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  • Posted By: Cssndra @ 08/04/2008 1:43:57 PM

    Newsweek Editorial Staff ???

    I find myself of being in the unique position of being rather embarrassed, on your behalf, that such a bad journalism has made it into distribution and is even now being read by millions across the globe. As you can see from the people who chose to post on the comment board, opinions range widely on the topic, but by and large most people think that you greenlit a horribly written piece, one designed merely to inflame the hearts and minds of readers not from the area ??? to what end, no one knows. Interestingly, the conversations we have since had have led us down several paths, into what is truly the truth about Obama (the truth these days is sadly subjective; after all, we only know what you leaders of the industry, you darlings of the media let us know, or what these purported great men tell us themselves, and we do have only your word to go on) to the economic reasons that led to secession, to the current state of racial politics in the nation, and lastly (and I think this might be everyone???s favorite) insulting the author???s general bad taste and condescending tone.

    So I am sending my own invitation, and I invite my fellow posters to do the same.

    Interview us. Your readers. The people you just alienated. You have a means to contact all of us. Next week, as your feature story, why don???t you interview your readers and publish our feedback ??? not just in the online magazine, but a real feature article in print. All races, political parties, educational levels, sexes, and backgrounds seem to be well represented across the comments board ??? so take a sample, and dedicate an article to us. Call us on the phone. Talk to us. Give us a voice.

    Otherwise, I???ll just keep reading the Economist.

    • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 08/06/2008 5:16:03 AM

      People are 'interviewed' - it's called polling.

    • Posted By: Cssndra @ 08/04/2008 1:57:49 PM

      I hate it when I copy and paste from another program and it messes things up.

      If you haven't figured it out, most of the ?? are 's. And it should say "such a bad PIECE".

      Don't give me too much crap.

    • Posted By: Jackerella @ 08/04/2008 1:55:53 PM

      Very well Put !! Sad thing is, it will never happen. I'm willing, and I'm sure alot of other readers are 2.

    • Posted By: lhwilk0 @ 08/04/2008 1:51:24 PM

      I'm in!

  • Posted By: czbz @ 08/04/2008 4:37:29 PM

    Mr. Dickey wrote a great article that is balanced and fair. For my part, it is not that I don't want to vote for a black man; I just want to vote for someone more conservative than Barack Obama. I wish that this had been a vote between Barack Obama and Colin Powell. That way, we'd have a real vote on issues and the color barrier would be broken regardless of who won.

    • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 08/06/2008 5:05:56 AM

      Colin Powell made a fool of himself at the UN with his dog and pony show about Iraq's non-existent weapons of mass destruction. Barack Obama would not have used such poor judgment.

    • Posted By: ixmarcusd @ 08/04/2008 5:13:09 PM

      Well said.

  • Posted By: broknows @ 08/04/2008 11:33:10 PM

    I'm from the south and we have a saying here: If you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps has been hit. Mr.. Dickey's words seem to have struck a few of us.

    How do you know you're dealing with a racist? The premise of their view only holds up when you suspend the fact that racism still exists.

    Mr.. Obama was busy inspiring millions both in the US and abroad while Mr. McCain was busy developing a strategy to hide the fact he doesn't read well. What if those facts were reversed? Harriet Christian would have been right.

    Mr. Obama's cup will always be half empty in the south. Like a recipe handed down through generations it (pessimism towards blacks) is just the way we've been taught to see things. We will hate Mr. Obama no matter what he does. All we have left is to agree on how to justify it...and that's where southern talk radio, email and "private" conversations come in. The comments are, point for point, taken from southern talk radio where there is no standard to be accurate or fair. Points that have been debunked are repeated.

    Racism: The South's Great Inside Joke. It works using the same mechanisms.

    • Posted By: anewstartinlife @ 08/04/2008 11:58:42 PM

      You can say all day long you are from the South, but boy you ain't no Southerner. You are a modern day carpet bagger just like Hillary Clinton and Mr. Obama. If Mr. Obama gets elected you mind as well open up your pocket book and let him have all the money in it, cause he's going to take it no matter if you like it or not. Say good bye to your hard earned dollars, cause it's going to go to every woman who doesn't have a husband to pay for every baby that has a different daddy. Call it rasict or not the facts are the facts. Sixty percent children born without outside of wedlock equals the return of welfare. Doesn't matter if they are white, black or brown welfare is on it's way back into our pocketbooks. So vote for Obama and see what kind of change you get. Change for Change ain't always a good thing, just look at Illinois and what Mr. Obama did when he was a state senator. That state is about bankrupt and it's been runned by the Democrats forever. That's what the country is going to look like when Mr. Obama gets to be President. God help up all!!!!

