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  • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 08/05/2008 3:21:52 PM

    The moment I saw those two women on the Newsweek article I had to read it. That pic is priceless. They both look they're saying H E L L N A W!!!!! Too funny.

  • Posted By: TruthandConsequence @ 08/05/2008 2:45:58 AM

    I sure do wish Obama's sorry mug did not pop up like Joe Stalin invading my every reading space. Is he telling me God is watching or are we getting little subliminal instructions to rat on our parents?

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/05/2008 2:59:08 PM

      Obama's "sorry mug" popping up everywhere is campaigning, you know the things people do when they want to be elected for public office.

  • Posted By: ajaxtheleast @ 08/05/2008 2:35:53 PM

    But on a more stupid yankee Democrat reaction: "The elder son ran over the beer cans with a car to better flatten them for selling as scrap.",,,unlike his southern Republican father who flattened them on his head.
    ,,C'mon you've run up against things that you just cant resist.,,,right?

  • Posted By: Newsweekbhg @ 08/05/2008 1:57:49 PM

    "Many people in the area thought they knew the names of the culprits, at least four of whom are still alive, according to Howard. But "turning them in would be like turning in the fathers of the county," said Brian Arrington, managing editor of the local Walton Tribune. "If you walk around, the names of the streets are the names of some of the suspects."

    WHY DO American Blacks Join the army?? Why would you want your children to fight for these animals. ------------Say no to the US ARMY------

  • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 08/05/2008 1:45:14 PM

    Fortunately for the good of the American people and the good of our great country, there will be just as many voting "not McCain" as there will be voting "not Obama". We will see how it all turns out. God Bless America if another corrupt republican gets in.

  • Posted By: purplebandana @ 08/05/2008 1:26:29 PM

    I live part time in Tennessee, Mr. BHO is going to loose the south in 1980/1984 style, because he is black and because of the people he has associated with.

  • Posted By: Jackerella @ 08/05/2008 1:10:26 PM

    I can honestly say one thing !! Obama managed to waste some of the Millions of Campaign money by advertising along with this article and the way most Southerners feel about him. (LOL)

  • Posted By: OnlyCureJGK @ 08/05/2008 12:44:58 PM

    The problem is simple corruption needs to be stopped beginning with those who have profited for years from corruption. Please look up this individual ---- Nelson Wilmarth Aldrich ---- he was the father in law of Mr. Rockefeller who's family went on to controll the private banks which became the central bank the FED which is a private institution. This individual Nelson came up with the Income Tax and The Central Bank. Follow the money and you will find the corruption behind the problems in society. For 240.00 the Central Bank the Fed can create 1 million dollars then using the IRS they can bilk the public for 1 Million plus interest. Its easy math to see they have the complete control of the US government and even the world. Money is the root of all evil.

  • Posted By: wash1516 @ 08/04/2008 2:00:33 PM

    WELL, WELL PEOPLE STILL DOES NOT GET IT. PEOPLE NEED TO GROW UP AND STOP HATIN ON THE MAN BECAUSE HE WANTS WHAT IS BEST FOR AMERICA JUAST LIKE PRESIDENT BUSH WANTED. ANYHOW, LETS SHOW THE WORLD WHAT AMERICA IS TRULY ABOUT AND WHAT THE CONSTITUTION REALLY STANDS FOR. AGAIN LEAVE THIS MAN ALONE.

    • Posted By: PutTheLotionInTheBasket @ 08/04/2008 2:25:45 PM

      "STOP HATIN ON THE MAN BECAUSE HE WANTS WHAT IS BEST FOR AMERICA "

      He's the worst thing there is for America. If he's elected America will look just like, and function just like Haiti in four years.

      • Posted By: sparky716 @ 08/04/2008 2:55:29 PM

        If Sidney McCain is elected America will look like Germany in the 30's

        • Posted By: lhwilk0 @ 08/04/2008 11:29:33 PM

          I'd much rather have a prosperous pre-war Germany of the 1930s than a cesspool like Haiti!

          • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 12:42:01 PM

            Are you backward enough to think we could allow the US to go that way? Sounds like paranoia to me--either that or YOU'RE AN UNPATRIOTIC COMMUNIST!

      • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/04/2008 3:09:15 PM

        Anything to back that up?

  • Posted By: Jokar1030 @ 08/05/2008 12:39:04 PM

    As a transplant to the south from Chicago I see that there has been a great deal of change in the south as your article points out but there is still widespread fear of change. It's ok for a manager as poor and as inarticualte as President Bush to avidly cater to to the christian right, start a war based on a lie and become the biggest debtor in american history with the lowest public confidence levels. I'm remissed at the lack of growth we have atained as a country. Just as your article expressed true southerner do not like being told what to do probably because a great deal of the wealth amassed was derived off the backs of slaves and through generational blessings. It's obvious that the republican party's approach to the south is that it's a given (considering the wide spread bumpers and campaign visits) despite how poorly the candidate on reocrd performs. It's really a shame to hear just how much things have changed and unfortunately how much things have stayed the same.

  • Posted By: derik @ 08/05/2008 12:23:41 PM

    This is an amazing paper on the South. I myself came to the South twenty plus years ago from California and thirty three years ago from Ceylon. There are many people in the South who are exactly what you wrote about. There are also many people who do not reflect what you wrote about. Likewise, there are many people from the North who have assimilated into one or the other groups. I myself drank cool aid for many years and now wonder how strange life is for me. It does appear that I will always be here.

  • Posted By: kevinbgoode @ 08/05/2008 2:32:18 AM

    "Then, a few weeks ago, a white supporter of his had hung up a noose near a road that leads into a neighborhood that's mostly black."

    Like hanging is still legal in Georgia? You don't string up a noose on your property and announce you are gonna lynch the next perrson who commits a theft - not unless you want to be dragged into court yourself.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/05/2008 11:35:30 AM

      Tacky... Why are Americans like yourself bothering to comment or defend this action? It was grotesque. Scary and intimidating... is that how you like it? Tacky, tacky.... Southern bumpkins.

    • Posted By: aurafield @ 08/05/2008 5:05:43 AM

      I live just a few minutes from the county where this took place. It was a horrific display of racism and purposely dredging up fears of past generations. Luckily, the noose was hoisted on public property, so it was cut down. Otherwise, sadly, it would have been protected under freedom of speech, the most blatant abuse of such a great American blessing.

  • Posted By: The Shortender @ 08/05/2008 2:36:04 AM

    This writer has a history of writing the leftist point of view wehther from Bosnia (muslim) Lybia,Iraq other areas of leftist discontent. To bad he wasn't sable to write about the lefist anarchists of the Woodrow Wilson era. The Bombers that set off bombs in several american cities. one was set off accross from FDR's house trying to kill Wilsons Attorney General but this bomb went off early and killed the bomber. The notes that were left at all bombings of that page in history said"War,Class warand you were the first to wage it under the cover of the powerful instutions you call order, in the darkness of your laws. There will have to be bloodshed;we will not dodge;there will have to be murderwe will kill, because it is necessary;the will be destruction; we will destroy to rid the world of your tyrannical institutions." Wall street was bombed Killing 38 and woundingseveral hundred. under the Sedation act of 1918 arround 10,000. were jailed and hundreds of Illegals were deported. Funny "the more things change the more they stay the same. by the way the murder rate in Ill. since 9/11 is is more lives lost than we have lost in Iraq. God bress our Pres. as he is the first pres. to meet the terrorist threat to this country in 88 years except Reagan under who we list around 500 military and civilians before he finally fired missiles in to a tent in Lybia. This is basically why the Far Far Left hate fthe pres so much.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/05/2008 11:33:15 AM

      You misspelled LIBYA. I used to live there. You should take time to proof your postings. It's hard to read when there are so many typos....

  • Posted By: dandjcook @ 08/05/2008 8:42:04 AM

    I am a 9th generation Southener. My niece and nephew and their families make the 10th and 11th. History was one of my majors in college,so I LOVE the subject. However, we don't wallow in it. At family gatherings we discuss current topics and how it will impact the next generation (# 11). Not them as Southerners or Whites or as genders, but as people. The world is now too small to indulge such past divisions. The big topic right now is whether they should learn Japanese or a Middle Eastern language if we want them to succeed in business.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/05/2008 11:27:48 AM

      GREAT POST!!! Spanish is also good; maybe Chinese would be the language to study in the future...?

