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  • Posted By: skmonavie @ 08/10/2008 1:50:57 PM

    Shame on you for being so negative and ignorant to the wonderful affects of Monavie. Every business is a pyramid scheme, Think about it. The owner makes the most money and answers to no one. Then the manager is under him and makes less money but only answers to the owner, then the assistant manager and so forth. At least this product gives you the chance to attain financial freedom by offering a product that really helps people. Im so tired of hearing, "the cost of gas is high" so why would people spend money on Monavie. Most people get a starbucks every morning or some form of coffee product ($3.50-$7), then there is the stop at the fast food place for lunch ($6-$9) and maybe an energy drink to give you that boost for the rest of the day ( $3-$5). How much does all that cost? Well I guarantee its more than $4.00 a day, which if you take the recommended amount of 2 ounces a day, that equals out to be $36 in 9 days. Well the bottle retails for $40.00 and it lasts 9 days when taking 2 ounces a day. Plus because of all the health benefits, you can stop taking things like other vitamins, sleep aids, energy drinks, and in some cases, people report doing away with high cost presciptions, just to name a few. What about botox and other skin treatment. One of Monavie's most noted qualities is its ability to keep your skin looking younger and healthier. The tribes that live in Rainforest where the acai berry, the crown jewel of Monavie, is found, consist of people that have lived on this berry their whole lives. Some of which are in their 50's and 60's with amazing skin almost No wrinkles whatsoever. In just three years this company has made over $1 billion in sales, surpassing ebay and Amazon and only 1 out of 100 Americans surveyed, had even heard of Monavie. Conclusion, Monavie has so much potential and at the rate it is going, it is speculated to become a Trillion dollar business in the next two years. I always wanted a job where I helped people, I made great money, and I loved what I did. With Monavie I have found my career, and I am so grateful to have found such an opportunity. If anyone wants to try Monavie, or inquire more information about Monavie or how to become a distributor then please feel free to check out my web page at www.the-team.biz/mv1371423. Also my email is hopeandhealth@hotmail.com. If you have already done your research and would like to jump on board then go to monavie.com and use my distributor ID ( 1371423 )so you may enroll. Thank you for your time.


  • Posted By: Foundation Health @ 08/10/2008 12:42:39 PM

    Health benefits of the acai berry include its anti-inflammatory, antibacterial, antioxidant and antimutagenic properties, and its benefits for the cardiovascular system.

    Acai fruit contains Omega-3 and Omega-6 as well as Omega-9 which help lower "bad" cholesterol.

    The following information on acai is from wikipedia

    The Acai Fruit
    Acai berries are harvested as food. In a study of three traditional Caboclo populations in the Amazon region of Brazil, acai palm was described as the most important plant species because the acai fruit makes up such a major component of diet (up to 42% of the total food intake by weight) and is economically valuable in the region (Murrieta et al., 1999).

    The juice and pulp of acai fruits (Euterpe oleracea) are frequently used in various juice blends, smoothies, sodas, and other beverages. In northern Brazil, açaí is traditionally served in gourds called "cuias" with tapioca and sometimes sugar. Acai has become a fad in southern Brazil where it is consumed cold as açaí na tigela ("açaí in the bowl"), mostly mixed with granola - a fad where acai is considered as an energizer. Acai is also widely consumed in Brazil as an ice cream flavor or juice.

    As acai deteriorates rapidly after harvest, its raw material is generally only available outside the immediate growing region as acai juice or acai fruit pulp that has been frozen, dried acai, or freeze-dried. However, several companies now manufacture acai juices, other health drinks, and sorbets made from acai berries, often in combination with other fruits.

    The above information is from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acai
    Acai fruit is sold in various different forms. Pure dried acai, organic acai, acai juice, acai supplements, acai pulp and so on.

    The Foundation for Health http://www.foundationhealth.com

  • Posted By: Foundation Health @ 08/10/2008 12:41:18 PM

    Health benefits of the acai berry include its anti-inflammatory, antibacterial, antioxidant and antimutagenic properties, and its benefits for the cardiovascular system.

    Acai fruit contains Omega-3 and Omega-6 as well as Omega-9 which help lower "bad" cholesterol.

