This was a very pro Obama series of videos. Once again Newsweek shows which canidate it is endorsing. So much for unbiased reporting.
The Mind of the South
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Posted By: Heavypiece @ 09/14/2008 10:25:57 AM
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Posted By: b.limpett @ 08/10/2008 1:25:19 PM
Conrack for president!
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Posted By: SIRello @ 08/05/2008 9:45:19 PM
The South is not Georgia or Atlanta, GA. Wish this article had covered more territory an reflected the true diversity of the region. Speaking as though Georgia represents North Carolina is like comparing Pennsylvania and Massachusetts.
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Posted By: Barbara L @ 08/06/2008 10:34:21 PM
I agree with this comment. More of the regional diversity should have been written about. There are so many cultural and geographic conditions that exist in the South. Each state has its unique characteristics. I wish this had been explored more in the article. Can there be a part 2?
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Posted By: Barbara L @ 08/06/2008 10:26:51 PM
I agree with the comment below that states that more of the regional diversity should have been written about. There are so many cultural and geographic conditions that exist in the South. Each state has its unique characteristics. I wish this had been explored more in the article. Can there be a part 2?
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Posted By: SIRello @ 08/05/2008 9:44:55 PM
The South is not Georgia or Atlanta, GA. Wish this article had covered more territory an reflected the true diversity of the region. Speaking as though Georgia represents North Carolina is like comparing Pennsylvania and Massachusetts.
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Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/05/2008 12:35:02 PM
The problem is simple corruption needs to be erradicated beginning with those who have profited for years from corruption. Please look up this individual ---- Nelson Wilmarth Aldrich ---- he was the father in law of Mr. Rockefeller who's family went on to controll the private banks which became the central bank the FED which is a private institution. This individual Nelson came up with the Income Tax and The Central Bank. Follow the money and you will find the corruption behind the problems in society. For 240.00 the Central Bank the Fed can create 1 million dollars then using the IRS they can bilk the public for 1 Million plus interest. Its easy math to see they have the complete control of the US government and even the world. Money is the root of all evil.
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Posted By: GrannyCan @ 08/05/2008 11:45:42 AM
Interesting comment, "Dent Myers is a sick person." No, Dent Myers is honest and forthright in telling what he believes and he has a thriving business. He just has a different point of view, but provides for the curious a shop of "stuff" that has its place in history. Historical revisionists have changed much of what is taught in schools today in regard to the "war of northern aggression." The South as a region of this country is not simplistic, stupid, or easily understood. The majority of those deeply rooted in the south are very decent, lawabiding, hardworking people who by their very nature have to wonder about an outsider's perspective on who and what they are.
I have lived all over the United States from the time I was a child. I still hold fast to my 10+ generational roots in the deep south. It's the basis of who I am. -
Posted By: GrannyCan @ 08/05/2008 11:44:33 AM
Interesting comment, "Dent Myers is a sick person." No, Dent Myers is honest and forthright in telling what he believes and he has a thriving business. He just has a different point of view, but provides for the curious a shop of "stuff" that has its place in history. Historical revisionists have changed much of what is taught in schools today in regard to the "war of northern aggression." The South as a region of this country is not simplistic, stupid, or easily understood. The majority of those deeply rooted in the south are very decent, lawabiding, hardworking people who by their very nature have to wonder about an outsider's perspective on who and what they are.
I have lived all over the United States from the time I was a child. I still hold fast to my 10+ generational roots in the deep south. It's the basis of who I am. -
Posted By: JustAJoe @ 08/05/2008 12:00:26 AM
I contributed to the "Foxfire" series of books about the people who live in the hills of Appalachia. Look them up on Amazon, Mr. Dickey. These people Scotch-Irish and Cherokee people pretty much still lived as the pioneers did, hunting, small farms, building their own houses from trees, building their own furniture,
They were NOT the inbred degenerates your father made a fortune off of by libeling them in "Deliverance". But the truth would not be as titillating and profitable, would it?
