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  • Posted By: R Lawrence @ 08/08/2008 6:00:52 PM

    While it is true that the US and other allies helped create these monsters called Talaban and Alieda, it is worth mentioning in this discussion that those were different times and for different reasons. Afganistan has throughout history been at the crosss roads between occupation and indipendance but has not been able to free itself from being occupied and has never really been a free and indipendant country. Everyone, in and out of the region, has played a role in one way or another at different times. Their dream of freedom after the Talaban were trown from power has not been achieved but the entire dream and effort has not been lost either. Is Pakastan a problem? The answer is yes but only conditionally, because every country - including Pakastan - has to look out for it's best interest , always and formost. This country is now the front line on the War on Terror and regardless of how the war - which will take generations- ends it has to consider what is in it's best interest after the US, NATO, and all other interests move from the region. It will still have to provide for it's citizens and the region along the Afgan border will remain there for it to put back together. What should the world leaders involved, US, NATO, UN, Islamic Nations and Pakistan do? Well, a united from involving all the world against the Talaban and Alqieda would be a good start. These two terrorist groups are criminals and the world needs to confront them like you do all other criminal interprises. Islam is just a convinient excuse to get local uneducated and ignorant people to join their cause. Fight terror with terror is the answer. Instead of using the military, use special forces that include Pakistan personnel and strike terrorist in the same way that they are fighting. This terrorists are cowards and are not ten feet tall. Pakistan ISI and military can be effectively moved to participate in a process like this if the world would demonstrate unity and support, rather than demanding that they fight on our behalf. Eventually, Pakistan will view this fight as their fight also because their own national interest is at stake also.

    • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 08/23/2008 9:39:56 AM

      MR Lawrence, the ISI, the Army, and the FC are in bed with the T-ban. You cannot tell the P-stani's of impending ops, it goes from our mouths-to the T-ban's ear. 6 months ago there were 30+ camps, the P-stani's, when they clearly were not going to stand up, the number shot up to almost 100. Now, there are over 157 camps. So, who let that happen? Why does former ISI chief Hamid Gul attend Taliban meetings? Wake up. They are NOT going to help. NATO can do a whole lot better, but they have let us down. We need to smash those camps ourselves, then put a couple Batts. on choppers to clean out the rats nests. Man, people keep thinking we can stop this w/out hitting them where they live. No way. We are sitting ducks in some of those OP's on the border. Wish we could hit them where they live, NOT where I live. Good day, Sir.

    • Posted By: Shakmad @ 08/11/2008 1:06:01 AM

      Finally someone has told the truth like you Mr. Lawrence about America???s evil role in creating Taliban & Al Qaeeda monsters and although it was done at different time & different reasons you cannot escape the consequence of that evil scheme with the blowback that followed.Now America & the west instead of blaming everything on Pakistan which has its own national security interests as you admitted needs to work together with Pakistan to root out Taliban & Al Qaeeda from FATA tribal areas which is the same area from where a couple of decades ago America & the west were sending the jihadists to fight the russians for their starategic purpose with utter disregard for the bad consequences.
      It is also time for the hypocrite American & the western media who were silent when America was preparing to go to war with Iraq to stop their ugly propaganda against Pakistan because enough is enough and Pakistani people are noting this biased coverage against Pakistan thanks to Indian & Zionist lobbies and are ready for all the challenges.

      Also note that Pakistan is country of 170 million brave people with a professional army of regulars & reserves of more than 1 million and has nuclear & conventional ballistic missiles & knows how to defend itself against aggression.

  • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 08/23/2008 9:25:21 AM

    157 camps in Waziristan. P-stan's gov. is NOT the government in this territory. It is ruled by a hostile entity, and when the P-stani's roll out that "sovereignty" sob story its NAUSEATING. Bomb those camps to dust, put boots on the ground to clean up the rest, and tell those 2 faced P-stani swine to stay the hell outta the way. I bet the attacks in A-stan drop dramatically.

