Yello, you still there.
Yello, you still there.
Interesting, If you didn't notice, I'm a demorcrat, born and raised. But if you are an independant, why are you defending Mccain so much?
I'm still here
How about we have an argument right here on the internet, no mudslinging(unless you have to) fact based argument. You in?
Sure, if you are still there. I took off to another site for a bit but am back. : - )
By the way, I am not Republican either. I am an Independent.
I was doing some research looking for info that illustrates what can impact the outcome of a race between a black man and a white man in the General Election this Fall, and I ran across these two segments of voters who will make up part of the overall voters going to the polls in November. So I thought I would share it with whomever might be interested in learning about these type of voters who will be voting in the Fall. With such a tight race between Obama and McCain I am thinking anything can happen between now and the GE as to how people will vote.
* The Bradley Effect on Votes
Did the Bradley Effect Beat Obama in New Hampshire?
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?bid=45&pid=268328
* The White Guilt Votes
The White Guilt Vote: A Key Obama Constituency Is White Racists
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/11/the_white_guilt.html
After reading this article everthing is starting to fit together, even Obamas ploys of subtly playing of the race card. . . .in June ( they will say I have a funny name, and did I mention I am black) and in July (reference to the difference of his looks to that of the faces found our dollar bills). .
If you have not seen this article (link below) that blogger grej posted somewhere on this site, you might want to read it. It is very well written and informative.. It provides readers with some insight into Obamas early political career. The time between his first campaign for the Illinois State Senate in 1995 and his race for U.S. Senate in 2004, which can fairly be called the LOST YEARS, the span of years that you never hear Obama talk about. The article reflects how he appears to be an old-fashioned, big government, Race-Conscious Liberal. Its long, but worth the read when you have some time. Scary stuff.
Weekly Standard
Barack Obamas Lost Years
by Stanley Kurtz
08/11/2008, Volume 013, Issue 45
The Senator Obamas tenure as a State legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
Article:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp?pg=1
Huachuca, I replied to your comments. Read if interested.
Ever wonder why David Axelrod isn't running for President? After all, he is the one responsible for Obamamania. He created Obama. He tells Obama what to say and think. He prepares Obama's speeches. Obama is the smoke and mirrors Axelrod is the wizard behing the curtain. AXELROD for president!!!!!!!
I keep asking where is axelrod? I haven't seen him in a lown time. axelrod, where are you?
Besides,
Mumble, bicker, snarl mumble, bicker, snarl, bicker, snarl mumble, bicker, snarl, bicker, snarl mumble, bicker, snarl, bicker, snarl mumble, bicker, snarl, bicker, snarl mumble, bicker, snarl, bicker, snarl mumble, bicker, snarl, bicker, snarl mumble, bicker, snarl, and your whole dam family.
Okay?
Anthony Afterwit, you need to go to school and learn how to express yourself.
When it comes to partisan politics, lets just take a look at Congress. At one time this decade, Congress had an approval rating greater than the President's rating. Since changing control of both houses over to the Democrats, the Congress approval rating has dropped to much due to partisan politics that President Bush enjoys a rating three (3) times greater than Congress.
The mantra of the Democrat presidential candidate seems to consistently be CHANGE, but we don't have a true definition of CHANGE. November 2006; control of Congress changed from the Republicans to the Democrats, Nancy Pelosi took control and all the committee chairs CHANGED. Did we have CHANGE? Gasoline went from $2.35 to $4.25; food has skyrocketed; the stock market has plummeted into bear territory, the mortgage market is in shambles, Pelosi changed from a small government plane to a jet fuel guzzling 747 so she could take more people with her on boondoggles. Barack wants to change the war from Iraq to Afghanistan. The Democrats went on vacation before dealing with the energy crisis, proving that they only care about themselves and not the little people they are supposed to represent (who can???t afford to go on vacation due to high energy costs)
High road my butt. McCain is a dirty, dishonest, creep.
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There, now.
If you thought this was going to be a campaign free of the usual partisan bickering, I've got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
American politics has always been about mud. The winner will always be, not the one who throws the most mud, but the one who dodges the most mud.
Right now McCain is throwing more mud, and Obama is doing a middling job of dodging it.
If Obama was really smart, he would get a hose and clean himself off, instead of wasting time dodging the mud, or even worse, throwing mud himself.