I see there are still some family traditions alive and well. Many, most, people in the South have moved on. Isn't it time you did also? Words matter and, like your father, your words hurt real people. Your portrayal is almost as titillating and wrong as your father's was. -
Posted By: winemaster2 @ 08/04/2008 11:56:41 PM
An interesting take and response from a verity of folks and their thinking. Per say ,racism does exist but not in the open form as was inherent before the 60s and after the laws were changed. What is in the hearts and minds of the indocrinated, misled and the gullible is innate as what the hierarchy of the system advocate. Racism is much more systematic and institutional rather then individual. The County Commissioners, Board of Supervisors, the Court System, the DA's and Solicitors Office, the Law and the Legislature all tend to be hard core republicans that belive in and practice the prevresity of inequality and rights only of their kind.
Unfortuantely in the last 8 years since George W. Bush took over, the South in General and particular areas where conservative republicans and their status quo perdominates the trend is to race, ethnic origin, color of skin based.
Atlanta inner city itself is not gun ho conservative republican, but the surrounding countries are. The worst are Cobb, Cherokee, Hall and all further away from Atlanta. Even North Fulton conservative republicans feel threatened by the Atlanta black majority hierarchy. The White Conservative republicans feel that the black Atlanta hierarchy is mismangaing the taxpayers money etc. The trend is just not around Atlanta, but through out the South. Racism is not open as it used to be but rather collective communial, systematic and institutional. -
Posted By: Aussies4ever @ 08/04/2008 11:49:37 PM
I am a third generation Southerner from Florida! I am proud to say I have always been a Democrat and I pray that are next President is one also. The worst thing tha ever happened to the South was becoming Republican!
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Posted By: SIRello @ 08/05/2008 9:58:38 PM
Carolinian here (white male) - I'm with you.
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Posted By: gar65 @ 08/04/2008 10:33:15 PM
I was raised in Texas, spent 20 years as an officer in the Marine Corps, live in California, raised a daughter, who is an honor graduate of UC Berkeley, with my wife who is Japanese, and now I am a 7th grade math teacher. Yes there is racism in our country but I do see things changing with time. I am for any reporting that brings our country together as one nation and does not split us apart again, and again, and again.
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Posted By: Lisser711 @ 08/04/2008 9:47:42 PM
It's not all that surprising that MSN links me to a very uncreative piece of journalism stereotyping the south and the views of southerners on (surprise) racism. One of my greatest disappointments about mankind is the perpetual profiling - separating people into categories and looking down on other "types" of people.
The stereotype that the south is ignorant, racist, and a bunch of gun toting good ole boys that talk funny is just another form of separatism. People have and continue to find something different about themselves from others. They feel right and superior to other people for a plethora of reasons, and dismiss another group because they feel threatened. Will it ever end? No???And bull bleep journalism like this makes that evident.
P.S. As a Kennesaw, Georgia native, I must say that Wildman is not racist. He???s found his found a commercial niche and is profiting off of it like newsweek is this B.S. article. Kennesaw does have an ordinance that every head of the household own and maintain a gun. That ordinance was passed in 1982, and since then the last homicide (committed with a knife) was in 1989, and the last gun homicide was in 1986 involving two men from out of state in a hotel. The crime rate is the lowest in the state.-
Posted By: Aussies4ever @ 08/04/2008 11:59:29 PM
What planet are you from? - Dent Myers is a sick person - if he was not he would not have all the Klan memorabilia in the store. You can be proud of your Southern heritage - as I am-but I do not sell the racist crap he has in his warehouse. Yes I have been there - and will never set foot in there again!
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Posted By: jumpshot @ 08/04/2008 9:46:07 PM
I was born, raised and live in SC. Believe it or not, we don't walk around in confederate grey, and praise Robert E. Lee 24/7. Unfortunately, racism is everywhere and not just the south. It certainly doesn't make me racist if I choose to vote Republican!
