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  • Posted By: annilie @ 08/05/2008 1:44:06 PM

    I am a full-blooded, card-carrying-absentee-voting American woman living in Scandinavian for the past 10 years. I have a lot to be proud of in the USA, but the way we have abandoned one another in the critical area of health care is not one of them. I have no desire to turn the USA into a socialist democracy, but there are definitely ways that EVERYONE in the US can have health care without running up our collective debt or individual tax bills. Emergency room care costs 200% more than preventative care. Think about it .

    • Posted By: Papo29 @ 08/05/2008 2:04:33 PM

      Annielie, Im also an American living in Germany and Im NOT turning back to the USA to live under such a humiliating society. The people, nor the government have a common understanding of how important health care is. They go on a tangent indicating that governement control this and that is bad, but why is it that other nations in Europe and in their own back yard in Canada are not suffering. Doctors and nurses live comfortable and fully compensated lives for their work. But it all boils down to greed on their behalf.

  • Posted By: SWVA/Tony @ 08/05/2008 2:00:24 PM

    Wow.. That was a great comment poggy. You are obviously just as naive and ignorant as Andrea Mitchell regarding this area. This area has great potential and you should thank us for being able to turn your lights on. These are the people who risk their lives under ground to mine the coal our nation uses for energy. Everyone seems to be talking about dependency on foreign oil and how to stop it. We have one of the answers right here in Southwestern Virginia with our natural resources. We are very bright individuals and yes We do VOTE.

  • Posted By: tangledsynapses. @ 08/05/2008 1:59:53 PM

    Kudos for Newsweek for bringing this type or articles to the limelight. The more people know how others struggle, the more social consciousness is developed and ultimately, we can elect people that really have the political drive to do something for those less fortunate. Back in 1993, Hillary Clinton got crucified for just thinking about changing an obsolete and greedy medical system. 15 years later, things got worse, but no better. Many people wonder.

  • Posted By: poggy @ 08/05/2008 1:34:39 PM

    And these are probably the same people who care more about flag burning and vote republican, rather than try to get affordable universal health care coverage.

    • Posted By: katpri @ 08/05/2008 1:59:48 PM

      WOW. Well not everyone can be as smart as say, someone like YOU, poggy....however, no one deserves to be denied to affordable healthcare.

    • Posted By: katpri @ 08/05/2008 1:54:28 PM

      Face it, not everyone is as smart as say, someone like YOU, however, no one deserves to not have access to affordable health care.

  • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/05/2008 12:25:56 PM

    Emilli... Europeans pay way less than americans do for their health care systeme. A visit to a generalist in france is only 21 euros and we have excellent doctors. that's what so many of you do not understand... also, we have no deductible.

    • Posted By: Emilli @ 08/05/2008 12:28:53 PM

      That wasnt my question what happens to you if you refuse to pay?

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/05/2008 1:57:35 PM

        I'm assuming the same thing would happen that happens here if you refuse to pay the government (i.e. taxes, student loans,etc)--they garnish your wages and take it!

  • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/05/2008 12:28:45 PM

    If Universal health care was so bad, do you really believe europeans would have it??? No one in europe would want it any other way.. so before you start criticizing, educate yourselves.

    • Posted By: 20something @ 08/05/2008 12:44:37 PM

      Actually I do know europeans who would like to get rid of universal health care... so unless you've met all europeans, don't go making a blanket statement. Educate yourself before you tell others the same. Particularly go and find the european doctors that have found themselves forced to go on strike... talk to them for a while and get yourself some education in the process.

      If you like your system, go back to it, no one's keeping you in the US. Just don't try forcing it on us. If you like the government raising your kids, spending your money, and taking care of your whole lives, that's fine. Just don't push it on me.

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/05/2008 1:56:26 PM

        Um, the government is already doing that for us here...at least we'd get something from them in return!

    • Posted By: FATJOEY @ 08/05/2008 12:32:05 PM

      yeah look at russia!!! oh uh bad example i guess huh???

  • Posted By: randel101 @ 08/05/2008 1:55:27 PM

    In 1951 it cost $3.00 to get one of my teeth filled and that was without insurance. It was 6% of my fathers weekly income. In 1985 it cost me $85.00 out of pocket 20% co-payment to have another tooth filled. This amounted to about 20% of my weekly income not figuring in my dental insurance costs. Can anyone explain to me why it costs so much more today even with insurance than it did in the past without any insurence. It seems to me that the middle man (the insurance companies) is the tail that is wagging the dog. They are dictating proceedures, medications, and treatments to doctors by establishing payment allowances and treatment coverage all the while raking in hugh profits. If you don't belive their profitability just follow the money, the insurance industry is the largest holder of capital of any other industry. They have infiltrated our government with lobying and mandated by law in many cases that individuals must pay for insurance. This makes them legalized extorsionists no different than the protection rackets of the past. The medical profession is in their pocket also by using mal-practice insurance costs as an excuse to justify and inflate medical treatment costs. The reality of it is, it's business as usual and we aren't gonna change anything.