    The following information on acai is from wikipedia

    The Acai Fruit
    Acai berries are harvested as food. In a study of three traditional Caboclo populations in the Amazon region of Brazil, acai palm was described as the most important plant species because the acai fruit makes up such a major component of diet (up to 42% of the total food intake by weight) and is economically valuable in the region (Murrieta et al., 1999).

    The juice and pulp of acai fruits (Euterpe oleracea) are frequently used in various juice blends, smoothies, sodas, and other beverages. In northern Brazil, açaí is traditionally served in gourds called "cuias" with tapioca and sometimes sugar. Acai has become a fad in southern Brazil where it is consumed cold as açaí na tigela ("açaí in the bowl"), mostly mixed with granola - a fad where acai is considered as an energizer. Acai is also widely consumed in Brazil as an ice cream flavor or juice.

    As acai deteriorates rapidly after harvest, its raw material is generally only available outside the immediate growing region as acai juice or acai fruit pulp that has been frozen, dried acai, or freeze-dried. However, several companies now manufacture acai juices, other health drinks, and sorbets made from acai berries, often in combination with other fruits.

    The above information is from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acai
    Acai fruit is sold in various different forms. Pure dried acai, organic acai, acai juice, acai supplements, acai pulp and so on.

    The Foundation for Health http://www.foundationhealth.com

  • Posted By: whocaresx @ 08/10/2008 11:09:48 AM

    Ah, a sucker is born every minute! What took you so long to do a report on these snake oil salesmen (and women). Xango has been around for a while promoted in the same deceitful way. A friend of mine was pestering me for quite some time to try Xango because it was the magic elixir! Promises of cures and treatments if only I would swallow it daily. I finally had enough and repeatedly asked for documented facts or research proving that this wonder of wonders actually did wwhat people claimed. A little research on the articles and web sites offered as proof revealed that the sellers of the product haven't read it or don't understand it.

    MonaVie is Xango, Xango is MonaVie. They're sold by multi-level marketing (MLM)because they would have to compete with other juices on the supermarket shelf and would sell for $3.99 a bottle. They sell for $39.00 so thet the people at the top can take a big cut and everybody down the line gets a little piece of the pie. MLM relies on personal persuasion to support the inflated prices of products. Why would anyone pay $39.00 for a bottle of fruit juiice? For MonaVie and Xango, it's the promise of cures and better health.

    They way in which Xango and MonaVie are sold is particularly unethical. The sellers of these product don't actually claim cures, they tell you stories of other people making these claims. Here's how it works: Say you're interested in the product and go to one of the sales meetings. While there you'll see people stand up and claim that it miraculously cured their cancer, eliminated their diabetes or stopped lifelong migraine headaches.

    So that's how they sell the product by having people stand up and make unproven statements about the product. And if those people aren't present, the sellers just say something like, " Jim Jones was at our last meeting and he stated that Xango/MonaVie stopped his migraine headaches. He's had migraines his whole life and they stopped when he started drinking MonaVie/Xango." The sellers of this snake oil believe that by having someone else make unproven statements or by quoting someone else, it absolves them of any ethics or honesty.

    When you're in business you're expected to be honest and ethical. The sellers of these products are neither. As for the buyers, well, people just want to believe. Even if it's not believable.

    by One Who Wasn't Swindled

  • Posted By: nwfla_man @ 08/10/2008 9:50:25 AM

    If you want to drink acai juice for it's beneifits try www.amazonthunder.com/evenbetter It's 100% organic juice. No additives or fillers. No membership to join, no fees to pay, and no saleing to do. You can get the acai in juice, powder, gel, and capsules. This is the one that was on the Oprah Show. One bottle will last an entire month so there is less to buy and it's on sale now for buy 3 get 1 free with a money back guarantee. Get the juice without the hype. Drink the juice, Feel the Power!

  • Posted By: nwfla_man @ 08/10/2008 9:44:20 AM

    If you want to drink acai juice for it's beneifits try www.amazonthunder.com/evenbetter It's 100% organic juice. No additives or fillers. No membership to join, no fees to pay, and no saleing to do. You can get the acai in juice, powder, gel, and capsules. This is the one that was on the Oprah Show. It's on sale now for buy 3 get 1 free with a money back guarantee. Get the juice without the hype. Drink the juice, Feel the Power!