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Posted By: jumpshot @ 08/04/2008 9:45:43 PM
I was born, raised and live in SC. Believe it or not, we don't walk around in confederate grey, and praise Robert E. Lee 24/7. Unfortunately, racism is everywhere and not just the south. It certainly doesn't make me racist if I choose to vote Republican.
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Posted By: jumpshot @ 08/04/2008 10:56:09 PM
My point is not to assume I'm automatically racist if I am from the south and don't vote Dem in Nov.
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Posted By: gar65 @ 08/04/2008 10:41:37 PM
No, just comfortable with the past 8 years.
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Posted By: Carolina Blue @ 08/04/2008 11:00:17 PM
Hell if the Dem's had a legit candidate, GW wouldn't be there.
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Posted By: Carolina Blue @ 08/04/2008 10:48:46 PM
I have been so comfortable the last 8 years. If comfort equals the largest terrorist attack on this soil, being in the wrong war, watching our economy go down the crapper, etc.. Let me pull my Lazboy to the window and get really comfortable.
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Posted By: gar65 @ 08/04/2008 11:03:18 PM
I guess that I should have been clearer that I have been totally uncomfortable with the last 8 years and hope that Caroline Blue means that you are going to vote the same as me.
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Posted By: SIRello @ 08/05/2008 9:47:28 PM
I'm with you two...NC Blue!
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Posted By: jumpshot @ 08/04/2008 9:44:08 PM
I was born, raised and live in SC. Believe it or not, we don't walk around in confederate grey, and praise Robert E. Lee 24/7. Unfortunately, racism is everywhere and not just the south. It certainly doesn't make me racist if I choose to vote Republican!
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Posted By: SIRello @ 08/05/2008 9:56:57 PM
Vote Republican doesn't make you a racist but I wonder about what people don't see as so wrong about the past 8 years? Suddenly Congressional Republicans are "heroes" because they want to vote on off-shore drilling. Congressional Republicans controlled Congress for 16 years and the White House for 8 years. They're just now getting around to giving a darn about the price of oil and American dependence on foreign oil?
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Posted By: Bigshoes @ 08/04/2008 8:17:48 PM
Racism are everywhere....but one thing i find out that most of ignorant people, racist are mostly uneducated, poor, and wanna find some solution for their situation. Instead of hating themselves, they turn around and hate those who dont look like them, culturely different than them. But most of American in generals are very generous, understanding how this country going with the right direction toward immigration.
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Posted By: eyoung90 @ 08/04/2008 8:16:15 PM
there is racism and bull *** misunderstanding everywhere in this country east, west, south, north. if you want to find racism and bullshit like that you'll find in berks county pennsylvania. and the civil where was fought for many reasons not just slavery and the only states that were freed from slavery after the civil war was over was just the confederate states that fought against the north. not all the southern states were not confederate and the ones that didnt fight against the north got to keep their slaves. im from the north and the south ain't the only ones that had slaves, the north had them to just not as big or heavy. plus the only real reason why the north didnt have slavery like the south because it would be harder to keep slaves productive and alive in the north because of the harsh weather in the winter and the north didnt didnt have great agricultural benefits like the south.
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Posted By: ekimonat @ 08/04/2008 8:12:33 PM
Hmm...I wonder which candidate will get the author's vote. So much for fair and balanced reporting.
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Posted By: Aussies4ever @ 08/05/2008 12:02:38 AM
Let us hope OBAMA!
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Posted By: ekimonat @ 08/04/2008 8:10:58 PM
Hmm, I wonder which candidate will get this author's vote. So much for fair and balanced reporting.
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Posted By: eyoung90 @ 08/04/2008 8:06:31 PM
racism is everywhere in the south, west, north, and east. if you wqant to see rascim and racial bullshit come to berks county pennsylvania you'll find that *** no problem
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Posted By: JustAJoe @ 08/04/2008 7:27:33 PM
I am a 5th generation white southerner in my 50's. I grew up in Georgia during the Civil Rights movement. What is never said, but true is the Civil Rights movement succeeded, in part, because MANY young people of my generation told our parents the traditions of racism will go to the grave with you, it is ended in this family.
