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Barack's Beliefs

The conservative author of a new book about Obama's faith discusses why the candidate could appeal to evangelicals.

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  • Posted By: pezled @ 08/11/2008 9:04:34 AM

    Barack's beliefs depend on the day of the week and which audience he is talking to. He is just another old traveling huckster with a brand of snake oil to sell that he calls "change." Whether his blood is white, black or blue - he is just another same-old politician full of flip flops. Trying to pin solid beliefs on him is like trying to herd earthworms with a pitchfork.

    • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 08/11/2008 3:53:08 PM

      Maybe his blood is red.

      • Posted By: bohdansz @ 12/21/2008 2:38:12 AM

        What matters is the soul, not blood. Obama's soul is pitch black!

        • Posted By: 40YearR @ 12/22/2008 12:57:02 PM

          "Obama's soul is pitch black!" What you are doing here is called projecting.

  • Posted By: drjejavu @ 09/10/2008 12:44:09 PM

    It is the intolerance of other opinions, ideas, lifestyles, etc. that creates fascist states. This is the biggest single threat to our democracy.

    • Posted By: bohdansz @ 12/21/2008 2:34:37 AM

      Sorry, drejavu, often intoleration saves humanity. Remember the people who died horrible death refusing to tolerate hitler. That's a blessed "intoleration" Those people were heroes because of intoleration!

  • Posted By: bohdansz @ 12/21/2008 2:30:22 AM

    One thing is having "character flaws" and "being sinners": we all have; we all are. Another thing is chosing the agenda of the devil and masquerading as "God worshipper." Abortion choice agenda is diabolical! Obama is not a Christian, until he renounces that agenda!

  • Posted By: bohdansz @ 12/21/2008 2:24:13 AM

    No, Jessica Ramirez. Obama joined a community of secular humanists, killers of the unborn, masquerading for a "Christian Trinity church"! You read the Bible, Jessica, and and you will find that the Trinity, One God, is staunchly against any choice of abortion! That's not what the pseudo-Trinity church preaches! Obama has chosen evil, not God!

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 08/26/2008 8:06:21 PM

    On the day of the announcement of his selection to be the Democratic nominee for vice-President, Joe Biden was quick to go on attack and use the Bush clone metaphor in describing John McCain. Cloning of course involves copying genes. Issues involving clones, copying and plagiarism seem to be recurrent themes in the life of Joe Biden. It has been reported that Joe Biden withdrew from his 1987 Presidential primary race against George Dukakis and Dick Gephardt due to reports of plagiarism of a speech by Neil Kinnock a former British Labor Party leader. More damaging are reports that during his first year at Syracuse University Law School, Joe Biden lifted five pages of material out of a total fifteen page legal research and writing class memo from a Fordham Law Review article. Joe Biden received a grade of F in the legal research and writing course and had to repeat it the following semester. Copying and mimicking behavior is sometimes said to be the sincerest form of flattery but plagiarism falls into a special category of a backhanded compliment because it implies a disdain for the original author and your audience. Did Joe Biden believe that none of his professors would take the time to look up his citations or have read or be familiar with the Fordham law review article on his topic product liability. Many Catholics would be offended that a fellow Irish Catholic like Joe Biden would use Fordham Law Review an academic product of his own faith to commit plagiarism.

    • Posted By: drjejavu @ 09/10/2008 1:10:36 PM

      ...and McCain committed adultery......it becomes easy to find character flaws in everyone if that is one's focus....."let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

  • Posted By: brightfame @ 09/09/2008 8:00:02 AM

    Let's just cut through the fluff and summarize: Barack Obama is the type of "Christian" who accepts the parts of the Bible he likes and ignores the parts he doesn't, which apparently includes at least some of the Ten Commandments ("Thou shalt not kill," for example, as applied to newborn babies). Now THAT is one convenient religion!

    • Posted By: drjejavu @ 09/10/2008 12:55:11 PM

      What about the parts of the Bible that condone slavery, state that premarital sex by females is punishable by death and that men are allowed to sell their female children into sexual slavery? Either the Bible literal or its not. Anyone that doesn't except every part as literal is picking and choosing which parts to accept as literal and which parts not to accept. Which kind are you? By the way, the Bible says the earth is flat....I'm not going with literal on that one.