  • Posted By: premabhay @ 08/23/2008 6:56:28 AM

    Mr Abramowitz provides a nice historical analysis that fails to take into account what is happening now in Pakistan. The current government, as did the (former) President Musharaff, went from failed diplomacy to failed miltary confrontation. On Saturaday the government launched major millitary action against the Taliban. The Pakistan government is finding out that the main border problem is that between northwest Pakistan and Pakistan as a whole. So despite all the analysis and possible course of action, all that supporters of the Afghan government needed to do was wait until the international border problem became an intra-national border problem (for Pakistan). In other words, how do you coax or coerce Pakistan into addressing the problem? The answer is simply wait until the problem comes to them and they realize that it is their problem. This has now occurred.

    Prem Abhay

  • Posted By: asadwahid @ 08/14/2008 8:20:32 PM

    I would PARTLY agree with Mr. Abramowitz:is that the solution to Afghanistan lies not in military terms alone.

    If the source of all of Afghanistan's problems lie in Pakistan than can someone please inform me why nothing is being done against the Poppy cultivations in Afghanistan along with the rampant drug trade (which is a MAJOR source of funding for the terrorists and insurgents in Afghanistan and the world over)? Isnt it a fact that ever since the present Afghan government came into power that drug trade has flourished in that country? I am sure the Afghan government would blame Pakistani's for this also by crossing into Afghanistan each night and tending to the billions of dollars worth of fields of drugs all over Afghanistan.

    When people talk about the money being given to Pakistan, what they fail to mention is that MUCH of that aid has been given in compensation to the military in support of its operations as well as for its logistical support to the allies in Afghanistan. No one talks about the economic damage sustained by the Pakistani economy and its infrastructure with regards to becoming a victim by way of the phenomena of suicide bombing, violent protests, strikes etc which were all a result of Pakistan's participation in the 'war on terror'. With the economy in tatters, more young disillusioned people fall prey as 'cannon fodder' in the hands of extremists and the situation only gets worse.


    The problems of Afghanistan and Pakistan do not lie in military action alone on the Afghan-Pakistan border. It lies in winning the hearts and minds of the people on both sides of the border through providing them with education, basic infrastructure development, healthcare and political empowerment and a proper and effective judicial system. It is a historic fact that no insurgency has been effectively subdued without first getting the general population on the side of the 'counter-insurgents'. This is the ONLY main factor that can guarantee success. If at least some of the resources being currently spent on the military operations is spent on the above, the results would be far more effective and positive.


    I am however, disappointed that a respected publication like Newsweek would let such arbitary articles be published.


  • Posted By: asadwahid @ 08/14/2008 8:18:18 PM

    I would PARTLY agree with Mr. Abramowitz:is that the solution to Afghanistan lies not in military terms alone.

    If the source of all of Afghanistan's problems lie in Pakistan than can someone please inform me why nothing is being done against the Poppy cultivations in Afghanistan along with the rampant drug trade (which is a MAJOR source of funding for the terrorists and insurgents in Afghanistan and the world over)? Isnt it a fact that ever since the present Afghan government came into power that drug trade has flourished in that country? I am sure the Afghan government would blame Pakistani's for this also by crossing into Afghanistan each night and tending to the billions of dollars worth of fields of drugs all over Afghanistan.

    When people talk about the money being given to Pakistan, what they fail to mention is that MUCH of that aid has been given in compensation to the military in support of its operations as well as for its logistical support to the allies in Afghanistan. No one talks about the economic damage sustained by the Pakistani economy and its infrastructure with regards to becoming a victim by way of the phenomena of suicide bombing, violent protests, strikes etc which were all a result of Pakistan's participation in the 'war on terror'. With the economy in tatters, more young disillusioned people fall prey as 'cannon fodder' in the hands of extremists and the situation only gets worse.


    The problems of Afghanistan and Pakistan do not lie in military action alone on the Afghan-Pakistan border. It lies in winning the hearts and minds of the people on both sides of the border through providing them with education, basic infrastructure development, healthcare and political empowerment and a proper and effective judicial system.


    I am however, disappointed that a respected publication like Newsweek would let such arbitary articles be published.



  • Posted By: prasadk67 @ 08/07/2008 11:53:11 AM

    To Azfar: Wake up! 'Pakistan is the one of the most important countries...' - yeah right.

