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  • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 4:25:56 AM

    I'm signing out, so have fun bickering to yourself mr. brainless zombie Mccain supporter.
    And is it me, or is everyone that has been in a war and runs for president called a war hero.
    hmmmm.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/05/2008 4:36:16 AM

      Didn't mean to hurt your feelings, please come again. It was fun. I wouldn't call yourself brainless though, you got a brain in there just difference of opinions nothing more. You just have a harder time justifying yours thats all. Too much Olbermann perhaps?
      I don't know ask John Kerry or Jack Kennedy too while your at it?

  • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/04/2008 7:09:31 PM

    Well I guess the next question is what Democrat is dumb enough to run with Obama, and have Obama take all of the credit for his hard work? We've all seem Obama has no problem with taking credit for others hard work.

    • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/04/2008 10:18:59 PM

      One, what credit has he taken away from anyone? and two, you think a republican leader has NEVER taken credit for anyone's work. BS, see that's the problem with you Mccains bloggers, it's all bark and no bite. All talk with no evidence, it really shows the substance of you guys, you have no substance.

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/04/2008 10:57:26 PM

        Obama took credit for legislation in the Illinois Senate for Bill he did not push through, thanks to his menotr Emil Jones.
        Here read the article for yourself: http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/

        Or how about here when Obama tries to take credit for legislation in the US Senate:
        ""I want to cite Lindsey Graham, Sam Brownback, Mel Martinez, Ken Salazar, myself, Dick Durbin, Joe Lieberman . . . who've actually had to wake up early to try to hammer this stuff out," he said.

        To Senate staff members, who had been arriving for 7 a.m. negotiating sessions for weeks, it was a galling moment. Those morning sessions had attracted just three to four senators a side, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) recalled, each deeply involved in the issue. Obama was not one of them. But in a presidential contest involving three sitting senators, embellishment of legislative records may be an inevitability, Specter said with a shrug."
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/23/AR2008032301706_pf.html
        But don't forget to keep reading to see how Obama tried to take credit for legislation from Sen. Dodd.

        Or hell how about his recent self appointed position to the chair of the Senate Banking Committee.
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/23/obama-makes-a-gaffe-says_n_114568.html
        (Look you can't say I'm using Biased sources either...this is from the Huff a Puff)

        So do you want to take back your "NEVER taken credit for anyone's work" statement now?

        • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 1:28:50 AM

          Have you read my comment, when I said "NEVER taken credit for anyone's work", I was talking about republican leaders. Yet you say the quote like I was talking about Obama. It's just like you people to manipulate other people's words to make them look bad. Yet you still haven't answered my question. Has a republican ( like John Mccain) never taken credit for anyone elses work? Huh? I mean, I'm completely open minded but I want to hear both sides, both negatives alright.

          • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/05/2008 1:54:46 AM

            Your right I misread your comment, for that I apologize.
            Has McCain ever taken credit for other's work....no. If you know otherwise please provide some proof please, since no one can trust a partisan hack like yourself.

            • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 4:07:11 AM

              Your right, I'll give you a recent one Mccain took credit for the passing GI Bill Expansion even when he opposed it in the first place. <http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16047.htm>

              • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 4:32:35 AM

                try html

              • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/05/2008 4:22:05 AM

                Oops...

                The page you're looking for can't be found.

                Your link is dead....

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/04/2008 9:01:49 PM

      More VP prospect have said they don't want the job, than VP prospects he has left. They aren't all fools.

  • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 2:55:51 AM

    One, I think evert president at some point have learned on the job. I mean, unless you've been president before, you have no experience being president unless your VP, so you will have to learn on the job. And two, I've mentioned this before, experience doesn't define a good president. George Bush had "experience" before he became president, and look at the mess he's made he's created. In his 8 years, over 4,000 soldiers have died, we're nearing a recession where at the beggining we had a surplus, and millions of people are going bankrupt and losing their homes as well as their businesses. Even the most experienced person can run a country into the toilet. But we are safer with him. I mean, we
    haven't been attacked by another hurricane have we?:-) But you're right, 72 a good age for president, right after the point where his body and his brain are slowly deteriorating as his ability to think straight slowly winds down and he becomes susceptible to outside influences like Bush and the oil companies.

  • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 2:31:11 AM

    Check it out, it's on th New Gallup poll.
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/109156/Obama-Retains-Strength-Among-Highly-Educated.aspx

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/05/2008 2:54:56 AM

      No, I will go look. Did you see the stats of Rasmussen Reports today (really, yesterday, Mon Aug 4)? I had to take a double take at the stats I saw. It will be interesting if it stays that way or not tomorrow. I cant believe how close this race has been and I really believe it will be a squeeker no matter who wins.

      RASMUSSEN REPORTS
      Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
      Monday, August 04, 2008

      TIED

      John McCain - 44 %

      Barack Obama - 44%


      WITH LEANERS:

      John McCain - 47%

      Barack Obama - 46%


      This is the first time McCain has enjoyed a statistically advantage since Obama clinched the Democratic nomination on June 3rd.

      Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day.

      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

      AMONG UNAFFILIATED VOTERS:

      McCain - 52%

      Obama - 37%

      FAVORABLY VIEWED BY THE NATIONS VOTERS:

      McCain - 55%

      Obama - 51%


      This is the LOWEST rating for Obama since he wrapped up the nomination.

      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/05/2008 2:42:49 AM

      I'm actually surprised, most Obama supporters either can't or don't provide any proof to their claims....so kudos.
      As for the pol results, Obama leads in Uneducated as well as Post Graduate. While McCain leads among College Graduates.
      The Post Graduate is actually a no brainer, of course Obama is going to lead among the Academic "elite". Academics, are idealists more focused on the theory than the specifics, much like most of Obama's plans, all talk but no substance.
      Why does McCain lead among College educated with no post graduate though and who is in the majority...how many people do you know with college degrees as compared to PHD's? The results look good for McCain, so thanks.

      • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 2:48:27 AM

        I could say the same about Mccain supporters.

  • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 2:35:04 AM

    (For when you get back).Sharenews, did you like the video?

  • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 2:16:41 AM

    Hello, if you've been looking at the polls at all, you would see more college educated voters vote for Obama than they do Mccain.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/05/2008 2:29:02 AM

      Like I asked before, which poll are you looking at? I want to see it for myself, so if you could provide a link that would be great.

  • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 2:18:42 AM

    Wait, zombie, are you argueing for fun or are you being serious, because I don't want any negative feelings.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/05/2008 2:28:12 AM

      If you didn't start with the personal attack then I wouldn't have. I'm here for fun, why else would I be on these board if it wasn't for fun.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/05/2008 1:56:36 AM

    Response to Notrepublican @ 08/04/2008 22:22:24 below:

    Huh? Obama is real modest?

    The definition of Pompous and examples of Obamas modesty below:

    DEFINITION OF POMPOUS

    Main Entry: pomp·ous Pronunciation: \??päm-p??s\ Function: adjective Date: 15th century
    1 : excessively elevated or ornate <pompous rhetoric>
    2 : having or exhibiting self-importance : arrogant <a pompous politician>

    EXAMPLES OF OBAMA POMPOUSNESS

    * Created his own presidential campaign seal in the image of the official Presidential seal (altering the words). http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/23/obama-seal-no-more/

    * Obama requested to accept the Democratic presidential nomination at a 76,000-seat open-air stadium (a rather dramatic venue) rather than at the site of the Dems national convention location across town where nominations usually are held (holds 20,000 seats). (This moves creates many logistical problems the DNC twill need to deal with as well as raises security challenges). All because he wants to be idolized by people in massive proportions all around him (like Caesar or Nero) in a grandeur atmosphere. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/07/politics/main4236555.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_4236555

    * Obama requested aides to try to arrange a speech at a second DRAMATIC VENUE: Berlins Brandenburg Gate! The same venue that Ronald Reagan spoke at and JFK made a speech in front of when they were Presidents, not wannabe Presidents.

    * Obamas speech in Germany was a whole bunch of pompous clichés. Stuff like IT FALLS TO US TO ACT WITH THE SAME SENSE OF PURPOSE AND PRAGMATISM AS AN EARLIER GENERATION, TO JOIN WITH FRIENDS AND PARTNERS TO LEAD THE WORLD ANEW --wrapped around the conventional wisdom. And that is all there ever has been to Barack Obama: symbolism and grandiloquent speeches.


    Uhhhh, does anyone still think that Obama is modest. (?????)

    I have more examples . . . .


    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/05/2008 2:00:21 AM

      Don't forget to add Dana Milbanks Washington Post column....
      www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/29/AR2008072902068.html

      Barack Obama has long been his party's presumptive nominee. Now he's becoming its presumptuous nominee.