He needs to say something to the effect of - "See? Poor John McCain can't talk about the issues because he's on the wrong side of most of them. (I won't throw mud at poor John, he is too feeble now to defend himself). He is so desperate that he brought in the Bush team to run his campaign, and all they know how to do is sling mud. (More of the same - aren't you tired of 8 years of war and bad economics?) But as the Face of Change, I want to talk about what the American people want to hear - the issues and how we go forward."
Get a hose, Barack. A great big fire hose, and wash off the mud.
For all the Hopium addicted obamamohammeds, frantically trying to discredit, Dr. Corsi and "Obama Nation". Hussein "cousin" Odinga is a thug. Is a Communist. Is in deep with the Radical Islamists. Is Anti-American. Here is a bit from TIME........................
The Trouble with Odinga..................TIME online Aug. 03, 2008
Ever since Kenya became independent two years ago, Jomo Kenyatta's rallying cry has been harambee -Swahili for "all pull together." Most Kenyans have been quite happy to put aside their tribal and political rivalries and give pulling together a try. The notable exception: Oginga Odinga, 54, Vice President of the nation, deputy president of its only political party and leader of the powerful Luo tribe. A wealthy and ambitious leftist who disagrees violently with Kenyatta's moderate policies, Odinga has spent the past two years trying to pull his own government apart.
He has attempted to import Communist arms, has received both money and ad vice from Communist diplomats, has at tacked fellow Cabinet ministers as "imperialist agents."
More from TIME..............................
It was a startling allegation. "Arms and ammunition," charged National Assemblyman Thomas Malinda, "are continuously being smuggled from Communist and other foreign countries into Kenya for the purpose of staging an armed revolution to overthrow our beloved government." The charge brought a quick denial from Security Minister Njoroge Mungai, who admitted, however, that "many people have been trained in the armed forces of other countries and the first we know about it is when they get back."
Whether smuggling was involved or not, the recent exchange brought to the surface the conflict that has long been raging within the government of President Jomo Kenyatta. Vice President Oginga Odinga, wealthy, 53-year-old leader of the Luo tribe, which forms an important part of Kenyatta's KANU party coalition, has been openly attempting to turn the new nation toward Communism
AND as I told ya'll months ago....it got so bad, the U.S. State Dept. asked Sen. Obama to intercede........
CBS NEWS....................The Associated Press reports that Obama has spoken to Kenyan opposition leader Raila Odinga to "express grave concerns over the election's outcome," according to Odinga's spokesperson, who added that the Democratic hopeful also plans to call Kenyan president Mwai Kibaki.
Obama, who has discussed the situation with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, has also recorded a message urging an end to the violence for broadcast on Voice of America radio.
Twist it, turn it.......shake it, bake it..............hip or hop it..........READ THE TRUTH..........""OBAMA NATION"
Hussein Obama is a crook and a fraud.
NOBAMA!!!
My response to Posted By: saxxon_domela @ 08/02/2008 6:29:26 PM
Saxxon_domela,
You said that the Spears/Hilton ad that was released a few days back was a racist ad? How so? Could you please explain?
To me, the Britney/Paris ad was an ad that was focused on promoting what has become a pure love fest by the media and supporters with Obama; to the point that they cannot get enough of him. This is also the case for the two celebrities they picked to portray in the ad. Although they probably got two messages to radiate out of that ad by using Spears/Hilton, with the other message being that these two celebrities also feed off of the adulation they get from their fans and the MainStreamMedia like you know who. LOL.
WHY is it bad that people like Obama? I know your totaly for one we hate like Bush or McShame.
I like the man behind the curtains not the smoke and mirrors. Axelrod for POTUS!!!!!
Comment: John McShame has taken the election to a new low. I look at Obama ad's and he is talking about the issues, I look at McShame's ad's and he is talking about Obama.
I'm just out right tired of the same old attack, attack, attack. Even if I was not pro-Obama I would not vote for McSame based on how he runs his campaign. I have more respect for the Presidency then that!
If you love the hype and mania I'd suggest you write in the man responsible. David Axelrod for President 08
After all, we need an American Idol not a commander and chief.
The GOP would rather you like McCain, because he seems so solidly 'old school'...so wonderfully patriotic, after all he has been in Washington for 25 years...he was a pilot (logged a whole 20 hours of flying) during Vietnam. Well, here are some facts, since the GOP doesn't like to deal in those:
McCain graduated from college at the BOTTOM of his class: 894th out of 899th. That alone makes it easy to see why he can't keep the factions and politics of the middle east strait when talks about them. It also explains why he says he doesn't know much about the economy...I certainly believe it!