  • Posted By: Prosperous_life @ 08/10/2008 7:51:20 AM

    MonaVie indeed DOES work 100%, if you take it properly and give it time to work.

    Formula of success is very SIMPLE:

    Desire to succeed, commitment, strong leadership team, training, proven marketing plan.

    When you join my team, I make my number ONE priority is to help you succeed and start your business right from the get go!


    The rest is up to you. I do hope that you make the right decision and join the leader.
    Here's why, read my personal story:

    http://www.AlexZubarev.com
    Join the LEADER, join our TEAM!

  • Posted By: MLM Dude Guy @ 08/09/2008 8:09:46 PM

    The funniest thing here is that first the whiners put MonaVie down and then log in as a different person and schlock their own products, what a hoot!

    • Posted By: russanddom @ 08/10/2008 12:11:20 AM

      Thank you for your observation, it is so typical of shady dealers to first lash out at a perfectly good product that is only doing what they said they would ,by providing the best quality nutrition that bodies are so lacking in this modern world, and then trying promote their own inferior products. I have never seen Monavie resorting to this type of underhanded ambush tactics. It goes to show that Integrity is definetly a core value of the COMPANY. kEEP UP THE GOOD WORK YOU ARE DOING, the road to the top is hard but worth the fight

  • Posted By: Lillydee @ 08/09/2008 11:31:52 PM

    To all you Mona Vie Bashers out there that think this company needs to be shut down by the FDA, your a bunch of fools. All of you wedgie having people are starting to get my panties in a wad, and I don???t like it! This is Fruit juice not a drug! And no one claims it is! They just state that it has helped them and may not help all. It's healthy. Yes people have claimed the juice does miraculous things for them, so what it's a personal opinion! There are a lot of products out there that make medical claims. GO AFTER THEM!! An apple a day keeps the doctor away, drink wine it will give you a healthy heart, While nursing drink a beer a day it helps to produce milk, Smoke marijuana it will cure your glaucoma, and helps with nausea. These are just a few things. What about all the prescription drugs that make miraculous claims and do absolutely nothing. Let me remind you bashers Mona Vie is a Fruit juice that seems to help a lot of people, Not Drugs or Alcohol just a wonderful juice. So Back Off! It isn't hurting anyone! I can't say that about some of the products that people have claimed help them. There are many FDA backed prescription drugs that have killed people. So, my question is: ???Why are you all wasting time on a product that has no death toll???? My point is, maybe the FDA should go after all those get rich quick farmers out there selling and promoting apples. After all if I eat one apple a day I won't ever have to see the doctor again. Now if that is not a medical claim I don't know what is? Maybe they should make apples a drug! This is how ridiculous you all sound. As for the MLM thing I choose not to, but I love the JUICE! If you don't like the juice or think it's a scam. Don't buy it!!!!!! Thank God I live in America where I have right to decide for myself!

  • Posted By: Prosperous_life @ 08/09/2008 9:24:14 PM

    MonaVie indeed DOES work 100%, if you take it properly and give it time to work.

    Formula of success is very SIMPLE:

    Desire to succeed, commitment, strong leadership team, training, proven marketing plan.

    When you join my team, I make my number ONE priority is to help you succeed and start your business right from the get go!


    The rest is up to you. I do hope that you make the right decision and join the leader.
    Here's why, read my personal story:
    http://www.AlexZubarev.com
    Join the LEADER, join our TEAM!

  • Posted By: born2bz @ 08/09/2008 4:04:00 PM

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    Zrii will soon dominate the entire network marketing industry and you can be part of that today. Don't waste time thinking about it JUST DO IT! Remember the old saying "you snooze you loose". Do you want to be near the top? Then act today!

    • Posted By: MLM Dude Guy @ 08/09/2008 8:07:53 PM

      Just launched?? You guys have been trying to launch since July of last year. Is Deepak Chopra a rapper or something, Chopra Khan, ha Not sure how you're going to take the MLM industry by storm, your warehouse off I15 south of Salt Lake looks like something I would rent to store my SUVs and snow machines in.Let's all mediate now, owwwWWWWwwwwmmmmmm. Wow, I think I felt a cure or something.

