Here We Go Again

Watch Paris Hilton's rebuttal video to the McCain ad of last week... very funny!!!

HiddeHo Harley Ho....what up BikerChick.......seems you challenged me for a response a few DAYS ago. I responded...YOU did not.....Kinda like Hussein challenging Sen McCain and then turning tail. Well, maybe you just forgot.....so here is another chance............

........Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 08/02/2008 19:12:39
Comment: Hey CornHolyO same question for you as was for DavHerpe:

WHat are the ENERGY EXPERTS saying about offshore drilling, timelime, actuall "impact" to prices, etc? DARE YOU TOANSWER try to make it honest and stay on topic here oilboy.

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HiddeHoHarleyHo...what up BickerChick......stay on topic??? NOT the "Hussein is a mohammed" topic??? That IS my favorite. But, if you want to talk energy....probably over your head......but what the heck...here's a brief summary. HolyRoller is a blogger not an expert (supply vs demand I understand....do you?)...so I'll let an expert I find quite convincing, answer you.........

There's been a huge transfer of power to oil producers. Even at $100 a barrel, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates will earn almost $8 trillion in oil revenues between now and 2020, estimates the McKinsey Global Institute. More troubling are the political implications. "This has really strengthened the Iranians, Russians and Venezuelans to be more provocative in the world," says Larry Goldstein of the Energy Policy Research Foundation. Although governments control crude supplies, private companies have dominated distribution. Anyone can buy oil at a price. Now oil could become a political commodity offered to friends at a discount, withheld from rivals.

How can we retrieve some of our lost power? The first thing is to get out of denial. Stop blaming oil companies and "speculators." Next, we need to expand domestic oil and natural-gas drilling, including Alaska. Although we can't "drill our way" out of this problem, we can augment oil supplies and lessen price strains. It might take 10 years or more, because new projects are huge undertakings. But delay will only aggravate our future problems.

Argue against this SIMPLE TRUTH. Show us all how really goofy, a devout obamamohammed, can really be. Can't blame that on whitey......OOPs...sorry...I forgot how good at that you are.

YOUR TURN....now STAY ON TOPIC

NOBAMA!!!

Now comes two of Obamas press proxies. One is E.J Dionne,appearing in todays Washington Post. The other,NY Times scribbler Bob Herbert appearing on MSNBC yesterday. It gets stupid right out of the gate,and then it gets plain bizzare.

For Dionne,criticism of Obama in the form of the term ''liberal elites''has now become a code word for ''black''. A truly monumental turning of a phrase virtually upside down,never taking into account that those suspicious,often rightfully so of such elitism as it governs ideological forces within the Beltway,is applied equally to those of ALL races. Not those who are merely ''black''. A stupid moment for Dionne,who forgets that the Rush Limbaughs of the world were merrily using such a term to describe white liberals,including the Kennedys,Boxers,Pelosis,Edwards,algores,et all,long before Barack ever stepped foot in a state legislature.
The bizzare goes to the Obama disciple Herbert,who appeared on MSNBCs ''Morning Joe''[Scarbourough],and decried the McCain ''Celebrity''ad by darkly hinting at the marriage of white women and images of the Washington Monument and the Berlin victory monument[where Obama had a stage set up], as ''phallic symbols''. Or:


Black candidate seeks to have sex with white women.

Yet on the Obama campaign website,images of white women in close proximity to the candidate[close enough to be filmed],figure in fourteen straight ads and media clips,none of which eminated from the McCain camp. Hardnosed Mike Royko commonsense reporting has been replaced by liberal-peddled paranoia.

May 10-11, 2008 ??? Navy releases McCain???s military record

The Navy released John McCain???s military record after a Freedom of Information Act request from the Associated Press. The record is packed with information on McCain???s medals and commendations but little else.

The one thing that the McCain campaign does not want to see released is the record of McCain???s antics on board the USS Forestal in 1967. McCain was personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy and that blemish trumps McCain???s record as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam.

November 20, 2007 ??? More details emerge on McCain carrier incident

It has been learned additional details regarding the deadly fire aboard the Navy aircraft carrier, the USS Forrestal, on July 19, 1967 in the Gulf of Tonkin. The additional details point to then-Lieut. Commander John McCain playing more of a role in triggering the fire and explosions than previously reported.

On January 16, 2006, WMR reported that according to a U.S. Navy sailor who was aboard the Forrestal on the fateful day of the fire, ???McCain and the Forrestal???s skipper, Capt. John K. Beling, were warned about the danger of using M-65 1000-lb. bombs manufactured in 1935, which were deemed too dangerous to use during World War II and, later, on B-52 bombers. The fire from the Zuni misfire resulted in the heavy 1000 pounders being knocked loose from the pylons of McCain???s A-4, which were only designed to hold 500-pound bombs.??? WMR further reported, ???The unstable bombs had a 60-second cook-off threshold in a fire situation and this warning was known to both Beling and McCain prior to the disaster.???

It has also been cited the potential that McCain???s Navy records were used against him by the neocons in control of the Pentagon, ???The neo-cons, who have had five years to examine every file within the Department of Defense, have likely accessed documents that could prove embarrassing to McCain, who was on board the USS Forrestal on July 29, 1967, and whose A-4 Skyhawk was struck by an air-to-ground Zuni missile that had misfired from an F-4 Phantom.???