      • Posted By: bernsteinjerome @ 08/05/2008 2:38:27 AM

        Enter Your Comment: let's see.... after 8 years of George Bush gasoline is almost $5....and you think Obama will take your money! Yes...let's just stay on our present course and ride this recession - 'cause as we all know Obama will ruin the economy

        • Posted By: Mr.ChitownKid @ 08/05/2008 3:16:46 AM

          He will bribe you with $500, taken from those evil makers of gasoline.Socilism goof.

          • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 08/06/2008 4:54:24 AM

            Idiotic comment.

  • Posted By: brettsvette @ 08/04/2008 11:48:10 PM

    Idiot liberal journalists don't speak for any true southerner. Shut the hell up and get the hell out of our business.

    • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 08/06/2008 4:53:17 AM

      It's the United States of America. Got 'er don in 1867. Time to drop the 'true southerner' schtick.

  • Posted By: grandmamary @ 08/05/2008 12:11:51 AM

    I think that people from all walks of life will realize eventually that Obama is a very fine and dignified man and that all he wants is a change in the way this country has been run down in the last ten or so years. He wants to try and straighten out the economy and give people some hope again so9 we can become the great nation we once were. I hope he gets the votes he needs from the north and the south so he can prove himself.

    • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 08/06/2008 4:46:08 AM

      Beautifully written.

    • Posted By: WhiteBuffalo @ 08/05/2008 12:38:44 AM


      I know you don't know Baracksters background. But after all, why is that important, you want change. Have you thought that "change could be "chump" change

  • Posted By: gwens11 @ 08/05/2008 11:54:15 PM

    Does anyone know the location of the plantation photo on the cover of the August 8th issue?

    • Posted By: Kingcreole @ 08/06/2008 4:23:43 AM

      It's a little far off to see clearly but I believe that is Oak Alley Plantation. It is located on the Mississippi River between New Orleans and Baton Rouge. There is a web site www.Oakalleyplantation.com or you can just run images on Google/MSN of Oak Alley Plantation. I think that is the one in the photo. Hope this helps.

  • Posted By: doc2008 @ 08/06/2008 1:05:35 AM

    Dickey seems to say if you are white, from the south, and not voting for Obama, then you must be racist. I take great offense to the idea that Southerners vote by race, not other factors such as party affiliation or individual ideals such as education, healthcare, war, oil, or nearly a thousand other issues not related to race.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/06/2008 3:00:44 AM


      Worth reading: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/11/the_white_guilt.html

  • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 4:41:54 AM

    Did you know that the Department of Energy says that drilling for offshore oil would not yield results for a decade and most likely would not have a noticeable effect on oil prices for another 10 years?

    That's 20 years without efficacy from that. I can't vote for John McCain with how he has thrown out his values for being a straight talker and now lies and takes from special interests like Bush and others. I would rather go with someone who has not been proven a liar and non 'straight-talker', and has a chance to live up to TRUE words. It's simple.

    • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 08/05/2008 4:53:40 AM

      I think the best route for America is to disabuse ourselves of the process and vote for NEITHER come November. I'm not going to act as an enabler for two candidates I patently disagree with respect to this war, open borders, amnesty, and foreign interventionism in general. We have a mandate from both candidates to learn Spanish and shut the F up while they figure out how to prop up the banks and pass that debt on to our grandchildren. No one understands the mathematics of the problem; they've got us by the balls, and its exactly what we deserve. We are apathetic, uneducated cheerleaders for a system we can't comprehend. Go U.S.A.

      • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 08/05/2008 8:15:40 AM

        I disagree. You just stated you were apethetic and uneducated. If you want to know more, then look into it. But we need to vote or we pretty much turn it over to people that could care less about the rights of the people. Everyone is not the same. There are a few individuals that would do good for mankind. But this whole concept that the U.S is the only place on the planet is complete baloney. We need to recognize this is a worldwide issue and that people are entitled to a nice life (it doesn't have to be perfect but it doesn't have to be miserable either). And if we view elected officials as the opposite of what they state then we've turned the world over to the corrupt because we've already judged them before we've given them the chance. I'm straight up Democrat but I have listened to John McCain just as I listened to Bush's pitch 4 and 8 years ago. My ear is to ground trying to figure out what the sounds are and what my judgment should be. My judgment, as far as I can tell, has been sound since I cast my vote but lost and have had to deal with the elected officials we have had and currently have. Are they perfect? No. But do we need them? The bible and history has told me yes. I listen to what they (candidates) have to say and research where they are at (thanks to the power of the internet) and have made up my mind thus far on Obama based on his decision to show his outline on initiatives. I have only seen mudslinging by the McCain campaign and suggestions to blow up foreign countries. We've seen enough mudslinging and enough war to last my lifetime, my children's lifetimes and even their childrens' lifetimes. Research and educate yourself on the topics and make a choice and maybe you'll appreciate how everything operates a little more.

        • Posted By: Davole @ 08/05/2008 10:04:42 AM

          Cloudosmoke -

          Although you and I support different party platforms, I do agree with much (not all) of your comments, especially your last sentence - "Research and educate yourself on the topics and make a choice and maybe you'll appreciate how everything operates a little more."

          Keep up the good work!

          • Posted By: raddave @ 08/05/2008 2:54:05 PM

            Davole, as a canadian citizen, you cannot really support any party platform in the U.S.

            • Posted By: Davole @ 08/06/2008 12:58:13 AM

              raddave -

              Correction - as a Canadian, I CAN support the Republicab party platform.

              I just can't, or rather won't, vote in accordance with my support in your US election.

              Do you understand the difference?

              • Posted By: Davole @ 08/06/2008 1:06:00 AM

                raddave -

                Sorry - that was a typo error.
                "Republicab" should have read "Republican" - the letters "b" & "n" are adjacent to each other on my keyboard!

          • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 08/05/2008 10:32:59 AM

            Thanks D. Same here!!!

      • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 5:00:32 AM

        All true, but for once this nation is waking up (albeit slightly) from its traditional apathy.

        I still have to vote for the least of all evils in the end. I just can't risk another 'anything-like-Bush' in office, as I fear the repercussions would be quite noticeable in my lifetime--not because I'm socialist or need a handout, but because the tone of the world has become so backward in the last 8 years.

        • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 08/05/2008 11:06:27 AM

          Which candidate for POTUS is another "anything-like-Bush"?
          Obama started his campaign using the buzz words, "I am a uniter. I work across the aisle." Bush platform 2000. Now he has picked up Bush's State of The Union Address "America's addiction to oil". He (and the Democratic leadership) is a "My way or the highway" person - just like GWB.

          Since Obama is related to BOTH Dick Cheney and George W Bush, perhaps his personality is a family trait and more closely to them than is McCain's.

          • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/05/2008 4:34:59 PM

            wow i don't think i've ever heard that comparison. oh i know why, it doesn't make any sense

          • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 12:46:18 PM

            The only group that has a 'my way or the highway mentality' has been republicans over the last 8 years. It's ironic that you have been brainwashed to believe the opposite.

          • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/05/2008 12:01:22 PM

            I don't understand how you think Obama is a 'my way or the highway' type of person, when all of his speeches encourage unity, education, and peace. We ARE a nation addicted to oil--however, Obama sees that in a negative light whereas Bushy laughed gleefully all the way to the bank.

    • Posted By: Davole @ 08/05/2008 9:56:33 AM

      rapidron -

      Yes, I agree, yours is a very SIMPLE viewpoint!

      • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 12:44:35 PM

        What a great comment. Care to elaborate? Or are you just angrily shaking your fist without any real thoughts to share?

        • Posted By: Davole @ 08/06/2008 12:51:43 AM

          rapidron -

          No anger whatsoever - anger is the obamabot propensity!

    • Posted By: Jill from Florida @ 08/05/2008 10:54:50 AM

      Wouldn't it be nice to have a job building the oil rigs that would last for the 8-9 years before it starts producing. Bet it would pay decent money.

      Think of all the money workers could make with all the new and different fields opened up with the entire gamut of new energy solutions. From putting up wind generators, building power grids, refitting buildings with carbonless emission controls (including the US Capitol), building oil rigs offshore - not in the hurricane alley (Gulf of Mexico), building refineries, building nuclear energy plants. Our economy might even rise to the point that only one parent would need to work to support their family. Manufacturing could be re-introduced to our economy. High school kids could get good paying jobs and get off drugs.