  • Posted By: Papo29 @ 08/05/2008 1:53:49 PM

    America, YOU OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF! Its disgusting to see how the so called "greatest nation of the world" DOES NOT take care of its people. Plain unexcusable!

  • Posted By: drewzon @ 08/05/2008 1:53:18 PM

    It's time for our government to step up to the plate and give our people universal healthcare. To say we can't afford this is nonsense. We always have enough money to get into wars around the world where we don't belong.

  • Posted By: wildlifeusa @ 08/05/2008 12:34:50 PM

    It is your gouverment who is *** e d up.. It does not care for the american people, period. you are rich you live, you are poor you die... what horrible mentality.. At least socialism offers major programs to protect their citizens' health which is the way it should be.

    • Posted By: Steven579 @ 08/05/2008 12:41:07 PM

      In Eurpoe not America. We call that Communism we have fought wars to prevent it and would fight to prevent it still dont like it piss off we dont need the crap or people who support it

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/05/2008 1:53:13 PM

        Uh, no we don't call it Communism, unless you're calling Canada, England, France, etc. communists...

    • Posted By: FATJOEY @ 08/05/2008 12:40:19 PM

      YEAH RUSSIA ,NOW THERES A BASTIAN OF FANTASTIC HEALTH CARE!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  • Posted By: sandyatwrk @ 08/05/2008 1:50:28 PM

    Can you imagine how much good could have come, if we had directed all the money wasted on the presidential campaign to funding health care for our poor and uninsured. Although the promises for a solution are always given during the elections,; our country has yet to see any results. So lets eliminate the middle man and earmark those tax dollars to projects like this instead.

  • Posted By: SouthWest @ 08/05/2008 1:49:48 PM

    I live in the area where the treatment was given. Although I myself have health insurance and was not required to stand in the long lines on a hot summer day, I did witness some of the people coming to be treated and what they went through. Most were friends and neighbors of mine who through no fault of their own have been reduced by economic situations to this type of treatment. It is sad to see people suffer like this anywhere, but when you live in the greatest and richest country in the world it is just plan stupid.
    What has happened both to the government and the people of this great nation? Help 1 day a year is not going to turn this around. Where is the tax dollars that are needed to turn this around?
    I was not in the line on that hot summer day waiting on health treatment, but who???s to say I won???t be tomorrow or for that fact you won???t be. Now is the time to become proactive in your life not inactive.
    Concerned Southwest Virginia Native

    GLK

  • Posted By: jayrkay @ 08/05/2008 1:47:50 PM


    Dental care has never been a part of Total Health care. Even Medicare does not offer dental care. Being a physician, Teeth and mouth are part of a human body and many diseases may originate from gum and teeth. It is a well known fact that even dental cleaning requires antibiotics started a day before and after in certain patients with heart condition, yet this simple preventive dental care is not part of health insurance.

    Though I have Medicare, I do not carry DENTAL CARE INSURANCE.Fortunately, all my teeth are intact,clean with no cavities. A little ounce of dental care since childhood(instilled by my illeterate mother), has saved my teeth and gums.

    Dental care insurance is very expensive, but it should be made part of total health care. Every person uses the teeth in daily activity of eating and may induce an infection either in the gum and teeth or infection in the body.

    Even if one has dental insurance, prevention is the only way to reduce dental diseases.

  • Posted By: Tired of Politics @ 08/05/2008 12:52:14 PM

    I work in a doctor's office and would like to clarify a couple of points in this article & respond to a few comments posted below.

    1.) Doctor's don't deny Medicaid patients only because of the low reimbursement rate. Many times, there is no reimbursement at all. I spend 20-25 hours of a 50 hour work week appealing denied Medicare/Medicaid claims. We are told that the patient is eligible for treatment at the time of service and 8-10 weeks later receive a denied coverage notice. In many cases, the doctor can not go after the patient for the money, and when we can, the patient can't afford to pay. The doctor is forced to write-off the account as a loss. If this is what universal health care will be like. You'd better believe I don't want it

    2) Although "Tired of the Whining" was tacky and crass in his generic comments, there are a few individuals who leave a bad taste in the mouth. I have watched patients snub out a cigarette to walk into the office and then complain they can't afford the Medicaid copay. Or worse, I've seen a few in the casino dropping 20's, but who claim they can't put food on the table. It's these few who give all a bad name. To those who struggle to get by, but do it fairly and honestly, I'm much more willing to cut some slack and set up monthly payment schedules that fit into the budget.

    3) Contrary to popular belief, most doctors are not in this to get rich. They have a general love of the practice and a genuine desire to help others. Insurance companies are the ones getting rich. I have seen what others have posted that they pay per month in premiums. I can honestly say that most of that money is never seen by a doctor..