      But of course Milbank is being called a racist for daring to write about Obama in a negative tone....
      rossdouthat.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/dana_milbank_cryptoracist.php

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 08/04/2008 5:29:35 PM

    Barry. That horrid old man is doing it to you again. And you are just sitting there. Remember what happened to Kerry when he did not fight back. You have to fight back. Otherwise Americans won't believe that you can take on the people who mean to do them harm. I know you think it's risky to attack McCain because you might be perceived as ...., but you have more to lose by looking like a patsy.. You gotta go toe to toe. Eye for an eye. Tooth for a tooth.

    • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/04/2008 10:22:24 PM

      See, that's the problem with Obama, he's too modest. You'd think that would be a good quality about him, but Mccain will punch and cheap shot however many times and wherever he needs to in order to when. Whether it's face to face, or whether when Obama has his back turned, Mccain will do whatever it takes.

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/05/2008 1:53:29 AM



        OMG. You are kidding, no? Obama is too modest?

        Huh? Oh you are so correct, Obama is real modest. Definition of Pompous and examples of Obamas modesty below:

        DEFINITION OF POMPOUS

        Main Entry: pomp·ous Pronunciation: \??päm-p??s\ Function: adjective Date: 15th century
        1 : excessively elevated or ornate <pompous rhetoric>
        2 : having or exhibiting self-importance : arrogant <a pompous politician>

        EXAMPLES OF OBAMA POMPOUSNESS

        * Created his own presidential campaign seal in the image of the official Presidential seal (altering the words). http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/23/obama-seal-no-more/

        * Obama requested to accept the Democratic presidential nomination at a 76,000-seat open-air stadium (a rather dramatic venue) rather than at the site of the Dems national convention location across town where nominations usually are held (holds 20,000 seats). (This moves creates many logistical problems the DNC twill need to deal with as well as raises security challenges). All because he wants to be idolized by people in massive proportions all around him (like Caesar or Nero) in a grandeur atmosphere. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/07/politics/main4236555.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_4236555

        * Obama requested aides to try to arrange a speech at a second DRAMATIC VENUE: Berlins Brandenburg Gate! The same venue that Ronald Reagan spoke at and JFK made a speech in front of when they were Presidents, not wannabe Presidents.

        * Obamas speech in Germany was a whole bunch of pompous clichés. Stuff like IT FALLS TO US TO ACT WITH THE SAME SENSE OF PURPOSE AND PRAGMATISM AS AN EARLIER GENERATION, TO JOIN WITH FRIENDS AND PARTNERS TO LEAD THE WORLD ANEW --wrapped around the conventional wisdom. And that is all there ever has been to Barack Obama: symbolism and grandiloquent speeches.


        Uhhhh, does anyone still think that Obama is modest. (?????)


  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 08/04/2008 11:01:53 PM




    Your Comments were intended simply to warn the American people not to be taken in by efforts to paint Barack Obama as different, as outside the mainstream, as not like them, as not sharing their values, because they are attempts to divide Americans in a way that is un-American. No more, no less. Do I think you or your Republican allies will use Barack Obama's race to try to drive that point home? It's already been done. Did Fox News ever refer to your wife as your "Baby Mama?" And what exactly did your surrogate, Terry Hill, mean last week when he described Barack Obama on national television as "more politician than he is American"?

    Senator McCain, I believe we are one nation, under God, indivisible, and Barack Obama will do everything in his power as president, and in this campaign, to keep it that way. I suggest you aspire to the same standard. That's what I believe it means to be an American.


    • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/04/2008 11:09:56 PM

      Actually when Mccain was asked about the economy, he said he didn't know that much about it.

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/05/2008 12:38:58 AM

        "I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated."

        So considering McCain knows a lot about Military and FP, mean that McCain knows just a bit more than Obama, show also doesn't have a degree in economics either.

        Hey but here is someone that does:
        Obamanomics Is a Recipe for Recession
        Mr. Obama would thus give us the worst of both worlds: tax rates on ordinary income 40% higher than Reagan and on capital gains 40% higher than Clinton.
        http://www.stanford.edu/~boskin/Publications/On%20Obamanomics.pdf

        • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 1:08:31 AM

          No, you're wrong. But we are nearing a recession. And you know who put us this close to recession, Bush's policies. And you know who supports Bush's policies, John Mccain. And you know who's against Bushs' policies, Barack Obama. Get your facts straight before you put them on the internet, Got it. Jeez, it's like some people never learn these days.

          • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/05/2008 1:47:24 AM

            I'm glad you didn't say we are in a recession, because we are not. This last quarter the GDP grew, rather slowly but still grew.
            Facts straight ha like your one to talk....you know who else supports Bush's policies...Barack Obama. Or do you deny that Obama's Faith Based Initiatives are a page out of Bush's play book? Why did Obama vote for the Bush/Cheney/Enron Energy bill in 2005?

  • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/04/2008 2:52:06 AM

    What do you see in Mccain

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/04/2008 3:51:43 AM

      More of a person I can relate to.
      More safe as far as national security plans to implement.
      Definitely do believe we should pull out when our Generals say it is safe to do so and Petraous (sp?), after Obama said he would refine his plan according to the general's report, accordingly vs. his 16 month absolute pull out plan.
      Obama ignored Gen. Paetraous (sorry for spelling) and is still for the 16 mo pull out during the General Election run purely to pander to all his supporters whom he has pledged that he will stick to this timeline. Huh? Should Obama get elected. . . . plan on him entering the Oval Office and THEN listening to General Paetraeus' no timeline pull out). I just cant believe how enthralled half this country is with Obama to neglect his inherent major flaws. Well, I guess time will tell what happens and who gets elected as POTUS.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/04/2008 7:36:18 AM

        Well then share, that means you relate to President Bush then. I voted for him but you support him through McCain. Wouldn't you strongly agree?

        • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/04/2008 11:37:12 AM

          Is that what your down too? A vote for McCain is a vote for Bush? Well it seems as if Obama is and has backed a few Bush policies himself. Would that aqlso mean that a vote for Obama is a vote for Bush? After all, if McCain is Bush for agreeing with some of Bush's policies, then why does that not hold true for the One also? Because he doesn't look like any of the other presidents on the dollars? I suppose you now feel more drilling is ok now that the One has officially backed it?

          • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 1:42:43 AM

            One, Mccain supports most to all of Bush's policies, and Obama supports little to none of his policies. John supports Iraq, he supports borrowing from foreign countries, well, let's just say he supports all of the policies, that makes Bush, well, Bush.And I beleive Obama will put into effect his 16 month pull out. I mean, it only makes sense. Unlike the republican hopeful who gets the warring factions confused, Obama doesn't want to let anymore soldiers die in a war that we were conned into.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/04/2008 12:34:30 PM

            Well Sportlock, I am honored to get your attention, since after all, on many occasions you have deemed me to be, 'naive.' Sportlock, my comment is a sarcastic remark meant for sharenews and she knows it. She has posted at least twice that I have voted for Pres. Bush. When she did , it was not in a complimentary manner, it was to condemn me for having voted for the president twice. And yes, IMO, McCain will continue with the president's policies.
            I do appreciate your post, thanks.

  • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/04/2008 2:13:24 AM

    I remember seeing it on the news a while back about Mccain condemning his pastor for whatever and the comments his pastor made that made Mccain condemn him. By the way, if you could choose a VP for Obama who would it be?

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/04/2008 2:33:02 AM

      Jim Webb. But I think he already turned it down. Not just because he is a Senator for VA (eg. he would helo ensure VA for vote in that state), but because the guy is very solid from what I researched to be a sas a VP for Mr. O.

      • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/04/2008 10:13:56 AM

        Webb's book, "A Time to Fight", is top notch. Worth the time to read. He makes the grade in multiple layers.

        • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/04/2008 10:18:19 AM

          But, yes, Webb has turned the offer down. He needs to be in reserve for something meaningful in a Democratic administration. He has lots of depth, expresses himself carefully and effectively and possesses a talent for leadership desperately needed to clean up old and chronic messes we are wading around in.

          • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/04/2008 6:31:55 PM

            vice president seems like a pretty meaningful job doesn't it? The man does not want to live in the shadows, creating a legacy for Obama because we all know Obama has no problem with taking credit for work that is not his. Can you blame him?

            • Posted By: Notrepublican @ 08/05/2008 1:36:25 AM

              Sportlokc, didn't you read my comment, I said no mudlsinging. Yet it seems every chance you get, you mudsling. I admit, I do mudsling sometimes, yet every one of your comments is negative and demeaning, why is that?