    It probably is one of the most notorious ones, and also one of the most trouble-making, so yes, from that point of view it is important. It has a hell of a lot of nuisance value!

    The title is perfect. Pakistan is the problem. India has been getting hit right since 1947 by Pakistan, but no one heard India out - until now. The chickens come to roost.

    • Posted By: Shakmad @ 08/08/2008 2:19:40 AM

      This is a reply to Mr. Prasad.India was in bed with evil Communist empire of U.S.S.R.since 1947until its collapse .Pakistan helped defeat the russians when they invaded Aghanistan in 1979 with American $$ ,arms and training and in the process made America the sole superpower.Now Pakistan is simply paying the price of that war.It will take some time to fix that since it developed over 2 decades and there is no magic wand .But people of Pakistan will not allow America or any other country in the world in future to use them for their strategic purpose. The problem is this zionist writer Abramowitz who was overseeing the afghan war of 80s and creating jihadists to fight the russians without thinking about the consequences and now conveniently by sheer hypocrisy playing the blame game and the extremists are taking advantage of the bickering between U.S , NATO,Pakistan ,etc.
      Pakistanis are very resilient people and will overcome current challenges like in the past and you should worry about your new found friend USA which is gradually dictating the policies to India as regarding Iran etc.

    • Posted By: Azfar @ 08/07/2008 11:10:21 PM

      My dear Prasad, this is your thought but not the reality. I am involveed in the peace process of India and Pakistan as well and I dont want to comment on India's role in this region. Because I want good relations with both the countries. Do you have any solid evidence against Pakistan????? Meet me some time with your colleagues and i will also bring my friends to discuss the issues for the betterment of the whole region. May be we will meet in Dubai or at any other place. I want to clarify the facts or realities. Are you ready for DIALOGUE?

  • Posted By: joedog @ 08/07/2008 10:07:24 AM

    The Northwest Frontier. If Pakistan can solve that puzzle, then there shall be peace everywhere.

  • Posted By: PawanK @ 08/06/2008 7:29:49 AM

    'The problem is Pakistan'- I am agreed with the statement and with the facts this statement is based on. U.S.led Coalition should learn a lesson from Soviets' failure. Both, US presidential candidates, better, not speak about sending more troops, in fact, the real solution would be build increasing pressure on Pakistan and also on Afganistan. They are not doing their part well, while getting help from many in the process of rebuilding Afganistan.

    • Posted By: Azfar @ 08/07/2008 7:49:36 AM

      Pakistan is not the problem.....trust me.

      You dont know the actual reality my friend. Pakistan played very well but the US, NATO and Afghan forces and Interior Ministry are unable to manage properly. After their failure of managing peace in the region now they blame on Pakistan.

      I am a BIG FAN OF AMERICANS as I know that Americans are Peace loving but the foreign policy of US is worst in the context of Iraq and South Asia. If you will visit and interact with Americans (from elite, middle-upper, middle and lower classes) than you will came to know that today how Americans are alergic with the foreign policies of US Government. Why a common American is alergic? Because they know that in these policies will further destroyed the image of Americans and will also destroyed the peaceful environment in this world.

  • Posted By: Azfar @ 08/07/2008 7:32:06 AM

    I on behalf of Peoples of Pakistan and all the Peace Activists in the world condemned the title of this article ???Pakistan is the Problem??? by Morton Abramowitz. How Newsweek placed this title without any authentic evidence?

    Pakistan is one of the most important countries in the world and this article destroyed the whole image of Pakistan in front of the world. People who still not visited Pakistan can???t understand about the actual reality after reading this stupid article. Whenever we hosted any American or European or any foreign person in Pakistan they became the ambassadors of Pakistan.

    I personally hosted world top dignitaries in Pakistan and today they love Pakistan and Pakistanis.

    Newsweek should print the apology about this article and the Writer Morton Abramowitz should write another article and clarify the facts or realities.

    Muhammad Azfar Ahsan
    Peace Activist

  • Posted By: Azfar @ 08/07/2008 7:00:37 AM

    I am shocked to read the title of this article of Morton Abramowitz. This is injustice with PAKISTAN and with the PEOPLES OF PAKISTAN. Pakistan is a peace loving country and Pakistani's are one of the best peoples in this world.