      I digress. The extremist Democrats would rather NOT have any manufacturing within the US borders, not allow any oil drilling that is NOT in the Deep South and in Hurricane Alley, not have a strong middle class, not have any business (other than their lobbyists) prosper, rather have kids and adults on drugs than realize what damage they have done to our country.

      • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 08/05/2008 4:20:08 PM

        mam i'm as radical left as it gets, that second paragraph rang soooo dear to me, then you had to digress and tout some nonsense

      • Posted By: bluebloodedLV @ 08/05/2008 1:52:52 PM

        To say the Democrats don't want a middle class is one of the most uninformed ignorant things I have ever heard said or seen written. You must know nothing about the Democratic party platform. If you agree with what you said Democrats want/don't want, then you are really a Democrat. It's the republican party that is squeezing and destroying the middle class as we speak. By supporting Corporate welfare and big oil with HUGE tax breaks. If you want a middle class, vote Obama.

      • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 12:32:26 PM

        Nice absolutes and lack of factual basis. How many jobs do you think this would create, and how much for the total economy do you think this would support?

        I could say the same that moving toward alternative energy and building, constructing and maintaining a new infrastructure for energy would probably create a lot of jobs. Or would you rather NOT have new jobs in manufacturing and service in the US? Are you a communist? Lol, laughable post, try again.

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/05/2008 11:30:31 AM

        Bushes are involved in profiteering from drugs, it's not the Dems, neo or not.

        And heres the latest about our fearless leader: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26030573/

        Oil production is a huge capital investment that does take years to ramp up. Oil is not going to be our main staple in decades to come - this is the beginning of the end of the Oil Era - supply and demand issues make it imperative that we wean ourselves OFF OF OIL and the sooner the better. Jill is right - more options in energy require more jobs and a growth spurt in our economy. Diversification is good for our future.

        OBAMA '08!

    • Posted By: dfingles @ 08/05/2008 10:05:26 AM

      Drilling now will have a significant impact on oil futures, which drives up the price of gas today. The market sees the reluctance to drill as an indicator of an accelerating "need", which translates into higher prices for something that will become more scarce. Simply put, we have to start drilling now, today, to have any chance at stabilizing current prices of oil and reducing the acceleration of pricing of oil in the outlying years until newer, renewable sources of energy can take us off the oil standard. The United States just doesn't have an energy infrastructure built, designed, or even proposed to handle the loads from wind or solar or tide, or any form of renewable energy. We need to maximize all our energy resources, including massive investments in renewable energy just to keep up with the increase in demand for power.
      Secondly, why not pay ourselves until we have renewable energy? Why should we continue to pay hundreds of billions of dollars to other nations (such as Canada and Venezuela) when we could be generating tens of thousands of jobs here, keeping our money here, investing in our nation? Drilling now starts us on that road to paying ourselves and stemming the single greatest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen. We may be a rich nation, but we aren't that rich.

  • Posted By: PutTheLotionInTheBasket @ 08/04/2008 8:28:35 PM

    "His father was NOT black, he was Arab. It stated so on his birth certificate."

    I believe that is historically correct (although not reported by the left wing media). That is why Hamas are some of his most rabid supporters.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/06/2008 12:39:35 AM

      His father's race on Obama's birth certificate is listed as AFRICAN. Not Arab. Kenya IS NOT an Arabic country.

    • Posted By: yupik1 @ 08/04/2008 8:40:02 PM

      Get a LIFE! You effin' Moron!

      • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/04/2008 8:45:41 PM

        Truly, and sadly, no life on that one...

  • Posted By: musketodf @ 08/05/2008 12:08:30 AM

    Obama is Muslim and stated in his book the Audacity of Hope (to paraphrase in my own words) that he would side with the Muslims if SHTF.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/06/2008 12:32:11 AM

      Here is the quote from his book "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/05/2008 12:36:23 AM

      I have been curious about that line I heard was in his book. Could an Obama supporter state the exact comment that Obama made in his book and pls explain cuz I have seen a statement like this, similar, dont know exact words, and the Obama said it was taken out of context.

      Could someone state the Muslim related comment from his book here and tell us what its exact meaning is? I am serious because I remember people saying it being taking out of context, but in what way.?

      Much appreciated.