  • Posted By: MartinCarmel @ 08/04/2008 11:07:48 PM

    Something the media continues to ignore:

    Obama = Close friend of Reverand Wright
    Rev. Wright = Close friend of Louis Farrakhan
    Louis Farrakhan = Close friend of Iran's President
    ....Birds of a Feather, folks. These are the people who will influence the White House.
    Translation?
    Obama spells the destruction of Israel.....War in the Middle east far greater than Iraq.....and this poor rookie won't even intend to do it.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/05/2008 1:23:51 AM


      If I were Israel I would not feel warm and fuzzy about Barack Obama with a scary flip flop like THIS one:

      OBAMA SAYS: Dont tell me words dont matter!


      OBAMA WORDS: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela -- these countries are TINY compared to the Soviet Union. They DONT pose a serious threat to us!


      TWO Days later . . .


      OBAMA WORDS: Iran is a GREAT threat! Iran is a GREAT threat (REALLY)! Iran is a GREAT threat (I AM NOT KIDDING HERE)!


      WHAT does Obama really believe?? What are we supposed to think if he tells us words DO matter and he flip flops on such a major belief issue??.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lx-QcstDcU

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/05/2008 1:16:26 AM


      OBAMAS RELATIONSHIPS STEMMING FROM HIS DIRECTORSHIP OF THE WOODS FUND

      1. William (Bill) Ayers - An admittedly unapologetic terrorist that Obama worked with on the Board of Directors for 8 years and associated with on a personal level outside of work with Michelle.

      2. Bernadine Dohrn (admittedly unapologetic terrorist, wife of Bill Ayers; she and Bill hosted fundraiser for Obama; Dohrn worked with Michelle in the same Law Firm )

      3. Woods Funds Investments (associations with radical anti
      -Israel organizations.):

      Source: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/03/obamas-problematic-directorship-woods.html

      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

      Then there is this guy . . . even Obama admitted he did not have good judgment associating with this felon in jail now.

      ANTOIN (TONY) REZKO -CONVICTED FELON WAS MORE THAN FUNDRAISER FOR OBAMA. HE WAS ALSO A FRIEND OF THE OBAMAS.

      1. Obama explains his TONY Rezko relationship to Sun-Times
      http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/844634,obamasun031508.article


      2. Obama admits involvement with Rezko was a MISJUDGMENT; a BONE-HEADED MISTAKE:

      http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4111483

      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

      Then there is this guy that Obama has known for years and who earlier this year made a firy sermon about ranting about Hillary Clinton with anger and rage. Video below. The sermon resulted in the Archbishop of Chicago putting Father Pfleger on leave after his mocking of Hillary Clinton became a national news story.
      Father Pfleger is on leave from his church:

      http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/obama-friend-father-pfleger-placed-on-leave/

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/05/2008 1:19:42 AM


        Continued from my post up above)

        FATHER PFLEGER - Friend for years, another spiritual advisor

        Here is another friend and another spiritual advisor, Father Pfleger, whom Mr. Obama. was introduced to years ago by the current Senior pastor, Rev. Otis of the TUCC (OBs former church) and has remained friends with over the years. Well at least up until recently since this video of Pfleger speaking at Obamas now former church was released for the media to air:

        http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Pfleger&search_type=

        Truth be known, Pfleger has a very troubling history: he has welcomed the anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan to preach in his church; he has hired prostitutes to worship there; he has been arrested for defacing billboards; and he once urged the crowd at an anti-gun rally to hunt down a gun store owner like a rat and snuff him.

        http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15380

        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

        Well, I guess if Obama supporters like to continually discredit a war hero, should be no problem sharing with people on this board the pattern of unsavory people have known to get to where he is now. Lets start with . . .

        REVEREND WRIGHT (Friend, adopted Uncle, Pastor, Spiritual Mentor for over 20 years):
        Obama waited 4 to 6 weeks before he put the Rev. Wright controversy to bed (and everyone knows it took three of those angry and hateful sermons by Rev. Wright after being exposed to the public before Obama gradually denounced Wrights words, then disowned himself of Rev. Wright, and finally disassociated himself altogether from his church, a church he was so closely associated with for 20+ years under the ministry of
        Reverend Wright.

        Obamas former church website if anyone wants to check it out. www.tucc.org

        Foundation of the Trinity United Church of Christ is its belief in Black Liberation Theology http://atheism.about.com/od/theology/a/lib_black.htm

        Reverend Wright, Obamas Spiritual Mentor, also presented his
        Churchs TRUMPETER AWARD to a MAN it said TRULY EPITOMIZED GREATNESS, Louis Farrakhan
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/14/AR2008011402083.html

        Newer consolidated video of Rev. Wrights Anti-American sermons filled with hate and anger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc2FCJ7zWEQ&feature=related

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 08/05/2008 12:43:16 AM

    We want to encourage a complete identification between the Democratic Party and Obama. Not a single Democratic candidate should be allowed to distance himself or herself from him at anytime.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/05/2008 12:49:16 AM

      I like what your doing but you know Satire is lost on Obama supporters.