  • Posted By: GetYourFactsRight @ 08/09/2008 1:56:56 PM

    Why doesn't the FTC just shut down ALL MLMs if they are all bad and in violation of FTC rules? There isn???t a chance that there is credibility to the MLM industry is there????? Or is the FTC just not as smart and at seeing what all these anti-MLM whiners here see?? I have to laugh at these people. They speak on the behalf of the FTC and the FDA as if they actually know what they???re talking about, as well as quoting from the same 3 or 4 reports from several years ago. Thank GOD they???re watching out for all of us poor gullible MLMers who don???t have a clue what we???re doing or getting into!! I just want to thank you on behalf of all Networkers. Now all these experts go back to their minimum wage clock punching jobs and let us wallow in our misguided lives.

  • Posted By: gt5323b @ 08/09/2008 1:13:51 AM

    Get involved with the best team to work with in MonaVie!

    Distributors Diane Nafziger and Sherry Whitaker had only around 10 people
    at their New Jersey Holiday Inn event and each earn more than $1 million
    in annual commission. Why not you?

    https://www.monavievo.com/signup/joinus.asp?enrollerid=1198281

    Everyone who signs up off this site will receive first mover advantage!

    This means you will inherit the efforts of everyone who signs up after you, so obviously the sooner you get in, the better!
    Contact me directly on myspace if you have any questions:
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    Some people MAKE things happen,
    others TALK about what's happening,
    and the slowest will ask, "what happened?"

    Practically everything that has had tremendous success has had their following of critics who have nothing better to do with their lives but
    to try to bring things down because they don't believe in themselves enough to do what the successful can.

    • Posted By: Jamie-d @ 08/09/2008 10:11:36 AM

      After reading your post you definitely answered the reason why this is a scam according to the FTC website I was readying. Thanks for showing everyone how you lure people in.

      http://www.ftc.gov/os/comments/businessopprule/522418-12585.pdf .

      • Posted By: GetYourFactsRight @ 08/09/2008 1:37:05 PM

        You're welcome, glad we could help, now go play outside and play abd let us get back sharing our product with everyone.

  • Posted By: Foundation Health @ 08/09/2008 1:16:54 PM

    Health benefits of the acai berry include its anti-inflammatory, antibacterial, antioxidant and antimutagenic properties, and its benefits for the cardiovascular system.

    Acai fruit contains Omega-3 and Omega-6 as well as Omega-9 which help lower "bad" cholesterol.

    The following information on acai is from wikipedia

    The Acai Fruit
    Acai berries are harvested as food. In a study of three traditional Caboclo populations in the Amazon region of Brazil, acai palm was described as the most important plant species because the acai fruit makes up such a major component of diet (up to 42% of the total food intake by weight) and is economically valuable in the region (Murrieta et al., 1999).

    The juice and pulp of acai fruits (Euterpe oleracea) are frequently used in various juice blends, smoothies, sodas, and other beverages. In northern Brazil, açaí is traditionally served in gourds called "cuias" with tapioca and sometimes sugar. Acai has become a fad in southern Brazil where it is consumed cold as açaí na tigela ("açaí in the bowl"), mostly mixed with granola - a fad where acai is considered as an energizer. Acai is also widely consumed in Brazil as an ice cream flavor or juice.

    As acai deteriorates rapidly after harvest, its raw material is generally only available outside the immediate growing region as acai juice or acai fruit pulp that has been frozen, dried acai, or freeze-dried. However, several companies now manufacture acai juices, other health drinks, and sorbets made from acai berries, often in combination with other fruits.

    The above information is from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acai
    Acai fruit is sold in various different forms. Pure dried acai, organic acai, acai juice, acai supplements, acai pulp and so on.

    The Foundation for Health http://www.foundationhealth.com

  • Posted By: Foundation Health @ 08/09/2008 1:16:20 PM

    Health benefits of the acai berry include its anti-inflammatory, antibacterial, antioxidant and antimutagenic properties, and its benefits for the cardiovascular system.