    Why Pakistan is the Problem? Pakistan was the frontline state during the Afghan-Russia war in 80's and Pakistan played a pivotal role in the defeat of Russia. We, Pakistanis still paid the price and face enormous challenges because of Afghan-Russia war.

    Pakistan is still the front line state after nine eleven incident. We again face the problems of law and order because of this war on terrorism but our governments supported US and NATO forces with full sincerity and dedication. We tried our level best to eradicate terrorism from our region.

    The kiddish attitude or statements of Afghan President Hamid Karzai destroyed the peaceful environment in this important part of the world. The approach of Afghan government is non-professional and highly unethical. They blamed Pakistan after every 48 hours without any evidence. I am not emotional but I critically observed that Afghanistan is the problem for our whole region since last 28 years. But we still tried with full enthusiam to bridge the gap between two countries because a common man or women of Afghanistan are innocent. There is a need to chage the mindset of Afghan government officials and specially the President Karzai.

    DIALOGUE is the only way for peace. Attacking on innocent peoples including kids and women will further deestablise the peace in this region. There is a need of patience, tolerance and trust in the mindsets of all the stakeholders including Afghanistan, US, NATO, Pakistan, India, etc.

    Muhammad Azfar Ahsan
    Peace Activist

  • Posted By: iqbalasim @ 08/07/2008 4:14:26 AM

    This is just selfishness, when Russia was in Afghanistan, American were supporting Pakistan with $s and weapons, Pakistan was their best ally, now they think that Pakistan is the problem when US is loosing their own military men. Increasing pressure on Pakistan will not solve problems, We do not need to understand the history of Afghanistan, we need to understand what Afghan feels? We need to get their confidence level restored.

  • Posted By: peacefulworld @ 08/06/2008 11:28:29 AM

    Do not find escape goats here and there. Analyze your own balance sheet with a sane mind. Pakistan has lost three times more soldiers at the pak afghan border than the lives lost by the us. army. the civilian casualities number in thousands. the collateral damage in terms of dollars is fairely estimated around 20 billion. the integerity of this peace loving nation is at stake, the us military might with its fire power has not been able to capture more than 20% of afghan territory. do we really think us and pak armies are a bunch of gangstersand not professionals? pl. try to think rationally. it is the difficulty of terrain that that never permitted an invader to stay in afghanistan. the british empire took a wise decision to stop their advance at torkhum without incurring heavy losses, the soviets thought they were smart enough to enter in this inferno and could find their way out un burned, now it is us's turn to repeat the same mistake. you dont need to be a political wizard to predict the out come. pl. leave these nomades in their slums alone and the world is going to be a beautiful place.

  • Posted By: MarieDevine @ 08/06/2008 8:26:11 AM

    Solutions are easily available. Within marriage, family, and wars, when one wants to follow the word of God and another doesn't; that is a conflict. God has cross referrenced prophets of various religions and prepared a way for peace. See Helium article:
    Does religion have anything to do with terrorism?
    http://www.helium.com/items/962661-does-religion-have-anything-to-do-with-terrorism

    I have applied to moderate or advise a proposed United Nations Interfaith Special Session that has been requested by leaders of many religions. My application of 7/23/08 is at:
    http://www.forthedivineway.com/un_interfaith_special_session_mediator_advisor.html
    Support it or reject it by commenting to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon

  • Posted By: ayesha_f_moosa @ 08/06/2008 5:41:48 AM

    The problem is not Pakistan. IThe problem is the US administration which tends to interfere anywhere and everywhere, believing it has a right to do so. If the US admin was not so nosy the world would be a better and peaceful place.

  • Posted By: Young Hickory @ 08/05/2008 3:45:20 PM

    After 9/11 Bush said he would make no distinction between terrorists and nations that harbor them. What a lie! He has let terrorists hide in Pakistan for years! Way to go chickenhawk George!

    • Posted By: Shakmad @ 08/06/2008 2:13:30 AM

      This is in response to ignorant " YoungHickory" who does not know that all the current AlQaeeda & Taliban terrorists were funded & trained by US of A over a decade in the 80s to fight the russians in Afghanistan when they were affectionately called Mujahadeen (Jihadists). Now they are coming home to roost ! Do some reading and research about that history before posting your stupid comments . Steve Coll's "Ghost War " and George Crile's "Charlie Wilson's war " will be a good start for you.

