawning MSM has been helping Obama's campaign in this low road effort. Some instances of race-bating against the Clintons during the primaries:

    - Deliberate misinterpretation of Bill Clinton's "fairy tale" comment.

    - Deliberate misinterpretation of Hillary's comment that MLK was the activist leader of the movement for Civil Rights and LBJ the President who made Civil Rights a reality by leading the effort to get Civil Rights legislation enacted.

    - Deliberate misinterpretation of Bill Clinton's comments in the SC primary regarding Jesse Jackson's primary wins in two previous elections.

    - Numerous accusations of racism against the Clintons by the MSM fed by Obama's campaign operatives.

    Reality Check: The Clintons have demonstrated their commitment to Civil Rights and equality through a lifetime of deeds ??? not just words. It is appalling that Obama never issued a statement to correct the unfounded and despicable accusations of racism against the Clintons during the primaries.

    As Obama campaigns around the country, if he wants to be reminded who's to blame for introducing the race card in this campaign, he only needs to install mirrors right in front of his airplane and limousine seats.

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