    Acai fruit contains Omega-3 and Omega-6 as well as Omega-9 which help lower "bad" cholesterol.

    The following information on acai is from wikipedia

    The Acai Fruit
    Acai berries are harvested as food. In a study of three traditional Caboclo populations in the Amazon region of Brazil, acai palm was described as the most important plant species because the acai fruit makes up such a major component of diet (up to 42% of the total food intake by weight) and is economically valuable in the region (Murrieta et al., 1999).

    The juice and pulp of acai fruits (Euterpe oleracea) are frequently used in various juice blends, smoothies, sodas, and other beverages. In northern Brazil, açaí is traditionally served in gourds called "cuias" with tapioca and sometimes sugar. Acai has become a fad in southern Brazil where it is consumed cold as açaí na tigela ("açaí in the bowl"), mostly mixed with granola - a fad where acai is considered as an energizer. Acai is also widely consumed in Brazil as an ice cream flavor or juice.

    As acai deteriorates rapidly after harvest, its raw material is generally only available outside the immediate growing region as acai juice or acai fruit pulp that has been frozen, dried acai, or freeze-dried. However, several companies now manufacture acai juices, other health drinks, and sorbets made from acai berries, often in combination with other fruits.

    The above information is from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acai
    Acai fruit is sold in various different forms. Pure dried acai, organic acai, acai juice, acai supplements, acai pulp and so on.

    The Foundation for Health http://www.foundationhealth.com

  • Posted By: Lillydee @ 08/09/2008 1:21:56 AM

    To all you Mona Vie Bashers out there that think this company needs to be shut down by the FDA your a bunch of fools. This is Fruit juice not a drug! And no one claims it is, they just state that it has helped them and may not help all. It's healthy. There are a lot of products out there that make medical claims. GO AFTER THEM!! An apple a day keeps the doctor away, drink wine it will give you a healthy heart, While nursing drink a beer a day it helps to produce milk, Smoke marijuana it will cure your glaucoma, and helps with nausea. These are just a few things. What about all the prescription drugs that make miraculous claims and do absolutely nothing. Let me remind you bashers Mona Vie is a Fruit juice that seems to help alot of people, Not Drugs or Alcohol just a wonderful juice. So Back Off. It isn't hurting anyone. But
    I can't say that about some of the products that people claim help them. And there are many FDA backed prescription drugs that have killed people, So why are you all wasting time on a product that has no death toll!

    • Posted By: Jamie-d @ 08/09/2008 10:06:52 AM

      Lillydee,

      How foolish are you? No one making claims you say. It appears after reading through this article and everyones post on this article, that the Monavie sales force are making a miraculous amount of claims that it cure some kind of disease. They are making it out to be more than what it is to make a sale and it appears the FDA has already issued a Warning against MonaVie. It is a very interesting article by the FDA. Once you make those kind of hideous claims then I know for certain the FDA will come crashing down on MonaVie. Once you start referring to curing diseases like a doctor, then that juice, you so call it, will be considered a DRUG.....
      Even though you say your a customer and not a sales person for Monavie, most of these Monavie sales people are abusing the policy set forth by the company you represent. Not Good....... You sound very defensive when so many facts stand out against MonaVie that portray it to be nothing more than a SCAM! Who would want to get involved with people like this and other MonaVie sales people no matter how effective the product may be. I see the Acai berry everywhere I go now. If the Acai berry is being sold in many juices at stores, then what makes MonaVie stay in business..... It's the scheme it has set forth to lure people in to make those at the top rich. MonaVie is nothing more than a illegal business that will soon be shut down for scamming people. At least you can still have the opportunity to buy the juice at the store.

  • Posted By: wbeggca @ 08/09/2008 1:07:33 AM

    Boy...the "other" guys are really posting their hypes on other products here, that's for sure!

    I don't know if any of the products are going to deliver what they say they will, Monavie, AcaiPlus, and any other company being advertised here.

    I have an issue with the latest message from "the great leader" Dallin Larsen.....and, exactly how much of the money has been given back to the MORE project.....based on the sales they are claiming.....I thought Monavie was about a juice product, not about restoring hope, dignity, faith and belief.....and in what?