  • Posted By: ptrommel @ 08/05/2008 1:43:36 AM

    I was born in northern Europe, raised in the northeast and, by choice, have spent all my adult life in the South. Having been brought up with elitist "old world" parents, spent my childhood in an world in Upstate NY, I welcomed the world of Bo and Luke Duke when choosing to go to school in the south and stay. The south has a distinctive charm and "realness" the Northeast lacks

    But what has happened in the last 30 years, is that the country has devalued intelligence over bravado and/or celebrity as weakness. Why are there so many shows about prisons? Why are we more interested in Britney Spears' latest idiocy than in what is happening with our country? It;s not about the North versus the South, because there are many highly intelligent people in the South, but about the idea that being a "Northern intellectual," especially if you're black, makes you uncool, even a traitor to your cause.

    The idea that a black man would be president scares a lot of white people who can't imagine a world where blacks are no longer the scapegoats for every ill in the country, But the real culprits are the people who run the corporations whose interests are being supported by the Republican administration. Why would white men in the South whose companies have cut jobs and health insurance and retirement benefits continue to support a party that will continue to do more of the same? Stop shooting yourselves in the foot, your "patriotism" and support of the right is only going to make your lives harder and harder while the rich (who run the companies you work for, most of which are headquartered outside the South) get richer and richer.

    • Posted By: Mr.ChitownKid @ 08/05/2008 2:05:38 AM

      An African-American is welcome, Not some elitist, country hating, liberal. If you can't or won't notice the difference-shame on you.

      • Posted By: raddave @ 08/06/2008 12:24:57 AM

        elitist has become the new word for uppity.

      • Posted By: bernsteinjerome @ 08/05/2008 2:23:12 AM

        Enter Your Comment: "country hating liberal" You are, indeed, as dumb as you write, apparently

    • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 08/05/2008 2:03:53 AM

      Your comment presupposes that blacks are scapegoats because whites are screwing something up and just need someone to blame. I don't think the ills within the black community are imaginary, friend, nor will they clear up with a black man in office. Blacks aren't "scapegoated" for anything, unless you think every black man moving through the criminal justice system is just the sad victim of political oppression, and whose charges aren't based on some actual crime. I can't think that blacks are scapegoated for crime any more than the ones they actually commit.

      • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 5:14:49 AM

        No, blacks being a scapegoat in the minds of millions does not equate to the logic of certain blacks being in prison on their own accord. He may have been stating that the system in which we live in is to blame (i.e. special interests, run-amok corporations, huge human greed freely being a cancer to society), but that there are a great deal of those that would like to think in their hearts that it is black people who are the cause. This is scapegoating, and your prison statement does not live up to contradicting his.

  • Posted By: Kingcreole @ 08/05/2008 11:10:07 AM

    The outcome of this election is tragic at best. Is this truly the best America has to offer? Scour the schools across the nation an see how many kids actually want to be president when they grow up. Not many I'm sure. Both candidates are socialists at best and not truely about democracy. It isn't free when they take 50% of your check out to fund all the free programs.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/05/2008 11:17:47 AM

      What "free" programs are you refering to? We don't get ANYTHING for our tax dollars, you're duped if you think we do - just WAR, WAR, WAR and military spending.

      Here's the latest on our current Bush-Hitler President: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26030573/

      I guess you think Bush is a great leader? Well, the rest of the world thinks otherwise, to say the least. Let's elect someone who can inspire and gain respect from the world for America again - not another GOP idiot who thinks because he's a super-patriot that everyone will automatically vote for him in the Fall. Of course, many will, but there is so much more to being president than being a super-patriot, war hero.

      • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 08/05/2008 2:31:35 PM

        Thats right ... most taxes are wasted or funneled away into some hole due to corruption. Better that the federal government NOT COLLECT them in the first place, and leave everything to the States.

        • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 08/05/2008 3:17:47 PM

          John McCain has fought waste in Congress, eschewing earmarks and working to make sure that the taxpayers know about bridges to nowhere and other boondoggles. Obama, on the other hand, has requested millions for his political cronies, financial supporters, and even his wife Michelle's employer after they gave her a big raise.

          • Posted By: raddave @ 08/06/2008 12:15:49 AM

            ALL congresspeople use earmarks. John McCain requested a 5 million dollar earmark for a wastewater project in Arizona. In 2003, John McCain slipped a $14.3 million earmark to create a bufferzone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona. In 2006 McCain, along with Az Sen. Jon Kyl requested and received a $10 million dollar earmark to build an academic center at the University of Az.