    Congress set up the HMO's years ago and look where it got us. If they can't manage the few that are on assisted income now, how do you think Universal Health Care will ever benefit us?

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 08/05/2008 1:47:14 PM

      I understand your frustration with Medicaid. We have all seen abusers of the system, but that doesn't mean the system is bad. Sure, there are people on Medicaid that probably don't deserve it, but there are also people out there that DO need it. Think of all the kids or disabled it helps. Think of all the elderly that Medicare helps. For once, Americans should look to Europe as a model instead of thinking we're right all the time. Universal health care has worked very well for years in multiple other countries, and it will work here if given the chance.

  • Posted By: FATJOEY @ 08/05/2008 1:14:12 PM

    STOP ALL FORIEGN AID!! USE THAT MONEY FOR HEALTH,WHO CARES IF THEY'RE STARVING IN AFRICA,CHARITY STARTS AT HOME!!!

  • Posted By: Hard_H2O @ 08/05/2008 1:46:16 PM

    Look into the history of these areas and there inbred distrust of the government and you will see more why these people do not have health care.

    The one quoted as saying that fillings are bad and they should just pull them is symptomatic of the lack of education that comes about by their independant lifestyle.

    You live in the sticks you are not going to have ready access that those of us who live in the modern world take for granted.

  • Posted By: Tired of Politics @ 08/05/2008 1:44:30 PM

    Since so many have used this post as an excuse to wail against the War in Iraq as the excuse for not having universal health care, I offer this challenge:

    Visit www1.va.gov/homeless and click on the Stand Down link. This is a list of every Stand Down for homeless vets held in the country. These events provide homeless/nearly homeless veterans with medical/dental/vision care, food, clothing, and the chance for human interaction.

    Even if you don't support this war, please support our troops. Even if you can't afford to volunteer food or money, you can volunteer your time. These men and women not only need our help, they have earned it.

  • Posted By: pattymac @ 08/05/2008 1:38:01 PM

    How is it possible to ignore situations like this in America?

    • Posted By: Mark in Texas @ 08/05/2008 1:43:48 PM

      What are you doing about it pattymac?

  • Posted By: bookworm in Iowa @ 08/05/2008 1:43:21 PM

    The problem isn't that we need universal health care. The problem is that we need to get rid of the health insurance that we do have. When no one had insurance (including and especially medicare) then people could afford health care because physicians and hospitals had to anwer directly to the patients. What we have now is an expensive overblown mess because the government and the healthcare providers, trying to make things better, have made things worse.

  • Posted By: jamesn8000 @ 08/05/2008 11:33:35 AM

    I am disgusted by the comments that suggest all of our health care woes will be fixed by federally mandated programs. People just do not understand what nationalized health care means. The scenario that is described in this article is exactly what will happen when we nationalize health care. Despite all of the "wonders" of nationalized health care described by many, I have seen first hand the poor quality that you get in Germany and other countries in Europe. I bet most people did not know that most citizens in Germany still pay for insurance to cover things like dentures that would take years to get if you waited in the national health program. How about all of the private hospitals and clinics people pay to go to there because the care is 100 times better than at the public hospital. Every country that has nationalized health care also has a private health system so you still have a separation of classes for those who can pay and those who cannot. If you don???t think that will happen here, think again. If someone is a good doctor and has $100k in student loans from medical school, do you really think this person is going to work in a public hospital where the pay will be significantly less than in a private enterprise? Think again. Supporters of nationalized health care need to get a reality check.

    • Posted By: CSSinGA @ 08/05/2008 1:41:42 PM

      Well, I look at it this way. In those countries you mentioned, the poor people still had access to some kind of care, even if they are forced to wait for their dentures. In this country, you are SOL. Something is better than nothing.

      Your comment about the horrendous costs of med school are right on the money. But, being a populist by nature, my first inclination is to write off those loans for doctors who work in unpriviledged areas. Much as critical shortage area teachers are getting a break on their graduate-level school loans. Perhaps if doctors weren't burdened by 100s of 1000s of dollars of student loan debt, then they could afford to treat the citizenry who utilize public hospitals.

    • Posted By: CSSinGA @ 08/05/2008 1:40:40 PM

      Well, I look at it this way. In those countries you mentioned, the poor people still had access to some kind of care, even if they are forced to wait for their dentures. In this country, you are SOL. Something is better than nothing.

      Your comment about the horrendous costs of med school are right on the money. But, being a populist by nature, my first inclination is to write off those loans for doctors who work in unpriviledged areas. Much as critical shortage area teachers are getting a break on their graduate-level school loans. Perhaps if doctors weren't burdened by 100s of 1000s of dollars of student loan debt, then they could afford to treat the citizenry who utilize public hospitals.

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