    Getting more and more silly...that's for sure!

  • Posted By: gt5323b @ 08/09/2008 12:58:44 AM

    Sign up with MonaVie with our team:
    https://www.monavievo.com/signup/joinus.asp?enrollerid=1198281

    We will be placing people in a straight line that sign up off this site. It's called First mover advantage. Everyone who signs up gets to inherit the efforts of everyone that signs up after them.

    Some people are the ones who make things happen, other people talk about what's happening, and the unfortunate who missed the boat ask, "what happened?"

  • Posted By: GetYourFactsRight @ 08/08/2008 9:15:26 PM

    Oh, forgot one thing IFARAGO, Monarch Health Sciences / MonaVie has actually been around since 2004, they just recently annouced that they are a one billion dollar company and they are also debt free. What took you guys so long?? NSA, 40 years to get to 6 billion, MonaVie, 5 years to get to 1 billion in sales, both debt free, what can I say?

    • Posted By: Report2FTC @ 08/08/2008 11:56:41 PM

      That would be cumlative sales since the start of the company, not annual sales. Your not a billion dollar company yet! I know a lot of companies that say they are debt free, but did they disclose financial earnings before they was shut down or bankrupt. lol .

  • Posted By: MonaVie Loyal @ 08/08/2008 10:47:51 PM

    You critics always talk...but that's all you ever do...Over a million customers with several thousands of people signing up a week or a couple of desk jockeys with nothing better to do than slander a great company full of great people...I'll take my chances with the millions...No one is making "Claims" as you "Claim", people are sharing what the juice has done for them...that's not a claim...it's a testimony. Don't confuse the two. No one is attempting to destroy your living so stop trying to destroy ours...we happen to love the juice that ensures we get all the antioxidants we need for our body to take care of itself. Try being more productive with your time and stop trying to hurt honest, hard working people.

    • Posted By: Report2FTC @ 08/08/2008 11:50:57 PM

      Claims, no is making claims, are you crazy!!!! Did you even read what MonaVie reps are saying not only on this post, but other post on the internet. Just type in MonaVie in Google you will find other blogs with the same reps making claims. I would not doubt that MonaVies compliance Dept. already fired those Sales reps.

      You must be a new rep for MonaVie and don't understand.
      You need to review Dallin Larsen the owner of MonaVie previous leadership skills with Dynamic Essentials. Shut down by the FDA for supporting false claims for treating various diseases like cancer, arthritis and ADD, even after the FDA issued a warning a year prior. Since the company did not comply with the warnings, the company eventually stopped selling the product and its remaining inventory of $2,700,000 was destroyed under FDA supervision. That is not Slander.......... it's a fact!!!!!!! Just check out the websites below.
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      FDA site on Dynamic Essentials
      http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2003/NEW00976.html
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      The problem with MonaVie; it is a pure and simple Pyramid Scheme with a lot of scamless tactics and ranting and raving reps. Just read Newsweeks blog, It will give you websites of scamless tactics and reps making claims
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      DR. Alexander G. Schauss, PhD, FACN who did your clinical study on MonaVie. Criminal??? How bogus is the study now?
      http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-9205625_ITM
      http://www.lysator.liu.se/skeptical/newsletters/Georgia_Skeptic/GS05-05.TXT
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      FTC on Split Pyramids ( Binary Comp Plans) Many MLM companies shut down for using the Binary comp plans!!!
      http://www.ftc.gov/os/comments/businessopprule/522418-12585.pdf .
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      FDA Warning issued to MonaVie and sales reps for making unethical medical claims. Wow, this site shoud shut you up!!!!! FDA is not done with MonaVie yet, after a cyber warning, they keep MonaVie on the Radar. WIth all these reps making medical claims and giving their name, phone number and website out, the FDA has a way to hit your company hard.
      http://www.fda.gov/cder/warn/cyber/2007/UTVokes.pdf
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      For a privately held company, they sure do have a lot of complaints on the Better Business Bureau website! Not slander, it's a fact.......ouch
      http://utah.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=139&bbb=1166&firm=21000953

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