  • Posted By: kathylibbey @ 09/10/2008 5:43:25 AM

    Just what in the heck did happen to the separation of church and state? First the churches in my community get together and decide to stop a law that would allow restaurants to serve alcohol by pressuring their congregations to vote against it, and then they bused them to the polls to be sure they voted how they wanted them to. It is sad when laws can be determined by a little religious pressure and a lot of buses. I say this because many of those who went along with their churches, told me later that they really did not want to vote against it, but they were afraid not to.
    Now one of the biggest issues in this election seems to be what religion the candidates follow. We have become a country of zombies, brainless followers, or something like it.
    Yes Obama may not have the same religious belief as you, but then does Palin, and who cares unless it will be used against you?
    So go ahead and vote for McCain and Palin, a senile old man and his beauty queen play thing. Because the truth is there is still a racist mentality in this country, and there are still a lot of women who are going to vote Republican just because there is a woman on the ticket. But get real, this woman is not a soccer mom. She has no compassion for you. She hunts and kills for the fun of it, and she would easily abandon an infant for a career when she does not have to. Most women I know would not want to leave their tiny infant if they could afford to stay home until the baby was older. This woman wants to destroy women's rights not further them. She has abused her powers in her career, and will continue to force her ideas on others. She is a self-righteous religious fanatic who believes that only her way can be right, and at least Obama isn't pushing his religious beliefs on us. This country was formed on the idea that people should be allowed to think for themselves and believe as they wish. I do not see Palin supporting that belief. As for McCain, well he is a rich man who thinks it is fine to own so many houses he can???t remember the number. He will not stop helping the rich get richer, while the rest of us struggle to survive. The old Republican idea of, by helping Corporate America you help the little guy, does not work any more. It only worked when those at the top cared about those at the bottom. I have news for you, those guys don't care anymore. They want their many houses and their mega-retirement packages, and they will have them at our expense. But you go ahead and vote Republican, because it would be better than taking a chance on Obama and Biden. But don't complain about it when the next 4 years are more of the same. Oh and if you happen to be one of the few non-racist "thinking people" who actually might be voting for McCain/Palin because you honestly support their views, then this is not directed at you. However, I would ask you to think about what I said about the Republican ideas no longer working; because they really aren't you know.

    • Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 09/10/2008 9:39:52 AM

      Sort of how Barry's campaign registered anyone that could write thier name and then bused them to the primaries.......Stings a little, doesn't it?

  • Posted By: b in seattle @ 09/09/2008 4:18:59 PM

    I think Obama is a religious nut, and that his church is racist. I was shocked that a Democrat would endorse faith-based initiatives. So much for separation of church and state! I'm breaking from my party and voting Republican this year, because at least I know where they stand.

  • Posted By: unoga @ 09/09/2008 12:55:47 PM

    Obama is a Godless Marxist-Socialist!

  • Posted By: al312 @ 09/09/2008 12:04:04 PM

    To Brightfame: Abortion is not about killing newborn babies you ignoramus!! It ends the life that an unborn EMBRYO or possibly FETUS could have had if the pregnancy were continued. I hope nobody you ever know is brutally raped by someone and forced to keep the devil spawn's child by newly elected Supreme court justices who try to overturn Roe V. Wade. This is what McCain and Palin want. Imagine feeling this baby kick inside of you and the emotional mess that would be you for the rest of your life because someone said you didn't have the right to make decisions for yourself. I don't understand the religious who put the rights of something not granted rights by our Constitution because it is still just a mass of cells converging and is not yet a human being above the rights of a young woman alive and voting in this country.

  • Posted By: osamaobama jr @ 08/24/2008 10:45:03 PM

    This phony piece of chit muzzie "converted" as a matter of political expediency.....he's not Christian....he's a mulatto muzzie piece of slime......

    He can't be elected president of the U.S.A......no, not a muzzie president.

    • Posted By: Alegna57 @ 08/27/2008 1:41:12 PM

      Oh you racist slime american..you are so filty...did you know that when you die you have nothing to say when they lay a black man next to you????hahahahaha

  • Posted By: airforcemom @ 08/25/2008 1:12:37 PM

    osamaobama jr


    you sir a racist idiot

  • Posted By: repub4obama @ 08/19/2008 3:55:37 PM

    I can't believe McCain has sold out to the right wing conservative platform. You want to talk about beliefs, what about the belief in democracy. McCain and the typical right wing conservative Bush clan want to defy the democratic will of the people of Iraq for a American troop withdrawl. Talk about fascism at it's worst(which is the conservative ideal) . And the McBush clan has the balls to Scold Russia for invading Georgia after what they did and are currently doing in Iraq and about to do in Iran if were not careful, just shows how out of touch they are in the global politics game and why Americans are hated so abroad.
    Save America kill a conservative

    • Posted By: faminchin @ 08/19/2008 9:00:00 PM

      What an odd perspective. You see conseratives, fellow americans, as the people that need to be "killed"..........while advocating the survivial of radical islamist terrorists in Iraq by withdrawing our troops. I don't quite know how to respond the this kind of stupidity?