            • Posted By: raddave @ 08/06/2008 12:17:43 AM

              The one in 2003 I meant to say that he had it slipped into the Defense Authorization Bill

        • Posted By: raddave @ 08/05/2008 2:51:39 PM

          Congress has constitutional authority to levy taxes. Without taxes, how else would our federal government fund its budget?

      • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 08/05/2008 3:00:24 PM

        If Bush was Hitler, he'd have rounded up the socialists by now, taken over the media, the banks, and they'd be shooting Mexicans instead of waving "C'mon in". No friend, Bush is not Hitler. Please exaggerate somewhere else.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/05/2008 2:36:17 PM

      NOONE pays 50% of their wages in federal taxes.

      • Posted By: raddave @ 08/05/2008 2:46:53 PM

        Also, your tax dollars do not only pay for "free programs" they also pay for the highways you drive on, National defense, research and development, environmental protection, Food and Drug asministration, etc...

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/05/2008 10:39:43 PM

    I have one question: Where did Newsweek dig up such AWFUL looking photos of the crackers for this article? They look positively GROTESQUE. It's actually really funny - they're like the extreme stereotype (caricature) of the South - fat, eccentric, white and either churchy or just plain "Civil War" looking....

  • Posted By: Kingcreole @ 08/05/2008 10:14:41 PM

    The south has it fair share of problems folks no argument here. But for this writer Christopher Dickey to group us all into his "Hillbilly deluxe" category for simplicities sake to package us nice and neatly into the "they don't get it and they never will" group of people in life because we don't support his choice for the presidency is equally as shallow. Mr. Dickey would do well to research the many positive aspects of the "backwoods South". Things such as the South as a whole is the leading contributor year in and year out in donations to charitable organizations and it should be noted that we are the poorest area of the entire country. Quite possibly you have in your town a Shriner's Hospital (to help crippled children) the first one ever established was in Shreveport, LA. as well as the first St. Jude's Deam Home give away to benefit children with cancer. We as a people (southerners) are driven by our consciousness and desire to do what is right (the best we can) in the eyes of God. If your local news has a Crime stoppers segment you can once again thank Shreveport, LA. it originated here and so did Icee (one must have a cool consciousness at all times).

    And last, please do not think for one minute that most of us are in love with the idea of voting for McCain we are not. He is however the less evil of two lessers. As once was said in the Great State of Louisiana - "This is Louisiana, we don't expect our governor to be corrupt we demand it". McCain seems to be the more predictable of the two and therefore the safer bet at the moment.

    Oh yeah, we also brought y'all the 2007 NCAA Football Champions. Geaux Tigers. Ric Flair, NASCAR, Mardi Gras, Popeye's chicken, And Elvis too! We can't be all that bad now can we?

  • Posted By: Hey You! @ 08/05/2008 9:52:22 PM

    I love Pat Conroy! I wish I could forward this stupid article to him and the funny comments.

  • Posted By: emesa23 @ 08/05/2008 9:54:26 AM

    Chris,

    Why have you the letter W to refer to the President middle name but use the full middle name for Obama? This seems very suspicious.

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/05/2008 10:18:41 AM

      I think it was to showcase Hussein, a name with which most Americans have negative associations, and to show how backward-thinking Southerners are.

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 08/05/2008 11:26:32 AM

        Speak for yourself. The whole world thinks of southerners as a little "special" as the French say (it's not complimentary)... So get over it! The South is changing, for the better, as new blood moves in and improves the genetic mix.

        • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 08/05/2008 9:20:00 PM

          "The genetic mix"? Douchebag1963, you are openly racist and ignorant - that comment really highlights it for all.

        • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/05/2008 11:58:35 AM

          Lol I WAS speaking for myself.

          • Posted By: catspaw @ 08/05/2008 6:04:08 PM

            Let's just say backward thinking people in general. ok?

        • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 08/05/2008 2:57:37 PM

          The genetic mix? So what you're saying is that you're a bigot of a different stripe.

    • Posted By: Kingcreole @ 08/05/2008 10:10:51 AM

      That would represent truth in journalism and we can't have that now can we.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/05/2008 9:11:50 PM



    RASMUSSEN REPORTS
    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Tuesday, August 05, 2008

    TIED

    McCain - 44%

    Obama - 44%

    WITH LEANERS:

    McCain - 47%

    Obama - 46%

    FAVORABLY VIEWED by the nations voters

    McCain - 55%

    Obama - 53%

    Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day.

