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Lisa Miller

Pass the Manischewitz, Please

'They were drinking not only kiddush wine, but fine single-malt whiskey with a sumptuous smorgasbord.'

 
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  • Posted By: ATUD @ 08/08/2008 12:58:21 PM

    Comment: As a 30 year old member of the Modern Orthodox community, I can attest to this behavior firsthand. During my days in college, I saw as many irresponsible drinking incidents as my non-Jewish classmates. However, in my experience, most of these incidents actually did occur under the guise of a religious acitvity - binge drinking on Purim, for example. Or even on a normal Friday night, when no one is operating a car. In high school, I saw kids get drunk when their parents werent home so then they wouldnt feel guilty turning on the TV (prohibited on the Sabbath). And as far as I could tell, much of this stemmed from mixed messages in the community. From a young age, kids are given alcohol at religious events. We were all instructed strictly never to drink and drive, but not to drink on a day when we aren't driving? What's the harm in that? It is easy to see how the distinction between times where alcohol is appropriate and times where it is not can be blurred. Parents will tell you they never encouraged their kids to drink, but it is all too common to see a parent offer their teenage son or daughter a shot of whiskey at a holiday meal, or a family celebration - as a way of bringing them into the adult world. The messages in the community with regard to alcohol are definitely murky, and its not surprising at all that these problems develop. The Orthodox community has a long history of being in denial about its social afflictions (drinking, substance abuse, spousal abuse, neglect, etc) and Rabbi Weinreb has done a lot of work in his career thus far to see to it that these problems do not get swept under the rug, as they have been in the past.

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 08/08/2008 10:53:39 AM

    Comment: If they are discussing it in synagogues that is wonderful, but I'm sure, it is also very recent. And yes, society as a whole is still in denial about many aspects of addiction. But your reference to Otis is part of my point - non-Jewish society in America has always acknowedged that there were drunks in their midst - until very recently Jewish Americans have not; drunks were Gentiles, but not Jews.

    In the professional recovery community - those that work in the recovery business as counselors and therapists - we have always been aware that American Jews have believed there are no Jewish alcoholics. We have always recognized this as a myth - its good to hear that the Jewish community is finally starting to recognize it, too.

    That myth can makeit harder for many Jews to accept their addiction, and the Christian slant of Alcoholics Anonymous doesn't always help, either. Yes, AA touts itself as a spiritual program, and it is, but many AA meetings still close with the Lord's Prayer, and there are other New Testament prayers in the AA literature. There are certainly no prayers from the Torah in the Big Book.

    Faced with a largely Christian-oriented recovery lay community, and given the myths about alcoholism and addiction they may hear at home, Jews have some extra hurdles to overcome in early recovery.

    This article, JACS, and talking openly about the subject in synagogues are welcome and wonderful changes.

  • Posted By: ewas @ 08/08/2008 9:14:46 AM

    Comment: The Orthodox Jewish community, as a whole, sees itself as an example of morality. I am sure that among the orthodox there exists the same struggles with substance abuse. as the rest of the world. Like every other insular community they are not immune from normative developmental challenges. They simply have an elitist attitude and believe that if they follow the tenets of the Torah, everything will be ok. The movie "Trembling Before G-d" is a good example of the way in which the orthodox community deals with its own members' honest acknowledgement of sexual identity that does not conform with what they believe to be acceptable. Denial is not a river!!
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