      Typical Democrat though, claiming to be the party of tolerance, while calling for the total destruction of anybody that has an opposing view.

      • Posted By: repub4obama @ 08/20/2008 10:39:20 AM

        LOL typical democrat? I'm a republican who is pissed off at how the right wing conservatives have taken over the republican party and are destroying it's name. I agree much with Gov. Schwartzenager on his take on the republcans and how change is needed, I.e. lose the right wing nut bag conservatives. I'm tryibng to save the republican party ignoramus. My name repub 4 obama didn't give you a clue that I'm not democratic. I've vote repub since '88. Get a clue

        • Posted By: bojack27 @ 08/20/2008 11:10:37 AM

          Ok I will bite..... what caused you to turn against the Republican Party and why do you feel the the Democratic party is the right party now since you have voted republican since 1988 and they have always supported the religious right?

          • Posted By: osamaobama jr @ 08/24/2008 10:46:50 PM

            CAUSE AH WANTS TA BOTE FO OSAMA

          • Posted By: repub4obama @ 08/20/2008 11:37:47 AM

            The economy and how all their policies benefit the rich and screw over the middle class. Sorry I'm not a rich f*ck, and I need to work in order to survive. The right wing conservatives who have hijacked the republican party are only out to screw over the middle class. I identify with the republicans who are moderate, I'm really an independant now, until the true republican party realize they need to cut ties with these whacked out right wing conservatives, all they do is lie and distort the truth and are destroying America.
            Save America kill a conservative.

            • Posted By: faminchin @ 08/20/2008 1:56:21 PM

              Your are as Republican as John Kerry...........no matter what you say, you make that obvious. So you can play your game of pretending to be a Republican that has turned to Obama to save the world all you want, but your not very good at it.

              PS: Your call to "Kill Conseratives" says all I care to know about you!

              • Posted By: repub4obama @ 08/20/2008 4:37:18 PM

                Yawn, typical right wing conservative whack job response. You guys really got to come up with something else but the ssame boring dribble. Your no fun at all.

        • Posted By: faminchin @ 08/20/2008 2:02:44 PM

          Your as Republican as Hilary Clinton......so you can claim what you want, but your posts make it obvious that your a troll and "typical democrat", attempting to pass yourself off as something your not.

          So vote for Obama, that's your right.........and hopefully as our taxes go up and the government takes even more money out of everybody's pocket, you will some how become rich...lol (Of course rich being defined by your canidate as people who earn $150,000 and up)

          • Posted By: repub4obama @ 08/20/2008 4:36:17 PM

            Yawn, typical right wing conservative whack job bullsh*t response

  • Posted By: ptcruiserblue @ 08/22/2008 9:23:33 AM

    Obama is getting scrutinized because he attended a church with the likes of Jeremiah Wright as Pastor. I had enormous concerns about that....However, if we're going to scrutinized Obama, let's find out about McCain's religious beliefs and how much of a church goer, believer, he is. I haven't decided who to vote for yet but it would be nice to get a balanced view of both candidates on every subject.

    • Posted By: faminchin @ 08/22/2008 10:40:23 AM

      It appears to me that Obama is the one that is trying to center attention on his religious beliefs. Obama himself is the one that continues to bring up his religion. I haven't heard McCain talk about his religious beliefs and nobody is asking him, because he isn't bringing it up. Obama on the other hand, doesn't pass up the chance to put his religion in the forefront.

  • Posted By: NoObamabot @ 08/09/2008 6:48:12 PM

    Obama's faith is based on hatred. It's superficial, stereotypical, and class and race-based and, as such, it's an abomination to Christ, an insult to Christians, and a bastardization of Christianity.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/11/2008 10:30:54 AM

      Who are you to judge if Obama's faith is filled with hate? You call his faith a bastardization of Christianity. Of course, an argument could be made that all Protestant faiths are a bastardization of Christianity, since they did break away from the original form of Christianity (Catholocism).

      • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/11/2008 1:55:47 PM

        raddave you need to read your bible more if you're gonna make statements like that. Find the catholic church in the bible. Not. The first church was in the upper room waiting for the coming of the Holy Spirit just after Christ's ascnetion. No catholics there buddy. After receiving the Holy Spirit they went out and began to evangelize. By todays description they'd be evanjelical christians. Yep, those of us you so loudly bash as right wingers and fascists.

        • Posted By: raddave @ 08/12/2008 12:07:52 AM

          No catholics there? St. Peter, the first Pope. Read the Gospel of Matthew, it says "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church. Peter, in the original Greek of the New Testament, is Petros, which means Rock. That is the basis for the Catholic Church being the original Christian Church.