  • Posted By: neda @ 08/05/2008 2:08:15 AM

    I grew up in the South, left in early adulthood, briefly returned and likely fought a white man because he asserted his white supremacy. I traveled abroad as a military family and didn't detect racism. When abroad, your military members are your family. When we arrived in Virginia in the early 90s, we detected racism, not so overt, and I personally experienced it. At no time can I talk about that experience without being brought to tears. That is what racism does to you. Still nothing prepared me for the recent move mere miles away from Ford Moore's Bridge in Monroe in Georgia and the outward acts of racism. I'll never adjust to statements like "this is the way things are done down here, or "we do things different down here" or how acquiescence others are to these statements along with an adoption of the slave man mentality. I failed my children to a certain extent in my inability to adequately warn them of the subtlety of racism. Now faced overtly with, it is difficulty for them to maneuver through it. Is racism generational? My children almost escaped it. Perhaps their children can. As for me, I bear the battle wounds and the scars. I say all the time that I'm not racist. Sometime, perhaps, I make racist comments. There is a difference between the two.

    I come from a stock of family like all families has it trials and tribulations. We have managed to carve and continue to forge a place for us in this country. I grew up in a time when we worked and work hard to overcome and achieve. Don't get me wrong, I believe at some point everybody may need a temporary handout, certainly not an eternal one. I don't believe we looked for an eternal handout and nor did we felt we deserved one. This is where I mince with obama. He often talks about how he worked to overcome and achieve an encouragement to all they can too. However, I kind of get the feeling Obama means to hold my people hostage. I certainly don't feel he has added real value to the community. Like other, though, he intends to ride the back of my people to the white house. After which, he will offer nothing to us but the same ole meager handouts that continue to binds us. It is sad that we are willing to be sacrificed to see a black man elected as president.

    My husband doesn't like Obama but he says he won't cross party lines and will vote for him. Of course, his vote will have nothing to do with a black vote. As for me, there are certain core values which I hold every body accountable that I see lacking in Obama. I would love to see Obama stand for at least one thing and not promise me the World.

    For some of us, race as nothing to do with it. We look at the overall value of the candidate that will be working for us. Obama hasn???t done anything to earn or deserve my vote.

    Dickey's story certainly brough back memories. Of course, racism will play a part in this election ad I didn't need his story to remind me of that.

    • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 08/05/2008 11:00:27 AM

      I don't understand your stance. At what point has Obama made you doubt anything he stands for? And how has McCain, through all his negative campaigning, come up with a more influential message?

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/05/2008 10:28:13 AM

      I don't understand how you consider yourself not racist, but consistently use the term "my people." What people exactly are those?
      Obama actually has done quite a bit of good in the communities he has served, I encourage you to research him more thoroughly. I wholeheartedly agree with his statements that young minorities need to embrace education and shun violence, drugs, and teen pregnancy. I don't see how anyone could argue with those statements.
      Encouraging speeches may be just words--but words can inspire the masses to make a change. Were MLKs speeches just words? FDRs speeches of strength and courage during WWII just words? Sure, but those words inspired Americans to stay strong and make a difference. People are severely underestimating the power of words. Hitler's speeches united a country in hate, whereas Churchill's united a country to defeat evil--just words, yes, but powerful at the same time.

    • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 4:46:09 AM

      Very thought out post and well written. Thanks for sharing a bit of actual and true insight.

      All and all, I'd still rather take a chance for something good (even if it seems to good to be promised) rather than similar lies and discrepencies that I fear from another candidate that is really starting to sink to Rove-like tactics. I fear hwhat's next? A Bush-like presidency?

  • Posted By: ojibwa @ 08/05/2008 5:46:17 AM

    America needs to go beyond the "white/black-black/white" paradigm. Only then will there be any true space for real development.

    • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 08/05/2008 10:43:18 AM

      That's a true statement. However, I believe that this election will either coalesce the reality of believing in true diversity (if Obama wins or he loses) or it will widen the chasm of race relations. From what I have been witnessing from both candidates is a see saw of he said, he said and moving away from true dialogue to solve the problem of recession type economies, energy concerns and war on terror. There needs to be a dialogue instead of an argument. We are wise enough to know the difference between the two and the message of Unity has taken a backseat to bickering between all parties. 7 years ago the Twin towers fell and we haven't even captured the culprits that orchestrated this event. That's one of the discussions that need to be taking place along with how we pay our utilities, insurance, mortgage, credit cards and so and so forth. I know I am going to have to pay taxes. That is something that I don't even think about on a regular basis. I don't take stock in polls, biased media coverage nor anything else until the run up to the actual voting day. Everyone, including the media, needs to take a deep breath and relax.

  • Posted By: cuppa jo @ 08/05/2008 7:31:31 AM

    Obama will not win the south because he is viewed as a slickster (i wonder if someone will think that is a racial code word). It seems as if the Obama, his supporters, and a majority of the press are grasping at straws to find anything McCain does as racist. This is yet another reason Obama will not win. People are sick of this race-baiting. Period!

  • Posted By: Funrunners @ 08/05/2008 1:10:00 AM

    It is in a bit of amazment that I read this article. The point is that the southerns are worried because our country has gotten to the point that a statesman that cares , has no chance to be president, and a freshman congressman that makes a million dollers a month gives me concern, YEAH right the books, well WHO IS BUYING UM. And I honestlly believe that Mccain is honorable, and has given far past the required. And I think he will do a good job as president.BUt if you ' re going to tell me that thisis the best this country has to offer I will laugh in your face. The truth is we have barred the real champions that would step forward by the low class format of politics in theis country. AND I will also say, that everyone wants to blame G W Bush for everything that has gone wrong since Christ was a child, People want to sing the praise of Clinton who did not have the class to be president, but he could play a sax . So he won and bet as good a man as has ever been President. YOU AND I , are the ones to blame, we are voting for the cute guy. or worse the one that told us to vote for him the most. We do not do 10 min work toi find out for oursleves who is the right person.. And we will all be as happy as clams as we follow over the cliff to the land of no return, and will look at each other and say, well how did this happen.It must be your fault, www.FunrunnersNews.com is coming

    • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 5:26:42 AM

      Funrunners--the difference is that one president made the country rich and prosperous and liked internationally, placing us on the path to a better life for Americans, while the next president did pretty much the exact the opposite.

  • Posted By: bernsteinjerome @ 08/05/2008 2:00:32 AM

    once a redneck always a redneck - you can educate them, etc....but a southern bigot is still a southern bigot and they procreate other bigots. I think it's genetic - but a northerner's feeling that southerners are just stupid is borne out by people who say Obama is a Muslim - because "he must be." Only a stupid southerner would think/say that. There is nothing except North Carolina banking that the South contributes to the country - other than abject embarrassment. We should have let then secede. Morons. What did the one guy say? George Bush was his hero! I rest my case.

    • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 08/05/2008 2:12:57 AM

      OH YES... Northern moral superiority coming from someone who doesn't know their own history.

      Abraham Lincoln clearly opposed racial equality on many occasions, such as during the August 21, 1858, debate in Ottawa, Illinois with Stephan Douglas, where he said: "I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races.... I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position."

      Abraham Lincoln fully intended to repatriate freed slaves back to Africa, but unfortunately was assassinated before he could rectify the situation. As a result we have had 240 years of BULLCRAP.

      Anyway, my point is, the victor writes the history, and clearly you're deriving some pride in yourself based on a popular account of the civil war and why it was fought. I bet you didn't know that there were slaves in the state of Delware when the civil war began. Square that away with your northern morality.

      • Posted By: bernsteinjerome @ 08/05/2008 2:20:41 AM

        ....and who assassinated him? A southern white. I rest my case

        • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 08/05/2008 2:28:14 AM

          John Wilkes Booth wasn't thinking ahead. Its funny how YOU can express a stereotype of all white southerners as MORONS and somehow think you're above bigotry, but I guess that "stein" in your name gives you the moral authority to tell white people how to think about race, something I've clued into over the years. Now whose stereotype is worse, mine or yours?