    VOTERS TRUST ON ENERGY ISSUES

    McCain - 46%

    Obama - 42%

    Daily tracking results are collected via telephone surveys of 1,000 likely voters per night and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. The margin of sampling error???for the full sample of 3,000 Likely Voters--is +/- 2 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/05/2008 12:44:26 AM


    Could an Obama supporter tell me what this line from one of Obamas books (think it was Dreams of my Father) means cuz I have seen people post it and supporters say that the poster is taking it out of context. Can you explain how we should interpret his comment? Much appreciated.

    FIRST OF ALL, IS THIS THE EXACT WORDING HE SAID? IF SO, WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS? Thx.

    Obama said:

    In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans ??? have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging, he laments. I WILL STAND WITH THEM SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION.




    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/05/2008 12:54:28 AM

      that is not the exact wording, this is "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

      It means that if there was ever talk about interning the Arab Americans he would stand with them.

      • Posted By: raddave @ 08/05/2008 12:57:00 AM

        the quote is from "Audacity of Hope," Pages 260-261

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/05/2008 4:13:31 AM

          Thank you for the exact page numbers to reference. Appreciate it.

          • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 5:35:08 AM

            It still kind of sickens me that the context is so manipulatively removed and that the wording is changed to suit the desperate whims of those would seek to lie to tens of millions.

            So many have bought into this. Does it not leave a very horrible taste in anyone else's mouths?

            • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 08/05/2008 6:43:55 PM

              Yes,

              It definitely does, but so many posters, because they feel safe in their anonyminity, are comfortable doing so. They continue to take this one sentence out of the entire paragraph and spin it to imply again that Obama is a radical muslim terrorist plant. I would say that they should be ashamed but since these people obviosly have issues with understanding the meaning of shame and human decency, what would be the point. This man's citizen, his religion, his patriotism, his marriage even his sexuality are constantly being challenged on these boards. These same Troglodytes even delight in questioning his sexuality.

              They smugly claim that all politicians are treated this way. I resent this most of all as I am not a fool!

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/05/2008 4:14:44 AM

        Yes, that is why I wanted a confirmaiton on the wording cuz there is so much on the internet. Okay, I can see where he is coming from by those statements based on your explanation. Thank you.

    • Posted By: Enlightened @ 08/05/2008 3:32:17 AM

      Actually this is very simple, let me draw a comparison from our U.S. past to put this in perspective.

      I take it you remember Pearl Harbor? At the time the U.S. had around 2 million Japanese Americans living in the U.S. When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, drawing us into WW!! the mindset at the time was that every Japaneese American was under suspicion of being a simpathizer. Many were rounded up and put in prison camps or consentration camps just because they were Japaneese. There were beatings and other crimes committed against them even though they had no affiliations or allegences to Japan.

      A great man once said "those who fail to remember the past are doomed to repeat it".

      Obama is saying that he isn't going to let the actions of a few militant muslams bring the same abuses to those who are good American families.

      I"m a 40 yr old white male with an interest for history. Lets remember that we are all decendants of immegrants and that its not just a white nation. We had the Native Americans here long before we destroyed their way of life. Our ancestors wrongfully imprisoned Africans to advance our way of life. Other nationalities came to these shores to seek out a better way of life for their families just like we want for ours. Whether that be Muslim, Mexicans, Africans or whatever other nationality or religion decides to dawn these shores. Being Christian isn't required by our constitution, thats the reason the fore father saw fit to include the requirement of "Separation of Church and State". Our fore fathers were'nt all Christians, some were Athiosts. Thomas Jefferson actually owned a Quoran used in the Muslim faith which was just recently used to swear in Congressman Keith Ellison who is a muslim. The gov't shouldn't be in the business of legislating religion, thats what gives us the freedom to religion in our country no matter what religion that might be. Thats exactly what we fought the British for.

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/05/2008 4:17:01 AM

        That makes sense. Thanks for going into detail . Not having the context behind it does come off differently and the info you provided helped put his comment into perspective.