McCain on Family values: After returning from Vietnam, he finds that his wife has been disabled in a car crash. While still married and living with his 1st wife in 1979 he was, according to The New York Times, ???aggressively courting a 25-year-old woman who was as beautiful as she was rich.??? (McCain then divorced his wife, who had raised their three children alone while he was imprisoned in Vietnam, and launched his political career with his new wife???s family money.)
McCain on the Economy:
- In December 07 he said, "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should."
- In January 08 he said, ???I don???t believe we???re headed into a recession,??? he said, ???I believe the fundamentals of this economy are strong and I believe they will remain strong.???
- In March 08 he said, "I will not play election year politics with the housing crisis," adding, "I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers." - Guess it's not his problem if thousands of Americans become homeless thanks to deregulations in the mortgage industry (which were supported by McCain).
- In April 08 when asked about the state of the economy, "I???m very concerned about it, Neil. And obviously the way it???s been going up is just terrible. But I think psychologically ??? and a lot of our problems today, as you know, are psychological ??? the confidence, trust, the uncertainty about our economic future, ability to keep our own home."
- In April 08 when asked about why he supported the gas tax holiday, "This might give them a little psychological boost. Let???s have some straight talk, it???s not a huge amount of money"
McCain on Taxation:
- In 2001 he argued AGAINST Bush's tax cuts saying, "I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle class Americans who most need tax relief."
- In 2006 he said, "The tax cuts are now there, and voting to revoke them would have been to -- not to extend them would have meant a tax increase." Even tax-cutting advocates who cheered McCain's reversal could not help but call it what it was: "It's a big flip-flop," said conservative moveme
The GOP would rather you like McCain, because he seems so solidly 'old school'...so wonderfully patriotic, after all he has been in Washington for 25 years...he was a pilot (logged a whole 20 hours of flying) during Vietnam. Well, here are some facts, since the GOP doesn't like to deal in those:
McCain graduated from college at the BOTTOM of his class: 894th out of 899th. That alone makes it easy to see why he can't keep the factions and politics of the middle east strait when talks about them. It also explains why he says he doesn't know much about the economy...I certainly believe it!
McCain on Family values: After returning from Vietnam, he finds that his wife has been disabled in a car crash. While still married and living with his 1st wife in 1979 he was, according to The New York Times, ???aggressively courting a 25-year-old woman who was as beautiful as she was rich.??? (McCain then divorced his wife, who had raised their three children alone while he was imprisoned in Vietnam, and launched his political career with his new wife???s family money.)
McCain on the Economy:
- In December 07 he said, "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should."
- In January 08 he said, ???I don???t believe we???re headed into a recession,??? he said, ???I believe the fundamentals of this economy are strong and I believe they will remain strong.???
- In March 08 he said, "I will not play election year politics with the housing crisis," adding, "I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers." - Guess it's not his problem if thousands of Americans become homeless thanks to deregulations in the mortgage industry (which were supported by McCain).
- In April 08 when asked about the state of the economy, "I???m very concerned about it, Neil. And obviously the way it???s been going up is just terrible. But I think psychologically ??? and a lot of our problems today, as you know, are psychological ??? the confidence, trust, the uncertainty about our economic future, ability to keep our own home."
- In April 08 when asked about why he supported the gas tax holiday, "This might give them a little psychological boost. Let???s have some straight talk, it???s not a huge amount of money"
McCain on Taxation:
- In 2001 he argued AGAINST Bush's tax cuts saying, "I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle class Americans who most need tax relief."
- In 2006 he said, "The tax cuts are now there, and voting to revoke them would have been to -- not to extend them would have meant a tax increase." Even tax-cutting advocates who cheered McCain's reversal could not help but call it what it was: "It's a big flip-flop," said conservative moveme
Republican reporter can't help resort to this comments on John McCain ...I'M TOTALLY AGREED WITH HIS MOTHER to said publicly that indeed that JOHN McCain is plain Stupid.
"For a man who will turn 72 this month, he's a surprisingly immature politician,erratic, impulsive and subject to peer pressure from the last knucklehead who offers him advice. The youthful insouciance that for many years has helped McCain charm reporters like me is now channeled into an ad that one GOP strategist labeled "juvenile," another termed "childish" and McCain's own mother called "stupid."
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