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There is information that crewmen aboard the Forrestal have provided additional information about the Forrestal incident. It is believed by many crewmen and those who have investigated the case that McCain deliberately ???wet-started??? his A-4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4. ???Wet-starts???, done either deliberately or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.

In McCain???s case, the ???wet-start??? apparently ???cooked off??? and launched the Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that touched off the explosions and massive fire. The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration.

???Wet starting??? was apparently a common practice among young ???hot-dog??? pilots. McCain was quickly transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred). After the disaster, McCain was shot down over North Vietnam on October 26, 1967.

As has been previously reported, at the time of the Forrestal disaster, McCain???s father, Admiral John McCain, Jr., was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of the deadly and pre-meditated June 8, 1967, Israeli attack on the NSA spy ship, the USS Liberty. The fact that both McCains were involved in two incidents just weeks apart that resulted in a total death count of 168 on the Forrestal and the Liberty, with an additional injury count of 234 on both ships (with a number of them later dying from their wounds) with an accompanying classified paper trail inside the Pentagon, may be all that was needed to hold a Sword of Damocles over the head of the ???family honor???-oriented McCain by the neocons.

Information by a knowledgeable ex-Navy A-4 pilot, the ???wet-start game??? was a common occurrence. However, it is between ???very unlikely??? and ???impossible??? for the Forrestal ???wet start??? to have been accidental. ???Wet starts??? were later rendered impossible by automated engine controls.

"War is one thing, collaborating with the enemy is another; it is a legitimate campaign issue that strikes at the heart of McCain's character. . . or lack thereof. In occupied countries like Iraq, or France in World War II, collaboration to that extent spells an automatic death sentence. . . . The question is: What kind of collaborator was John McCain, the admitted war criminal who will hate the Vietnamese for the rest of his life?

"Put it another way: how psychologically twisted is McCain? And what actually happened to him in his POW camp that twisted him? Was it abuse, as he claims, or was it the fact that he collaborated and has to cover up? Covering-up can take a lot of energy. The truth is lurking there in his subconscious, waiting to explode.

"McCain had a unique POW experience. Initially, he was taken to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp, where he was interrogated. By McCain's own account, after three or four days he cracked. He promised his Vietnamese captors, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital ...

"His Vietnamese captors soon realized their POW, John Sidney McCain III, came from a well-bred line in the American military elite. . .The Vietnamese realized, this poor stooge has propaganda value. The admiral's boy was used to special treatment, and his captors knew that. They were working him."

"....two weeks into his stay at the Vietnamese hospital, the Hanoi press began quoting him. It was not 'name rank and serial number, or kill me'. as specified by the military code of conduct. McCain divulged specific military information: he gave the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, the number of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight formation, as well as information about the location of rescue ships."...McCain was held for five and half years. The first two weeks' behavior might have been pragmatism, but McCain soon became North Vietnam's go-to collaborator...McCain cooperated with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. His situation isn???t as innocuous as that of the French barber who cuts the hair of the German occupier. McCain was repaying his captors for their kindness and mercy.

"This is the lesson of McCain's experience as a POW: a true politician, a hollow man, his only allegiance is to power. The Vietnamese, like McCain's campaign contributors today, protected and promoted him, and, in return, he danced to their tune. ..."

John McCain's been getting kid-glove treatment from the press for years, ever since he wriggled free of the Keating scandal and his profitable association-- another collaboration,-- you might say with the nation's top bank swindler in the 1980s. But nothing equals the astounding tact with which his claque on the press bus avoids the topic of McCain's collaborating with his Vietnamese captors after he'd been shot down.

How McCain behaved when he was a prisoner is key. McCain is probably the most unstable man ever to have got this close to the White House. He's one election away from it. Republican senator Thad Cochrane has openly said he trembles at the thought of an unstable McCain in the Oval Office with his finger on the nuclear trigger.

What if a private memory of years of collaboration in his prison camp gnaws at McCain, and bursts out in his paroxysms of uncontrollable fury, his rantings about "gooks" and his terrifying commitment to a hundred years of war in Iraq. What if "the hero" knows he's a phony?
Doug Valentine has written the definitive history of the Phoenix Program in Vietnam. He knows about the POW experience. His dad, an Army man, was captured by the Japanese and sent to a POW camp in the Philippines for forced labor. Many of his mates died. Doug wrote a marvelous book about it, The Hotel Tacloban.

Now Valentine has picked up the unexploded bomb lying on McCain???s campaign trail this year. As he points out, he's not the first. Rumors and charges have long swirled around McCain's conduct as a prisoner. Fellow prisoners have given the lie to McCain's claims. But Valentine has assembled the dossier. It's devastating.

It will be a lot easier to define Obama psychologically and politically than to place him within a historical context. But it is within a historical context that he emerges as most frightening. Unfortunately, Americans know as much about Hughes, Fanon, Sartre, Marcuse, Malcom X, Carmichael, as they do about Fitzgerald, Alexander Hamilton, Nietzsche, Weber, Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt. Nothing.

Good opinion piece by Brooks in the NYT on how Obama is hard to "place." Should Republicans allow him to run as a personality or should they "place" him politically, historically, and psychologically?

Huachuca, I'm still waiting for your reply to my comments... you did accuse me unjustly... I dare you to reply to me.. come on.. show me how big and mean you can be to someone who is not your size. And here I was thinking you and I were good. Naive, trusting me.