      • Posted By: josemarti @ 08/05/2008 1:02:33 AM

        I think that he is being allowed to run as a personality separate from the Party. I think this is part of the reason he wants to hold his acceptance speech in a place other than where the convention is being held. I bet some Democrats are glad of it. We need to remind people that he is the Democratic Presidential candidate, otherwise Democrats won't be forced to pay the political price and also he will resist definition. REPUBLICANS SHOULD START REFERRING TO HIM AS THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL . CANDIDATE and probably stop mentioning his name. He is a Democrat, and at the extreme left of the Party.

  • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 08/04/2008 11:02:14 PM



    Senator McCain, I don't presume to know what's in your heart. I don't presume to know why you were in the minority even in your party in voting against the Martin Luther King holiday, any more than I presume to know what you were thinking when you and President Bush were eating birthday cake at your home in Arizona when people were hanging from the rooftops--not just black people--in New Orleans during Katrina. I don't presume to know what was in your heart when you suddenly reversed course this week from supporting affirmative action programs aimed at giving people who are willing to work hard a hand up and not a handout, to suddenly supporting a ballot initiative in your home state that would set the clock back 40 years, when you had previously described those ballot initiatives as thinly veiled efforts to divide American against American.

    But I'll tell you what I do know. Your party has used race to try to divide us in every election since 1968. You have personally attacked Barack Obama's patriotism, and you're the slimy worm that can't wait to do it again if it means a rise in the Bull sh!t polls. You've spoken to Barack Obama in patronizing ways that frankly a man of your limited knowledge of the issues that confront the American people--who can't even keep straight who the warring factions are in the Middle East, which is supposedly your strong suit, and who is so out of touch on the economy that his first response to the mortgage crisis was to blame it on the victims of unscrupulous lenders--has no business doing. You and your wife have attacked Barack Obama's character and the character of his wife, and I know the slimy worm that you are will try that again if it means a bump in the bull sh!t polls. Barack Obama has always assumed that you were a man of honor, but frankly, your relentlessly negative attacks on Barack Obama and your indifference to the truth is starting to make a lot of Americans wonder. For a man who said he wanted to run an honorable campaign, how many weeks and how many phone calls from Karl Rove did it take you to find the low road?


    Continued Below


  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/04/2008 1:59:29 PM

    Hello Spirited Away,

    I have read your comments to me, thanks...busy now... will def. reply later.

    Hope all is well, bye for now.........

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/04/2008 9:30:38 PM

      Hey hope you had a good weekend. I know I did.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/04/2008 9:36:49 PM

        Hi Z, how are you? Glad you had a good weekend, mine was fab too......thanks for asking. Btw, left you posts on Obama Sober Mood article. Please go read it. I'm so sorry. I didnt mean anything about you in my comment to AskPlus.

        • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/04/2008 9:55:57 PM

          Never mind about posting URL I found it....
          Don't worry bout it. I was just messing with you that day and thought I would raze you on that too...I actually forgot about it.
          I'm good just back at work....blah!!! Oh well...have a nice night.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/04/2008 10:33:25 PM

            Hey hi! Good you found my posts, thanks. Messing with me? You best not. I really was distressed over that.
            Honestly I forgot all about it that day. I'm glad you understand and you're okay, thanks. I shouldn't reply to comments at all unless I'm willing to finish the job right there and then.

            Z, don't work too hard and you have a nice night too... See ya tomorrow I hope...

            • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/04/2008 11:00:21 PM

              Ha ha yeah...it's all good. Yeah I should be on tonight until thursday. Got lots of house work to do this weekend, so won't be on much then, so you'll "see" me around more.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/04/2008 10:43:48 AM

    I bicker about the Iraq war. Not the Afghan war. The concept of preemptive war is not fit to exist in our government. It was flawed from the instant it was named, and it is still possible that it might yet be the subject of a war crimes tribunal. It was a bad seed planted and has grown into a nightmare. The opportunity to end it is at hand. The Democratic Government of Iraq asks us to leave current problems to them and for us to leave. We should leave. Any use of the words "victory" or "defeat" has no place in this matter. There has never yet been a definition of either term in this war that meets the standards of warfare definitions of victory or defeat. The purpose of the Iraq invasion was called by its perpetrators, the waging of a "War on Terror". Then, the bombing of a capital city with the purpose of shocking and causing an awe of our power in order to induce a quick surrender, meets the definition of terror itself. The Iraqi army did not surrender, but simply disintegrated. No victory there. Some say that the remnants of the army are causing a lot of the current disruption, but I can't know this. I can say, though, having been a draftee in our army many years ago, that if a foreign country invaded my country and caused our army to disintegrate, I probably would continue to try to harm them until they left the United States of America. This points up another problem that I see in our failure to put ourselves in the place of a country that has been invaded under false pretenses. Finally, after all of the Bush propaganda, a large majority of our citizens now accept the fact that the war was started with false and contrived pretense. Some say that we made a mess and need to stay there to clean up our error. Wrong. We need to leave and let the sovereign government of Iraq clean up as they request. Leaving there is neither a victory nor a defeat. It is simply the recognition that we have made a mistake and that the only way to decently correct it is to quit making a further mess. We need to let them separate themselves in a way that is livable and peaceable instead of us continuing to try to do this with our woeful lack of understanding of their complex religious needs. Lack of that understanding is what helped us get into this mess in the first place. The "War on Terror" is a monumental fraud perpetrated on the American people by an administration that has become desperate in its efforts to somehow salvage its posterity at our expense. It is time to come home.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/04/2008 11:25:14 AM

      So war is ok in your book as long as YOUR candidate backs where the war is? What ever happened to sending our children to die? Guess you only oppose the wars that Obama doesn't back. I see....

      • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/04/2008 11:33:03 AM

        Hey, sportylocks, maybe I missed something. Please show me where I say that war is ok in my book, and where I mention a candidate who backs the war. My guess is that you meant to reply to another blog. I welcome disagreement, but can't find it in your post related to mine above. Thanks.

        • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 08/04/2008 6:19:04 PM

          When you begin a question by referring to someone by a name you made up for them would you consider that to be respectful in Obamaland? Imagine if I asked you a question and referred to you as old geyser. Am I as a advocate of change showing you any respect even though we have a difference of opinion?

          • Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/04/2008 10:19:03 PM

            Sportylocks in lieu of SPORTLOCK09 was meant to be more in the vein of hale fellow well met than what it may have seemed. You are free to refer to me as old geyser, older but not wiser, or as one put it some months ago, old budweiser have another and I would not take umbrage. In my youth long ago, the alteration of a friends name was somewhat of a compliment. No offense intended, apology tendered. I will take no further liberties with your blog name without permission from here forward.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/03/2008 10:51:48 PM


    BOOK: The Obama Nation by Dr. Jerome Corsi, Ph.d

    Available Now:
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    and http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Nation-Jerome-R-Corsi/dp/1416598065/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217792859&sr=8-1

    THE OBAMA NATION

    Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality
    Barack Obama stepped onto the national political stage when the then-Illinois State senator addressed the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Soon after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, author Jerome Corsi began researching Obamas personal and political background.

    Scrupulously sourced with more than 600 footnotes (over 30 pages), THE OBAMA NATION is the result of that research. By tracing Obamas career and influences from his early years in Hawaii and Indonesia, the beginnings of his political career in Chicago, his voting record in the Illinois legislature, his religious training and his adoption of Christianity through to his recent involvement in Kenyan politics, his political advisors and fundraising associates and his meteoric campaign for president, Jerome Corsi shows that an Obama presidency would, in his words, be A REPEAT OF THE FAILED EXTREMIST POLITICS that have characterized and plagued Democratic Party politics since the late 1960s.

    In this stunning and comprehensive new book, the reader will learn about:

    * Obamas extensive connections with Islam and radical politics, from his father and step-fathers Islamic backgrounds, to his Communist and socialist mentors in Hawaii and Chicago, to his long-term and close associations with former Weather Underground heroes William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn, associations much closer than heretofore revealed by the press

    * Barack and Michelles 20-year-long religious affiliation with the black-liberation theology of former Trinity United Church of Christ Reverend Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons have always been steeped in a rage first expressed by Franz Fanon, Stokely Carmichael and Malcolm X, a rage that Corsi shows has deep meaning for Obama

    * Obamas continuing connections with Kenya, the homeland of his father, through his support for the candidacy of Raila Odinga, the radical socialist presidential contender who came to power amid Islamist violence and church burnings

    * Obamas involvement in the slum-landlord empire of the Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko, who helped to bankroll Obamas initial campaigns and to purchase of Barack and Michelles dream-home property.