I have now lived in California for 10 years. You could drive through California and find racist, immigrant hating, ignorant people and write the same story, except you would find more extreme Republican/Right Wing kooks in Orange County. "Ronald Regan, - we will rise again". More people here want to jail and deport all immigrants here than in Augusta, Ga where I grew up and still visit.
This is not reporting, this is contributing to a time worn genre. California is liberal, so the people I mentioned are extremist. The South is racist, so the same people there are mainstream. Can I ask you why Atlanta is universally held to be the best place in the country to be black?
Maynard Jackson was the first black Mayor of Atlanta when the new subway and the airport was build, both one of the largest in the nation. He gave many contracts to small minority firms with little experience with such large projects. Everyone thought it would be a disaster and our grandchildren would be paying off the bond money wasted. Both projects came in early and under budget, unheard of in this type of civic project, because those small firms busted their asses doing the biggest job they had ever gotten, not milking the project for what it was worth. This was an eye-opener for many, and the city fell in love with Maynard Jackson, white and black alike. And Andrew Young after him.
Blacks in Atlanta shop in black owned stores, take their children to black doctors and dentist, and show them real role models. Barrack Obama is nothing strange to black Atlanta, he is just another success story of education and hard work. The only problem most whites in Atlanta have is getting these successful blacks to spend some of that money outside the black community.
In my humble opinion, from personal experience, Southerners of my generation knew the ugly face of racism and rejected it. The South changed. I find in California want-to-be racist thrive, because people have never seen the real deal. There is a post-civil rights South that is way ahead of most of the country.
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Posted By: steph valleygirl @ 08/04/2008 4:53:39 PM
I AM HURT AND AFFENDED. I LIVE IN AR AND HAVE ALWAYS CALLED MYSELF A SOUTHERNER. I SEE CONFEDERATE FLAG ON A DAILY BASES. I CHALLANGE ANYONE TO COME THE AR AND SAY WE ARE NOT SOUTHERN. I KNOW PPL THINK WE ARE JUST INBREAD BACKROAD FARMERS, BUT TRUTH BE TOLD. WE ARE SMART AND HONEST PPL. AR IS A BEAUTIFUL STATE. WE ARE THE NATURAL STATE AND FOR A REASON. COME TO AR AND YOU WOULD BE SUPRISED. WE HAVE THE CITY AND THE COUNTRY ALL IN ONE. ONE DAY YOU COULD BE ROCK CLIMBIMG AND LATER THAT NITE YOU WOULD BE ENJOYING A DINNER AND SHOW. WE HAVE GROWN AS A STATE AND I AM PROOUD TO CALL MYSELF AN ARKANSAN
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Posted By: bd1979 @ 08/04/2008 8:33:15 PM
If you really want to dispel stereotypes about Arkansas you might want to check your spelling, punctuation, and grammar.
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Posted By: velotvc15 @ 08/04/2008 3:24:57 PM
I think that a better title for this piece may have been "In Search Of Antiquated Stereotyples". As someone who has lived all of their 38 years in the South, I know that this article is inaccurate and unfair in it representation of Southerns and the culture of the Southeast.
If you want rednecks and racism, then you need to go no further then my mother's hometown of Trenton, New Jersey.-
Posted By: bd1979 @ 08/04/2008 8:19:38 PM
If your hometown is Trenton, NJ please explain how you've spent all of your 38 years in the South?
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Posted By: GrannyCan @ 08/05/2008 11:57:32 AM
It reads,"...MY MOTHER'S HOMETOWN." Velotvc15 lived HER 38 yrs in the south, not her mother.
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Posted By: velotvc15 @ 08/04/2008 3:18:34 PM
Perhaps a better name for this piece would have been "In Search Of Antiquated Stereotypes". As someone who has lived their entire 38 years in the South, I can tell you that this article does not paint an accurate or fair portrait of Southerns or the culture of the Southeast.