          • Posted By: bojack27 @ 08/12/2008 11:34:41 AM

            Upon this rock "Only means upon the principle in which Peter spoke on about Jesus.... not Peter himself.... the foundation of the church was first laid by the Prophets and then the Apostles.... read below
            remember that Jesus.... not Peter.... is the Chief corner stone.....

            Eph.2
            [12] That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
            [13] But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
            [14] For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
            [15] Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
            [16] And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
            [17] And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
            [18] For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
            [19] Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
            [20] And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
            [21] In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
            [22] In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

            • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/13/2008 8:23:36 AM

              If Christ had intended to build the church on Peter, why use 2 different words? You're saying Christ built the church on Peter, and Peter was the Rock and Christ was the cornerstone, so Christ placed Peter above himself? Is that why Catholics believe Priests can grant absolution for sin? They believe that man, or the Pope, is above Christ who died?. Ephesians 5:23 clearly states that Christ, is the head of the Church. Don't get me wrong, I believe Peter was a great Apostle, he's the only one who followed Christ to the illegal trial, and the only one who got out of the boat. But do you also believe that Paul is greater than Peter? Paul wrote much more of the New Testament than Peter did, and openly rebuked Peter for forsaking the Gentiles when he refused to eat with them after James' emmisarries arrived in Antioch in Galations chapter 2.

              How do you believe a person gets to heaven and receives eternal life?

              • Posted By: bojack27 @ 08/18/2008 11:15:13 AM

                I think you have mis-read what I posted..... in no way do I believe that Peter is the Rock! I posted that Jesus wasn't talking about Peter but the principle concept that Jesus is the Christ the Son of the living God.... This is the Rock in which the church is built on and that Jesus is the chief cornerstone that holds everything together.... the prophets and apostles layed the foundation (which points toward or is Jesus) by preaching the revelations of God's word and the manefestation of that word in Christ Jesus.... I do agree that Peter was a great Apostle and that Paul was even greater in his outreach to the gentiles and others... the only Way to get to heaven is stated clearly in John 14:6 ....

                By the way I'm not Catholic .... I'm a non-denominational Christian.....

                • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/21/2008 1:02:38 PM

                  Yup,

                  I posted this in the wrong place. Sorry, Got your point 100% and agree with it.

          • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/12/2008 1:32:45 PM

            Christ also used a different term for Peter, it was stone, not rock,. When Christ said upon this Rock he used the word Rock, meaning himself. He built the church upon himself. Check it out.

            • Posted By: raddave @ 08/12/2008 11:59:46 PM

              No, it means that Peter is the foundation upon which would build his Church, thereby appointing Peter to head his church. Yes, Jesus is the Corner Stone of the Church, but the Church was built upon Peter.

              • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/13/2008 8:26:03 AM

                If Christ had intended to build the church on Peter, why use 2 different words? You're saying Christ built the church on Peter, and Peter was the Rock and Christ was the cornerstone, so Christ placed Peter above himself? Is that why Catholics believe Priests can grant absolution for sin? They believe that man, or the Pope, is above Christ who died?. Ephesians 5:23 clearly states that Christ, is the head of the Church. Don't get me wrong, I believe Peter was a great Apostle, he's the only one who followed Christ to the illegal trial, and the only one who got out of the boat. But do you also believe that Paul is greater than Peter? Paul wrote much more of the New Testament than Peter did, and openly rebuked Peter for forsaking the Gentiles when he refused to eat with them after James' emmisarries arrived in Antioch in Galations chapter 2.

                How do you believe a person gets to heaven and receives eternal life?

                • Posted By: raddave @ 08/14/2008 12:53:06 AM

                  Catholics do no believe that St. Peter is above Jesus, we believe that St. Peter was tasked by Jesus to lead his Church. on earth. Priests do not grant the absolution of sins, it comes from God, through the Priest. We as Catholics do not believe St. Paul is greater than St. Peter, as Peter was named by Jesus to head his Church.

                  A person can only get to heaven by being born again by water and spirit, baptism And yes, that means accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. Since most Catholics are baptized as an infant, he or she has a "sponsor" Their Godparents, who speak for the child and accept the responsibility for the child's religious education.

                  • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/14/2008 12:22:09 PM

                    Comment: I don't think baptism has any thing to do with it. Being born of the water is physical birth. If baptism is a requirement, what about the thief on the cross next to Jesus? He told him "today thou shalt be with me in paradise.

                    • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/14/2008 12:25:47 PM

                      I do think baptism is a sign of obedience, and an outward sign you have accepted Christ as Lord and Savior.

          • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/12/2008 1:39:54 PM

            To clarify Christ used the words thou art Peter or Petros, rock or rock man, and upon this rock or Petra I will build my church.

        • Posted By: raddave @ 08/12/2008 12:21:26 AM

          I bash Evangelicals as heretics.

  • Posted By: faminchin @ 08/19/2008 11:01:16 AM

    Personally, I think it is strange, that the same party that denounced Christians as being stupid morons for electing Bush twice, now attempts to lure the same Christian voters that it has shown nothing but distain for in the past, by attempting to pass their canidate off as a person of faith.

    Now I can not attest if Obama is truly a Christian or not, that is something that is between himself and God.....................I just find it amusing that the same Democrats that express hatred for Bush because of his faith, now find Obama acceptable because he claims to share the same faith.

    • Posted By: repub4obama @ 08/20/2008 10:42:25 AM

      Why don't you talk more sh*t out of your ass you idiot right wing conservative whack job.

  • Posted By: PatHenry @ 08/18/2008 11:31:29 PM

    At Saddleback, the central problem with Obama crystallized. The problem is not the result of extraneous causes. Over many months, legions of Democratic campaign advisers and staff have labored to present to the public a living invention of change and hope that will transcend the barriers of bureaucracy and Gordian knots of governance.

    Without the hindrance of any diplomatic purpose, the Obama European-Mid-Eastern tour elevated this invention to a global transcendence, replete with superficial majesty, and against stately backdrops of the selected hosts.

    But his problem is now exacerbated to the point of being inseparable: the absence of identity as a person and as a potential President. The office of President demands political clarity and practicable knowledge, not obscurity and transcendence.

    Admonishing others to avoid being influenced by his lack of resemblance to other Presidents on our currency was a memorable backdoor attempt at identity. Two out of the seven currency portraits we most often see are those of men who were never President. But they appear, nonetheless, because the greatness of their genius, contributions and statesmanship are the qualities that transcended the personal identity they may have had when they lived. Actions transcend, not campaign inventiveness.

    The Democratic Party strategy has placed the cart before the horse; and, because he lacks both personal and political identity, Barak Obama has not found his place in the arrangement.

    • Posted By: bojack27 @ 08/19/2008 3:26:56 PM

      Very good comment I couldn't have said it better myself.....

  • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/14/2008 12:18:14 PM

    I don't think baptism has any thing to do with it. Being born of the water is physical birth. If baptism is a requirement, what about the thief on the cross next to Jesus? He told him "today thou shalt be with me in paradise.

    • Posted By: teddyo @ 08/16/2008 4:51:12 PM

      The Bible states you must be born of the water and the spirit or you can't see or enter the kingdom.

      • Posted By: Ret 1SG @ 08/17/2008 4:14:17 PM

        So anyone who is alive, who accepts Christ is born of the water and of the spirit. As I said above: Christ set the example of obedience to his Father by being Baptized. Just as we are to be obedient and be baptized. If it is a "requirement" then salvation is partly of works. I believe Christ, and the Bible teach salvation by faith in Christ, plus nothing and minus nothing. Then Baptism is a picture of the death, burial, and ressurection of Jesus. We show our obedience, and give the picture of the death and burial of the old man and the ressurection of the new..

  • Posted By: teddyo @ 08/16/2008 4:42:34 PM

    This is the night you will see and feel in your soul who is the real Christian. It means to be Christ like..... Feed the poor, spread the Good News, turn the other cheek, if a man steals your coat give him your jacket also, discontinue spreading what you don't know to be true, don't steal, don't judge! Obama professed he is a Christian. God Knows he is not perfect but your going to have to leave this man alone. the Bible states who so ever will let him come. God can use this man to bring Muslims to Jesus if you known him you know he works in ways we don't understand. So open your heart Canadian and start praying..

  • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 08/12/2008 4:05:38 PM

    Why does Newsweak keep trying to convince people that Obama is Christian? He does not adhere to the basic tenets of the Christian faith no matter how often he calls himself a Christian and says he prays to Jesus.

    Obama does not believe there is a hell, so how could Christ have died and gone to hell for our sins?

    Obama does not believe that God would condemn people who deny Christ to hell

    Obama believes that people can earn their way into heaven by doing good works even if they don't believe in Christ.

    • Posted By: raddave @ 08/13/2008 12:05:09 AM

      Enter Your CommentWho are you or any other person in a position to judge wheter Obama is a Christian or not.? HIs beliefs are between God and himself.

      • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 08/15/2008 1:39:41 PM

        I do not "judge" -- I only report Obama's own words and statements and compare them to the basic tenets of the Christian faith.

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