    (Continued in Reply area below)

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 08/03/2008 10:53:29 PM



      NEW BOOK RELEASE: THE OBAMA NATION (Continued from my Post above)

      * the background and techniques of the Obama campaigns cult of personality, including the derivation of the words HOPE and CHANGE.

      * Obamas far-left domestic policy, his controversial votes on abortion, his history of opposition to the Second Amendment, his determination to raise capital-gains taxes, his impractical plan to achieve universal health care, and his radical plan to tax Americans to fund a global-poverty-reduction program

      * Obamas NAIVE, anti-war, anti-nuclear foreign-policy, predicated on the reduction of the military, the eradication of nuclear weapons and an OVERCONFIDENCE IN THE POWER OF HIS PERSONALITY, as if belief in change alone could somehow transform international politics, achieve nuclear-weapons disarmament and withdrawal from Iraq without adverse consequences, for us, for the Iraqis or for Israel.

      Meticulously researched and documented, THE OBAMA NATION is the definitive source for information on why and how Barack Obama must be defeated - not by invective and general attacks, but by detailed arguments that are well-researched and fact-based.


      INTERVIEW with Author of The Obama Nation, Dr. Jerome Corsi, Ph.d

      Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdFs6hjPnyw

      Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgaGFITnTAQ

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/04/2008 10:01:04 PM

        I may or may not pick that book up...depends on how reliable his sources are....

  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 08/04/2008 9:33:37 PM

    Zombie, please go read my two posts to you on the 'Obama in a Sober Mood' article. Thank you.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/04/2008 9:51:56 PM

      lol ok I can't remember which one that was...can you paste the url?

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 08/04/2008 3:28:43 PM

    Dunno. Right about now,Obamas attack wing appears to eminate from the Washington press corps,which neccesarily include NEWSWEAK scribblers. David Gergen,lifting a page from the WaPos Gene[Eugene] Robinson and Dana Milbank[these two I mixed up last week and printed an errata elsewhere on these pages],is again,using the critique of ''presumption/arrogance''and turning it into a racial ''uppity''construct.[Obamas campaign jet,a remodeled BOEING 727,bears blue-plush seats with the golden stitched letters,''President'',stamped thereon].
    Gergens amazingly stupid assertions[for him anyway,who is usually worthy of at least some respect in matters political,as he has worked with both Democrats and Republicans],make plain that ANY critique of Obama can be justly [for him and Milbank anyway] twisted into a racial creation. Into this fray steps todays RASMUSSEN,which releases the following poll.

    Percentage of Americans Viewing McCains ''Celebrity''Ad As ''Racist'': 23%

    Percentage of Americans Viewing Obamas ''Dollar Bill''Comments As ''Racist'':57%[and of these,44% were African-Americans]. Even Obama supporter Donna Brazile,like David Axelrod,caught in a moment of displaying honesty,asserted that Obama was using ''race'' in his campaign speeches and comments,nullifying Gergens position.

    • Posted By: mbailiff @ 08/04/2008 8:24:27 PM

      Obama made the same comments in speeches when he was running against Hillary Clinton in the primaries. Those statements from Obama helped to create the appearance that the Clinton's were racist which is one of the funniest and most absurd things that has ever been said about Bill Clinton and that is saying something.

      • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 08/04/2008 9:24:10 PM

        Bill will get vindicated in the end. We know he isn't a racist, even Obama and his supporters know. They know what Bill really meant, but in a political move, chose to imply racism in order to win votes, like any typical politician would.
        Hillary's problem was that she and her campaign actually thought Obama's campaign would play by his own set of rules of Post-Racial, Post-Partisan Transcendentalism. They got blind sided by the racial accusation, and couldn't recover until Obama made his own racial remark about "typical white person" and his "cling" gaffe. McCain's campaign learned early that Obama would play these games and called him out on it, at the best moment. Even Axlerod and Obama admitted that Obama was talking about race, when he talked about the Presidents on Dollar Bills, thank you Mr Obvious. Now Obama lost his race card, I'm sure his supporters and surrogates will try to play it any chance they get, but Obama can't make those kind of comments again because he knows it will further damage his credibility.

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