If you want racism and rednecks then you need to travel no further then my mother's hometown of Trenton, New Jersey.-
Posted By: SIRello @ 08/05/2008 9:51:19 PM
Try Boston, Mass. if you really want to see racism. Amazing.
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Posted By: bd1979 @ 08/04/2008 8:20:42 PM
If your hometown is Trenton, NJ please explain how you've spent all of your 38 years in the South?
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Posted By: southrncomfrt @ 08/04/2008 2:01:37 PM
i don't believe the vast majority of southerners with ancestral heritage in the south have an issue with moving forward,but 1st we should make sure the past is accurately represented. kentucky voting patterns may well reflect a commonality with the southern states, but to represent as historical fact that kentucky was a part of the south and make civil war references in that assertion,is downright inaccurate!!!
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Posted By: jumpy @ 08/04/2008 1:22:35 PM
WOW! I am so disappointed by the comments from some people who live in southeast region of the US! Why can't people embrace their past without continuing the negative parts that continue to divide our country instead of build us up as a nation?!?!?
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Posted By: jumpy @ 08/04/2008 1:18:53 PM
I am so disappointed with the mindset of some of these comments from people living the southeast US. WOW! Why can't people embrace their past without continuing the negative behaviors into the future?
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Posted By: calypsoman @ 08/04/2008 1:04:26 PM
With some 92-95% of Blacks voting for Obama (dfefies normality) in the primaries ,I wouldn't be surprised if he carries the heavily black southern states in the Presidentuial elections.. Seems to me like they are voting in-block for a BLACK candidate whom they perceive as being the best for Prez else why would 95% of them vote for Obama.
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Posted By: calypsoman @ 08/04/2008 12:49:06 PM
With some 90-95% of Blacks, especially in the heavy-black Southern States, voting for Obama, seems like they are all voting in-block and for-BLACK without much thought and consideration for whom they are voting (as long as he is black). What a mess!
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Posted By: southrncomfrt @ 08/04/2008 12:26:51 PM
my full comment was...no,kentucky is not as much a part of the south...never have been,never will be!!! best you redo your fact-checking through historical records. no self-respecting southerner would claim them as such!!! southerncomfrt,from alabama.
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Posted By: southrncomfrt @ 08/04/2008 12:22:54 PM
no,kentucky is not as much a part of the south...never jave been,never will be. best you re-check your historical references!!! no self-respecting southerner would claim them as such.
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Posted By: southrncomfrt @ 08/04/2008 12:21:33 PM
no,kentucky is not as much a part of the south...never have been ,never will be. best you check your history books!!!
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Posted By: joller @ 08/03/2008 8:29:11 PM
Kentucky is as much part of the south as any other state below the Mason-Dixon Line. In the past presdential elections, Kentucky has always been a focal point in the state that is watched to see how the south will vote. Traditions, culture and history has always given Kentucky their southern heritage. One only has to look at Kentucky after the years following the War Between The States to see the how the people placed ex-Confederates in all government positions. All of the governors well into the 20th century were either Confederate veterans or their sons and grandsons.
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Posted By: joller @ 08/03/2008 8:23:44 PM
Kentucky is as much part of the south as the other states below the Mason-Dixon Line. In the past, Kentucky has been a leading focal state in the south during the presidential elections. Traditions, culture and history has always linked Kentucky as a major state in the south.
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Posted By: eidiva @ 08/03/2008 6:04:28 PM
The south is larger than these four states. Keep in mind that the places in which you reviewed have been intergrated by Northerners for a quite a long-time, as they represent the two busiest highways in the South, I-16; 1-75; and I-95. Until you travel into the heart of Dixie, West of Nashville, into Alabama, MS, LA, and ARK, you will miss the 'traditional South'. We have grown, as an African American, I am proud and pained of my Southern roots, but if we are anything, we are honest people. Sometimes too honest for all you socialites from the North, but honest still the same.
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Posted By: SIRello @ 08/05/2008 9:49:13 PM
Actually he seems to have visited just one state...Georgia an projected the notion that the rest of us are somehow like Georgians. Lord help us!
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