          • Posted By: stephenprestwood @ 08/05/2008 2:49:20 AM

            LOL. You two a pretty entertaining. But, I really don't blame the rest of the country for being so frustrated with the South. I'm frustrated with the South and I'm a native born son. And it is just chock-full of ignorant assess and bigots. There are more mean, spiteful people in the South per square mile than anywhere else in the world... except maybe Serbia. Of course they lost a war and committed crimes against humanity as well. Anyway, the South is subsidized by states like New York and California who have to give up their tax dollars and then live with a bunch of dumbasses who elect people like George Bush. It's a raw deal for them, really. Lucky for the South the rest of the country hasn't seceded!

            Hah, bet you didn't know Delaware is sometimes called a Southern state! The Mason-Dixon line forms the border between Maryland and Pennsylvania. It was just not possible for either Maryland or Delaware (both slave states) to secede even if they had wanted to... There was that issue of the nation's capital city and a whole lot of Union soldiers being in Washington, DC.

            • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 08/05/2008 4:18:09 AM

              I think it would be a great thing personally if California and New York DID secede. We would all be freer, and experience a greater level of democracy, our votes would matter more, if there were in fact 50 sovereign states than what we have now under one imperialist umbrella. We support self-determination for peoples all around the globe, but somehow that doesn't apply to Texans, Alaskans, Cascadians, Californians, Montanans, Vermonters and those dreaded Southerners - all of which have their own various secessionist movements. If New York and California did secede however, I just have to wonder who would grow your food and transport your products from coast to coast, since all those rednecks who actually grow the crops and drive the trucks would technically be foreigners at that point. :D

              The Southern man in reality is just a whipping boy for high-minded northerners who want to attribute some positive quality to themselves by group association, from some event in history to which they were not a part. This group mentality is itself the root of racism. To assign a negative characteristic to a group based on their geography is just as bigoted and backward as doing so based on color. In that sense, I think we can conclude that bernsteinjerome, for example, is just a bigot of a different stripe. If we wanted to we could go back a few more generations to some time in which we were all British, but this is unhelpful to people like Jerome who want to organize individuals into classes which he can deem "morons".

              • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 5:08:45 AM

                The midwest grows and transports a huge portion of the nation's food. Hence, 'heartland'.

          • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 5:06:29 AM

            I think the crudeness of some of bernstein's comments are from a very tangible 'backlash' non-southerners are receiving. There was a time when the loudest talk was from that part of the country (presently as well, actually) that anything less than obedience was unpatriotic and that all of the rest of the country was filled with 'uppity' people who 'thought they were smarter than anyone else'. In turn, the rest of the country is giving the bird right back to the south.

          • Posted By: bernsteinjerome @ 08/05/2008 2:47:37 AM

            so the "stein" in my name must mean I'm one of them JEWS. And you really think you are not a bigot? Wow.

            • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 08/05/2008 4:00:35 AM

              Never said that. Its just that white guilt does not function as a control mechanism in my regard. I was just putting an X in your square for inattentive readers, while underscoring your willingness to paint all southerners with the same brush and call them "morons".

          • Posted By: bernsteinjerome @ 08/05/2008 2:49:00 AM

            Enter Your Comment: yours!

  • Posted By: Gwiz @ 08/04/2008 9:58:50 PM

    IT'S SAD TO SEE THAT SOME AMERICANS ARE SO AFRAID TO ELECT A BLACK PRESIDENT !!! ANYONE OUT THERE THINK OF THE LONG RUN? WHAT WILL THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS WILL BE WITH MCCAIN!!!!

    JOB LOST, GAS PRICE, MORTGAGE CRISIS, HEALTHCARE.... WHY ARE WE SO BLIND TO ADMIT THAT MCCAIN IS BAD FOR THE COUNTRY. WAKE UP PEOPLE STOP BEING RACIST AND BAIS!!!!!

    • Posted By: Mr.ChitownKid @ 08/05/2008 3:35:54 AM

      Hating America is not racist. Taxing the "Rich" is not change. Pandering to the poor is not new. Flip-flopping to be on every side is Kerry again. John will fight Radicals.Appoint sane Justices.Preserve the Union. Don't ask for more.

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