  • Posted By: Storms_End @ 08/05/2008 12:52:54 AM

    This article, while articulate and having some very good analysis is based on some shaky pretenses with liberal bias. You say Obama is a Christian, and a practicing one at that...how then, are we to reconcile his unwillingness to swear in as POTUS on a bible? How are we to reconcile his blatant disregard for the bible, one of his self-proclaimed favorite books, by endorsing a Reverend who spews bile, and filth to all people that don't agree with him? It seems to me these are some tough questions that he has pushed aside, just as he does with other issues. It's time for the American people to stand united, on that you are correct, but to stand united in learning who the REAL Barack Obama is. An amazing mind for sure, but also a person who will throw anyone under a bus who gets in his way, a socialist, a Muslim one day, Christian the next, liberal space cadet who has his head in the clouds, a man in the pursuit of his own egotistical and ambitious goals. The danger here, is that he will destroy America to pursue is version of "a better world."

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/05/2008 1:01:26 AM

      Obama has never stated an unwillingess to swear in as President on the bible. He was sworn into the U.S. Senate using his family Bible. Obama has never been a Muslim. I happen to think Obama's vision for a better America will not destroy it, but make it the shining example that it once was.

      • Posted By: bluegrass101 @ 08/05/2008 1:37:29 AM

        This is why some people pick on the South. Your comments are totally false, you need to research the factsbefore you make statements that he refused to Honor the Bible etc. It's people like you that help spread the lies.

        • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 08/05/2008 6:33:07 PM

          Hi I think that you misread Raddave's comment as that is not at all what he posted.

        • Posted By: raddave @ 08/05/2008 1:34:47 PM

          How are my statements false? How has Obama "refused to honor the Bible?"

      • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 08/05/2008 1:07:42 AM

        America was never the "shining example" that Obama will make it. If you think so, you have a very peculiar view of the past and what made this country "great".

        • Posted By: raddave @ 08/05/2008 1:37:42 PM

          Sure it was. A respected nation that the rest of the free world looked toward for leadership and council. In the past eight years, the U.S. has become a nation scorned by the rest of the world and has lost the respect of our allies and friends in the world. Except for maybe Israel because we have let them run roughshod over their neighbors.

        • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/05/2008 10:37:17 AM

          America is not perfect, but I believe we are moral and just overall. Overall, Americans mean well. Go to pretty much any other country (except Canada or anywhere in Europe) and see how much better it is there...

        • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 5:30:14 AM

          So would you rather have someone try to better the country with high expectations? Or would you rather have what we've seen over the last 8 years? The choice seems simple enough.

    • Posted By: rapidron @ 08/05/2008 5:29:06 AM

      The bible assertion as well as the lapel pin 'non-patriotic' talk were the kind of things that the McCain camp threw out to the public. They were manipulating you with things that weren't even true. When I realized this, my view of McCain dropped tenfold.

  • Posted By: woohoo @ 08/04/2008 11:20:48 AM

    this articles is quite stereotypical. there is deep seated racism in all parts of the country, not just in the south. there are more hate groups in PA than in TX. The re-enactment of the lynching is disgusting. as we saw with the primaries, race relations and this country's acceptability to a candidate that is black varies from state to state. my thing is this. if you don't want to vote for Obama because he's black, just say that. don't blame it on the flagpin that you can buy at a dollar store or that he's muslim even though he's bent over backwards to say that he is not or anything that he or michelle has said. everyone knows that those are the superficial reasons. the real elephant in the room is racism or even more specifically white supremacy. it hurts the ego of many whites (even those that claim (or claimed) that they are not racist) that any person of color will be running the country.

    • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 08/04/2008 11:32:53 AM

      I won't vote for him because he admits using cocaine for years. There is a reason cocaine users are thin.

      • Posted By: woodchip @ 08/04/2008 11:54:15 AM

        And off of which internet site did you get this bogus information? And yes, it is bogus!

        • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 08/04/2008 12:10:32 PM

          I got it from his book, he is the one who said it was years, not me.

          • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 08/05/2008 6:32:06 PM

            So what? Since then he's graduated from Columbia and Harvard, taught constitutional law at University of Chicago, been elected to the US Senate. Geo. W.'s an alcoholic. Say what?

        • Posted By: hecaba @ 08/04/2008 12:18:48 PM

          Woodchip the information about the cocaine use actually came from the man himself in his books. So next time check your facts before you call someone a liar. During his high school and college years he was using.

          http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/BothSidesAllSides/story?id=2773754&page=1

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