    • Posted By: j.n @ 08/06/2008 1:10:03 AM

      Do not forget Israel.

  • Posted By: Dumos @ 08/05/2008 4:38:22 PM

    Wow, what a relief this is!
    So what are we suppose top do. Retreat and let the Taliban enslave and rape women and children. Give them a free hand to encourage children to join Al Qaeda and become suicide bombers in Europe or America.
    Rhather than being a naysayer regarding everything that is being said or done about «Afghanistan and the efforts of the US Forces and its allies, Abramowitz writes two pages of diatribe on why nothing will work without once offering a whisper of a solution.
    Negative feedback - Anyone can do and one qwould think that Newsweek knows better than supporting negativism
    Dumos

    • Posted By: j.n @ 08/06/2008 1:08:40 AM

      We can retreat and let the Taliban enslave and rape the women and children,or we can stay and let the US military kill all of the women and children like they have been doing for the last seven years,which one do you like best Senior Dumos

  • Posted By: j.n @ 08/06/2008 1:03:30 AM

    We can retreat and let the Taliban enslave and rape women and children,or we can stay there and let the US military kill all of the women and childre like they have been doing for seven years,which one do you like best Senior Dumos?.

  • Posted By: coachgjh @ 08/05/2008 11:13:10 PM

    I can't believe the writer for this story. It is, yes, a fact that the US CIA trained the taliban to help with the warding off the occupation of the Soviet Union. The reasons the Soviets lost is our help in Pakistan and Afghanistan. It was a test of our weapons. Fact look it up.
    We are their as the Liberator. We still have a backing of the Pakistan and Afhanistan governments and are know warding out the ones we trained the taliban. I watched a special on National geographic were some Special Forces were trying to calm a hostile region. 10 soldiers against 100+ insurgents. Who would when the scirmishes (cause it wouldn't take long), The US with little or zero casualties. Eleminating them one by one letting Alah sort them out. They are getting so desperate they are now getting women and kids to try and be suicide bombers. Not trying, forcing. The technology we have the enemy doesn't isn't even fair. I am glad to be from the most powerful, country in the world. Yet we have idiots like the writer and other Liberals that think if we reach out a hand of understanding that we can be freinds with them. NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!! They hate us and think we should all die because we are not Islamic (Radicals anyway). That is it.
    Bad for Obhama Bin Lauden is the fact he was against a surge in Iraq that worked. know we have a Kerry platform of flip-flop by saying I wanted to support the surge but didn't know the result and would like to prove it by suggesting a surge in Afghanistan. Sorry, to little to late. Because he may be a history maker we are obligated to vote for a muslim who turned Christian (infidel). Another flip-flop to little to late.

  • Posted By: Dumos @ 08/05/2008 4:32:24 PM

    Wow! what a relief this is!
    Anybody can criticize actions, dismiss re-constructive efforts give up the fight as being lost and wash one's hands of any sequel.
    So what happens if the allies leave the Taliban with a free rein to destroy the country, enslave the women and young girls and encourages the youth of Afghanistan to become Al Qaeda suicide bombers in Europe, the US or Canada. Maybe that's a better solution. At least its easier than what our troops are doing now.
    Instewad of giving all the reasons why something won't work why doesn't Abramowitz offer ways that may work

  • Posted By: miller6d @ 08/05/2008 11:27:12 AM

    It makes me sick reading about the candidates and their plans to continue sending our troops overseas. I have been patiently waiting and praying for my fiance to return safely from Iraq, and now he is due home in less than a week. He is coming home with many biased thoughts about our nation's war, and the monetary involvement that America has with their economy. Most of the contractors that work on our "American" Bases are all Iraqui citizens. They make wages that far outweigh any wages they would make working within their own economy, and in exchange America recieves artillery benfits. It just makes me sick that they want to send so many more troops there. There are ENOUGH there now and they need to come home. Try living without your husband for a year then give me your opinion...

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